AKC QUESTON
sixx7
I went to an AKC show 4 or 5 mo. Ago and I have a question. Where does
all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
fashion sense? ? If there is a prescribed dress where do I get a copy
of the guidelines?
Thanks
Robert
PS. This is a joke
Puddysmomm
LOL...I couldn't agree more...I personally love the sports jackets some men
where,with the pattern of their breed in the material,WITH the matching
tie!! hehe
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Lisa Baird
sixx7 wrote:
> I went to an AKC show 4 or 5 mo. Ago and I have a question. Where does
> all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
> approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
> fashion sense? ? If there is a prescribed dress where do I get a copy
> of the guidelines?
>
There must be a whole warehouse somewhere with them! I didn't know there
was that much polyester LEFT in the world!
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Meinheld
>Lisa Baird <lba...@infinet.com> quoted
>sixx7 who wrote
>> I went to an AKC show
>Where does
>> all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
>> approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
>> fashion sense?
Frankly, I'd rather see the bad jackets and dresses than the alternative
outfits that I have seen - little shorts on big butts and sweat suits. Being
in the ring is being on stage with a good looking dog - dress a little for the
show!!
Lori
All that really matters about dog show dress is that it coordinates with
the dog, displays your breed loyalty if possible, and can be de-furred with
relative ease...oh, and it has to pack well and not wrinkle too badly when
used as a bed by said dog.
Lori
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sixx7 <si...@airmail.net> wrote in article
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> I went to an AKC show 4 or 5 mo. Ago and I have a question. Where does
> all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
> approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
> fashion sense? ? If there is a prescribed dress where do I get a copy
> of the guidelines?
>
>
Tibbi Scott
According to sixx7 <si...@airmail.net>:
>I went to an AKC show 4 or 5 mo. Ago and I have a question. Where does
>all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
>approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
>fashion sense? ? If there is a prescribed dress where do I get a copy
>of the guidelines?
Actually at some shows I've seen what are supposed to be show clothes
sold. The requirements seem to be to used the worse flower prints
possible.
For myself, I wear beige mock-turtle necks and beige pants, with dark
forest green blazer. The beige looks great next to the rust of the
Vizsla and the green also makes that rust show up great. The blazer
has great pockets for the bait.
Plus I also always wear slacks. And blazing white sneakers!! :)
The basic rule is: comfort, ease of movement, but still looking neat.
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Tibbi Scott (Standard Disclaimer: my views are my own.)
Todd M. Paterek
I think the worst thing I have seen is high heels on female handlers. This
is asking for a disaster. Comfort and safety is most important in the
apparel a handler chooses. It is also important to compliment your dog in
the colours you choose.
Todd M. Paterek
pate...@buffnet.net
Cocker Spaniels :)
Mrc5555
In article <6bfg6q$m...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Lori "
<WO...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>All that really matters about dog show dress is that it coordinates with
the
>dog, displays your breed loyalty if possible, and can be de-furred
>with
relative ease...oh, and it has to pack well and not wrinkle too badly
>when
used as a bed by said dog.
How many times have you seen a handler take a nice win (major or breed) and
then when the photograph comes through the dog's dark head is lost in the
handler's dark suit or skirt?
Another thing my wife has told me is that all skirts need to have good pockets
for bait.
Marc
Elizabeth
On Fri, 06 Feb 1998 06:53:20 GMT, si...@airmail.net (sixx7) wrote:
>I went to an AKC show 4 or 5 mo. Ago and I have a question. Where does
>all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
>approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
>fashion sense? ? If there is a prescribed dress where do I get a copy
>of the guidelines?
>
>
>Thanks
>Robert
>
>PS. This is a joke
This brings to mind a judge who is now no longer with us
unfortunately. It was in the era of hotpants and after a long day
group time finally came. I cannot now remember what the breed of dog
was, but a lady handler in the ring arrived wearing the world's
shortest possible hotpants. There was quite a stir in the crowd when
she was asked to gait her dog. Arriving back to the judge, he looked
around the ring at the crowd, and with a wicked grin said "Go down and
back once more - for the crowd."
