What kind of dog to get next????
Robert Crim
doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
We have always had GSDs (4 so far), but now that I hear the hoofbeats
of impending geezerhood maybe they are just too much dog. I love the
breed, but I also love fast cars and fast women. I am not sure I
could keep up with them either. I *do* drive a '71 VW bus now.
I plugged in my answers to one of those "let us pick your breed"
things on the web, and the following list came up. I have added my
pithy remarks to each entry.
Flat-Coated Retriever (score = 100)----never heard of them
Labrador Retriever (score = 97)----nice dogs, all over
English Setter (score = 97)----never seen one
Golden Retriever (score = 97)-----nice dogs, lots of hair
Chesapeake Bay Retriever (score = 96)----nice dogs, I've seen a lot
Brittany (score = 87)----don't know about them
Giant Schnauzer (score = 86)---look like old curmudgeons,
Field Spaniel (score = 84)--never heard of them
Curly-Coated Retriever (score = 83)----never heard of them
Portuguese Water Dog (score = 82)----tey look like poodles?
Otterhound (score = 82)----never heard of them
Irish Water Spaniel (score = 82)----never heard of them
Keeshond (score = 76)----kind of small and fuzzy
Bloodhound (score = 76)----to0 depressing
Samoyed (score = 76)---too small and too white
Gordon Setter (score = 76)---pretty but dumb?
English Cocker Spaniel (score = 74)----too small
Ibizan Hound (score = 74)----never heard of them
Italian Spinoni (score = 74)---I thought that was an ice cream
Bulldog (score = 74)---too low and slow
German Shepherd Dog (score = 71)know them, but maybe too much dog??
We would like to have the input of the non-troll regulars here on what
breed/behavior would be best for us at this and future stages in life.
I can't say I'll do as you say, but I will certainly read and ponder
your input.
Robert and Longsuffering wife
J1Boss
>I plugged in my answers to one of those "let us pick your breed"
>things on the web, and the following list came up. I have added my
>pithy remarks to each entry.
>
> Flat-Coated Retriever (score = 100)----never heard of them
******** Then you're missing out a GREAT breed! I'm currently fostering a
pup, who's destined to leave soon, and I'm totally in love with her. I lost
one in October, my dear Lindy, and a more beautiful dog is hard to find. The
down side of the breed: cancer that takes them way too young sometimes.
Energetic, but a lot of fun. "Peter Pan" of dogs. The Golden breed emerged
from flat-coats, way back when. Flat-coats are a slighter build, different
head, generally not as much coat (but some have a lot).
go to: to learn more:
http://www.io.com/~cane/fcr/fcrhome.html
> English Setter (score = 97)----never seen one
****** A nice breed, and I particularly like the field setters which are
tri-color.
> Golden Retriever (score = 97)-----nice dogs, lots of hair
******** And it's all over my house! Great dogs though!
> Chesapeake Bay Retriever (score = 96)----nice dogs, I've seen a lot
******** usually a bit (?!?!!?) "harder" than the above mentioned breeds, not
so much the lab, but the FCR, ES, and GR
> Brittany (score = 87)----don't know about them
******** Probably smaller than you'd like
> Giant Schnauzer (score = 86)---look like old curmudgeons,
******* A working dog with a hard head.
> Field Spaniel (score = 84)--never heard of them
********* Springer sized, without a lot of the problems. Chocolate/Liver
coloration
> Curly-Coated Retriever (score = 83)----never heard of them
********* another nice, but "harder" retriever breed. The coat is like a shorn
poodle.
> Portuguese Water Dog (score = 82)----tey look like poodles?
******** sorta. ask LISA!!!!!!!!!
> Otterhound (score = 82)----never heard of them
******** Cool looking dogs, but they are a scenthound.
> Irish Water Spaniel (score = 82)----never heard of them
************ Look like chocolate standard poodles, but kinda goofy.
> Keeshond (score = 76)----kind of small and fuzzy
******* Actually kinda medium and fuzzy.
> Bloodhound (score = 76)----to0 depressing
******** and, well, a bit dim.
> Samoyed (score = 76)---too small and too white
******* not so small! but yes - white and hairy
> Gordon Setter (score = 76)---pretty but dumb?
