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Chip Douglas

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Alan the picture you showed clearly shows a midget. The picture
I showed has a 6'4" young man in it. The dog I showed is very
large. The wolfhound is also large.

The nutty facts that you put in are totally unrealistic. I have
witnesses extreme incidents involving pitbulls, wolfhounds and
other breeds and I will tell you straight up that Ireland is such
a small country there probably was not much room for wolves to run
and hide. Wolves are smart. They would rather run and fight another
day but will fight when pressed. I seriously doubt that a wolfhound
singlehandedly killed 40 wolves unless they were sleeping. I have
documentation from Alaska where a single wolf killed three wolfhounds
and escaped when it was cornered.

I would have to say though that each dog is different and could be
beaten at any given day...just like prizefighters. The animal I showed
weighs 198, stands 38 at the withers and is very large and fast. The
tallest animals I have ever seen were a 42 inch fawn great dane and
she is a champion who lives in Annapolis Md. The other tallest dog
I ever saw was a 44 inch lobo wolf in Pennsylvania. The argument could
go on and on but it is not worth it. Have a nice weekend.

Chip

Alan Cowen

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Chip Douglas <Mr.H...@cheerful.com> wrote in article
<337568...@cheerful.com>...


> Alan the picture you showed clearly shows a midget. The picture
> I showed has a 6'4" young man in it. The dog I showed is very
> large. The wolfhound is also large.
>

Well Chip - if that 'kid' in the picture is 6' 4" then how tall is the
vehicle parked at curbside. Must have been specially built as it has to be
over 8ft tall if the height of that kid is 6ft 4".

> The nutty facts that you put in are totally unrealistic. I have
> witnesses extreme incidents involving pitbulls, wolfhounds and
> other breeds and I will tell you straight up that Ireland is such
> a small country there probably was not much room for wolves to run
> and hide. Wolves are smart. They would rather run and fight another
> day but will fight when pressed. I seriously doubt that a wolfhound
> singlehandedly killed 40 wolves unless they were sleeping. I have
> documentation from Alaska where a single wolf killed three wolfhounds
> and escaped when it was cornered.

Okay - then put-up or shutup - post this documentation to this list Chip
and make sure to quote the origins of the documentation so that people can
verify it for themselves.



> I would have to say though that each dog is different and could be
> beaten at any given day...just like prizefighters. The animal I showed
> weighs 198, stands 38 at the withers and is very large and fast.

What exactly is that animal Chip. One minute you say it is a 200lb wolf,
then you refer to it as a dog, now it's a 198-lb animal. Is it a wolf?? Is
it a hybrid. People can judge for themselves whether it stands 38" at the
withers and whether the 'young man' in the picture is 6'4" and they can
chuckle in silence (or in public) at your claims.

> The tallest animals I have ever seen were a 42 inch fawn great dane and
> she is a champion who lives in Annapolis Md.

Okay - give us the name of the dog and the Breeder so we can verify for
ourselves Chip.

> The other tallest dog
> I ever saw was a 44 inch lobo wolf in Pennsylvania. The argument could
> go on and on but it is not worth it. Have a nice weekend.
>
> Chip
>

Oh I see - you don't want to continue this now that your whole story has
been challenged??

Alan

DogStar716

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Chip wrote:
> The tallest animals I have ever seen were a 42 inch fawn great dane and
> she is a champion who lives in Annapolis Md.

Allan wrote:
>Okay - give us the name of the dog and the Breeder so we can verify for
>ourselves Chip.

Yes, Chip, please do. I have a really hard time believing that one....


