Do animals have souls?
GuiltyBystander9
souls?
If you believe that humans enjoy an afterlife, do you also believe that animals
do as well?
CatProtectionSoc
>If you believe that humans enjoy an afterlife, do you also believe that
>animals
>do as well?
It must be or how else would all of those lions be laying next to lambs up
there in heaven as it says so prominently in the Bible?
And, don't forget, lions are cats. If cats are "evil", as so many people
believe, what are they doing in heaven?
CPS.
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>If you believe that humans have souls, do you also believe that animals have
>souls?
Yes animals do have soulds....on the bottom of their
feet.....
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Interesting. If Animals don't have souls, what do you think happens to them after death? Not the same thing that happens to humans? Why are humans so special as to have souls? Do you consider humans more valuable than animals? When do you presume to make this designation?
Corinne
In a word,
Yes.
Next question?
Corinne
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GuiltyBystander9
>Yes.
>
>Next question?
>
Is that just a feeling, or have you thought about it and come to some
conclusions based on---what?
Antique
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Ron
Yes, and if animals do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior,
then they go straight to Hell where all the bad-tempered human souls do
unspeakable and shocking things to them all day and all night forever and
ever. Amen.
Ron
>
> Interesting. If Animals don't have souls, what do you think happens to them after death?
They decay. Well, some of them are eaten, but the leftovers decay.
> Not the same thing that happens to humans?
Yes, humans decay also.
> Why are humans so special as to have souls?
Who says they do? Who besides religious nutcases, I mean?
Ron
She made it up, because she has a pipe dream of being reunited in Heaven
with all the darling little pets that she has lost over the years.
GuiltyBystander9
>Yes.
Why the terse answer?
Fat Freddy
If your definition of soul comes from within a particular dogma or
doctrine, the answer would also have to come from that dogma or
doctrine.
If your definition of "soul" is more universal and recognizes the
infinite spiritual essence shared by all living beings, the answer has
to be yes.
NY WRITER
>If you believe that humans have souls, do >you also believe that animals have
>souls? If you believe that humans enjoy >an afterlife, do you also believe
that >animals do as well?
Absolutely, was there ever any doubt? Animals are god's creatures.
GuiltyBystander9
All true.
If anyone's interested, this is some of the stuff I have turned up in trying to
answer my own question. It seems most major religions ignore the question or
deny souls to animals while admitting them for humans. But I have found what
would seem to be significant exceptions.
In Genesis, which I suppose applies to both Jews and Christians, in 1:30, in
English it says that God gave "life" to animals. But the Hebrew words used are
"nephesh chay," which in 2:7 is said to mean "living soul" when it comes to the
creation of humans. The same phrase is used again concerning animals in Job
12:10. Genesis passages where "nephesh" is translated as "creature" in
reference to animals are 1:21 and 24, 2:19, 9:10, 12, 15 and 16, while the term
is rendered "soul" when applied to people. In Numbers 31:28, however, the King
James version of the Bible renders "nephesh" as "soul" applying the term to
both people and animals.
Numbers 16:22 and 27:16 use the Hebrew word "ruwach," translated as "spirits"
in referring to "the God of the spirits of all flesh." Ecclesiastes 3:21 uses
"ruwach" to suggest that whatever happens to beasts at the time of death is
also the fate of humankind (see verse 19). Although the KJV uses "breath" in
v. 19 and "spirit" in v. 21, the Hebrew uses "ruwach" in both cases.
Ecclesiastes 3:21 also uses "ruwach" for both human and animal as it asks: "Who
knows whether the spirit of the sons of men goes upward and whether the spirit
of the animal goes downward to the earth?"
Hebrew "neshamah," which can be defined as "spirit" and is rendered in English
as "breath of life," is used in Genesis 7:22, referring to both the people and
animals that died in the flood.
There are some ambiguous references in the New Testament, Romans 8:19-23, for
example, and Revelation 16:3. But basically, as far as I can tell, the Bible
doesn't really address the issue.
However, John Wesley, founder of Methodism, wrote, "Something better remains
after death for these poor creatures. As a recompense for what they have
suffered they shall enjoy happiness without alloy, without interruption and
without end. For the Father of All has a tender regard for even his lowest
creatures and will make them large amends for all they suffer."