******* nope. But goofy was designed after them.
> English Cocker Spaniel (score = 74)----too small
******** true.
> Ibizan Hound (score = 74)----never heard of them
******** A weird looking sighthound. Think egyptian cat in a dog body.
> Italian Spinoni (score = 74)---I thought that was an ice cream
******** Retrievers! rare but neat dogs.
> Bulldog (score = 74)---too low and slow
********* short life span and don't tolerate heat well.
> German Shepherd Dog (score = 71)know them, but maybe too much dog??
******** If you think so, probably.
>We would like to have the input of the non-troll regulars here on what
>breed/behavior would be best for us at this and future stages in life.
>
>I can't say I'll do as you say, but I will certainly read and ponder
>your input.
******** Robert - you can probably tell from the above answers, but I'm
definitely a "Soft" retriever fan. I've "permanently" owned a golden a
flat-coat and lab mixes. I've fostered golden mixes and this little doll of a
flat-coat I have now. I somtimes think I'll "branch out", but find myself
attracted to the same type of dog each and every time!
Since you aren't familiar with many of the breeds listed, get youself a copy of
an all-breed book (or do web searches), and find out a bit more about some of
them. Even better, dog show season is upon us. Watch Westminster in a few
weeks! GO to some shows and MEET dogs of some of these breeds. Watch them
in the grooming areas and see what gets "done" to them to make them gorgeous
(but keep in mind that the average owner doesn't go to that length).
Let us know your findings!
Janet Boss<BR>
Best Friends Dog Obedience<BR>
"Nice Manners for the Family Pet"<BR>
<BR>
"Read your question for the obvious answer"
Dogman
frit...@earthlink.net (Robert Crim) says:
[...]
>We would like to have the input of the non-troll regulars here on what
>breed/behavior would be best for us at this and future stages in life.
>
>I can't say I'll do as you say, but I will certainly read and ponder
>your input.
[...]
Robert, I'd really like to help you, but I don't think I can.
My opinion couldn't possibly be as objective as it should be.
And although I *think* I know you pretty well by now, I might not have
a clue, either!
I think Janet just gave you some great advice: find yourself a good
all-breed book and start reading up on *all* the breeds.
You apparently know very little about many of them, so you really need
to go to school on the rest before you make a decision you're going to
have to live with for perhaps 10-15 years.
Just take your time, eh? As hard as it will be to say no to the first
gorgeous little puppy you run across, you *must.*
You should also go to dog shows, obedience and/or field trials, etc.,
and look around, ask a LOT of questions, etc. And because your wife
is going to be involved in the decision, drag her along, too.
It's a lot of *fun* to be at this stage, Robert, especially if you
*make* it fun and not work, which should be pretty easy to do because
you're always going to be around dogs and dog people, etc., and I have
the distinct feeling that you're a fun kinda guy no matter where you
are.
Somewhere along your journey, I think, the puppy that you and your
wife are really looking for will probably choose *you,* and you'll
both know it instinctively.
Anyway, good luck on your journey!
--
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Marshall Dermer
>Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
>doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
>hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
>We have always had GSDs (4 so far), but now that I hear the hoofbeats
>of impending geezerhood maybe they are just too much dog. I love the
>breed, but I also love fast cars and fast women. I am not sure I
>could keep up with them either. I *do* drive a '71 VW bus now.
>
We had a GSD/Lab cross as our first dog, now we have a Havanese. He is
easily trainable (fetches, releases, sits, comes, downs, dances, rolls over,
looks left, looks right, eliminates and plays dead, on command), weighs just
13 pounds, does not shed, will always look like a puppy (see URL below), is
mellow, lets me brush and scale his teeth, and if all goes well might make it
to 15 years old. Needless to say he is quite different from our GSD/Lab
combo. An added bonus is that nearly all women find him adorable.
--Marshall
PS: Clicker training produced ninety percent of this behavior together
with a very small amount of verbal punishment.
Marshall Lev Dermer/ Department of Psychology/ University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee/ Milwaukee, WI 53201/ der...@uwm.edu
http://www.uwm.edu/~dermer
"Life is just too serious to be taken entirely seriousyl!"
"It is better to listen to a wise man's reproof than
to listen to the praise of fools." (Ecclesiastes 7:5)
Paulette B.Nolan
I would love to see you get a Chessie,and as you know they are my
favourite.
I do however, think that they need mucho exercise,much more so than a
lot of the retrievers.
