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Preston Crawford

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Dec 2, 2001, 3:24:40 PM12/2/01
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Our cats ( a little over a year and a half old) are staring to get really
long whiskers. We're new at this so not sure what to do. Can you trim these
or do they just eventually break off or what?

Preston

Shena Delian O'Brien

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Dec 2, 2001, 3:41:40 PM12/2/01
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You should not trim your cat's whiskers. They are an integral part of
their physical sense of "self" and since whiskers are not really hairs,
but extensions of skin, cutting them is actually creating a wound that
can let infection in. Hairs are dead, and whiskers are alive.

Whiskers will grow to a certain point (long whiskers are quite
attractive actually) and not grow any longer ... when necessary they
will fall off and regrow, etc.. They require no maintenance from you :)

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Preston Crawford

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"Shena Delian O'Brien" <shen...@forget-it.com> wrote in message
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> Whiskers will grow to a certain point (long whiskers are quite
> attractive actually) and not grow any longer ... when necessary they
> will fall off and regrow, etc.. They require no maintenance from you :)

Cool. Just making sure. I actually love the way they look. I just didn't
know if we were doing something wrong by leaving them.

Preston

Jill McQuown

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Leave them alone!

Jill

Cat

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Dec 2, 2001, 8:41:23 PM12/2/01
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NO! Do not trim their whiskers. Cats need their whiskers, not only are
they important for detection, they may directly affect the cats balance if
snipped off. Why would you want to trim them anyway? It's not like
they're in your way.

Whiskers are permanent (although sometimes they fall out and then regrow)
and should be left alone.

Kelly

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Cat

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"Shena Delian O'Brien" <shen...@forget-it.com> wrote in message
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> Preston Crawford wrote:
> >
> > Our cats ( a little over a year and a half old) are staring to get
really
> > long whiskers. We're new at this so not sure what to do. Can you trim
these
> > or do they just eventually break off or what?
>
> You should not trim your cat's whiskers. They are an integral part of
> their physical sense of "self" and since whiskers are not really hairs,
> but extensions of skin, cutting them is actually creating a wound that
> can let infection in. Hairs are dead, and whiskers are alive.

No they are not extensions of the skin, and ARE a type of hair. Although
they do have a nerves and a blood supply (making them "alive" so to speak, I
guess), they are not extensions of the skin. And I seriously doubt that the
risk of infection is higher with trimmed whiskers. Regardless, the
whiskers should never be trimmed.

Check out:

http://www.petplanet.com/ppc/_AALA4Hf96642/ContentSystem/article.html?CSID=6
809

Kelly

Cathy Friedmann

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Dec 2, 2001, 8:54:25 PM12/2/01
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Maybe he thought they might possibly just keep on growing - like a person's
head hair - Vs. being self-limiting?? He said he's new to cats.

Cathy

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Karen

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Dec 2, 2001, 9:11:21 PM12/2/01
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in article c6wO7.2320$R84.776@rwcrnsc52, Preston Crawford at
prestoncREM...@crawfordsolutions.com wrote on 12/2/01 2:24 PM:

No, whiskers are whiskers. Some fall out and grow back. Don't touch a cats
whiskers. They're there for a reason.

karen

Cat Protector

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Dec 3, 2001, 12:52:59 AM12/3/01
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Do not cut or trim your cat's whiskers. They are a very important part of
your cat for sensory reasons. Whiskers do shed but they are not for cutting.
Leave them alone.

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Leona Henderson

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I always thought of the cat's whiskers as sort of like the
feelers that some folks put on the fender of their car to
keep from getting too close to a curb. : )
Ms Kitty is all black with black whiskers and a friend has a
black cat with white whiskers. I think they are also an
attractive part of a cat.
Lee

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"Preston Crawford" <prestoncREM...@crawfordsolutions.com> wrote in
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Interesting to note all the differing opinions with regard to whiskers.
Also, that nobody seems to have mentioned what mothers do to their kittens
very often soon after birth. In many cases, the mother will actually
deliberately bite off the ends of the kittens' whiskers to shorten them,
which deters the kittens from straying away from the nest. I'm sure this
demonstrates that their must be very little chance of infection, but never
the less, they should be left alone by us once they start to grow on their
own. Did you also know that in Rex cats, the whiskers are very brittle and
tend to snap off very short all the time?

Martin


Karen

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Dec 3, 2001, 7:45:01 AM12/3/01
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in article 3C0AF23C...@alphalink.com.au, Graham at
zeb...@alphalink.com.au wrote on 12/2/01 9:32 PM:

> Karen wrote:
>> No, whiskers are whiskers. Some fall out and grow back. Don't touch a cats
>> whiskers. They're there for a reason.
>

> Just like their reproductive organs and their cla ahh no, lets leave
> that can of worms alone.
>

LOL!!!!!! Yes please.

