Police dog Training
Patrick de Vleeschauwer
handling of Police dogs. I have two Belgian sheperds, of wich one has two
certifcats(Policedog 1 and basic Guard dog) with this dog i am going to try
out for the Policedog 2 certificat in May of 1999 . Is there annyone with
the same intrerrest???
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"Patrick de Vleeschauwer" <Patri...@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Hi, my name is Patrick de Vleeschauwer, and my hobby is the training and
> handling of Police dogs. I have two Belgian sheperds, of wich one has two
> certifcats(Policedog 1 and basic Guard dog) with this dog i am going to try
> out for the Policedog 2 certificat in May of 1999 . Is there annyone with
> the same intrerrest???
>
> Patri...@wxs.nl
>
>
make sure your dog is trained as a 'mountain dog' and not as a 'city dog'...
read below to see what happened to a city dog that tragically died
when enlisted for mountain duty
************* begin of clippage ************************* Among the locals,
at least, much of the blame is placed on federal agents' textbook approach -
in the town as well as in the wild - and how it has succeeded only in
alienating the natives while leaving Rudolph runningfree. ''This is one area
of the country where, regardless of the badge, you don't come in riding
buckshot and pushing people around, which is what they've done,'' said Darren
McCullough of nearby Murphy. ''I don't know about the abortion bombs, but I
believe they're using him as ascapegoat on the Olympics.'' There is also
widespread disdain for the outsiders' search methods. Nathan Curtis, a
14-year-old, fourth-generation bear hunter, said city-bred agents would have
better luck ''if they put out a couple girls and a six-pack and just
waited.'' Before taking her 7-year-old daughter to school, Cathy Cottrell of
Andrews laughed as she told a story about an FBI dog falling to its death.
''They brought in a dog from California and it chases a scent right off a
mountain. They should put mountain dogs rather than flatland dogs out
there,'' she said. The federal authorities are doing their best to ignore the
pressure and act as though they are welcome guests here. Some accomplish that
by simply turning on their heels at the approach of a reporter. ''We have
consistently said that we are here solely to locate and apprehend Eric
Rudolph,'' Woody Enderson, an FBI inspector who heads the search effort, said
in a statement. ''We are not going anywhere before our job isdone.'' Then,
warming the hearts of many locals, he promised: ''While we have deeply
appreciated the hospitality of the people in this community, we have no
desire nor plans to remain here after our mission is complete.''
************** end of clippage *************************
to find this article just search for a bunch of the words
between the 'begin' and 'end' tags.....
good reading...
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Chris Kosmakos
: make sure your dog is trained as a 'mountain dog' and not as a 'city dog'...
: read below to see what happened to a city dog that tragically died
: when enlisted for mountain duty
: ************* begin of clippage *************************
: Before taking her 7-year-old daughter to school, Cathy Cottrell of
: Andrews laughed as she told a story about an FBI dog falling to its death.
: ''They brought in a dog from California and it chases a scent right off a
: mountain. They should put mountain dogs rather than flatland dogs out
: there,'' she said.
There are so many inaccuracies in the above that I hardly know where to
begin. Not only do airscent dogs train in all sorts of rough terrain and
are not "mountain" or "city" dogs, no such incident has occurred on the
Rudolph search.
Lynn K.
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you are so brainwashed by your wonderful LE organizations that you
no longer know the truth from fiction. You didn't expect the fbi
to get in the paper and admit that their 'city dog' jumped off the
mountain right after they got him/her up there...
and don't expect the 'regular' media to report it even if they find
out......
just go out and look into words like 'andrews (n.c. or nc) eric
rudolph' and stuff like that and you will find stuff you will
NEVER find in the mainstream press....just like they hide a lot
of the other stuff where we are getting messed over every day...
more like it is that you are a shill and/or married to someone in the
fbi or atf.....or you might even be a law puppy yourself...
yeah...it has been shown time and again that the fbi and the atf
are only too ready to admit their mistakes.....just like they admitted
their mistakes in waco and ruby ridge..... naw...big fat larry potts
was found by his LD superiors not to have done anything wrong...
at least til it got to freeh...who had put him up for a PROMOTION
after the limited rules of engagement that resulted in the
murder of vicki weaver and the attempted murder of leon harris...
and the crackshot (or should we say crackpot) assassin horiuchi?
no body has to do anything to him....god is going to get him soon
enough and turn his black to green and his blue to red....
and I SURE AS HELL believe the fine people of andrews, n.c. rather
than the people who have taken siege of their county who have been
shown time and again to be liars...
you think they are going to tell us (their bosses) about any of their
failures? hell no...but they sure as hell will get in the paper to tell you
the wonderful job when they brought xxxxxx (and you can fill in the blanks)
down....
oh yes, there is a difference between a mountain dog and a city dog..
you are too ignorant to sit back and think about things for yourself..
most probably though, you are shillin' for your drillin'....
any more questions???????????
you are just as guilty as they are.....
>
> Lynn K. ?(stupid)
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Chris Kosmakos
: you are so brainwashed by your wonderful LE organizations that you
: no longer know the truth from fiction. You didn't expect the fbi
: to get in the paper and admit that their 'city dog' jumped off the
: mountain right after they got him/her up there...
: and don't expect the 'regular' media to report it even if they find
: out......
The Rudolph search is a massive longterm effort that has involved many
people from many different agencies. Yes, I have had conversations with
some of them and some are involved in various email lists related to
dogs that do this kind of work. And I have trained a dog for search
work.