I know you would find them VERY intelligent,just like Fritz...
Chessies though are very protective,and can be a problem,and are BIG!
If I was thinking of a more laid back,less physical dog, and a tad
smaller,I like the Boynkin Spaniels.
Their brown ,of course ,and come out of South Carolina.
If you don't want to go the sporting dog route,I am enamoured with the
"big"little dog..A Welsh or Pembroke Corgi...
I have had the pleasure of visiting Tasha Tudor,of gardening fame,and
hers are great,and act so much like a big dog!
I know Robert,that what ever kind of dog you get,he will be lucky...
All good thoughts to you and your wife,and of course, prayers tonight
for Fritz...
Paulette~
A dogs life is too short...
Their only fault really...
Cris Waller
Crim) wrote:
>Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
>doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
>hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
>We have always had GSDs (4 so far), but now that I hear the hoofbeats
>of impending geezerhood maybe they are just too much dog. I love the
>breed, but I also love fast cars and fast women. I am not sure I
>could keep up with them either. I *do* drive a '71 VW bus now.
>
>I plugged in my answers to one of those "let us pick your breed"
>things on the web, and the following list came up. I have added my
>pithy remarks to each entry.
>
> Flat-Coated Retriever (score = 100)----never heard of them
For a brief quiz on whether a flatcoat might be the breed for you,
check out http://members.tripod.com/antique_fcr/fcr.htm. There are
some links to flatcoat sites there too.
I don't usually recommend flatcoats to many people, but I know you are
a great dog owner :>)
Flatcoats are the most mercurial and puckish of the retriever breeds.
If you like both setters and retrievers, you might like FCRs. If you
want an active, lively, intelligent, quirky dog with a mind of its
own, you might like an FCR. If you want a retrieving maniac, hiking
buddy, or just a dog who wants to know what you are doing-*all* the
time- a flatcoat might be for you.
Physically, they have the slenderest build of all retrievers, and a
moderate amount of coat. Their grooming needs are closer to a Lab than
a Golden.
Flatcoats are not protection dogs. They love everyone. Aggression to
humans and animals is almost unknown in the breed. They are incredibly
active and need *lots* of exercise and mental stimulation. They are
whirlwind destructo puppies who take a *long* time to mature. Lots of
them like to eat poop and foreign objects.
FCR breeeders are mostly zealous in their desire to protect the breed.
FCRs are among the most versatile of dogs around, are smart and
gentle, and are incredibly lovable- they don't want popularity to find
and ruin this breed. So pups are hard to find.
The most worrisome health/genetic problem with FCR's is cancer. They
have a low rate of dysplasia and eye problems compared with other
retriever breeds. There are some problems with bad patellas, but it is
also fairly rare.
There is a *great* mailing list on flatcoats. It can be subscribed to
at list...@trumpkin.gcn.ou.edu. with the message "subscribe fcr
YourFirstName YourLastName
You seem to like lively dogs that you can have a lot of fun with. A
flatcoat might be perfect for you. Do check them out!
Cris Waller
Cr...@ix.netcom.com
Visit the Predator Defense Institute website!
http://www.envirolink.org/orgs/pdi/index.htm
Flat-coated retriever art gallery
http://members.tripod.com/antique_fcr/index.html
dogsnus
>
> Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
> doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
> hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
> We have always had GSDs (4 so far), but now that I hear the hoofbeats
> of impending geezerhood maybe they are just too much dog. I love the
> breed, but I also love fast cars and fast women. I am not sure I
> could keep up with them either. I *do* drive a '71 VW bus now.
snipped pick your breed here, etc..
Oh dear.
Robert and long suffering Wife,..
Please! You had 3 successes and only one failure!
Are you REALLY sure you are ready to change breeds based
on this one episode?
FWIW, I drive an'85 Subaru Wagon with almost 200,000 miles on it.
So there!
You have enjoyed the dominant and pointy eared dog
for yrs. now, so please, be sure you want to change, eh?
I only saw about 3 dogs you mentioned with pointy ears.
There were a few with dominant personalites of course,
like the FCR, but, have you and wonderful wife thought
about adopting an adult rescue GSD from a reliable source,or
are your hearts set on a puppy?
Just wondering.
Depressed that you might not want another GSD..
Why?