Pope John Paul II said flat out "the animals possess a soul," and "animals are
as near to God as men are."
Mary Baker Eddy, founder of Christian Science, said, "God is Life, or
intelligence, which forms and preserves the individual identity of animals as
well as of men."
For Mormons, Joseph Fielding Smith, at the time 10th Prophet of the church,
wrote that, "The Lord intends to save not only the earth and the heavens, not
only man who dwells upon the earth, but all things which he has created. The
animals, the fishes of the sea, the fowls of the air, as well as man, are to be
resurrected, or renewed through the resurrection, for they too are living
souls."
Justin Martyr, from whom we get the term "martyr," when asked if animals had
souls just as humans do, replied, "The same souls are in us all."
For Hare Krishna, Srila Prabhupada, the founder, believed animals had souls
equal to those of humans and responded to the question, "How do you know that
the animal has a soul?" by noting that animals and humans pursue the same
activities, including eating, sleeping, having sex, bearing children, having a
living place, and defending themselves. If either human or animal are cut,
they bleed. "Now, why do you deny this one similarity, the presence of a soul?
That is not logical."
That's what I have so far. I was hoping to get some leads from usenet, but, as
I should have learned by now, such is a vain notion.
David G Fisher
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GuiltyBystander9
>Humans *are* animals.
Quite true, of course. I was merely using the conventional categories.
A couple of more bits added to my search for answers to the question:
Apparently, Presbyterians have no doctrine regarding animal souls.
An enquiry to the Salvation Army resulted in a horrified response that it was a
sin to even think animals might have souls.
I seem to recall that Charles Darwin had something to say about animal souls.
I thought it was in "The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals" but a
quick check of the index turned up nothing.
I think Albert Schweitzer, who was both a scientist and theologian, had
something to say about it. Will keep looking.
bluskie
ROTFLMAO STRANGE LITTLE PSYCHOS XIANS ARE.
Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
Begs the question. How come jesus' parents didn't give him a puppy?
Fat Freddy
> a sin to even think animals might have souls.
I guess that explains why I have never seen a drunken cat waiting in
line at a Salvation Army wino center.
Ronald
Maybe they did. Ever notice how the Bible just sort of fast-forwards
over most of Jesus' childhood? It's no wonder why: Think of what the
average little boy does to insects and small animals. Now imagine a
little boy with the full power of The Lord alone with a puppy. I'll bet
he did all sorts of terrible things to small animals that historians were
loathe to write about. There probably deformed cats and demon-possessed
frogs all over the place.
Devil Dawg
Little bugger kept killing his pets to see if they'd rise from the dead.
Luha
I have a recurring nightmare that I'm walking through a garden and happen
upon a crucified ant, the a crucified slug, etc. Each species must accept
their crucified species-savior or be damned to that version of species-hell.
How the hell do you crucify a snake?
Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
Imagine the dent in the local songbird population if he had a pellet gun.
Sure, he was the prince of peace... when people were looking.
Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
Or a centipede?
The Cat Guy
>
>Or a centipede?
Most excellent point. :)
Mark
The Catman
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Ronald
The same way you'd crucify a slug, I guess. How was *that* done in the
dream?
Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
>
> Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA wrote:
> > Luha wrote:
> > >
> > > "Ron" <sa...@dune.city> wrote in message
> > > news:MPG.17c95701f...@news.alt.net.
> > > > > If you believe that humans have souls, do you also believe that animals
> > > have
> > > > > souls?
> > > > > If you believe that humans enjoy an afterlife, do you also believe that
> > > animals
> > > > > do as well?
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and if animals do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior,
> > > > then they go straight to Hell where all the bad-tempered human souls do
> > > > unspeakable and shocking things to them all day and all night forever and
> > > > ever. Amen.
> > >
> > > I have a recurring nightmare that I'm walking through a garden and happen
> > > upon a crucified ant, the a crucified slug, etc. Each species must accept
> > > their crucified species-savior or be damned to that version of species-hell.
> > > How the hell do you crucify a snake?
> >
> > Or a centipede?
>
> The same way you'd crucify a slug, I guess. How was *that* done in the
> dream?
So you can also kill jesus by sprinking salt on him?
Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
>
> "Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA" wrote:
>
>
>
> Mainly the stories are to highlight specific lessons to be taught, or to bolster the
> claim that he was the Messiah, and specific anecdotes match specific prophesies.
> As to why he didn't have a pet when he was in his thirties?
Or a girlfriend.
> Well,
> 1. He would be doing a lot of traveling, and wouldn't have time to properly take care
> of a pet.
In which case, he could get a kitten.
> 2. Knowing he would die at some point in his ministry, it would be a bad idea to begin
> pet ownership, knowing that he would need to designate someone to look after them. But
> then, he did do that, he told Peter, "Feed my sheep."
Easily cared for pets that would fit the lifestyle of a fanatic martyr:
Syrian hamster. Maximum life expectancy, 6 years.
Goldfish. 6 months.
Cricket. 6 weeks.
GuiltyBystander9
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>On the off chance you are asking this seriously.
Yes, serious questions, and I thank you for your complete answer. Most of the
thread has been the usual juvenile garbage that makes most of Usenet a total
waste of time, so I don't blame you for being suspicious.
>Yes, I believe that animals have souls. I believe that animals are far more
>intelligent than many people give them credit for
Two separate subjects, of course. The first being a matter of, AFAIK,
unprovable belief, the other testable, although the testing methodology can be
questioned--a lot of it, in my view, is too anthropocentric. For example,
self-recognition using a mirror. Cats don't seem to recognize their own
reflection in a mirror, therefore they lack self-awareness. However, this does
not take into account smell, hugely important to cats (and other animals) in
establishing identities. Yet because it is of little importance to humans, we
don't factor it into such tests.
> because their intelligence
>involves some things that society does not consider useful information.
Quite true. A cat is very good at being a cat. A dog is very good at being a
dog. And a human is very good at being a human. Obvious, but we tend to
assume other animals are merely furry human beings and believe them stupid if
they don't act like humans.
As Stephen Budiansky of "Nature" has written, "It's a commonplace to speak of a
dog that thinks it is human, but a better statement is that the dog thinks
we're dogs. Funny looking dogs, to be sure, and dogs that refuse to engage in
the full array of normal dog behavior, but dogs that are enough like dogs to
get along with under the working assumption that they are dogs. Our dogs sniff
us as they sniff other dogs, bow to us with outstretched front legs when they
want to play just as they do to other dogs, and submit to us as they submit to
a pack leader. Cats are descendants of far less social creatures, but when
they notice us at all, we're cats. They deliver dead mice to us, or beg for
attention the way a kitten does from its mother with its tail straight up in
the air. They paint the world in their image just as we paint it in ours."
GuiltyBystander9
>> >Yes.
>>
>> Why the terse answer?
>
>Why do you call that a terse answer? You can't hear the tone of voice
>she said it in.
What has tone got to do with it? Look up "terse" in the dictionary.
>If you feel the answer needs more elaboration please ask
>politely, before judging the tone of the message.
Why do you assume I wasn't asking "politely"? You can't hear the "tone" I
asked the question in.
I thought you were a rational adult. But now I can see you are just as bad as
most of the rest in this "news" group. Into my kill file you go.
GuiltyBystander9
>Please realize that not everyone on usenet is also looking for spiritual
>guidance,
I wasn't looking for "spiritual guidance"--who in God's name would on
usenet--but a conversation, perhaps an exchange of view with other thoughtful
pet owners.
Obviously, that was a foolish hope, as I can see by the thread that has
developed.
You people are really trash.
Luha
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Lotsa pins, I guess. Now that would make a long death scene!
Luha
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You'd have to aske the Pharislugs. I didn't do it. I would only take part
in the crucifixion of jesus, if I had a chance.
Phylter
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Goldfish? Six months? I have had mine about two to three years, prolly
splains why one has a cataract and is silver (used to be gold)
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Good for getting leeches off in a hurry too!
Barb
I am so sorry you had to hear all that from those others. You have a
legitimate question.One that I'm sure every child that had a pet die
has asked. I was told that they do not have souls since we were
created in God's image(the soul) but they weren't. BUT they do enjoy
everlasting happiness if they have served well.St Francis (Saint who
talked to and understood animals) said that the animals have a place
after they die. I have just recently lost a very loving cat and
picturing him in a paradise makes some pain lighter. So they do get
rewarded for being good and someday we will see them again. I hope
this helps.
