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Pat

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Mar 19, 2005, 1:00:37 PM3/19/05
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Please help save two cats from needless harm.

My neighbor has two lazy housecats. There is a mouse in her house and she is
setting traps. The kind of mousetrap you bait with cheese or peanut butter
and when the mouse goes for the bait a piece of metal snaps down and breaks
the mouse's spine.

She insists that such a trap if sprung by a cat's paw would do no harm to
the cat's paw.

I believe she is wrong. Although I would never use such a trap in the first
place, even if I would consider using one I certainly would not leave it
where a cat might accidentally get a paw caught in it.

What I need is testimonials -- not opinions, but actual stories of injuries
to cats who've encountered such mousetraps and been hurt by them. I will
show those to my neighbor and hope she at least decides to put the
mousetraps out of reach of her kitties.

Time is of the essence!

Thank you.


Nan

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Mar 19, 2005, 3:23:15 PM3/19/05
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You might suggest that she stick her finger in the trap to see if it
hurts.

David G Fisher

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Mar 19, 2005, 6:34:16 PM3/19/05
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"Pat" <spam.me.n...@fidnet.com> wrote in message
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Friend worked for a vet for 13 years and told me that cats were brought in
many times with broken toes due to those stupid traps. As another poster
said, tell her to stick her finger in one and see what happens. Then tell
her to get a humane trap where she can simply release the mice out in some
woods away from homes.

Dave


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David G Fisher

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Mar 19, 2005, 8:24:05 PM3/19/05
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"Never anonymous Bud" <new...@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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> Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Pat" <spam.me.n...@fidnet.com>
scribed:

>
> >She insists that such a trap if sprung by a cat's paw would do no harm to
> >the cat's paw.
>
> She IS wrong.
>
> She should get the 'glue' traps instead.

How about I glue your head to the road and then stomp on it a few times?

Dave


Mike Rhino

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Mar 20, 2005, 2:13:57 AM3/20/05
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"David G Fisher" <dav...@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> Friend worked for a vet for 13 years and told me that cats were brought in
> many times with broken toes due to those stupid traps. As another poster
> said, tell her to stick her finger in one and see what happens. Then tell
> her to get a humane trap where she can simply release the mice out in some
> woods away from homes.

How far from houses do they need to be? Can city mice survive in the forest
or desert? What about the gas shortage? It sounds like you'd need to keep
the mice as pets until you were ready to release them. Mice are not on the
approved list of pets at my apartment complex. If a forest has enough food
for 10000 mice and it currently has 10000 mice in it, what happens if you
add mice? In the end some mice are going to die and there is nothing you
can do about it. If mice live in the forest now and they are happy living
there, I would leave them alone. I would harass them by driving in and
dumping a bunch of city mice.


White Monkey

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Mar 20, 2005, 12:08:16 PM3/20/05
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"Never anonymous Bud" <new...@katxyzkave.net> wrote in message
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> Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Pat" <spam.me.n...@fidnet.com>
scribed:
>
> >She insists that such a trap if sprung by a cat's paw would do no harm to
> >the cat's paw.
>
> She IS wrong.
>
> She should get the 'glue' traps instead.


Those are caustic and cause the mice terrible pain. I can't imagine they'd
be better for a cat! I had to use them once when I moved into a new
apartment building infested with mice. I won't use poison, and the smaller
mice were too small for the snap-traps (kept finding half tails) and they
were avoiding all models of catch-alive traps. The stuff on the glue traps
is so nasty, I only left them out when I was home, and as soon as I heard a
mouse start shrieking because it was on one, I'd rush over and kill it
quickly. Nasty, harrowing time I never wish to repeat.
--Katrina


I'm bAck wIth my Fav4ite Midis

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Mar 20, 2005, 12:44:18 PM3/20/05
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Re: Urgent info needed!

Group: rec.pets.cats Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 12:06am (EST+5) From:
new...@katxyzkave.net (Never anonymous Bud)
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Pat"
<spam.me.n...@fidnet.com> scribed:
She insists that such a trap if sprung by a cat's paw would do no harm
to the cat's paw.
She IS wrong.
She should get the 'glue' traps instead.
--
                  The truth is out
there,
but it's not interesting enough for most people.


I'm not crazy about mice. Especially if they come in my apartment. I
have 5 cats & when they see one they end up I guess to themselves
playing with it which at the end kills them but the never ate them. If
you have cats then those spring type mice traps unless it's where your
cats can't get to it isn't a god idea. Putting mice or rat poisoning
isn't a good idea either because if your cat does kill & eat the mice
they catch then they can die too. The glue traps are cruel. Who is going
to unstick the mouse from that kind of trap? Isnt there a trap thtat
when a mouse goe in it.Some how it gets killed & you don't have to see
it? I know there is.Just don't know the name of it

David G Fisher

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Mar 20, 2005, 5:11:38 PM3/20/05
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"I'm bAck wIth my Fav4iteMidis" <Ahh_YEs_HaPPyTr...@webtv.net>
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Re: Urgent info needed!

Group: rec.pets.cats Date: Sun, Mar 20, 2005, 12:06am (EST+5) From:
new...@katxyzkave.net (Never anonymous Bud)
Using a finger dipped in purple ink, "Pat"
<spam.me.n...@fidnet.com> scribed:
She insists that such a trap if sprung by a cat's paw would do no harm
to the cat's paw.
She IS wrong.
She should get the 'glue' traps instead.
--
The truth is out
there,
but it's not interesting enough for most people.


I'm not crazy about mice. Especially if they come in my apartment. I
have 5 cats & when they see one they end up I guess to themselves
playing with it which at the end kills them but the never ate them. If
you have cats then those spring type mice traps unless it's where your
cats can't get to it isn't a god idea. Putting mice or rat poisoning
isn't a good idea either because if your cat does kill & eat the mice
they catch then they can die too. The glue traps are cruel.


>Who is going
>to unstick the mouse from that kind of trap?

You can't get the mouse way from the glue. It's impossible. That's why it's
a gruesome trap that only a**holes use.

Dave

David G Fisher

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Mar 23, 2005, 8:46:15 AM3/23/05
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"bjdbrad" <bjd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I hate to be so blunt folks but ITS A FRICKIN MOUSE and some of you
> think its cute when your cats play little games with them letting them
> think they will escape and then sinking thier claws into them and
> pulling them back into the ring........talk about humane........let
> your cats scare them half to death before giving them the kiss of
> death. Its not Mickey or Minny........its just a dirty
> mouse..........god put them on this earth for us to snap their legs
> off......if you give me your address I will send you the maimed ones
> and you can pay the vet to put prostethics on them for about 800
> dollars per leg.
>
> OK OK tongue in cheek but it is only a mouse........
>
> Brad

You're just another human animal. Nothing special at all. A frail,
destructive, and self-destructive species who's time on this planet will be
a small fraction of the dinasour. Basically, one f**ked up species.

You're response is emotional, irrational, and typical of a human animal that
doesn't want to take responsibility for it's intentionally abusive and
destructive actions.

Dave

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