Mr.King

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IrishCu wrote:
>
> Chip,
> Please send me the document about the "wolfhound killer" wolf rampaging
> through Alaska. I know most of the Wolfhounders (there are only a few) in
> Alaska and I never heard about this.
>
> For a wolf to kill a single hound the dog would have to be missing all of
> its legs, and have none of it's teeth. Well wait, there is one way. Was
> the Wolfhounds owner careless and not provide his animals a rabies shot?
> Maybe the wolf had rabies and the hounds contracted it from eating the
> wolf. CHIP, there is no such thing as a wolf that can defeat a Wolfhound
> one on one, never mind three on one. In fact there are many dogs that can
> defeat any wolf such as the Mastiff, Dogo, Great Dane etc... Now I am sure
> that you can fabricate a story regarding each of these breeds but please
> don't waste your time with creative fancy. It only causes you to slip
> further into your own world which is quite unhealthy.
>
> Please send me the documentation on your story, and I will send you the
> proof of the Wolfhound who destroyed over 40 wolves (48 I think).
>
> IrishCu

You are totally incorrect but both of you can believe what you want.
Stupidity is evidently prevalent on this newsgroup. Wolves are awesome
animals and you must own a wolfhound because you lack objectivity.
The wolfhound will not win every battle just likt the wolf will not
win each battle.

Mr King

Mr.King

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I believe that the dog in the fence is taller but who knows. The
wolfhound is next to a very short man. I would still bet that a 4
foot 9 year old street punk would be badder than both of them!
Wolves are cooler animals though. They howl excellently and love to
cuddle with kids.

Mr King

Mr.King

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IrishCu wrote:
>
> Mr. King,
> Alan did not write this post, I did, so please direct your statement to me
> only. We are not the same person posting under other names to try and add
> validity our statements. Over the course of history, to the best of my
> knowledge ( and I have researched the subject) there has never been a
> situation where a Wolfhound was killed by a Wolf while in pursuit. This
> dog is a specialist, it purpose was to destroy wolves, not hunt it, not
> track it, destroy it.
> If you doubt the ability of the the other dogs mentioned you need only see
> a dogo in action against a Puma. Dogo's have bloodlines that contain
> Mastiff, Great Dane and Irish Wolfhound blood. When you see the panic of
> the big cat when it is challenged by a Dogo you would not question the
> outcome if a wolf replaced the puma in the confrontation.
> One question, are you chips Dad, Uncle, brother or alter-ego? You are
> correct when you stated that "Stupidity is evidently prevalent on this
> newsgroup", but I'm sure you have no need to embrace stupidty by entering
> this newsgroup, you need only listen to yourself.
> IrishCu
> P.S.- I am a big supporter of Wolves being re-established in our National
> Parks System. I have also researched the lives and habits of Wolves
> extensively as well as the coursing hounds and mastiffs that hunted them.

Sir, I firmly disagree with you. All animals such as the puma and wolf
will run before they fight. When you say that all wolfhounds will beat
wolves you are showing stupidity. There are large wolves, small wolves
and middle sized wolves. If you wish to say that the wolfhound will
beat all small amd middle sized wolves I might agree but they must be
trained to do so. Wolves that are large are totally different than
certain subspecies of the creature. Another statement would be that
hyenas cannot ever beat male lions. This is a true statmnt. But I would
never want to see any dog or wolf fight. It is not a pretty sight and
anyone wishing these animals to fight should be committed to an asylum
for their actions.

Mr King

IrishCu

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Alan Cowen

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Mr.King <Mr.H...@juno.com> aka <mr.ha...@juno.com (Chip Douglas) aka
<Chip Douglas> wrote in article <337694...@juno.com>...

> Sir, I firmly disagree with you. All animals such as the puma and wolf
> will run before they fight. When you say that all wolfhounds will beat
> wolves you are showing stupidity. There are large wolves, small wolves
> and middle sized wolves. If you wish to say that the wolfhound will
> beat all small amd middle sized wolves I might agree but they must be
> trained to do so. Wolves that are large are totally different than
> certain subspecies of the creature. Another statement would be that
> hyenas cannot ever beat male lions. This is a true statmnt. But I would
> never want to see any dog or wolf fight. It is not a pretty sight and
> anyone wishing these animals to fight should be committed to an asylum
> for their actions.
>
> Mr King
>

I suggest you go to the Library and get a hold of a copy of "The Wolf in
North American History" (1946) by Stanley Paul Young & Edward A. Goldman.
(pp 69-72)

Young & Goldman publish statistics on Height and Weight of Wolves detailing
North American wolf species from Alaska to Texas (and Greenland)... they go
on to say

"the height and weight of wolves, even in fully matured animals,
vary considerably. The weight of gray wolves range in measurement
from 25 to 38 inches in height and from 60 to 175 lbs. in weight"

Young & Goldman's measurements actually exceed those attributed by the
"Encyclopedia Britannica" to the largest of wolves; the Timber Wolf, which
shows weight: 100 lbs., length: 66" (including 12" tail).

