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Redman

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Jan 31, 2006, 10:57:02 AM1/31/06
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Is there anything natural I can put down outside my house to discourage dogs
stopping off and having their toilet break. Not bothered about urine it's
the poo I get upset about. Irresponsible owners don't help. I'd love to be
able to catch the scum bags though but up till now I've been unsuccessful.

TIA

Redman


diddy

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Jan 31, 2006, 11:03:14 AM1/31/06
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"Redman" <redma...@btinternet.com> composed these thoughts and posted
them news:113872286...@doris.uk.clara.net:

A fence? Even a low barrier fence would stop people from walking their
dog on your property.

Janet B

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Jan 31, 2006, 11:56:26 AM1/31/06
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 10:03:14 -0600, diddy <di...@diddy.net>, clicked
their heels and said:

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>A fence? Even a low barrier fence would stop people from walking their
>dog on your property.

Most places I've lived are not fond of fencing in the front yard (or
in the case of my front yard where it joins the street, there is a
county easement). And it's also the only place for cars to park
safely, during a party or such.

There are chemical deterrents, but most wash away quickly with rain.
Flags that indicate that you have nasty lawn chemicals on your lawn
may work - without even having to use any actual chemicals! You can
get them at home centers. I'm about to. Tired of the neighborhood
dogs stopping on my lawn, even with their owners cleaning up. Lucy is
pretty territorial and "yells" at them each time. You'd think the
owners would get tired of that or realize it's not very neighborly. I
never have figured out why they can't use their own yards.

--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album

Redman

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Jan 31, 2006, 11:58:58 AM1/31/06
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"diddy" <di...@diddy.net> wrote in message
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Ah, should have mentioned there's already a fence there, it's outside the
main gate that's the problem, it's like a minefield.

Redman


diddy

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Jan 31, 2006, 12:04:22 PM1/31/06
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Janet B <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> composed these thoughts and
posted them news:3c5vt1d82m58cm23e...@4ax.com:

I'm aware of that, and the OP definitely has a problem. I was house
sitting in Ft Lauderdale FL for a month, and was appalled at the dog
owners who did not pick up after their dogs. And because there was such a
build-up, it would take a full time job to clean it all up to a
maintenence level. Property owners have a right to be pissed. It was
really nasty walking. But I did notice that the homes that had low
barrier "borders" Not enough to obstruct viewing, but just high and wide
enough that it was not convenient to step over and "walk your dog" were
skipped over for places that had less "landscaping obstacles"

I think the chemical application flags are also a good idea, but they
would catch on to those rather quickly when they realized that they never
went away. I think a motion sensitive watering system might also be a
good deterrent.

dallygirl

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Jan 31, 2006, 12:22:28 PM1/31/06
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a product is available here in the uk named 'get off my garden' and it
does work, for both cats and dogs. its a green gel and its in big
crystals that you just scatter around, they are not supposed to like
the smell but it does'nt smell bad to us.

another good deterrant ~ and i love doing this is to hand out poop
bags!! i once followed a woman up the road really loudly shouting
''excuse me i just watched that big pile of poo back there fall from
your dogs bottom!'' in the end she couldnt take it any more and she
turned around. i saw my chance and took it ~ (now this could really
have back fired) i took both of her leads from her and while handing
over the bags i said ''i will hold your dogs for you so you can get it
all''.

embarrass them into cleaning up,but of course you need to catch them at
it. my mother on the other hand watched a woman let her jack russell
crap on her lawn and then mum went to the bin. she said to me stay with
the kids please,which i did. mother delivered a soiled nappy to the
ladies garden!!

Rocky

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Jan 31, 2006, 12:44:52 PM1/31/06
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"Redman" <redma...@btinternet.com> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

>> A fence? Even a low barrier fence would stop people from
>> walking their dog on your property.
>
> Ah, should have mentioned there's already a fence there,
> it's outside the main gate that's the problem, it's like a
> minefield.

Then I'd consider diddy's suggestion of a motion activated
watering system - it could "accidentally" spray through the
fence, especially if it's a chain link gate. Natch, this would
depend on where you live. It wouldn't work here this time of
year.