Barb(#2)
MarkZ1000
bookstore and search out the "Tanakh" "The New JPS Translation According to the
Traditional Hebrew Text". Great translation of the "Torah, Nevi'im, Kethuvim"
Mark Zimmerman * Chicago
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duke32
> Yes, and if animals do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior,
>> then they go straight to Hell where all the bad-tempered human souls do
>> unspeakable and shocking things to them all day and all night forever and
>> ever. Amen.
>
>I have a recurring nightmare that I'm walking through a garden and happen
>upon a crucified ant, the a crucified slug, etc. Each species must accept
>their crucified species-savior or be damned to that version of species-hell.
>How the hell do you crucify a snake?
Get luha to hold one end by the tail and one end by the head, and wait
for the lightening strike.
Works every time.
duke
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One day every tongue
Will confess You are God.
One day every knee will bow.
Still the greatest treasure remains
For those who gladly choose you now.
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Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
They wouldn't have been really expensive Japanese "koi?" Either that,
or you didn't overfeed them. Most kids would empty half the Tetra-min
can per feeding.
Pious Paul
Ron wrote:
> GuiltyBystander9 wrote:
> > If you believe that humans have souls, do you also believe that animals have
> > souls?
> > If you believe that humans enjoy an afterlife, do you also believe that animals
> > do as well?
>
> Yes, and if animals do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior,
> then they go straight to Hell where all the bad-tempered human souls do
> unspeakable and shocking things to them all day and all night forever and
> ever. Amen.
An interesting question, now in my opinion Jebeavis loved all the creatures in the
world so so I would think they do... What? Oh SHIT! My pork loin is burning.
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Pious Paul
S. J. Muller wrote:
> "Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA" wrote:
>
> > Begs the question. How come jesus' parents didn't give him a puppy?
>
> <sarcasm on> How come we don't hear more about his other siblings? <sarcasm off>
>
> Mainly the stories are to highlight specific lessons to be taught, or to bolster the
> claim that he was the Messiah, and specific anecdotes match specific prophesies.
> As to why he didn't have a pet when he was in his thirties?
> Well,
> 1. He would be doing a lot of traveling, and wouldn't have time to properly take care
> of a pet.
> 2. Knowing he would die at some point in his ministry, it would be a bad idea to begin
> pet ownership, knowing that he would need to designate someone to look after them. But
> then, he did do that, he told Peter, "Feed my sheep."
>
No, I think he said, "Peter, don't fuck my sheep"..
Ron
cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
Or, if the kid was me, feed them stuff out of the fridge... like, say,
butter.
Ron
cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> S. J. Muller wrote:
> >
> > "Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA" wrote:
> >
> > > Begs the question. How come jesus' parents didn't give him a puppy?
> >
> > <sarcasm on> How come we don't hear more about his other siblings? <sarcasm off>
> >
> > Mainly the stories are to highlight specific lessons to be taught, or to bolster the
> > claim that he was the Messiah, and specific anecdotes match specific prophesies.
> > As to why he didn't have a pet when he was in his thirties?
>
> Or a girlfriend.
He didn't fuck Mary Magdalene? Or get to second base, at least?
> > Well,
> > 1. He would be doing a lot of traveling, and wouldn't have time to properly take care
> > of a pet.
>
> In which case, he could get a kitten.
Complete Kitten Care Guide
Chapter 1: Housebreaking
Show kitten where the litter box is.
Chapter 2: Feeding
Place bowl of water on floor next to plate. Dump a tin of tuna onto the
plate.
The End
> > 2. Knowing he would die at some point in his ministry, it would be a bad idea to begin
> > pet ownership, knowing that he would need to designate someone to look after them. But
> > then, he did do that, he told Peter, "Feed my sheep."
>
> Easily cared for pets that would fit the lifestyle of a fanatic martyr:
>
> Syrian hamster. Maximum life expectancy, 6 years.
> Goldfish. 6 months.
> Cricket. 6 weeks.
Pet rock. 10 billion years, give or take an eon.
Velve...@bennyhinn.org
Assuming you wanted a pet with all the traits of a fundamentalist christian.
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"And lo, Jesus did say unto the soldiers 'Not the OTHER hand.