Young and Goldman further evidence that a wolf has been clocked at 28 mph
for 200 yards, and that a wolf can run 22-24 mph for a mile or two and that
it's speed would then be reduced to about 12 mph. They go on to say "

"The hunting technique of wolves is based on the exhaustion of
their prey. Their greater endurance over that of most, if not
all, of the big game animals, is one of their main asset in overcoming
prey"

If you have any doubt as to the ability of the Irish Wolfhound to single
handedly overtake and kill a full grown wolf then get hold of "The Irish
Wolfhound Guide" by Gen. Alfred de Quoy as referenced in other posts.

If your wolf/dog/whatever weight 200-lbs and can do 45 mph you should get
it officially certified with Guinness Book of Records and change history
forever Chip.

Alan Cowen

Mr.King

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Alan you are not looking at things intelligently. The wolf will not
be killed by the wolfhound etc. Man is wolf's most dangerous predator.
This is the same as all animals. Additionally the young man in the
picture is taller than the midget you showed. The animal behind the
fence is taller also. Who really gives a crap Alan? Look at life
magazine last year with "Wild Animals" and see that wolves run "40"
miles per hour! I cannot tell you what that animal is in the picture.
I just cannot tell you young man but he has run 48 miles per hour and
killed a pitbull even when I tried to stop him. His kind do not turn
off once on! Maybe you had better read the history books and then
realize that either one of us would be an idiot for challenging either
one of these dogs to his MILKBONES!

Mr King

Dogman

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On a cold day in Hell, 11 May 1997 17:25:24 GMT, "Alan Cowen"
<adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


>Chip Douglas <Mr.H...@cheerful.com> wrote in article
><337568...@cheerful.com>...

[...]


>Oh I see - you don't want to continue this now that your whole story has
>been challenged??
>
>Alan

Alan, trying to have an intelligent debate with one of the most
notorious TROLLS on Usenet isn't a very good idea. NicKenChip
wouldn't know a wolf from a worm. He's playing you like a Les Paul
guitar. Wise up, eh?


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Alan Cowen

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Dogman wrote in article <337886d6...@news1.i1.net>...


>On a cold day in Hell, 11 May 1997 17:25:24 GMT, "Alan Cowen"
><adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Chip Douglas <Mr.H...@cheerful.com> wrote in article
>><337568...@cheerful.com>...
>
>[...]
>>Oh I see - you don't want to continue this now that your whole story has
>>been challenged??
>>
>>Alan
>
>Alan, trying to have an intelligent debate with one of the most
>notorious TROLLS on Usenet isn't a very good idea. NicKenChip
>wouldn't know a wolf from a worm. He's playing you like a Les Paul
>guitar. Wise up, eh?
>
>
>--
>Dogman

Yes I know he's 'trying' to play me like a "Les Paul" (actually I play more
like a Martin D45) I don't mind his little games as I look upon it as a
form of forced excercise and it does get me referring to the old books
again. I am sure some people at least will get some knowledge out of the
exchange.


Alan

Mr.King

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I can play you all like a finely tuned fiddle. But Chip does is better.

Mr King

Wildpuppy

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Dogman wrote:
>
> On a cold day in Hell, Mon, 12 May 1997 22:51:34 -0500, "Mr.King"
> <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> [...]

> >I can play you all like a finely tuned fiddle. But Chip does is better.
> >
> >Mr King
>
> "Mr. King," the only thing you're good at is making a complete ass out
> of yourself. In fact, you're in a class of your own. A chickenshit,
> yellow-belly coward, you are, indeed.
>
What do you mean by this statement sir? I believe you are the coward.