Or, how about providing poop bags--like grocery store plastic
bags--tied to the fence? It would at least provide a subtle
message that you're aware of what they're up to. Even if
only the "good" owners picked up, it would reduce your problem.

--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Janet B

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Jan 31, 2006, 12:50:04 PM1/31/06
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:04:22 -0600, diddy <di...@diddy.net>, clicked
their heels and said:

>barrier "borders" Not enough to obstruct viewing, but just high and wide
>enough that it was not convenient to step over and "walk your dog" were
>skipped over for places that had less "landscaping obstacles"

My lawn meets the street - no sidewalk or anything - first place i've
ever lived w/out sidewalks! I couldn't put a barrier of any sort out
there - it would get run over (and my guests park overlapping the lawn
a bit as well - the street isn't wide enough for the cars to be
completely in the street and still allow traffic to pass safely).

>I think the chemical application flags are also a good idea, but they
>would catch on to those rather quickly when they realized that they never
>went away.

Just an extra-anal green-lawn lover (ok, maybe they'd notice my lawn
wasn't very green!).

> I think a motion sensitive watering system might also be a
>good deterrent.

I've thought about those, but looking at them, they'd zap people
innocently walking by, with or w/out dogs. I doubt I'd be very
popular if I did that!

I did have a little sign in my mailbox-surround of flowers for a bit,
but don't know how effective it was, and it got too weather-worn. I
need to find a tasteful but pointed sign to hang

Marcel Beaudoin

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Jan 31, 2006, 1:12:42 PM1/31/06
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Janet B <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote in
news:4i8vt11n7ce4h50ij...@4ax.com:

> I did have a little sign in my mailbox-surround of flowers for a bit,
> but don't know how effective it was, and it got too weather-worn. I
> need to find a tasteful but pointed sign to hang

How about a sign that says: Leave it on my lawn, I will leave it on your
doorstep.

--
Marcel and Moogli
http://mudbunny.blogspot.com/

Janet B

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Jan 31, 2006, 1:26:03 PM1/31/06
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On 31 Jan 2006 18:12:42 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin

<marcel....@gmail.com>, clicked their heels and said:

>
>How about a sign that says: Leave it on my lawn, I will leave it on your
>doorstep.

cute, but this is more about urine burn on my flowers. Don't people
see that FLOWERS are growing? The mind boggles........

Janet B

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Jan 31, 2006, 1:27:50 PM1/31/06
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On 31 Jan 2006 18:12:42 GMT, Marcel Beaudoin
<marcel....@gmail.com>, clicked their heels and said:

>
>How about a sign that says: Leave it on my lawn, I will leave it on your
>doorstep.

here are some "interesting" ones:
http://www.signswithanattitude.com/no_pooping_sign.html

shelly

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Jan 31, 2006, 1:44:42 PM1/31/06
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on 2006-01-31 at 13:26 <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote:

>cute, but this is more about urine burn on my flowers.
>Don't people see that FLOWERS are growing?

sure they do, they just don't care.

>The mind boggles........

that, it does. but, i'm not a fan of letting my dog go on
other people's property. i've always made them go at home, or
on "public" property (and cleaned up after them). people's
yards, though? no.

how about putting in pavers at the edge of the road, as a sort
of sidewalk, then putting up a low ornamental fence along the
inner edge? that way, people would have a place to walk, but
it wouldn't be as convenient for them to let their dogs have
at your yard.

--
shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net

Janet B

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Jan 31, 2006, 1:57:17 PM1/31/06
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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:44:42 -0500, shelly
<scouv...@bluemarble.net>, clicked their heels and said:

>
>how about putting in pavers at the edge of the road, as a sort
>of sidewalk, then putting up a low ornamental fence along the
>inner edge? that way, people would have a place to walk, but
>it wouldn't be as convenient for them to let their dogs have
>at your yard.

they can walk in the street! only options really, without a sidewalk.
I think pavers would be cost prohibitive - I'd need to do abut 80'
minus driveway of about 10' (?), so 70'.

