Station offers live feed of cat stuck on pole. 911 calls pour in from across the U.S.

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Ubiquitous

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Mar 28, 2018, 2:23:14 PM3/28/18
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Gypsy, a black and white cat, had been trapped on top of a power
pole in Phoenix, Ariz., since Friday when KNXV, an ABC affiliate,
posted a livestream of her plight Monday morning to Facebook.

In the hour before a neighbor armed with a ladder rescued Gypsy
around 11 a.m. local time, half a million people had watched the
saga and concerned cat-lovers from across the United States had
flooded 911 dispatchers with more than 100 calls demanding
authorities save the cat, the Phoenix Fire Department told The
Arizona Republic. So many people called about Gypsy that the
dispatching center nearly came to a “screeching halt,” officials
said.

Capt. Rob McDade told the publication that dispatchers fielded calls
from New Jersey, Ohio and Florida as well as the Phoenix area.

At one point, someone moderating the KNXV livestream asked viewers
to stop calling 911 about the cat, according to the Phoenix New
Times.

“They appreciate the concern for this cat, but they are kindly
asking for you to not call 911 in regards to this particular
situation,” the moderator said. “They are aware of the incident and
they are doing everything that they can to get this cat down from
this electricity pole.”

The KNXV livestream on Facebook had 678,000 views, 14,000 likes and
nearly 10,000 shares – along with 19,600 comments, many suggesting
possible ways to rescue the cat, though not all were serious.

“If you flood the city, the water level will be closer to the top of
the (pole),” advised one commenter. Others demanded to know why
firefighters had not saved the cat.

“Poor baby. Call the fire department to get him down,” wrote one.
“OMG... please help the kitty. This is too sad,” posted another.

Phoenix firefighters frequently do respond to calls about rescuing
animals, but did not respond this time because a utility crew was
already en route, officials told the Phoenix New Times.

Many livestream comments, however, expressed anger at the TV station
for posting the livestream and at viewers for calling 911.

“Stop wasting time and money ... I’m sure there is actually
something important people there could be doing ... this is absurd,”
wrote one commenter.

“Hey look a cat stuck up on a pole. We better call the fire
department to rescue him. Wait I have a better idea, let’s set up a
live feed of the cat stuck on the pole,” commented another.


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anim8rfsk

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Mar 28, 2018, 2:56:40 PM3/28/18
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In article <p9gmih$h6j$3...@dont-email.me>,
How often do you see the skeleton of a cat stuck in a tree anyway?

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Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 28, 2018, 3:41:01 PM3/28/18
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Never, because the squirrels dispose of the remains of their meals.

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 3:45:59 PM3/28/18
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Never, they climb down when they're hungry. Every single arsehole who called 911 should be fined. 911 is for PEOPLE not pets. Call the fucking animal rescue folk.

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 3:46:54 PM3/28/18
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That's a brave squirrel taking on a cat. Or does squirrel mean something different in America? I know your robins are our (UK) blackbirds or something.

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Mar 28, 2018, 4:38:00 PM3/28/18
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In article <op.zglqi...@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
Getting up there is far easier than getting down. In trying to climb
down, cats often fall and are killed or injured. That's why you don't
see cat skeletons in trees. Fear of falling is why cats stay on top of
tall poles for three days, starving and thirsty.

James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 4:43:07 PM3/28/18
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Bullshit. Cats can jump from a great height. Cats do not get stuck up anything, they're just enjoying being up there, or avoiding the crowd of gasping morons at the bottom trying to get it down.

I have 5 cats of my own and many high trees they climb, so I know what I'm talking about. Cats may be stupid at a lot of things, but spatial awareness and agility aren't two of them.

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Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 28, 2018, 4:58:51 PM3/28/18
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Did I say it was a lone squirrel?

Rhino

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Mar 28, 2018, 5:03:36 PM3/28/18
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I think there are a lot of widely-held beliefs about cats - like
"they'll come down when they're hungry" or "they're afraid to come down
because they fear falling" - that simply haven't been studied. Things
like this tend to be based on a single anecdote that we've heard from
someone or seen in the newspaper.

My anecdote may contradict both of the two I just cited. Several years
back, there was a news story about a cat up a hydro pole in this area.
It had been up there for several days and people got concerned. Someone
was sent to rescue the cat and I think it was a hydro crew with a cherry
picker. As soon as the bucket of the cherry picker got close to the cat,
it jumped from what was a very considerable height near the top of the
pole and ran off into nearby bushes and was gone from sight.