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Alan Cowen

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--
Alan Cowen
The Hounds of Darragh,
Thousand Oaks, California
Bryan Hinkle wrote in article ...
>Mr.King (Mr.H...@juno.com) wrote:
>: myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
>: animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Never happened and never will ,cheetahs have been clocked close
>to 70 mph but only for very short distances.
>
>
>
>: If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is
possible
>
> Documentation please..............
>
B.
>
>
You don't understand Bryan - these are 'dream' wolves and 'dream' cheetahs.
They can do those speeds because the gravitational pull in Chip's
dreamworld is totally different. It took me a while to understand this, so
don't feel bad about not knowing.

ALan

Alan Cowen

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--
Alan Cowen
The Hounds of Darragh,
Thousand Oaks, California

Mr.King wrote in article <3377E5...@juno.com>...

>I can play you all like a finely tuned fiddle. But Chip does is better.
>
>Mr King
>

That's right Chip - Oh by the way -- it's the fat end of the fiddle you
stick under your chin -- not the other end!!

Alan

Alan Cowen

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--
Alan Cowen
The Hounds of Darragh,
Thousand Oaks, California

Mr.King wrote in article <33780C...@juno.com>...
>Sandra Pover wrote:
>>
>> On 12 May 1997 17:45:44 GMT, in the last days of the millenium, "Alan


>> Cowen" <adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> >If your wolf/dog/whatever weight 200-lbs and can do 45 mph you should
get
>> >it officially certified with Guinness Book of Records and change
history
>> >forever Chip.
>>

>> An outstanding greyhound may hit 45MPH or a bit more. There is no
>> faster canine breed than Greyhounds. I would strongly doubt any dog
>> with a Wolf-like build, let alone a behemouth of 200lbs, could come
>> close to 45MPH.
>>
>> Sandra Pover
>> Remove NOSPAM to email
>
>Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for


>myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
>animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.

>If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible

>you know. I bet we could even run that fast if one were chasing us.
>Don't you think so?
>
>Mr King
>
I could run that fast if you were chasing me. My God - what if it's
contagious like rabies? Two certified lunatics in the same hemisphere
.......

Alan

Mr.King

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Bryan Hinkle

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Mr.King (Mr.H...@juno.com) wrote:
: myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain

: animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Never happened and never will ,cheetahs have been clocked close
to 70 mph but only for very short distances.



: If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible

Documentation please..............




B.


Mr.King

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Alan Cowen wrote:
>
> --
> Alan Cowen
> The Hounds of Darragh,
> Thousand Oaks, California
> Mr.King wrote in article <33780C...@juno.com>...
> >Sandra Pover wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12 May 1997 17:45:44 GMT, in the last days of the millenium, "Alan
> >> Cowen" <adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >If your wolf/dog/whatever weight 200-lbs and can do 45 mph you should
> get
> >> >it officially certified with Guinness Book of Records and change
> history
> >> >forever Chip.
> >>
> >> An outstanding greyhound may hit 45MPH or a bit more. There is no
> >> faster canine breed than Greyhounds. I would strongly doubt any dog
> >> with a Wolf-like build, let alone a behemouth of 200lbs, could come
> >> close to 45MPH.
> >>
> >> Sandra Pover
> >> Remove NOSPAM to email
> >
> >Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for
> >myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
> >animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> >If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible
> >you know. I bet we could even run that fast if one were chasing us.
> >Don't you think so?
> >
> >Mr King
> >
> I could run that fast if you were chasing me. My God - what if it's
> contagious like rabies? Two certified lunatics in the same hemisphere
> .......
>
> Alan
I guess you are a lunatic. I cannot help you sir. Check yourself into
the nearest psychiatric hospital for an emergency evaluation. You need
help.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Bryan Hinkle wrote:
>
> Mr.King (Mr.H...@juno.com) wrote:
> : myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain

> : animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Never happened and never will ,cheetahs have been clocked close
> to 70 mph but only for very short distances.
>
>
>
> : If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible
>
> Documentation please..............
>
>
>
>
> B.