She did to much applause.
Those were the days.
Liz
>
Doug Jones
On Fri, 06 Feb 1998 05:27:08 GMT, Lisa Baird <lba...@infinet.com>
wrote:
>
>
>sixx7 wrote:
>
>> I went to an AKC show 4 or 5 mo. Ago and I have a question. Where does
>> all the bad jackets and dresses come from? Does the AKC have an
>> approved list of horrendous patterns or is it just a Random bad
>> fashion sense? ? If there is a prescribed dress where do I get a copy
>> of the guidelines?
>>
>
>was that much polyester LEFT in the world!
>
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Well, someone has to keep DuPont in business! :-D Speaking as someone
who made the horrible mistake of going to a dog show in a good suit -
it was wet, muddy (red clay), and every dog in the place decided this
was a good time to demonstrate friendliness <sigh> - well, it sort of
makes sense to wear easily cleaned clothing to a dog show - or at
least, those suit and ties that were a "wonderful" gift, and which you
don't really care if they're destroyed.
Doug Jones
Chris Kosmakos
Mrc5555 (mrc...@aol.com) wrote:
:
: Another thing my wife has told me is that skirts need to have good pockets
: for bait.
There's actually a catalog company for women handlers' clothes that has
lined bait pockets. Removable, and the skirts come with replacement
pockets. A niche market, to be sure.
Lynn K.
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Tanzendog
>
>Another thing my wife has told me is that all skirts need to have good
>pockets
>for bait.
>
>Marc
>
Pockets are a must!! And I have to be able to run in it...the sales clerks
think I'm crazy running laps around the dressing room!!!
Candace A. Hume
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Ann Lettis
Doug, you made a good point, those who show frequently usually get
clothes which are washable and save the good stuff for those special
shows like specialties or nationals. Between entry fees, gas money,
tolls, etc., cleaning bills are an expense most choose to cut down on.
ANN - SI, NY, USA
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Flickadee
I remember from my dog show days , if you were showing a black dog you wore
lite colors, a lite dog dark colors, a spotted dog solid colors and women no
skirts so short you saw their navels. or blouses so low they fell out. But any
thing to get the judges attention if you have a really bad dog. In the dog show
game so much of the time its who's holding the lead that wins.
Many years ago, I went to a national specialty show and a guy dressed as a
women was showing, possibly the ugliest woman I have ever seen, but at least
shows are never boring.
DogStar716
>I remember from my dog show days , if you were showing a black dog you wore
>lite colors, a lite dog dark colors, a spotted dog solid colors
Now I know you are all talking conformation here.....
In obedience, you are supposed to "blend" with your dog, so as to hide little
"misteps" in heeling and such. Personally, when I show in obedience I dress to
compliment my dog; I feel like the judge knows all the tricks and would be
watching me especially close if I were to "blend":) Just my personal
paranoia....
Ann Lettis
Flickadee, I agree with most of what you said, however, truly believe
that who is holding the lead is not what usually determines the win. As
an owner/handler I believe that one can successfully compete against the
pro, if, you work hard at handling skills and have a good dog. It's
always easy to blame a loss on the fact the winning dog was handled by a
pro, but a little harder to look at your own dog and evaluate both him
and your presentation objectively.
dogsnus
a puppy match with Luke...
It un-seasonably rained.. and I was out there with a GSD , light
in color, wearing a long dark green sweater, jeans, (wet) and a black
umbrella soaking wet and shivering...so was Luke, he was drenched,
and really did NOT look his best right then!
Luke won some ribbons, but the waiting around and doing gait things
bored me..
I was disallusioned in showing conformation, and found myself over
by the obedience rings watching the more interesting dogs, (IMO).
:)
Terri
Jana
> I was disallusioned in showing conformation, and found myself over
> by the obedience rings watching the more interesting dogs, (IMO).