Karen

Karen

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in article 3C0AF1DB...@alphalink.com.au, Graham at
zeb...@alphalink.com.au wrote on 12/2/01 9:30 PM:

>> Preston Crawford wrote:
>>> Our cats ( a little over a year and a half old) are staring to get really
>>> long whiskers. We're new at this so not sure what to do. Can you trim these
>>> or do they just eventually break off or what?
>

> Mr Crawford, must you troll cat groups?
>
> You might bump into someone who knows you.....

I do think he was just wondering. It's just not ghoulish enough to be
trolling. He is a new cat person. I tell ya' I've been asked some very
interesting questions by people who never had cats.

Karen

Cat

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In many cases, the mother will actually
> deliberately bite off the ends of the kittens' whiskers to shorten them,
> which deters the kittens from straying away from the nest.

Not sure who told you that but that is completely false. Mother cats do not
bite off their kittens whiskers.

Kelly

mal =^¸¸^= chat

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Dec 3, 2001, 12:12:58 PM12/3/01
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I have understood that a cat uses it's whiskers for size detection of
space and surroundings. Par example: A cat could crawl into an open
water spout and get stuck without it's whiskers saying "this is too
small for your body". My Maine Coon's whiskers are 50% of her glamour,
longest whiskers I have ever seen!!!!

Cat Protector

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Dec 3, 2001, 4:16:30 PM12/3/01
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Yeah that one sounded very fishy to me as well.

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Cat Protector

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Well the cat's whiskers are a part of it's sensory system and it is partly
for that.

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Beth

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from www.moggies.co.uk:
"A cat has about twenty-four movable whiskers, twelve on each side of its
nose (some cat's may have more). Whiskers are more than twice as thick as
ordinary hairs, and their roots are set three times deeper than hairs in a
cat's tissue. Richly supplied with nerve endings, whiskers give cats
extraordinarily detailed information about air movements, air pressure and
anything they touch.

"The scientific word for whiskers is vibrissae, a name that suggests their
exquisite sensitivity to vibrations in air currents. As air swirls and
eddies around objects, whiskers vibrate too. Cats use messages in these
vibrations to sense the presence, size, and shape of obstacles without
seeing or touching them. Whiskers are also good hunting tools. A cat whose
whiskers have been damaged may bite the wrong part of a mouse it's
attacking, indicating that signals from these delicate structures provide
cats with vital information about the shape and activity of its prey -
interestingly, whiskers also help cats smell odours.

"Whiskers can also be a bother to a cat, especially if he tries to eat food
out of a bowl. The end of the whiskers touching the side of the bowl
transfer irritating sensations to his brain, making it hard for him to
continue eating.

Whiskers are extremely sensitive as they are closely connected to the
nervous system. Any damage to his whiskers will cause your cat discomfort,
and he may become confused or disoriented. DON'T ever trim his whiskers, and
DON'T ever wash them, he will keep them clean himself."

And no, Kelly, they aren't used for balance.

Cat Protector

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BTW, has anyone ever watched Animal Precinct? There was a guy they arrested
(and I am glad they did) who intentionally burned his cat's whiskers I think
to punish it. Then when they explained to him that it was felony in the
state of New York the guy shrugged it off like it was no big deal. I felt
bad for the cat and I hope they burn the guy who did it.

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Kathryn Stein

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On Tue, 04 Dec 2001 00:45:50 GMT, "Cat Protector"
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>BTW, has anyone ever watched Animal Precinct? There was a guy they arrested
>(and I am glad they did) who intentionally burned his cat's whiskers I think
>to punish it. Then when they explained to him that it was felony in the
>state of New York the guy shrugged it off like it was no big deal. I felt
>bad for the cat and I hope they burn the guy who did it.


I saw that episode and like you, I hope they hold HIS face to the
fire. I'm continually disgusted by the lowlife I see on that program
and their treatment of animals.

Cat Protector

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All I can say is that I am glad the ASPCA has the authority to go in there
and not only help the animals but to also arrest the people responsible for
these deplorable and heinous acts of cruelty. Thanks ASPCA.

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cadilla...@mediaone.net

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In article <gteo0usjdfehj8um3...@4ax.com>, Kathryn Stein
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I watch that program sometimes too, but often wish I hadn't. It makes
me so furious that people who are cruel to animals aren't treated more
harshly and are given so many "second chances." A few weeks ago, a cat
hoarder was profiled. She had something like 40 cats in a small, filthy
apartment. Evidently she had a problem affording vet care and proper
food, and she neglected to keep the litter boxes fresh--yet the
investigators gave the old hag three tries to improve the conditions
and decrease the number of cats. She didn't think she had much of
problem. I'm sure the investigators must have known that the recidivism
rate for hoarders is 98%, so why didn't they take the cats away from
her on the first visit? Perhaps I missed some crucial bit of
information here.