You clowns really make me laugh. If chip were to have his beast run
50 miles per hour in front of you then you would still say impossible.
Grow up kids.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Alan Cowen wrote:
>
> --
> Alan Cowen
> The Hounds of Darragh,
> Thousand Oaks, California
> Bryan Hinkle wrote in article ...
> >Mr.King (Mr.H...@juno.com) wrote:
> >: myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
> >: animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Never happened and never will ,cheetahs have been clocked close
> >to 70 mph but only for very short distances.
> >
> >
> >
> >: If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is
> possible
> >
> > Documentation please..............
> >
> B.
> >
> >
> You don't understand Bryan - these are 'dream' wolves and 'dream' cheetahs.
> They can do those speeds because the gravitational pull in Chip's
> dreamworld is totally different. It took me a while to understand this, so
> don't feel bad about not knowing.
>
> ALan

Alan look at the discovery channel you butthead! Cheetahs have run 90!
Wolves can run 40! The average penis is 5 inches. In your boys cases I
would probably say that you don't even know this. What kind of education
did you boys get? Wolves are cool man. Don't you know that?

Mr King

Mr.King

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Alan Cowen wrote:
>
> --
> Alan Cowen
> The Hounds of Darragh,
> Thousand Oaks, California

Thanks for telling chip that info. I will make sure he uses the fiddle
properly.

Mr King

Dogman

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On a cold day in Hell, 12 May 1997 17:20:30 GMT, "Alan Cowen"
<adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

[...]
>Now I am getting confused .. Is Mr. King really Mr. Harry (AKA Chip
>Douglas) or is Mr. Harry really Mr. King (AKA Chip Douglas). I recently
>got an e-mail form Chip where the Source code on the messages shows From:
>mr.ha...@juno.com (Chip Douglas). Why all the alias's Chip??
>
>Alan

Alan, I tried to warn you, eh? Carrying on an intelligent
"conversation" with NicKenChip is like mining for gold in Florida.
It's just not the right place to expect to find gold, eh?

He has all the aliases because he NEEDS THEM. At times, he has no one
to talk to besides HIMSELF! We've managed to get him canceled with
some of his providers, but he manages to get another account and
starts all over again. See my web page ("Join The Hunt...") for some
additional information on NicKenChip and all his ALIASES.

Then you'd be doing yourself a favor by just ignoring him. Think of
him as you would the herpes simplex virus. He'll make you miserable
and spoil all your fun, but he won't kill you. He'll likely
disappear, only to return and make your life miserable all over again.


Someday soon there may be a "cure" for this virus and people are
working VERY hard at finding one. But in the meantime, it pays just to
RELAX and not worry about him. The more you worry about him, the
longer he stays around.


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Dogman has it right, we thought he was gone and he reappeared! Yes
the catalyst came back. Dogman you shoild have never come back. Noone
really missed you but Chip and his friends.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Marie Moore wrote:

>
> Mr.King wrote:
> > Alan you are not looking at things intelligently. The wolf will not
> > be killed by the wolfhound etc. Man is wolf's most dangerous predator.
> > This is the same as all animals. Additionally the young man in the
> > picture is taller than the midget you showed. The animal behind the
> > fence is taller also. Who really gives a crap Alan? Look at life
> > magazine last year
>
> Another clue that this poster is yet another splinter of Sybil: citing
> LIFE magazine as a credible source. Our resident troll seems to believe
> that anything ever put in print is by definition infallibly
> correct. I'll bet that in elementary school (probably his highest
> level of education) he used supermarket tabloids as sources when
> researching topics for term papers.

>
> > Maybe you had better read the history books and then
> > realize that either one of us would be an idiot for challenging either
> > one of these dogs to his MILKBONES!
>
> I've lived with and known a lot of Irish Wolfhounds. I've never met
> one that wouldn't let me take its "MILKBONES" (or any other treat
> or favorite possession) away after it got to know me. Wolfhounds
> are smart enough to be able to identify a "challenge" or threat,
> and giving up a milkbone wouldn't qualify. Breaking into my house
> or threatening a family member would. Not surprisingly, it is ever
> more obvious that Sybil doesn't know squat about Irish Wolfhounds.