The fact that it had been there for 3 or 4 days suggests that it was NOT
about to come down just because it was hungry: it must have been
ravenous by that point. And the fact that it jumped from such a great
height suggests that it was not particularly afraid of falling.

Or maybe it was so terrified of the cherry picker and/or the guy in it
this became a greater fear than its fear of falling and made the jump to
escape.


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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 5:30:39 PM3/28/18
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Cite a case of a gang of squirrels.

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 5:32:18 PM3/28/18
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You've just disproved your own point. That the cat would jump if it deemed it necessary. It just wasn't hungry enough. I've found one of my own cats in a shed that it stupidly got trapped in from 3-5 days ago when I went in to put the mower away, and it wasn't malnourished.

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Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 28, 2018, 5:54:10 PM3/28/18
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Haven't you seen the Farmer's Insurance commercial where a gang of
squirrels pelted a guy's car with pine cones?

Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 28, 2018, 5:58:52 PM3/28/18
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One suspects that mice and such are more easily found in a shed than at
the top of a pole.

Personally I think Rhino's last sentence is correct. If the cat was
high enough up that a cherry picker was required, it seems reasonable
that the cat would be afraid of just jumping down.

A Friend

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Mar 28, 2018, 6:00:07 PM3/28/18
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In article <op.zgls5...@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
You have no idea what you're talking about, especially if you think
cats enjoy being stuck at the top of tall poles for days on end. They
stay up there because they're scared. And if we're doing cat counts
(as if that mattered), I've had 70 of them over the course of my life.
I'm in farm country, where there are lots of cats who have done
everything it is possible for a cat to do, and then some.

James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 6:19:35 PM3/28/18
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Why on earth would I watch a commercial?

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 6:19:59 PM3/28/18
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Clearly it wasn't, as it did.

James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 6:21:45 PM3/28/18
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It jumped away from the cherry picker, which proves it can do so. So it would have done when the desire for food was enough.

Anyway, if the animal is too stupid to do the reverse of what it did to get up there, it doesn't deserve rescuing. I wouldn't rescue a human if they were drowning, I'd just shout "learn to swim". Survival of the fittest.

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trotsky

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Mar 28, 2018, 6:42:39 PM3/28/18
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Especially if he thinks climbing down a tree and climbing down a poll
are the same thing. I can't tell if that's a trolling remark or just a
really stupid one.

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A Friend

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Mar 28, 2018, 6:53:37 PM3/28/18
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In article <op.zglxq...@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
All it proves is that the cat was more terrified of the cherry picker
than it was of the height.

I once saw a cat hit by a passing car. (I was on the sidewalk.) The
car stopped and we all looked for the cat. It was gone. The car drove
off. Then I heard a howling from up a hill on the other side of the
road. It was the cat, about 20, 25 feet up from the road. The cat had
gotten that far and no farther. I wrapped her in my shirt, picked her
up and got her to a vet. Broken pelvis, tail detached at the base, and
badly burned on her flank by the car's engine block. Nevertheless, she
got all that way up the hill. The fact that the cherry-picker cat ran
off after hitting the ground means nothing.

> Anyway, if the animal is too stupid to do the reverse of what it did
> to get up there, it doesn't deserve rescuing. I wouldn't rescue a
> human if they were drowning, I'd just shout "learn to swim".
> Survival of the fittest.

Yeah, you're a real treasure.

Ubiquitous

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Mar 28, 2018, 7:03:42 PM3/28/18
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Don't fuck with the squirrels!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_AHCm0urak

Ubiquitous

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Mar 28, 2018, 7:05:34 PM3/28/18
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In article <p9h2u2$8a7$1...@dont-email.me>, dtr...@sonic.net wrote:
>On 3/28/2018 2:30 PM, someone's new sockpuppet wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
Then the time they caused a car crash.

James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 7:24:14 PM3/28/18
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If they can climb up it, they can climb down it. Are you a female car driver? They can't reverse out of something they drove forwards into. Just do what you did before, but the other way round!

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 28, 2018, 7:28:08 PM3/28/18
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:53:30 +0100, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:

> In article <op.zglxq...@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 23:00:01 +0100, A Friend <no...@noway.com> wrote:
>
>> It jumped away from the cherry picker, which proves it can do so. So it
>> would have done when the desire for food was enough.
>
> All it proves is that the cat was more terrified of the cherry picker
> than it was of the height.

And when almost dying of starvation, that would surpass any other fear.