The main perps are the eeeeeeevil Rottweiler (he's really a very sweet
dog, but Lucy and Rudy do NOT agree, despite never having met him),
who makes his stop on my yard 3x/day (pee and poop, but they clean
up), and a mixed breed along with lab puppy (who grows on a daily
basis). The woman who walks them uses 2 flexis ans spends a lot of
time with her arms all twisted around. UGH. That means they come up
on my lawn, the length of the flexi. 16' I think. Lucy is NOT a
happy camper when they do this. Better than the little petshop thing
(some poo of some sort?) who used to get loose and come up and scratch
on my glass door!

Let's face it - common manners just don't seem to exist.

Rocky

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Jan 31, 2006, 2:17:37 PM1/31/06
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Janet B <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> said in
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:

>>How about a sign that says: Leave it on my lawn, I will
>>leave it on your doorstep.
>
> cute, but this is more about urine burn on my flowers.
> Don't people see that FLOWERS are growing? The mind
> boggles........

My mind doesn't boggle. Many owners simply don't put in the
time with their dogs.

In some respects, I know many of the dogs which stay here better
than their owners. Marking is prime example - I'm amazed at
owners both of male and female dogs who don't recognise that
their dog is about to mark..... now. (FWIW, in terms of speed
marking, females are by far the worst.)

shelly

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Jan 31, 2006, 2:24:36 PM1/31/06
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on 2006-01-31 at 13:57 <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote:

>they can walk in the street!

duh! but, they aren't.

>only options really, without a sidewalk. I think pavers would
>be cost prohibitive - I'd need to do abut 80' minus driveway
>of about 10' (?), so 70'.

they are definitely not cheap, if you need a lot of them.

>Let's face it - common manners just don't seem to exist.

no, they don't. i can't imagine allowing my dog to make a
habit of disrupting resident dogs by trespassing on their
territory. it drives me nuts when the reverse happens. my
landlord always lets his Bumpass Hounds tag along when he
grades the lane or bush-hogs. it pisses harriet right the hell
off to have strange rudedogs lifting their legs on *her* car
and *her* fence and *her* trash cans. not fair, not fair at
all, she says.

--
shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net

Janet B

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Jan 31, 2006, 2:40:05 PM1/31/06
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On 31 Jan 2006 19:17:37 GMT, Rocky <2d...@rocky-dog.com>, clicked
their heels and said:

>Marking is prime example - I'm amazed at
>owners both of male and female dogs who don't recognise that
>their dog is about to mark..... now. (FWIW, in terms of speed
>marking, females are by far the worst.)

they don't WANT to see. Lucy is my marker - the boys don't care at
all. She is NOT allowed to even WALK on someone's lawn though,
which in my neighborhood = no elimination on walks (no common areas at
all). They all get sent out to the yard to pee and/or poop, before a
walk. Lucy is a "kick" marker, even just for urine. I stop her if
I'm out there, because with the warm muddy ground, she's destroying
what little grass there is, but on her own, it's what she does.

When I'm teaching a class, I have to tell students to stop letting
their dog destroy the lawn at the SPCA. A lot of volunteers allow
shelter dogs to do it as well. Yes, they have to pee and poop on the
lawn, and mostly everyone is good about cleaning up, but the kicking
the lawn apart is just not a nice thing.

John Wesley

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Jan 31, 2006, 10:16:01 PM1/31/06
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In article <Xns975C85ADFF319...@130.133.1.4>,
marcel....@gmail.com says...

> Janet B <ja...@bestfriendsdogobedience.com> wrote in
> news:4i8vt11n7ce4h50ij...@4ax.com:
>
> > I did have a little sign in my mailbox-surround of flowers for a bit,
> > but don't know how effective it was, and it got too weather-worn. I
> > need to find a tasteful but pointed sign to hang
>
> How about a sign that says: Leave it on my lawn, I will leave it on your
> doorstep.
>
>

My neighbor used to let her cat crap in my flower bed in my pine straw
making it not so fun to weed. She'd let it out the door and watch it
come to my flower bed. I asked her nicely not to do it. She kept
letting the cat do it. I scooped up the poop and put it in a bag. I
hung the bag on her door knob with a note that said that her cat left it
in my flower bed and I thought she might want it back. I haven't seen
the cat or any poop since.

jw

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