I really don't know why you insist on defaming everyone mam. We
understand that you need to use monistat 21 on a regular basis but
to talk nastily is just terrible Marie. Clearly you don't like life
magazine. I guess that when Freud was on Cocaine he was not credible
either, right?

Mr King

Cat

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In article <33780C...@juno.com>,

Mr....@juno.com wrote:
>
> Sandra Pover wrote:
> >
> > On 12 May 1997 17:45:44 GMT, in the last days of the millenium, "Alan
> > Cowen" <adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >If your wolf/dog/whatever weight 200-lbs and can do 45 mph you should get
> > >it officially certified with Guinness Book of Records and change history
> > >forever Chip.
> >
> > An outstanding greyhound may hit 45MPH or a bit more. There is no
> > faster canine breed than Greyhounds. I would strongly doubt any dog
> > with a Wolf-like build, let alone a behemouth of 200lbs, could come
> > close to 45MPH.
> >
> > Sandra Pover
> > Remove NOSPAM to email
>
> Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for
> myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
> animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible
> you know. I bet we could even run that fast if one were chasing us.
> Don't you think so?
>
> Mr King

What a ridiculous statement..."cheetah can run 90". You obviously have
*not* done your homework properly, John-Boy. a Cheetah has a top speed of
between 50-70 mph, if you have seen it as "90" somewhere, it was measured
in kilometers, not miles. They can only keep their top speed for a short
period (a few hundred meters), so use a little bit of stalking in their
hunting as well. They are one of the few greater cats we have left that
have faced extinction several times throughout history and have managed
to come back. Research on the genes of those who have been tested (mostly
captive cats, but quite a few in the wild as well) has shown that they
have a very small gene pool, and that the last time they were at the
"brink" of extinction, there were only a few dozen. Cheetahs are one of
the better natured cats in captivity, have been kept as pets in India as
well as Africa for centuries. Life magazine is not the "know-all,
end-all" type publication. I think you find a more reliable source in an
African Wildlife book, a zoo manual, or even in National Geographic. And
as for "experience" with cheetahs, I doubt you have any, except what you
have read in books (mags) about them. Do they have "dew claws"?
<chuckle> For instance, would you like to know how much Ketamine it take
to safely knock one out so that it can be handled safely? heh-heh-heh,
Cat in Alaska

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On Tue, 13 May 1997 03:31:42 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
"Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:

>Alan look at the discovery channel you butthead! Cheetahs have run 90!
>Wolves can run 40!

Program title, date and time please.

Sandra Pover

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On Tue, 13 May 1997 01:38:53 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
"Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:

>Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for
>myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
>animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
>If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible
>you know. I bet we could even run that fast if one were chasing us.
>Don't you think so?

Volume and Issue numbers and date please.

Mr.King

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Cat wrote:
>
> In article <33780C...@juno.com>,
> Mr....@juno.com wrote:
> >
> > Sandra Pover wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12 May 1997 17:45:44 GMT, in the last days of the millenium, "Alan
> > > Cowen" <adc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >If your wolf/dog/whatever weight 200-lbs and can do 45 mph you should get
> > > >it officially certified with Guinness Book of Records and change history
> > > >forever Chip.
> > >
> > > An outstanding greyhound may hit 45MPH or a bit more. There is no
> > > faster canine breed than Greyhounds. I would strongly doubt any dog
> > > with a Wolf-like build, let alone a behemouth of 200lbs, could come
> > > close to 45MPH.
> > >
> > > Sandra Pover
> > > Remove NOSPAM to email
> >
> > Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for
> > myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
> > animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> > If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible
> > you know. I bet we could even run that fast if one were chasing us.
> > Don't you think so?
> >
> > Mr King
>
> What a ridiculous statement..."cheetah can run 90". You obviously have
> *not* done your homework properly, John-Boy. a Cheetah has a top speed of
> between 50-70 mph, if you have seen it as "90" somewhere, it was measured
> in kilometers, not miles. They can only keep their top speed for a short
> period (a few hundred meters), so use a little bit of stalking in their
> hunting as well. They are one of the few greater cats we have left that
> have faced extinction several times throughout history and have managed
> to come back. Research on the genes of those who have been tested (mostly
> captive cats, but quite a few in the wild as well) has shown that they
> have a very small gene pool, and that the last time they were at the
> "brink" of extinction, there were only a few dozen. Cheetahs are one of
> the better natured cats in captivity, have been kept as pets in India as
> well as Africa for centuries. Life magazine is not the "know-all,
> end-all" type publication. I think you find a more reliable source in an
> African Wildlife book, a zoo manual, or even in National Geographic. And
> as for "experience" with cheetahs, I doubt you have any, except what you
> have read in books (mags) about them. Do they have "dew claws"?
> <chuckle> For instance, would you like to know how much Ketamine it take
> to safely knock one out so that it can be handled safely? heh-heh-heh,
> Cat in Alaska
>
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Ms Cat, I really don't know why you are so argumentative. I am Harry
King and I really don't appreciate your nasty attitude. I will not
even respond to you if that is hoe you are going to talk to people
you don't know.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Sandra Pover wrote:

