AKC ILP Number
Kelly Randall
Does anyone here have a dog with and AKC ILP number? I want to apply for
one for both my dogs (a Lab and a Dobe) so we can compete in Obedience. I
have the applications but I'm wondering how good my chances are without
knowing pedigree or breeder (they are both rescues). Would love to hear
from anyone who has been through this.
Thanks,
J. Rabins
Kelly, I got an ILP number for my Lab about 12 years ago. I just took a
couple of pictures and sent in the money and I got my number. No trouble
at all. You know you can also do tracking tests with them. Our Lab club
has a speciality each year and we always have a special award for high
scoring ILP dog. Good luck. Joy
tj...@msc.cornell.edu
Kelly,
I just got an ILP number for my white boxer. It was fairly easy, as I
just listed everything (breeder, sire, and dam) as "unknown". They simply
want your dog to "look like" the breed, as it doesn't really matter if the
ARE the breed since they are spayed!!
Good luck!
In article <01bc51e7$20031760$21b1bacd@two-dog-might>, "Kelly Randall"
George Graves
A freidn of mine sees how much fun I'm having showing my purebred in AKC
obedience and agility events. Is there any way she can compete in these
with a mixed breed?
Amy Hendrix
George Graves (cani...@mindspring.net) wrote:
: A freidn of mine sees how much fun I'm having showing my purebred in AKC
: obedience and agility events. Is there any way she can compete in these
: with a mixed breed?
If she has the right unethical streak and the dog looks more or less
like some kind of purebred, she can apply for an ILP. Without any
guilt on her conscience and with an obvious Heinz 57 type, she can
still compete in UKC obedience and any agility registry other than
AKC. (Any maybe ASCA obedience, but I'm not sure about that one --
you can probably find out on their web site at www.asca.org)
Followups set to rpd.activities.
--
Amy Hendrix <ahen...@cris.com>
http://www.cris.com/~ahendrix
Cris Waller
On 27 Apr 1997 14:14:13 GMT, cani...@mindspring.net (George Graves)
wrote:
>A freidn of mine sees how much fun I'm having showing my purebred in AKC
>obedience and agility events. Is there any way she can compete in these
>with a mixed breed?
Yes-just not in AKC!
Obedience-you can compete in UKC, AMBOR, and ASCA events
Agility-the only place you *can't* compete is AKC! All other
registries (USDAA, NADAC, NCDA/UKC, and the more localized groups)
welcome mixed breeds.
Cris Waller
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Woodhaven
George Graves <cani...@mindspring.net> wrote in article
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> A freidn of mine sees how much fun I'm having showing my purebred in AKC
> obedience and agility events. Is there any way she can compete in these
> with a mixed breed?
>
>
Not in AKC events. There is a registry for mixed breeds that have their
own shows.
-Laura
DobeFan
Kelly,
My first Dobe was a rescue from an animal shelter. Had no problem getting
an ILP #. He went on to earn CD and CDX, and won his obed class at Dobe
Nationals. Go for it!!!!
Just request an ILP application from AKC. Dog must be spayed or neutered.
Form will ask why dog can't be registered. I just said he was adopted
from a shelter. It also asks why you feel the dog is purebred. I
described how the dog fit the breed standard, describing size, coat,
color, markings, structure, etc. And I included statements from vet and
two obed instructors that the dog appeared purebred to them. And you''ll
need two photos.
UKC has an LP program, so your dogs can compete in both registeries.
Actually, mixed breeds can also get LP #'s from UKC.
And contact me if you'd like info on subscribing to the doberman mail
list. We have many rescue Dobes on the list, many rescuers, and we have a
warm place in our hearts for rescue Dobes (esp those competing in obed).
Mary Alice
Lisa Ochoa
"Kelly Randall" <gssk...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Does anyone here have a dog with and AKC ILP number? I want to apply for
>one for both my dogs (a Lab and a Dobe) so we can compete in Obedience. I
>have the applications but I'm wondering how good my chances are without
>knowing pedigree or breeder (they are both rescues). Would love to hear
>from anyone who has been through this.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kelly
Hi Kelly,
You should have no problem getting an ILP on both your dogs, so long as
they appear to be reasonable representatives of their respective breeds.
Both my BCs and my whippet have ILPs, and I have NO idea about the pedigrees
or breeders of any of them.
You can request the applications via email (to in...@akc.org). There is
a $25 application fee. You'll need some good pictures to send with the
application (they ask for one side view and one front view), so you'll
need a friend to help you with this part. You'll also need a certificate
from your vet for each dog, stating that they are spayed/neutered. It takes
about six weeks or so to hear back (or at least it did for my dogs).
UKC also has an LP program, so you can register with both if you have both
types of events in your area.
Hope this helps!