> :)
> Terri
Yes! I saw a handsome collie take High in Trial with a 195 today in
Novice B - second place was a Newfie, and third was of all things a
Greyhound. This was the first time I've ever seen a grey in obedience,
I think he ended up with a 190.
OTOH, saw a weird thing today - a Border Collie pup with its ears
propped, so that they would stand like a collie's ears (upright with the
top third folded over - a tulip ear). I've seen this done often with
collies, but I thought the BC standard was more permissive - ie not as
detail-oriented? Conformation - cest la vie!
Jana
Twzl & Sligo, Happy Together
> Yes! I saw a handsome collie take High in Trial with a 195 today in
>Novice B - second place was a Newfie, and third was of all things a
HIT was a 195? Where was this?!
Ann, Twzl & Sligo
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THE TOFFEE
I will never forget the first time I went on the Cherry Blossom circuit with my
former boss. She told me not to pack any good clothes that I wouldn't mind
throwing out when I got home. But at the same time I needed to be prepared to
show every day of the circuit in case she was tied up in another ring.
Well, she was right. I got home, exhausted of course, and emptied my suitcase
right into the trash can.
Now, showing newfs, we also have to worry about the slime factor. :) And I have
given up on the nice outfit for Best of Breed at the national. Every year I
have bought something really nice it has either been too hot or cold to wear it
and end up wearing just some other otufit.
I did find a very nice line of coordinating tops, blazer type jackets and
skirts at a local department store. All machine washable, nice pockets (2- one
for bait and one for drool rag), good length,didn't wrinkle, and FASHIONABLE!!!
But the store went out of business and I have yet to find the brand anywhere
else.
Anyone watch QVC? They have some designer named Susan something... Clothes
look good, decent prices, supposedly guaranteed not to wrinkle... Worth a try?
Stacy
Tanzendog
>
>I will never forget the first time I went on the Cherry Blossom circuit with
>my
>former boss. She told me not to pack any good clothes that I wouldn't mind
>throwing out when I got home. But at the same time I needed to be prepared to
>show every day of the circuit in case she was tied up in another ring.
>Well, she was right. I got home, exhausted of course, and emptied my suitcase
>right into the trash can.
I wear wool blazers and skirts in the winter, linen and cotton in the summer.
Some of my summer stuff is washable, everything else gets brushed off after
every show, and drycleaned every 3 or 4 shows. A lot of my stuff is mix and
match, Sag Harbor is my favorite for the wool stuff.
Since I show poodles, shedding isn't a big factor, however I seem to collect
plenty of hair while grooming. (Thank God I don't have to deal with drool!).
I usually get a new outfit for the National, particularly if I am showing a
special.
Most of my clothes hold up really well, unless my dogs get in the closet and
eat the pockets (usually from the inside).
Nancy E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin
All women's skirts, dresses and slacks should have pockets for liver as far
as I am concerned :-D and NO suit jackets should EVER have fake pockets on
them.
The one woman I knew of who was *really* annoying showed all black dogs
wearing a white wool suit in the winter and that suit never had a hair or a
muddy spot on it - *I* on the other hand learned to pack an extra outfit so
that when the car sick dog (who was never ever ill before) or the dog with
diarrhea ( who never had a problem except that once <g>) either threw up on
me or planted disgusting paws on me chest center <g> - well lets say that
changing can make a lot of sense :-D on occasion.
Anyway just try and find a women's right size right color anything with
pockets! and THEN try and find it in a wrinkle free fabric that does not
collect hair!
As for bad taste in clothing - have you ever seen a woman in full makeup
including false nails and eyelashes wearing a purple and orange sequined
nightmare (oops I mean evening wear<g>) - I did once <shudder> could hardly
see the dogs for the glare! Certainly the conformation discussed ringside
had little to do with the dogs. And on one national specialty video I
showed off to someone the comment was 'don't any of those women know that
past a certain age knees just are NOT attractive on anyone?' <teehee>
I personally deplore the need to 'dress up' (though I would not want to
see filthy kennel clothes either) for a dog show and certainly see no need
to subject women to wearing skirts for the occasion.But that is the current
style windy day or not I just want to know why all small dogs prefer to
gait underneath the skirt when in the show ring as opposed to training
sessions where they present themselves nicely?