Ow shit, that hurts! You assholes!' "
[2 Kinison 3:45]
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Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
>
> In article <3D61B60B.7867@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>,
> cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> > S. J. Muller wrote:
> > >
> > > "Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Begs the question. How come jesus' parents didn't give him a puppy?
> > >
> > > <sarcasm on> How come we don't hear more about his other siblings? <sarcasm off>
> > >
> > > Mainly the stories are to highlight specific lessons to be taught, or to bolster the
> > > claim that he was the Messiah, and specific anecdotes match specific prophesies.
> > > As to why he didn't have a pet when he was in his thirties?
> >
> > Or a girlfriend.
>
> He didn't fuck Mary Magdalene? Or get to second base, at least?
Tit? Or a feel?
> > > Well,
> > > 1. He would be doing a lot of traveling, and wouldn't have time to properly take care
> > > of a pet.
> >
> > In which case, he could get a kitten.
>
> Complete Kitten Care Guide
>
> Chapter 1: Housebreaking
> Show kitten where the litter box is.
>
> Chapter 2: Feeding
> Place bowl of water on floor next to plate. Dump a tin of tuna onto the
> plate.
>
> The End
Get hungover and don't feed the animal for two days. No difference.
Norman Wilson
>
>Or a centipede?
Aren't there variants of the cross with more than one horizontal bar?
As for a snake, isn't that what a caduceus is?
Norman Wilson
Toronto ON
--
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Maeljin
shif...@sands.oftime says...
> > >
> > > GuiltyBystander9 wrote:
> > > > If you believe that humans have souls, do you also believe that animals have
> > > > souls?
> > > > If you believe that humans enjoy an afterlife, do you also believe that animals
> > > > do as well?
> > >
> > > Yes, and if animals do not accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior,
> > > then they go straight to Hell where all the bad-tempered human souls do
> > > unspeakable and shocking things to them all day and all night forever and
> > > ever. Amen.
> >
>
> over most of Jesus' childhood? It's no wonder why: Think of what the
> average little boy does to insects and small animals. Now imagine a
> little boy with the full power of The Lord alone with a puppy. I'll bet
> he did all sorts of terrible things to small animals that historians were
> loathe to write about. There probably deformed cats and demon-possessed
> frogs all over the place.
>
But he did that. There's an apocryphal, Divine Nature of Jebus-Aryan
gospel that tells of how he fries a bully with his super powers. Then
Mary convinces him to resuscitate the poor kid before "His Father Comes
Home, or There May Not Be Any Holy Scones for Dessert, Young Man!".
--
|-Maeljin-|
(Damned by Dore, Primo in Italia)
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Jesus tries to crack a smile
Beneath another shovel load"
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Maeljin
s_du...@hotmail.com says...
glass death, if I remember correctly.
Phylter
Nup, 3 plain old veiltail goldfish. Well, one's black with the buggy eyes
and they get fed at 6:30am, just before I go to work, and again at around
5:30pm when I get home, a generous pinch of flakes per feed. Bout 1/2 a
teaspoon.
Presbyter Coxcomb
> > How the hell do you crucify a snake?
>
> Or a centipede?
Tear-off all but 4 or its legs.
Maeljin
says...
> cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> > S. J. Muller wrote:
> > >
> > > "Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Begs the question. How come jesus' parents didn't give him a puppy?
> > >
> > > <sarcasm on> How come we don't hear more about his other siblings? <sarcasm off>
> > >
> > > Mainly the stories are to highlight specific lessons to be taught, or to bolster the
> > > claim that he was the Messiah, and specific anecdotes match specific prophesies.
> > > As to why he didn't have a pet when he was in his thirties?
> >
> > Or a girlfriend.
>
> He didn't fuck Mary Magdalene? Or get to second base, at least?
>
> > > Well,
> > > 1. He would be doing a lot of traveling, and wouldn't have time to properly take care
> > > of a pet.
> >
> > In which case, he could get a kitten.
>
> Complete Kitten Care Guide
>
> Chapter 1: Housebreaking
> Show kitten where the litter box is.
>
> Chapter 2: Feeding
> Place bowl of water on floor next to plate. Dump a tin of tuna onto the
> plate.
>
Ron
maeljin@*removethis*libero.it says...