> I once saw a cat hit by a passing car. (I was on the sidewalk.) The
> car stopped and we all looked for the cat. It was gone. The car drove
> off. Then I heard a howling from up a hill on the other side of the
> road. It was the cat, about 20, 25 feet up from the road. The cat had
> gotten that far and no farther. I wrapped her in my shirt, picked her
> up and got her to a vet. Broken pelvis, tail detached at the base, and
> badly burned on her flank by the car's engine block. Nevertheless, she
> got all that way up the hill. The fact that the cherry-picker cat ran
> off after hitting the ground means nothing.

I once ran over a stupid cat that ran straight in front of my car. Stupid thing was flattened and spun like a pancake. Cost me a fucking reg plate.

>> Anyway, if the animal is too stupid to do the reverse of what it did
>> to get up there, it doesn't deserve rescuing. I wouldn't rescue a
>> human if they were drowning, I'd just shout "learn to swim".
>> Survival of the fittest.
>
> Yeah, you're a real treasure.

There is absolutely no excuse for a person not being able to swim. We don't want those people on our planet.

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Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 28, 2018, 8:37:15 PM3/28/18
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Its not a proper cat if it can't do at least one impossible thing. :D

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Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 28, 2018, 8:42:24 PM3/28/18
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Which could easily be after the animal is too weak to make the jump safely.

> Anyway, if the animal is too stupid to do the reverse of what it did to
> get up there, it doesn't deserve rescuing.  I wouldn't rescue a human if
> they were drowning, I'd just shout "learn to swim".  Survival of the
> fittest.
>
That explains a lot about you.

James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 29, 2018, 10:20:42 AM3/29/18
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Then it should have thought of that earlier. Why do you assume cats to have an IQ of 1? They're not stupid, they won't place themselves where there's no food. Shows how little respect you have for other species. Do you think only humans have the ability to think?

>> Anyway, if the animal is too stupid to do the reverse of what it did to
>> get up there, it doesn't deserve rescuing. I wouldn't rescue a human if
>> they were drowning, I'd just shout "learn to swim". Survival of the
>> fittest.
>>
> That explains a lot about you.

It explains I understand the theory of evolution.

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And the fear of starvation was insignificant? Being hungry is a damn strong drive.

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Rhino

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Mar 29, 2018, 11:36:55 AM3/29/18
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Any cats I've had would get quite cantankerous if food didn't show up
promptly EVERY DAY. I would be astounded if that cat wasn't ravenous by
the time it had been up that pole for 3 or 4 days.

> I've found one of
> my own cats in a shed that it stupidly got trapped in from 3-5 days ago
> when I went in to put the mower away, and it wasn't malnourished.
>
I don't know how you're defining "malnourished". Maybe it's bones
weren't visible beneath the skin but I'll bet it gobbled down all the
food it could get as soon as it could.

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 29, 2018, 11:49:10 AM3/29/18
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Then it would have climbed down the way it went up. They're not stupid.

>> I've found one of
>> my own cats in a shed that it stupidly got trapped in from 3-5 days ago
>> when I went in to put the mower away, and it wasn't malnourished.
>>
> I don't know how you're defining "malnourished". Maybe it's bones
> weren't visible beneath the skin but I'll bet it gobbled down all the
> food it could get as soon as it could.

No, it didn't. It just thanked me for letting it out, went in the house and had a lie down. It then ate normally after that (a few hours later).

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Mar 29, 2018, 11:57:57 AM3/29/18
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Forgive the grim comparison but I think it is on point. People who were
in the Twin Towers on 9/11 faced a choice between burning alive and
jumping out of windows; a lot of them jumped. I'm sure NONE of them
wanted to jump but it was the lesser of the two evils for them.


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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 29, 2018, 12:07:04 PM3/29/18
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A cat can jump from a great height and land safely. And the one mentioned above didn't sprain it's leg did it? Anyway, it would have to be pretty stupid to climb up something higher than it can jump.

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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 29, 2018, 12:11:42 PM3/29/18
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If America got on with it and levelled all the Arab countries, there would be no 9/11s.

Funny thing is it's 11/9. The yanks can't do dates properly.

anim8rfsk

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Mar 29, 2018, 12:14:08 PM3/29/18
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In article <p9j2e5$m0t$1...@dont-email.me>,
Gah. I typed "how many people" into Yahoo Search and it auto propagated
"jumped from the twin towers" as well as offering me alternatives like
"on 911" - they're definitely listening to us.

Search says "200"

Snopes has an article written by Barbara "liar liar pants on fire"
Mikkelson about it, and, well, it's bullshit. Being willfully ignorant,
she's never heard of terminal velocity, and says anybody that claims to
have jumped from very high can't possibly have survived. Lying bitch.