Because you two are exactly the kind of people that
can rescue and care for a GSD when those * other* 10,000 people
cannot. I'd donate my GSD's to you two upon my death (and possibly 5
other
people on this list), and that's it.
I wouldn't trust anyone else.
Just my input.
YMMV,
Terri
:)
Chris Kosmakos
: Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
: doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
: hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
There are a lot of breeds that just aren't going to be completely
satisfying to people who have been drawn to 4 GSDs. You probably
have a couple of expectations of a dog that you don't even completely
realize yourselves - like being the primary focus of a dog's attention,
a certain level of trainability and adaptation, etc., a certain
"mature" personality.
There are a bunch of breeds that would satisfy those needs, but would
also still probably be too much dog, just like a GSD. Briards, BCs,
Gnt. Schnauzers, Chessies, and Airedales fall into that category. If
I read you correctly, you're looking for a pretty active, intelligent,
trainable, somewhat pushy dog that you can take out in public easily.
My recommendations:
Pembroke Welsh Corgi
Flat or curly coated retrievers
Aussie
Border terrier
Std. or minature Schnauzer
Lynn K.
--
chri...@netcom.com
Ludwig Smith
>Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
>doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
>hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
> Brittany (score = 87)----don't know about them
Very active dogs and very 'birdy'. All the activity level of Border
Collies but not quite as smart and therefore without the neurotic
tendencies.
> Giant Schnauzer (score = 86)---look like old curmudgeons,
Large, active, hard. If you want one, get it from a 'pet' breeder
rather than one that breeds for Schutzhund. A Schutzhund line might
be a bit more than you're looking for. Probably the closest in
temperament on your list to German Shepherd Dogs.
> Portuguese Water Dog (score = 82)----they look like poodles?
Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bouncy.
I don't know if you had them in mind, but you might want to think
about Rhodesian Ridgebacks. They're relatively close to German
Shepherd Dogs in temperament and style. Their only fault is that they
hate water, including rain.
You're in my area. If you're interested in Brittanys, Giant
Schnauzers or Rhodesian Ridgebacks, let me know and I could arrange
for you to meet a decent specimen of each.
Ludwig Smith (top...@erols.com)
Dog FAQs:
http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/
Ger...@gateway.net
>
> Flat-Coated Retriever (score = 100)----never heard of them
> Labrador Retriever (score = 97)----nice dogs, all over
> English Setter (score = 97)----never seen one
English Setters are wonderful, personality wise, loving and sweet, and the
most handsome dogs you've ever seen.
Email me if you want more info
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Robert Crim <frit...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
>doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
>hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
>of impending geezerhood maybe they are just too much dog. I love the
>breed, but I also love fast cars and fast women. I am not sure I
>could keep up with them either. I *do* drive a '71 VW bus now.
>
>things on the web, and the following list came up. I have added my
>pithy remarks to each entry.
>
to swim, need exercise. Tail wagger, loves people. Not as popular as Labs
or Goldens, though I don't know why. Excellent hunting retriever.
> Labrador Retriever (score = 97)----nice dogs, all over
Most popular breed in America. Needs exercise.
> English Setter (score = 97)----never seen one
Gundog, as well. Needs exercise, not as hyper as an Irish Setter.
> Golden Retriever (score = 97)-----nice dogs, lots of hair
My favorite. Hair is easy to manage. Dries easily, easy to sweep up.
> Chesapeake Bay Retriever (score = 96)----nice dogs, I've seen a lot
Great dog, more protective of property than Goldens, Labs, and Flat Coats.
Think of them as GSD's with webbed feet.
> Brittany (score = 87)----don't know about them
Gundog, needs exercise, but smaller than the retrievers and setters.
> Giant Schnauzer (score = 86)---look like old curmudgeons,
Great companions, need exercise.
> Field Spaniel (score = 84)--never heard of them
big time runner. Gundog. Spaniels were bred to flush out small game.
> Curly-Coated Retriever (score = 83)----never heard of them
Very much like a Chessie in temperment. Excellent water dog, rare. Looks
like a flat-coat with poodle hair, low maintenance coat.