>
> On Tue, 13 May 1997 01:38:53 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
> "Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for
> >myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
> >animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.
> >If a wolf were large enough I could see it running 45-48. It is possible
> >you know. I bet we could even run that fast if one were chasing us.
> >Don't you think so?
>
> Volume and Issue numbers and date please.
>
> Sandra Pover
> Remove NOSPAM to email

Check your public library Sandra. It is fact. When I was with the Peace
Corps I was in Africa. I know what Cheetahs can run, I know what wolves
can do. I love dogs and nice ladies too.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Sandra Pover wrote:

>
> On Tue, 13 May 1997 03:31:42 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
> "Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >Alan look at the discovery channel you butthead! Cheetahs have run 90!
> >Wolves can run 40!
>
> Program title, date and time please.

>
> Sandra Pover
> Remove NOSPAM to email

World of Discovery, Animal Kingdom. Watch it and you may see me.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Cat wrote:
>
> In article <337794...@juno.com>,

> Mr.H...@juno.com wrote:
>
> > Alan you are not looking at things intelligently. The wolf will not
> > be killed by the wolfhound etc. Man is wolf's most dangerous predator.
> > This is the same as all animals. Additionally the young man in the
> > picture is taller than the midget you showed. The animal behind the
> > fence is taller also. Who really gives a crap Alan? Look at life
> > magazine last year with "Wild Animals" and see that wolves run "40"
> > miles per hour! I cannot tell you what that animal is in the picture.
> > I just cannot tell you young man but he has run 48 miles per hour and
> > killed a pitbull even when I tried to stop him. His kind do not turn
> > off once on! Maybe you had better read the history books and then

> > realize that either one of us would be an idiot for challenging either
> > one of these dogs to his MILKBONES!
> >
> > Mr King
>
> Why can't you tell us what the animal was in that picture? You've had no
> problems in the past *bragging* about your wolves.

>
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Ms Cat I really don't know what you are talking about. I guess you are
one of the delusional people they talk about on the dog groups. Take
care.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Cat wrote:
>
> In article <337A64...@juno.com>, "Mr.King" says...