HOWEVER

She says there are people that claim to have jumped and survived. But a
couple that were together, he says they jumped from 22, and she says
they jumped from 13, so ...

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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:14:03 +0100, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <p9j2e5$m0t$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Rhino <no_offlin...@example.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-03-28 6:19 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
>> > On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:58:54 +0100, Dimensional Traveler
>> > <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 3/28/2018 2:32 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
>> >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:03:35 +0100, Rhino
>> >>> <no_offlin...@example.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 2018-03-28 4:37 PM, A Friend wrote:
>> >>>>> In article <op.zglqi...@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
>> >>>>> <imv...@somewear.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:56:34 +0100, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In article <p9gmih$h6j$3...@dont-email.me>,
>> >>>>>>> Â Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Gypsy, a black and white cat, had been trapped on top of a power
>> >>>>>>>> pole in Phoenix, Ariz., since Friday when KNXV, an ABC affiliate,
>> >>>>>>>> posted a livestream of her plight Monday morning to Facebook.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> In the hour before a neighbor armed with a ladder rescued Gypsy
>> >>>>>>>> around 11 a.m. local time, half a million people had watched the
>> >>>>>>>> saga and concerned cat-lovers from across the United States had
>> >>>>>>>> flooded 911 dispatchers with more than 100 calls demanding
>> >>>>>>>> authorities save the cat, the Phoenix Fire Department told The
>> >>>>>>>> Arizona Republic. So many people called about Gypsy that the
>> >>>>>>>> dispatching center nearly came to a “screeching halt,†officials
>> >>>>>>>> said.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Capt. Rob McDade told the publication that dispatchers fielded
>> >>>>>>>> calls
>> >>>>>>>> from New Jersey, Ohio and Florida as well as the Phoenix area.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> At one point, someone moderating the KNXV livestream asked viewers
>> >>>>>>>> to stop calling 911 about the cat, according to the Phoenix New
>> >>>>>>>> Times.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> “They appreciate the concern for this cat, but they are kindly
>> >>>>>>>> asking for you to not call 911 in regards to this particular
>> >>>>>>>> situation,†the moderator said. “They are aware of the incident and
>> >>>>>>>> they are doing everything that they can to get this cat down from
>> >>>>>>>> this electricity pole.â€
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> The KNXV livestream on Facebook had 678,000 views, 14,000 likes and
>> >>>>>>>> nearly 10,000 shares – along with 19,600 comments, many suggesting
>> >>>>>>>> possible ways to rescue the cat, though not all were serious.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> “If you flood the city, the water level will be closer to the
>> >>>>>>>> top of
>> >>>>>>>> the (pole),†advised one commenter. Others demanded to know why
>> >>>>>>>> firefighters had not saved the cat.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> “Poor baby. Call the fire department to get him down,†wrote one.
>> >>>>>>>> “OMG... please help the kitty. This is too sad,†posted another.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Phoenix firefighters frequently do respond to calls about rescuing
>> >>>>>>>> animals, but did not respond this time because a utility crew was
>> >>>>>>>> already en route, officials told the Phoenix New Times.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Many livestream comments, however, expressed anger at the TV
>> >>>>>>>> station
>> >>>>>>>> for posting the livestream and at viewers for calling 911.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> “Stop wasting time and money ... I’m sure there is actually
>> >>>>>>>> something important people there could be doing ... this is
>> >>>>>>>> absurd,â€
>> >>>>>>>> wrote one commenter.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> “Hey look a cat stuck up on a pole. We better call the fire
>> >>>>>>>> department to rescue him. Wait I have a better idea, let’s set up a
>> >>>>>>>> live feed of the cat stuck on the pole,†commented another.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> How often do you see the skeleton of a cat stuck in a tree anyway?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Never, they climb down when they're hungry.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Getting up there is far easier than getting down. In trying to climb
>> >>>>> down, cats often fall and are killed or injured. That's why you don't
>> >>>>> see cat skeletons in trees. Fear of falling is why cats stay on
>> >>> You've just disproved your own point. That the cat would jump if it
>> >>> deemed it necessary. It just wasn't hungry enough. I've found one of
>> >>> my own cats in a shed that it stupidly got trapped in from 3-5 days ago
>> >>> when I went in to put the mower away, and it wasn't malnourished.
>> >>>
>> >> One suspects that mice and such are more easily found in a shed than at
>> >> the top of a pole.
>> >>
>> >> Personally I think Rhino's last sentence is correct. If the cat was
>> >> high enough up that a cherry picker was required, it seems reasonable
>> >> that the cat would be afraid of just jumping down.
>> >
>> > Clearly it wasn't, as it did.
>> >
>> Forgive the grim comparison but I think it is on point. People who were
>> in the Twin Towers on 9/11 faced a choice between burning alive and
>> jumping out of windows; a lot of them jumped. I'm sure NONE of them
>> wanted to jump but it was the lesser of the two evils for them.
>
> Gah. I typed "how many people" into Yahoo Search and it auto propagated
> "jumped from the twin towers" as well as offering me alternatives like
> "on 911" - they're definitely listening to us.