Last time I checked the dogs were being presented not the handlers and what
the handler wears should not matter at ALL IMO though I have seen tight
pants, short skirts, low cut blouses, or open shirts win upon occasion ;-)
Nancy
Mrc5555 <mrc...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Mrc5555
In article <01bd34c3$085076c0$2ad8...@fmkaffen.ix.netcom.com>, "Nancy
>Last time I checked the dogs were being presented not the handlers and
>what
the handler wears should not matter at ALL IMO though I have seen
>tight
pants, short skirts, low cut blouses, or open shirts win upon occasion
>;-)
Nancy --
Of course in the wacky and wonderful world of dog shows, you do get the male
judge who puts up the prettiest female handler, but you also sometimes get the
male judge who puts up the best looking male handler.
Marc
Nancy E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin
Oh I KNOW that - which is why I mentioned open shirts and tight pants as
well as other attire - tsk tsk my friend I had no sexist intent and tried
to cover a range of 'reasons' ;-) for *any* sex anyone might choose to be
influenced by <g>.
Nancy
Mrc5555 <mrc...@aol.com> wrote in article
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Benjamin G. Hitchner
Dressing for conformation, don't "blend"... for obedience
"blend"....been there, done that!
Then there's always dressing for herding trials: comfy old jeans,
workboots, comfy old shirt, old coat....not a bad deal really - I don't
even bath the dogs before the trial (why bother, the first thing they
do is find some nice sheep dung to roll in!).
- Jennifer and the Cardigans
AVRAMA GINGOLD
> In obedience, you are supposed to "blend" with your dog, so as to hide lit
> my dog; I feel like the judge knows all the tricks and would be
> watching me especially close if I were to "blend":) Just my personal
> paranoia....
Nope, you are not SUPPOSED to blend with the dog so as to hide
mistakes, even though many handlers do that. (E.g., NEVER ever
wear a skirt with vertical stripes lest determining whether a
finish is straight is facilitated for the judge.)
In general, in conformation handlers dress neatly in suits with jackets
for the men, dresses or skirts and blouses (occasionally culottes)
for the women. Skirts should neither be so tight as to make running
difficult, nor so wide and loose as to get in the dog's eyes.
Obedience is less formal, but I must admit that I am turned off
when I go to an obedience trial and see the handlers in old
jeans and old sweats or t-shirts, and the dogs ungroomed.
Above all, clothes should be neat and unobtrusive. There have been
and are handlers who are exceptions but most of the best are neat.
Someone mentioned a handler in heels; even at Westminster in Best of
Show judging, the female handlers in long dresses are wearing flats
or running shoes.
Avrama & Shomer
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Nancy E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin
I forgot to mention before that there is also conformation dressing to HIDE
flaws - I saw one lady finish a dog with a terrible dip in the top line and
the times she showed that dog were the only times I EVER saw her wear a
black skirt to show her black dog!
Nancy
Benjamin G. Hitchner <talg...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
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> Dressing for conformation, don't "blend"... for obedience
> "blend"....been there, done that!
Meinheld
>From: "Nancy E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin" <fmka...@ix.netcom.com>
>forgot to mention before that there is also conformation dressing to HIDE
>flaws - I saw one lady finish a dog with a terrible dip in the top line and
>the times she showed that dog were the only times I EVER saw her wear a
>black skirt to show her black dog!
This is where the AKC judge comes in - they are supposed to run their hands
over the body. Most judges are aware of the little tricks, clips, and
cosmetics used to camaflage little defects, and good and great judges are on
their feet . I saw a Tibetan Terrier at a show recently that was so fluffed
up it looked like an English Sheepdog, the volume of hair making it appear
almost double size to the others in the ring.