> Portuguese Water Dog (score = 82)----tey look like poodles?
not sure
> Otterhound (score = 82)----never heard of them
Ditto
> Irish Water Spaniel (score = 82)----never heard of them
Ditto
> Keeshond (score = 76)----kind of small and fuzzy
> Bloodhound (score = 76)----to0 depressing
> Samoyed (score = 76)---too small and too white
they can get huge. Raindeer dogs, can go to 100 lbs. easily.
> Gordon Setter (score = 76)---pretty but dumb?
Smartest of all the setters. the preferred Setter by hunters. A bit
stubborn, and more aloof than the other setters as well.
> English Cocker Spaniel (score = 74)----too small
> Ibizan Hound (score = 74)----never heard of them
Look like a greyhound.
> Italian Spinoni (score = 74)---I thought that was an ice cream
> Bulldog (score = 74)---too low and slow
> German Shepherd Dog (score = 71)know them, but maybe too much dog??
Many of the larger gundogs listed above might also be too much dog. They do
need to run and swim, but are less protective than GSD's. A smaller gundog
like a Brittany might be the perfect match. Easy to train, but won't need
as much running as a Lab or Golden. Of course all dogs need/require/love
attention.
>
>We would like to have the input of the non-troll regulars here on what
>breed/behavior would be best for us at this and future stages in life.
>
>I can't say I'll do as you say, but I will certainly read and ponder
>your input.
>
>Robert and Longsuffering wife
>
Cris Waller
wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:15:03 -0500, "Mark Kreutzfeld"
><mark...@wwnet.net> wrote:
>
>If I may add some of my clarifications
>
>>
>>> Flat-Coated Retriever (score = 100)----never heard of them
>>Friendly. Was once coupled with the Golden as a breed. Very active, loves
>>to swim, need exercise. Tail wagger, loves people. Not as popular as Labs
>>or Goldens, though I don't know why. Excellent hunting retriever.
>
>they are hard to find, if there were more of them people would be more
>aware of how great these dogs are.
And if there were more of them there would be more in rescue, more bad
breeders, etc. FCR people keep a low profile *on purpose*. Right now,
there are almost *no* FCRs in rescue, and when there is just one,
people across the continent work together to rescue the dog. FCRs are
not a breed for the average person-they are just too active and
intelligent. Much like a border collie, they are *great* for the right
person, but disaster for someone who wants just a couch potato dog.
>>> Curly-Coated Retriever (score = 83)----never heard of them
>>Very much like a Chessie in temperment. Excellent water dog, rare. Looks
>>like a flat-coat with poodle hair, low maintenance coat.
>
>Like a flatty?? they are black with a straight coat, curlys are brown
>I think you meant to say looks like a chessie with a poodle's curls
Actually, there are liver flatcoats, and *most* curlies are black (are
you perhaps thinking of the Irish Water Spaniel-that's a brown
curly-coated dog) I think the reference was more to temperment than
color, anyways. In my limited experience with curlies (several dogs
that one local breeder owns), they didn't have a CBR temperment as far
as aggression goes, although they *were* strong and stubborn, and not
as indiscriminately affectionate as an FCR. In size they are more like
a CBR too- bigger than an FCR.
Sue
geezerhood" is another way of saying.. do I really want to deal with potty
training and terrible 2's... you might skip the puppyhood and adopt an
older GSD... food for thought, although I'm betting you've already thought
of that.
I understand your dog doldrums. My husband, who was leery of getting a 7
week puppy..(EEEK the work) now says... "I always knew I missed having a
dog.. I just didn't know how much." We can't imagine life without her
now.
My pick? Lab... but I'm prejudiced <S> guess what breed Jadee is?
Sue and high energy Jadeepup
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Robert Crim <frit...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<36be2aba...@news.earthlink.net>...
> Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
> doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
> hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
<snip for space and etiquette >
>
J1Boss
>>Very much like a Chessie in temperment. Excellent water dog, rare. Looks
>>like a flat-coat with poodle hair, low maintenance coat.
>
>Like a flatty?? they are black with a straight coat, curlys are brown
>I think you meant to say looks like a chessie with a poodle's curls
>
CURLY's, like flat-coats, can be either black or "brown".
Nancy E.Holmes or R. Nelson Ruffin
have a giant schnauzer in with the other breeds in the top ten for your
criteria - if another GSD will be a bit much you *don't* want a Giant!
I think you might want to look at the smaller members of the herding group
or even the working group and see if you can find a smaller 'version' of
what you like in the GSD.