> In article <MPG.17ccb198a...@news.alt.net>, ron...@oo.rg
> says...
> > In article <3D61B60B.7867@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>,
> > cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> > > S. J. Muller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Begs the question. How come jesus' parents didn't give him a puppy?
> > > >
> > > > <sarcasm on> How come we don't hear more about his other siblings? <sarcasm off>
> > > >
> > > > Mainly the stories are to highlight specific lessons to be taught, or to bolster the
> > > > claim that he was the Messiah, and specific anecdotes match specific prophesies.
> > > > As to why he didn't have a pet when he was in his thirties?
> > >
> > > Or a girlfriend.
> >
> > He didn't fuck Mary Magdalene? Or get to second base, at least?
> >
> > > > Well,
> > > > 1. He would be doing a lot of traveling, and wouldn't have time to properly take care
> > > > of a pet.
> > >
> > > In which case, he could get a kitten.
> >
> > Complete Kitten Care Guide
> >
> > Chapter 1: Housebreaking
> > Show kitten where the litter box is.
> >
> > Chapter 2: Feeding
> > Place bowl of water on floor next to plate. Dump a tin of tuna onto the
> > plate.
> >
> The cat would lick his stigmata all the time. I'd call that "messy".
Chapter 3: Entertainment (Yours)
Shove a bottle rocket up the kitten's ass, and then light the fuse.
Dr. Rev Chuck, MD., PA
Ron
cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
Oh, jeez. They're just cats, for fuck's sake. What's next, the death
penalty for squishing ants? Forty lashes for swatting a fly? LWOP for
petting your dog in the wrong direction?
Chapter 4: Health and Safety
Tie your male kitten up with some twine, and then use a single-edged
razor blade to chop his little balls off.
Maeljin
says...
Luha
news:MPG.17d03eebe...@powernews.libero.it...
> In article <MPG.17cfc77cd...@news.alt.net>, ro...@sand.dunes
> says...
> > In article <3D65F788.24BF@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>,
> > cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> > > Ron wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In article <MPG.17ced54c7...@powernews.libero.it>,
> > > > maeljin@*removethis*libero.it says...
> > > > > In article <MPG.17ccb198a...@news.alt.net>, ron...@oo.rg
> > > > > says...
> > > > > > In article <3D61B60B.7867@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>,
> > > > > > cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> >
> > Chapter 4: Health and Safety
> > Tie your male kitten up with some twine, and then use a single-edged
> > razor blade to chop his little balls off.
> >
> We could use that one with some of our Xian interlopers.
>
Maeljin
s_du...@hotmail.com says...
> news:MPG.17d03eebe...@powernews.libero.it...
> > In article <MPG.17cfc77cd...@news.alt.net>, ro...@sand.dunes
> > says...
> > > In article <3D65F788.24BF@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>,
> > > cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> > > > Ron wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <MPG.17ced54c7...@powernews.libero.it>,
> > > > > maeljin@*removethis*libero.it says...
> > > > > > In article <MPG.17ccb198a...@news.alt.net>, ron...@oo.rg
> > > > > > says...
> > > > > > > In article <3D61B60B.7867@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com>,
> > > > > > > cdub@_REMOVETHIS_erols.com says...
> [snip]
> > >
> > > Chapter 4: Health and Safety
> > > Tie your male kitten up with some twine, and then use a single-edged
> > > razor blade to chop his little balls off.
> > >
> > We could use that one with some of our Xian interlopers.
> >
> A little late, I suppose.
>
Melchizedek
Maeljin - the worm hole.
Melchizedek
"Phylter" <phy...@NOSPAhMotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9271B28AE2CD...@192.168.0.4...
Heeeey Phylter, sing a few bars of I Believe, 4 us ! (-;
Ishah
>there in heaven as it says so prominently in the Bible?
it doesn't say they are in heaven...that is what happens during the Millennial
Reign of Christ..there is total peace, and this includes peace between the
species of animals...
Ishah
>infinite spiritual essence shared by all living beings, the answer has
>to be yes.
that is pantheism...that god exists in all things...Thoreau and Emerson were
panthiests...
Ishah
the human's life is in it's 'soul'...
that being said,
there is nothing in the bible to support animals in heaven...
but that doesn't mean i wouldn't like to see them there...