On the same program, neighbors reported a man for keeping too many
rabbits in inhumane conditions, and one neighbor complained of hearing
rabbits scream. The man who was keeping the rabbits was Asian and
didn't speak English, but through a relative who served as an
interpreter, he gave all sorts of bogus reasons why the rabbits were
screaming and why he had so many rabbits. He too was given second and
third chances. On the investigators' last visit, he had fewer rabbits;
the investigators wondered out loud where they were, but didn't pursue
finding the rabbits' whereabouts. (My guess is they were dinner.)

I think the program does a service in that it provides public
education, but I don't think the SPCA is vigorous enough in it's
mission to halt cruelty to animals.

Shena Delian O'Brien

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cadilla...@mediaone.net wrote:
>
> third chances. On the investigators' last visit, he had fewer rabbits;
> the investigators wondered out loud where they were, but didn't pursue
> finding the rabbits' whereabouts. (My guess is they were dinner.)

While I completely disagree with keeping rabbits in inhumane conditions,
and even have had a rabbit as a pet before, It is of course completely
acceptable in the United States to eat rabbit and to raise them for that
purpose.

Gin

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Cadillac woman, I have heard rabbits scream for that very reason. It is not
pleasant at all. But if we are meat eaters, we must accept the fact that
something had to die for us. Of course there's no excuse for keeping any
animals in inhumane conditions. I find it very sad to read about old
ladies(usually) who have far too many cats or dogs, and can't properly feed
or care for them, and the animals suffer as a consequence. I'm sure their
original intentions are good- they obviously love the animals, but it seems
to go way out of control, due to poverty and ignorance. Gin


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Cat Protector

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Well here is the deal. They said on the show that in New York their is no
law on the number of cats a person can have and if the person is willing to
improve conditions there is very little the ASPCA can do but give the person
a chance to improve conditions. But from what I have seen on that show the
ASPCA seems to have a difficult task in an area such as New York. I think I
may have seen that episode and the woman in question had 15 cats in her
apartment and she at first didn't make such a great effort to improve
conditions and the ASPCA let her know that. The woman became very hostile
especially in the threat of her knowing the ASPCA was going to seize her
cats. Her rational was that if she gave up the cats that the ASPCA would
kill them. Nonetheless, the ASPCA did go back to her apartment and she did
in their eyes make an effort to clean the place up. As a result the ASPCA
seized only two of the cats. I agree it should have been more but what else
can you do?

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cadilla...@mediaone.net

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Thanks, I missed the part about "no limits" on number of cats. I think
it's a law that they need to change, and they should have tighter
controls for what constitutes animal abuse. Boy, her apartment was a
real pig sty.


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Cat Protector

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I agree. But it is pretty tough on the ASPCA to get everyone. I am sure they
at least do their best.

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Fruklass

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DON'T trim the whiskers. The cat needs its whiskers to tell if it can get
through a narrow space. It would be something like trimming off a person's
fingers because they're getting too long.

Barb

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Ok... so after reading all of your postings.... i will summarize

Do not cut the whiskers. Leave them alone. You will go to jail.


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val189

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I love my cat's long whiskers - you'll find plenty as they drop off -
Val

Maggie's Mom

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Dec 20, 2001, 3:24:25 PM12/20/01
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You may want to consult that with your vet, but cat's whiskers help the cat
to move around. They're very important, and should not be trimmed.

:o) Maggie's Mom
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Marcus Fox

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You should NEVER EVER trim a cat's whiskers. Cats use these to determine
whether or not a space is large enough for them to squeeze through. If they
cannot do this then they may try to squeeze through too small a space
(drainage pipes on building sites, etc) and may become trapped.

Marcus

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Bob Brenchley.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 00:22:16 -0000, "Marcus Fox"
<marc...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Maggie's Mom <enig...@tr0lltracker1.mailshell.com> wrote in message
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>> You may want to consult that with your vet, but cat's whiskers help the
>cat
>> to move around. They're very important, and should not be trimmed.
>>
>> :o) Maggie's Mom
>> `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> "val189" <gweh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>> > I love my cat's long whiskers - you'll find plenty as they drop off -
>> > Val
>> >
>> > Preston Crawford wrote:
>> >
>> > > Our cats ( a little over a year and a half old) are staring to get
>> really
>> > > long whiskers. We're new at this so not sure what to do. Can you trim
>> these
>> > > or do they just eventually break off or what?
>> > >
>> > > Preston

Moronic posting style corrected. You have not been charged for this
service but I reserve the right to charge in the future if you make
the same mistake again.