> >
> >Cat wrote:
> >> Why can't you tell us what the animal was in that picture? You've had
> no
> >> problems in the past *bragging* about your wolves.
> >>
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> >
> >Ms Cat I really don't know what you are talking about. I guess you are
> >one of the delusional people they talk about on the dog groups. Take
> >care.
> >
> >Mr King
>
> Nope, not delusional at all. These are quotes from Dejanews about the
> "supposed" 200lb wolf:
>
> >People mistake my wolves for wolfhounds and my largest wolf was clocked
> >by Md State Police at 48 miles per hour. You will see webpage soon.
> >Chip
>
> >Well, do you sleep with a wolf? I do. They are beautiful animals and
> >quite unique.
>
> >I have a pet wolf who has never had sex. He does not hump your leg,
> >etc. I have had collies who are fine until theyhave sex.
>
> >You had better learn that my hobbies are wolves, women and knowledge.
> >I do not have to look up words in dictionaries....
>
> >There are really some sub human life forms on this group. My wolves
> >are smarter than anyone on this group.
>
> >My wolves will eat whatever they want..if they care too. Sometimes
> >they like pizza. Sometimes when we give them other food they will
> >somehow eat around the food they don't like and eat under the disliked
> >food...leaving only disliked food in the bowl...animals are incredible.
>
> >Now if you are saying that a pitbull can beat a mountain lion or a 200
> >pound wolf I will tell you that you are an absolute fool. I personally
> >have seen a 200 lb wolf tear a pit to pieces when he threw him in the
> >air after the pit attacked the poor wolf. Don't ever forget the saying
> >"there is always someone meaner around the corner." The fact that you
> >state that pitbulls are the best fighters is exactly the reason they
> >are being banned and will continue to do so.
>
> >I agree! I just got on the group recently. It is just like a CB radio.
> >Just travels farther. Maybe we should talk about how fast wolves can
> >run. I have clocked one at 48.7 miles per hour. I have also had my
> >head in a two hundred pound wolf's mouth. If anyone can tell me how
> >to put a photo on this group I will show you the biggest Wolf I have
> >ever tangled with.
>
> Now is there some reason why you are suddenly reticent about the "nature
> of that beast"? Too bad your server shut you off... it's too to go back
> and cancel those postings...
> Cat

>
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Sorry Ms Cat. Since I am not Chip I don't know. I assume that you must
like Chip a lot as you give him so much grief. From the pictures I would
say that it could be a wolf or malamute or mixture of some sort. I never
got a good look at the creature, sorry.

Mr King

Mr.King

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Sandra Pover wrote:
>
> On Wed, 14 May 1997 20:24:43 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,

> "Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >> >Alan look at the discovery channel you butthead! Cheetahs have run 90!
> >> >Wolves can run 40!
> >>
>
> Me:

> >> Program title, date and time please.
> >>
> "Mr.King"

> >World of Discovery, Animal Kingdom. Watch it and you may see me.
>
> Program title, date and time please.
>
> Sandra Pover
> Remove NOSPAM to email

Ms Sandra, you and Cat must talk by land line to come up with this
nonsense. I watch tv and have appeared on tv shows talking about animals
which I have researched. Just watch the discovery channel and the show
"wild animals" and then you will see true cuddly animals. It may even
keep you off the computer for a while.

Mr King

PHyatt1962

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You're going to have to go to college, because Alan is the book of
knowledge....

Sandra Pover

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Sandra Pover

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On Wed, 14 May 1997 20:23:55 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
"Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:

>> >Look at life magazine last year. I went to the library and saw it for
>> >myself. In their wild animal baby pictures they tell all about certain
>> >animals and the wolf runs 40 miles per hour. The cheetah can run 90.

Me:


>> Volume and Issue numbers and date please.
>>

"Mr.King":


>Check your public library Sandra. It is fact. When I was with the Peace
>Corps I was in Africa. I know what Cheetahs can run, I know what wolves
>can do. I love dogs and nice ladies too.

I will, as soon as you provide Volume and Issue numbers or date.

Marie Moore

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Mr.King wrote:
> I will not
> even respond to you if that is hoe you are going to talk to people
> you don't know.

Promises, promises! Do us all a favor and follow through on this one.

Sandra Pover

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On Thu, 15 May 1997 07:01:31 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
"Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:

>Ms Sandra, you and Cat must talk by land line to come up with this
>nonsense. I watch tv and have appeared on tv shows talking about animals
>which I have researched. Just watch the discovery channel and the show
>"wild animals" and then you will see true cuddly animals. It may even
>keep you off the computer for a while.

Program title, date and time please.
Under which name did you appear?
For which facility/institution did you perform your research?
Library of Congress numbers of published reports?

Sandra Pover

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On Thu, 15 May 1997 21:00:45 -0500, in the last days of the millenium,
"Mr.King" <Mr.H...@juno.com> wrote:

Me:


>> Program title, date and time please.
>> Under which name did you appear?
>> For which facility/institution did you perform your research?
>> Library of Congress numbers of published reports?

>Sandy you sure do ask a lot of questions for a little girl. Play with
>some puppies and I may tall you. I may even send you a copy of the
>videotape.

Put up or shut up.

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