--
Lisa Ochoa, Proprietor, Ochoa Petting Zoo- Home of
Archie, CGC (6yo Doberman/Torpedo); Nell, CGC (Gorgeous 5yo
Lady Whippet); Oliver, CGC, FDCH (TMWDITW -- 5yo Border
Collie); Ripley, CGC (BC Wonder Pup); and Haley Bell the
Beeyouteefull BLT (Black Lab 'Triever) l-o...@uiuc.edu
"Do not disturb. Already disturbed."
April Quist
Kelly Randall (gssk...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Does anyone here have a dog with and AKC ILP number? I want to apply for
: one for both my dogs (a Lab and a Dobe) so we can compete in Obedience. I
: have the applications but I'm wondering how good my chances are without
: knowing pedigree or breeder (they are both rescues). Would love to hear
: from anyone who has been through this.
If they *look* purebred, you should have no problem. I've also known
people who've been refused the ILP the first time (they had Border
Collies - because BC looks vary so widely, sometimes it's hard to tell
whether they're purebred or not), but got the ILP after sending in
a second application that included a breeder's statement that the dog
was, in her opinion, purebred.
April with Levi and Caper, the Border Collie Hurricanes
aqu...@netcom.com
dogsnus
Kelly Randall wrote:
>
> Does anyone here have a dog with and AKC ILP number? I want to apply for
> one for both my dogs (a Lab and a Dobe) so we can compete in Obedience. I
> have the applications but I'm wondering how good my chances are without
> knowing pedigree or breeder (they are both rescues). Would love to hear
> from anyone who has been through this.
>
>
> Kelly
> gssk...@ix.netcom.com
With all the good advice you've received, I just want to say, I hope
you get the ILP and go for it! You are going to have funfunfun!
It's a whole new world for you and your dog! You'll never quit once you
start!
Best of luck to you,
Terri
And don't forget to let us know when you win your first leg!
Sylvana Smith
In response to Kelly who asks, <<Does anyone here have a dog with and
AKC ILP number? I want to apply for one for both my dogs (a Lab and a
Dobe) so we can compete in Obedience. I have the applications but I'm
wondering how good my chances are without knowing pedigree or breeder
(they are both rescues). Would love to hear from anyone who has been
through this.>>
Go for it!!! I had a wonderful Field Spaniel whose parentage was
unknown to me (a rescue)--but several local trainers told me she was
undoubtedly from a well known Field Spaniel kennel in our state. I put
"unknown" and "unknown" for her mom and dad, sent photographs
judiciously selected to show her to best advantage, and she did great
things with her ILP. Yes, she stuck out in show programs for having a
simple one-word name and no pedigree, but she still took top ribbons!
At a match in New York, I was approached by a board member from the
Field Spaniel Society of America and thought "Gulp, what's he going to
think of my ILP dog!" After all, it's a somewhat rare breed. After
watching her stellar performance in graduate novice that day, he said
she was wonderful and told me how great it was for building awareness of
the breed, to have one working in Obedience, since there were so few in
the country doing so.
Years later (after my lovely girl had passed on), I saw a perfect
replica of her at obedience class. The dog was a Boykin spaniel, a
breed I've seen named quite often in hunting magazines and Agricultural
Review classifieds in North and South Carolina. So in retrospect, my
Field was probably a Boykin, but in the meantime she served as an
excellent ambassador for Field Spaniels and did no one any harm.
Looking at it from the AKC's point of view... As long as your dogs are
reasonable facsimiles of the breed you claim, then surely it's in their
best interests to grant you an ILP. After all, dog showing is a
lucrative business for them! The more the merrier!
I applaud your desire to pursue AKC shows with your rescue dogs and can
only say that my experience was most positive. I would do it again,
except that I'm so busy with horse trials these days that my present
batch of dogs includes nothing but giddy heathens!-- Good Luck --SS
Marty Zimmerman
Kelly Randall <gssk...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<01bc51e7$20031760$21b1bacd@two-dog-might>...
> Does anyone here have a dog with and AKC ILP number? I want to apply for
> one for both my dogs (a Lab and a Dobe) so we can compete in Obedience. I
> have the applications but I'm wondering how good my chances are without
> knowing pedigree or breeder (they are both rescues). Would love to hear
> from anyone who has been through this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kelly
> gssk...@ix.netcom.com
Hi Kelly,
I got an ILP on my lab several years ago. He was a stray, so I had very
little info. on him (I even had to make up a date of birth). In my case,
besides the photos, I got two vets at the local clinic to sign the
application, stating that they believed the dog to be a lab. Breeders or
Breed judges would also work. The impression I have gotten from people is
that the AKC became less stringent on granting ILPs a few years ago once
they started requiring proof of neutering/spaying. So if the average dog
person can identify what your dogs are, you should have no trouble getting
the ILP numbers.
Good luck,
Marty & Obie CDX OA WC CDC (ILP dog)
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