But you seem to believe that we should take as gospel a comment from a
woman ambush interviewed while taking her daughter to school instead,
about both an incident that didn't happen and how these dogs are trained
and deployed. Just because it fits your particular rabid bias. I'm
sorry, but some of us have higher standards of proof.
Lynn K.
iroqu...@my-dejanews.com
yeah, Lynn...i can appreciate your concern....
if there is no body it couldn't have happened could it....
unfortunately, the deceased dog used to work with fbi
crackshot (or is that crackpot) assassin Lou Horiuchi...
when he found out his old friend from ruby ridge had fallen
to his death tracking (or trying to track) eric rudolph
he called all his buddies up and told them to send the
dog on to him.
seems they wanted to have the dog reworked by a
taxidermist after they had removed the meat so they
could cook one of their gook meals...
the dog now graces the front door of the former law dog of war, horiuchi
oh...and have a nice day.
henry jackson
Elizabeth B. Naime
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> oh yes, there is a difference between a mountain dog and a city dog..
Perhaps you can explain the differences between a mountain dog and a city
dog. While you are doing so, please let us know on what experience you
base this, e.g. have you ever owned, trained, or handled a search dog?
Was it a mountain dog or a city dog? Does FEMA have separate mountain
and city certification tests?
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terceira
dog trainer for the Department of Defense at Lackland AFB, TX. I train
people how to train their dogs on my off duty time and I am currentlly
training a dog to track for search and rescue. I jumped on this message
after the fact but if their is a question on our training practices I should
be able to clairify the problem. Give me a note if you need some info.
Crimson K-9
Chris Kosmakos wrote in message ...
AVRAMA GINGOLD
of actively doing S&R (search and rescue) work with dogs
she has trained. When it comes to training K9s or S&R
dogs, even cynical I will give Lynn recognition for her
expertise.
The dog who may or may not have "jumped off the mountain"
was not properly trained, but city vs. country has nothing
to do with it. Hvae you ever observed a city police force
K9 working the roof of a high rise (they do not have
high fencing)? No difference, except that the drop from
a high rise is more precipitous. Dogs do have fairly good
depth perception, and they know when they come to a drop.
Get off your hobby horse, and learn a bit from Lynn.
It might benefit you.
avrama & shomer
.. nfx v2.7 [C0000] we're all in the gutter; some are looking at stars
iroqu...@my-dejanews.com
els...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Elizabeth B. Naime) wrote:
> In article <77rpkn$nnu$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, iroqu...@my-dejanews.com
writes:
>
> <nondog bizzareness snipped>
>
> > oh yes, there is a difference between a mountain dog and a city dog..
>
> Perhaps you can explain the differences between a mountain dog and a city
> dog. While you are doing so, please let us know on what experience you
> base this, e.g. have you ever owned, trained, or handled a search dog?
> Was it a mountain dog or a city dog? Does FEMA have separate mountain
> and city certification tests?
naw, but apparently cropwalk does.....
they took the esteemed dog to the top of the mountain and he
promptly jumped off..... but everyone here says it never happened
because the fbi didn't get on the front page news or the nightly
news and admit that it did...
shows how dumb some of you sheeple can be...
they don't realize a few things...
the dog might have been tired of being a govmint agent and decided
to commit suicide.... another angle...everyone knows how intuitive
animals are, don't they...they might have given the dog the scent
of rudolph and, by his intuitive nature, known that eric rudolph
didn't do it..... and, rather than be involved in a faulty
persecution, the dog THEN decided to commit suicide by jumping
of the mountain....
jeez...some of you are unable of any kind of independent thought..
henry jackson
a very brief breakdown
"city dog" - knows how to cross the street when the "cross the street"
indicator is on
"mountain dog" - always look BEFORE you leap..
oh yeah...i have trained a few dogs.......
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Chris Kosmakos
: they took the esteemed dog to the top of the mountain and he
: promptly jumped off..... but everyone here says it never happened
: because the fbi didn't get on the front page news or the nightly
: news and admit that it did...
Nope. I certainly don't rely on the media for information of this kind.
I said it didn't happen because all of the dogs who have worked this
search are alive and well, and their handlers have been actively
communicating within the SAR community since the start of the effort.
I also said that area search dogs are not trained specifically for
urban vs. wilderness work. You can certainly verify that easily by
looking at the training standards of various units at www.nasar.org.
: shows how dumb some of you sheeple can be...
For believing what is supported by fact and experience instead of
what we just would like to believe is true? Why don't you take all that
energy and passion and channel it constructively? Like volunteering
in a SAR unit, for instance.
Lynn K.
ericm...@msn.com
> Hi, my name is Patrick de Vleeschauwer, and my hobby is the training and
> handling of Police dogs. I have two Belgian sheperds, of wich one has two
> certifcats(Policedog 1 and basic Guard dog) with this dog i am going to try
> out for the Policedog 2 certificat in May of 1999 . Is there annyone with
> the same intrerrest???
>
> Patri...@wxs.nl
YourGoldenRetriever
> Hi, my name is Patrick de Vleeschauwer, and my hobby is the training and
> handling of Police dogs. I have two Belgian sheperds, of wich one has two
> certifcats(Policedog 1 and basic Guard dog) with this dog i am going to try
> out for the Policedog 2 certificat in May of 1999 . Is there annyone with
> the same intrerrest???
>
> Patri...@wxs.nl