You might also wish to consider approaching GSD rescue for a young adult
dog with known size and temperament who needs a loving home.
FWIW I personally believe the most honest representations of what breeds
are like can be found in The Harper's Illustrated Handbook of Dogs edited
by Roger Caras.
Nancy
Robert Crim <frit...@earthlink.net> wrote in article
<36be2aba...@news.earthlink.net>...
> Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
> doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
> hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
> snip long part of post
Dogman
joh...@monmouth.com (John Doe) says:
[...]
>>> Chesapeake Bay Retriever (score = 96)----nice dogs, I've seen a lot
>>Great dog, more protective of property than Goldens, Labs, and Flat Coats.
>>Think of them as GSD's with webbed feet.
>
>Sorry, but chessies are nothing like a GSD. I tend to think of my
>chessie as a lab with brains
[...]
Hey, asshole, here's an offer you can't refuse.
Especially since you know so much about dogs.
And it's a chance to kill two birds with one stone, so to speak.
I bet that my really dumb Labs (any one of them) can run circles
around your really brainy Chessie in a field trial or hunt test.
I know it's really stupid to make stupid bets like that, but I'm
addicted to gambling and just can't help myself sometimes, you know
what I mean?
So, I'm willing to wager, say, $5000 of *my* money against $50 of
*yours.*
[I'll even put the money in escrow, etc.]
I mean, you really can't make a more stupid bet than that, can you?
And then after our dogs do their thing, you and I can do ours, eh?
We can even do this on *your* turf, say at one of *your* local
field-trial or hunt-test grounds. New York is littered with them.
And especially if it's a sanctioned trial or test. either AKC, UKC,
NAHRA, I don't care.
I repeat, if your real smart Chessie beats my really dumb Lab in a
sanctioned field trial or hunt test, I'll give you $5000.
And if my really dumb Lab beats your really smart Chessie, you only
owe me $50.
And, hey, I *love*Chessies, too, in fact I breed a few from time to
time. You'll have to meet Jack someday.
But I won't even bring one of my really smart Chessies to challenge
your really smart Chessie, I'll just bring one of my really dumb Labs.
Dumber than a brick, he is.
But what the hell, I'm loaded, and I really wanted a chance to meet
you, you know what I mean?
So think about, okay? I'm ready to travel.
And you know how to reach me, eh?
:>)
Dogman
joh...@monmouth.com (John Doe) says:
[...]
>>I bet that my really dumb Labs (any one of them) can run circles
>>around your really brainy Chessie in a field trial or hunt test.
>
>big deal
>when are you going to act upon your initial threats, first we'll clean
>up that business before we enter upon any other little deals.
Yeah, right. Yadda yadda yadda.
And exactly what I thought you'd do.
More talk, but STILL no walk.
You are to dogs what Pee Wee Herman is to movie theatres.
:>(
Dogman
joh...@monmouth.com (John Doe) says:
>On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 02:00:45 GMT, dog...@i1.net (Dogman) wrote:
>>But what the hell, I'm loaded, and I really wanted a chance to meet
>>you, you know what I mean?
>well pussy man, the ball is still stuck in your court, you contact me
>I'll give directions right to the door
Well, just e-mail them to me. and I'll be right there.
I *promise.*
Dogs in tow.
Otherwise, stop bothering us here. Okay?
Do something smart just once in your miserable little life and stop
this crap -- okay?
>>So think about it, okay? I'm ready to travel.
>
>so get off your butt and get going
Damn, you're a boring little schmuck, aren't you?
>>And you know how to reach me, eh?
>wrong again! doofus, when will you get it correct, when someone makes
>a threat(you), the threatened(me) doesn't call the threat maker(you)
>to schedule an appointment.
I've asked you REPEATEDLY now to show me where I ever threatened you,
and thus far you haven't shown me shit.
And if you can show me where I did, I'll write you and APOLOGIZE
Yes, the Mad Dogman will even apologize, and you'll *never* see me
making that offer *ever* again.
So until you do, it's plainly obvious to anyone here with a clue that
the Emperor isn't wearing any clothes.
>I know you won't do a damned thing, so how about this?
>my $5000 to your $50 that you are such a pussy that you'll never carry
>out any one of your empty threats.
>See sonny you're not the only one who has some play money.
If I ever threatened you, I *would* indeed carry through.