Seriously?! I never get any autofill on Google or my browser unless I've personally searched for that before and typed it in full. Where on earth did it get that information from?

> Search says "200"
>
> Snopes has an article written by Barbara "liar liar pants on fire"
> Mikkelson about it, and, well, it's bullshit. Being willfully ignorant,
> she's never heard of terminal velocity, and says anybody that claims to
> have jumped from very high can't possibly have survived. Lying bitch.
>
> HOWEVER
>
> She says there are people that claim to have jumped and survived. But a
> couple that were together, he says they jumped from 22, and she says
> they jumped from 13, so ...

I can believe a couple jumped together and one landed on the other and survived!

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Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 29, 2018, 2:25:25 PM3/29/18
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We don't know if was injured in the landing as it ran away. And no, it
running away is NOT evidence of no injury.

And if, as you say, it "knew" it could jump down safely why would it
worry about whether it could climb down? Or vice versa, if it "knew" it
could climb down, why would it worry about how high up it climbed?

Dimensional Traveler

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Mar 29, 2018, 2:28:42 PM3/29/18
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You obviously don't know how the first NYC firefighter died at Ground Zero.

James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 29, 2018, 2:34:16 PM3/29/18
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Limping is evidence. Did it limp? I've seen one of my cats with an injury, it doesn't run right at all, neither do people.

> And if, as you say, it "knew" it could jump down safely why would it
> worry about whether it could climb down?

How do you know it worried about climbing down? Maybe it didn't want to come down?

> Or vice versa, if it "knew" it
> could climb down, why would it worry about how high up it climbed?

It probably didn't. only the silly humans at the bottom worried. If the cat was worried about anything it was probably the 24 hour vigil set up by the silly humans underneath. If they'd have left it in peace....

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Mar 29, 2018, 2:35:27 PM3/29/18
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Why would I? It happened in another country. I assume Ground Zero is some other name for 9/11? I thought Ground Zero was the name for where an atomic bomb goes off.

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Rhino

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Mar 29, 2018, 2:38:52 PM3/29/18
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And yet it was still up there 3 or 4 days later....

>  They're not stupid.
>
No they're not. But we don't fully understand what motivates them. I
think we overestimate what we think we know but we don't bother to do
scientific study often to confirm what we think we know so we remain
ignorant.

>>> I've found one of
>>> my own cats in a shed that it stupidly got trapped in from 3-5 days ago
>>> when I went in to put the mower away, and it wasn't malnourished.
>>>
>> I don't know how you're defining "malnourished". Maybe it's bones
>> weren't visible beneath the skin but I'll bet it gobbled down all the
>> food it could get as soon as it could.
>
> No, it didn't.  It just thanked me for letting it out, went in the house
> and had a lie down.  It then ate normally after that (a few hours later).
>


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James Wilkinson Sword

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Mar 29, 2018, 3:26:32 PM3/29/18
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Because it didn't need to come down, or the crowds of people were scaring it.

>> They're not stupid.
>>
> No they're not. But we don't fully understand what motivates them. I
> think we overestimate what we think we know but we don't bother to do
> scientific study often to confirm what we think we know so we remain
> ignorant.

If it stays up there instead of coming down for food, it's stupid, end of story.

>>>> I've found one of
>>>> my own cats in a shed that it stupidly got trapped in from 3-5 days ago
>>>> when I went in to put the mower away, and it wasn't malnourished.
>>>>
>>> I don't know how you're defining "malnourished". Maybe it's bones
>>> weren't visible beneath the skin but I'll bet it gobbled down all the
>>> food it could get as soon as it could.
>>
>> No, it didn't. It just thanked me for letting it out, went in the house
>> and had a lie down. It then ate normally after that (a few hours later).

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Shoplifters will be beaten over the head with an organic carrot.
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