>You should NEVER EVER trim a cat's whiskers. Cats use these to determine
>whether or not a space is large enough for them to squeeze through. If they
>cannot do this then they may try to squeeze through too small a space
>(drainage pipes on building sites, etc) and may become trapped.
>
>Marcus
>

Not true Marcus, cats do use their whiskers as important sense organs,
but they don't use them to judge a space in the way you describe. That
is just one of the old cat myths.

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Cat Protector

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I have to wonder how you get your information Bob? Your hypothisis is
totally inacurate. That is partly what whiskers are for and it is not a
myth. Whiskers not only help the cat detect subtle motions and vibrations
but also helps the cat detect how narrow a space is in the dark.

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> I have to wonder how you get your information Bob? Your hypothisis is
> totally inacurate. That is partly what whiskers are for and it is not a
> myth. Whiskers not only help the cat detect subtle motions and vibrations
> but also helps the cat detect how narrow a space is in the dark.
>
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Bob's a know_it_all prick. When he's not threatening people he's spouting
off at the mouth about things he hasn't a clue about. I can't stand
assholes like that.

Ignore the fuckwit and he'll go away...eventually.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:42:20 GMT, "Cat Protector"
<catpro...@home.com> wrote:

>I have to wonder how you get your information Bob? Your hypothisis is
>totally inacurate. That is partly what whiskers are for and it is not a
>myth. Whiskers not only help the cat detect subtle motions and vibrations
>but also helps the cat detect how narrow a space is in the dark.

But they are NOT used to judge whether a hole is big enough (or not)
to get the cats body through - that is a myth.

Marcus Fox

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Bob Brenchley. <B...@format.publications.ukf.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:42:20 GMT, "Cat Protector"
> <catpro...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >I have to wonder how you get your information Bob? Your hypothisis is
> >totally inacurate. That is partly what whiskers are for and it is not a
> >myth. Whiskers not only help the cat detect subtle motions and vibrations
> >but also helps the cat detect how narrow a space is in the dark.
>
> But they are NOT used to judge whether a hole is big enough (or not)
> to get the cats body through - that is a myth.

Sez you. http://www.petplace.com/Articles/artShow.asp?artID=3816 (paragraph
6)

I purposely chose a site like this because it is a professional site and the
people here are more likely to know what they are talking about. I have seen
this on dozens of other webpages all stating the same thing.

Marcus

Bob Brenchley.

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 19:46:29 -0000, "Marcus Fox"
<marc...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
>Bob Brenchley. <B...@format.publications.ukf.net> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:42:20 GMT, "Cat Protector"
>> <catpro...@home.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I have to wonder how you get your information Bob? Your hypothisis is
>> >totally inacurate. That is partly what whiskers are for and it is not a
>> >myth. Whiskers not only help the cat detect subtle motions and vibrations
>> >but also helps the cat detect how narrow a space is in the dark.
>>
>> But they are NOT used to judge whether a hole is big enough (or not)
>> to get the cats body through - that is a myth.
>
>Sez you. http://www.petplace.com/Articles/artShow.asp?artID=3816 (paragraph
>6)
>
>I purposely chose a site like this because it is a professional site and the
>people here are more likely to know what they are talking about. I have seen
>this on dozens of other webpages all stating the same thing.
>
>Marcus

You can have a wide cat with short whiskers and a thin cat with very
long whiskers. They are very delicate sense organs, but it is a myth
that cats use the to decide whether a hole is big enough to go through
or not.

HTH.

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Cat Protector

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Mr. knowitall is at it again folks. Bob get off the newgroup!!!

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"Bob Brenchley." <B...@format.publications.ukf.net> wrote in message

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Jennifer

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On Sat, 22 Dec 2001 06:47:45 GMT, "Cat Protector"
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>Mr. knowitall is at it again folks. Bob get off the newgroup!!!
>

Which newsgroup? If you tried trimming the groups you might get the
result you want.

Jen
- no, I haven't trimmed either because I don't know which group you
are posting from.

Cat Protector

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Well any of the cats newsgroups.

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Laura A. Robinson

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circa Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:11:38 +0000, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Bob Brenchley. (B...@format.publications.ukf.net) said,

>
> You can have a wide cat with short whiskers and a thin cat with very
> long whiskers. They are very delicate sense organs, but it is a myth
> that cats use the to decide whether a hole is big enough to go through
> or not.
>
The web site does mention that whisker length is genetically
determined and that if a cat gains weight, it will lose the ability
to "feel" openings accurately with its whiskers.

Laura
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