But I didn't.
But I'll make you the same bet. If you ever do contact me privately,
I bet you $5000 that I show up.
Wanna bet?
:>)
Charles Newman
website the day after I had my mixed breed, Shadow, put down. Have you
given any thought to giving a home to an older dog or does it have to be
a purebred puppy? Our rescue dog, Xena, has been a wonderful addition
to our family. I was looking for a smart dog with high energy and
that's what I got.
Pat
Robert Crim wrote:
>
> Well, as some of you know, I and Longsuffering wife are in dog
> doldrums. We both *need* a dog to fill up the space and time that is
> hanging heavy on our heads now. The question is: "what kind?"
>
> We have always had GSDs (4 so far), but now that I hear the hoofbeats
> of impending geezerhood maybe they are just too much dog. I love the
> breed, but I also love fast cars and fast women. I am not sure I
> could keep up with them either. I *do* drive a '71 VW bus now.
>
> I plugged in my answers to one of those "let us pick your breed"
> things on the web, and the following list came up. I have added my
> pithy remarks to each entry.
>
> Flat-Coated Retriever (score = 100)----never heard of them
> Labrador Retriever (score = 97)----nice dogs, all over
> English Setter (score = 97)----never seen one
> Golden Retriever (score = 97)-----nice dogs, lots of hair
> Chesapeake Bay Retriever (score = 96)----nice dogs, I've seen a lot
> Brittany (score = 87)----don't know about them
> Giant Schnauzer (score = 86)---look like old curmudgeons,
> Field Spaniel (score = 84)--never heard of them
> Curly-Coated Retriever (score = 83)----never heard of them
> Portuguese Water Dog (score = 82)----tey look like poodles?
> Otterhound (score = 82)----never heard of them
> Irish Water Spaniel (score = 82)----never heard of them
> Keeshond (score = 76)----kind of small and fuzzy
> Bloodhound (score = 76)----to0 depressing
> Samoyed (score = 76)---too small and too white
> Gordon Setter (score = 76)---pretty but dumb?
> English Cocker Spaniel (score = 74)----too small
> Ibizan Hound (score = 74)----never heard of them
> Italian Spinoni (score = 74)---I thought that was an ice cream
> Bulldog (score = 74)---too low and slow
> German Shepherd Dog (score = 71)know them, but maybe too much dog??
>
FREDERICK HASSEN
>protective,and can be
>a problem,and are BIG!
Our police K-9 unit has a Chessie as one of their dope finding dogs.
He's probably as tough or tougher than their patrol dogs. The patrol
dogs are pretty sociable, but this Chessie is one tough SOB even though
he is not used for anything but finding dope. Careful while approaching
this guy's crate.
FRED HASSEN
"SIT MEANS SIT" Internet talkshow host
http://www.lovemypets.com/sitmeanssit
Dog Training for the Real World
Sit Means Sit Dog Training
When your dog doesn't know:
"Sit from Shinola" 702-877-4581
Kevin Haryett
HASSEN) wrote:
>Our police K-9 unit has a Chessie as one of their dope finding dogs.
>He's probably as tough or tougher than their patrol dogs. The patrol
>dogs are pretty sociable, but this Chessie is one tough SOB even though
>he is not used for anything but finding dope. Careful while approaching
>this guy's crate.
So, If Stone Cold Steve Austin of the WWF were a dog, he'd be a CBR?:)
LOL! Somebody has to tell dogman this!
-Kevin
Searching for a companion....
Dogman
kha...@VIANET.ON.CA (Kevin Haryett) says:
>Clogging the keyboard with dog hair, FHA...@webtv.net (FREDERICK
>HASSEN) wrote:
>
>>Our police K-9 unit has a Chessie as one of their dope finding dogs.
>>He's probably as tough or tougher than their patrol dogs. The patrol
>>dogs are pretty sociable, but this Chessie is one tough SOB even though
>>he is not used for anything but finding dope. Careful while approaching
>>this guy's crate.
>
>So, If Stone Cold Steve Austin of the WWF were a dog, he'd be a CBR?:)
Not a bad analogy.
>LOL! Somebody has to tell dogman this!
And nobody ever has to tell the ol' Dogman anything about CBRs...they
are tied for First Place, as his co-favorite breed.
And always will be.
:>)
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