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Donja & Karel

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Oct 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/11/98
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is there anyone familiar with police service dogs and training programs
besides the knpv (royal dutch police dog association). I'am a trainer myself
and looking for contacts, ideas a.s.o.
Specialliy how to train "bark and hold' situation on a dog with difficulty
to to bark in staed of biting.

Karel

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Oct 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/11/98
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Try http://www.policek9.com/index.htm a great web site with lots of info on
K-9s. "The K9 Academy For Law Enforcement operated by Bob Eden and Gord Ney
is a business made up of police officers dedicated to the training of police
K9 handlers." they also have a message center, which might be a good way to
get some more contacts.

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Chris Kosmakos

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Oct 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/12/98
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Donja & Karel (K.van...@hot.A2000.nl) wrote:
: is there anyone familiar with police service dogs and training programs

: besides the knpv (royal dutch police dog association). I'am a trainer myself
: and looking for contacts, ideas a.s.o.
: Specialliy how to train "bark and hold' situation on a dog with difficulty
: to to bark in staed of biting.

Karel - there are a couple of email lists where people commonly discuss
this kind of training. There is a list specifically for law enforcement
dogs and several for protection dogs and schutzhund competitors, where
"bark and hold" training is often discussed. You can find information on
email lists at www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/lists/email-list.html. I believe
you'll also find links to some good sites with the information you're looking
for at www.leerburg.com. There are also some decent books in the protection
section at www.dogandcatbooks.com.

Specific to your question, the following is from McMains "Manstopper!":

"Some dogs when learning "Watchim" bark readily enough but they also
continually lunge at the bad guy. (Note - Watchim is McMains command word
for bark and hold) On the street, this would be a distraction you don't
need. Though I prefer to cut problem behaviors early, addressing this one
too soon can cost the barking lessons to date and perhaps permanently
silence the dog."

"If the dog tends to drive at the agitator while barking, put up with it
until the animal's fire for barking is deeply ingrained. Then, just before
the bad guy appears, switch your leash to the pinch collar and maintain
about an inch of slack in the lead. In this way the leash will tighten
the collar when the dog surges forward in response to "Watchim". This not
only times the consequence more closely with the undesired action, it
greatly lessens the degree of force which, if it were excessive, could
undo training to date."

"As you pull the dog back, tell her "No!-Stay!-Watchim!" while pointing
at the helper. The dog's knowledge of Stay in this chain of commands
should allow her to make the desired mental link. The first time she
holds her position while barking at the agitator, instantly grant her
a bite as a reward, by giving her the bite command."

Lynn K.
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