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Sep 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/24/98
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I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
(both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.

i know that much of this would depend on the specific cats
invloved, and that cats can be... errr... erratic in their behaviors
sometimes. What I would like is an idea of behaviors or patterns to look
for (if such exist) that would give us a clue whether this is a good idea
or not.

Thanks for your help...

andy

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Sue & Steve

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Sep 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/24/98
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We faced a similar situation of wanting to add another cat to our two-cat
family. We ended up deciding to add two related cats, to try to avoid some
sort of triangle where one cat would be excluded. At worst, we would have
two pairs of cats that went their own way, but no one would feel excluded.
That's what we did. We now have a 17 month old male, a 13 month old female,
and two 5 month olds (one male and one female). We are VERY lucky that
introductions took a grand total of two days, and everyone is getting along
fabulously (a mere 2 weeks later). Something to consider?

Susan L.

dovi...@hotmail.con - .com to reply (Andy Bezella) wrote in message ...


> I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
>situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
>bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
>(both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
>are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
>years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.

[snip]>

JDeCicco

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Sep 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/24/98
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My husband and I also have four cats. The newest addition (adult female) came to
live with us 3 weeks ago. Strangely enough, the "lowest" cat in the group (also
adult female) took the new addition the worst, although things are slowly working
themselves out. In fact, it looks like our new girl (Sammie) is reaching "top
dog" status even though she is a 6 lb. female living with another female her size
and two males in the 11-14 lb range!

From my experiences the past few weeks, I would strongly consider adding a kitten
as opposed to an adult cat. The girls will be less threatened by a baby. Also,
from all that I have read, females tend to be more territorial than males. (This
has also proven to be true in my home!) You may want to consider a male kitten.

Good luck! I think it is a great idea :)

-Mary

jny wrote:

> Andy Bezella wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
> > situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
> > bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
> > (both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
> > are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
> > years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.
> >

> > i know that much of this would depend on the specific cats
> > invloved, and that cats can be... errr... erratic in their behaviors
> > sometimes. What I would like is an idea of behaviors or patterns to look
> > for (if such exist) that would give us a clue whether this is a good idea
> > or not.
> >
> > Thanks for your help...
> >

> > andy
> >
> > --
> > Andy Bezella "I'm betting I'm just
> > dovi...@hotmail.con abnormal enough to survive!" - The Tick
> > ".com" to reply
> > http://dovienya.interzone.org/ - in progress :)
>

> Hi Andy!
>
> I have four cats (actually *nine* cats at the moment - fostering a mother and
> her four babies) and we faced this problem when we decided to add to our
> little fur family.
>
> I really think you can't tell how your cats are going to react *until* you
> get the third cat. Some cats react badly, some cats welcome the newcomer
> with open paws. For example, when we got my eldest cat Cinnamon we decided
> to get her a companion and they were fine together (cuddled up
> together/played etc) until Sammie got spayed and turned into an aggressive
> little she-devil from hell. Towards the end of Sammie living with us we
> acquired another kitten Max and he got on with Cinnamon but not Sammie.
> Sammie got rehoused by the way with my parents so we get to see her all the
> time and my parents dote on her.
>
> So my point is, I guess, that you can never tell how your cats will react
> until you get a third cat. I quite liked the idea of another poster of
> getting *two* cats, then if your original two don't like them the newcomers
> have companionship. But I'm just biased, as I have four cats myself :-)
>
> As your two cats are both good natured and enjoy playing with each other I
> would say that they are pretty sociable. I think you would have to watch out
> for the independent, loner type who loves you to bits but probably doesn't
> tolerate other cats and that doesn't sound like your two girls. Go for it!
> I'm sure that there is a lovely little cat out there just hoping to come live
> with you and your girls.
>
> Let us know what you decide.
>
> Regards
> Jennie
> in Auckland, NZ
> with the furry 4
> and the temporary furry 5 (ohmigosh - *9* cats!)


Martini

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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In article <MPG.10749d3d7...@news.uswest.net>, dovi...@hotmail.con - ".com" to reply (Andy Bezella) wrote:
:: I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
::situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
::bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
::(both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
::are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
::years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.
::
:: i know that much of this would depend on the specific cats
::invloved, and that cats can be... errr... erratic in their behaviors
::sometimes. What I would like is an idea of behaviors or patterns to look
::for (if such exist) that would give us a clue whether this is a good idea
::or not.
::
:: Thanks for your help...
::
:: andy
::

I had a friend that had to cats who were sisters, and they would attack ANY
animal that came in the house. I was funny because they were two of the most
petite tabbys I have ever seen.

We brought a 3rd cat into our home about 8 months ago. It has taken a while
for our little girl tabby to come around, but they are finally getting along.
We think one problem is that the new cat (17pd Birman Male) is in love with
her. She is very inocent, and didnt know how to deal with it. Now they are
pals, but we still think he loves her. (You can tell by the way he looks at
her).

PS If you are looking for a new cat, please check your shelter.
With our 3 cats, one was a stray kitten, one was a shelter kitty, and one was
an adoption. We love them all so much! If we ever decide to go for a 4th, it
will also come from a shelter.

_____________________________________
M a r t i n B l a c k s t o n e
m a r t i n b 1 [a t] h o m e . c o m

jny

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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Andy Bezella wrote:

> I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
> situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
> bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
> (both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
> are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
> years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.
>
> i know that much of this would depend on the specific cats
> invloved, and that cats can be... errr... erratic in their behaviors
> sometimes. What I would like is an idea of behaviors or patterns to look
> for (if such exist) that would give us a clue whether this is a good idea
> or not.
>
> Thanks for your help...
>
> andy
>

Richard Evans

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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jny <j...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

>
>I really think you can't tell how your cats are going to react *until* you
>get the third cat.

I have three cats (two neutered males and one neutered female). The
female is the oldest, but about three years ago the males began to
bully her so she moved into my home office and lives separate from the
males. The males are indoor/outdoor cats. In addition, I foster
feral/homeless kittens. I presently have three ferals from three
different litters. I keep the ferals in my office as well. I find the
female tolerates the foster kittens, but the males react aggressively,
so I keep the fosters separate from the males. All the ferals accept
each other.

Interestingly enough, the female (Cassie) has actually been helping
socialize one of the ferals. I lie on the floor and pet Cassie. A
calico feral (Nutmeg) watches from a distance, but after a minute or
two comes over and butts Cassie out of the way and insists I pet her.
She is then quite affectionate for several minutes. I haven't been
able to handle her otherwise.

Dick Evans

Chris Browne

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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Yes, I did this too. I added 2 kittens at once to my existing 4 cats and
everybody is getting along great. If you add a kitten or 2, you should not
have any problems. Good Luck!

Sue & Steve <cell...@mnsinc.com> wrote in article
<6uep67$njo$1...@clarknet.clark.net>...


> We faced a similar situation of wanting to add another cat to our two-cat
> family. We ended up deciding to add two related cats, to try to avoid
some
> sort of triangle where one cat would be excluded. At worst, we would
have
> two pairs of cats that went their own way, but no one would feel
excluded.
> That's what we did. We now have a 17 month old male, a 13 month old
female,
> and two 5 month olds (one male and one female). We are VERY lucky that
> introductions took a grand total of two days, and everyone is getting
along
> fabulously (a mere 2 weeks later). Something to consider?
>
> Susan L.
>

> dovi...@hotmail.con - .com to reply (Andy Bezella) wrote in message ...


> > I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
> >situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
> >bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
> >(both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
> >are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to
five
> >years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.

> [snip]>

jacaran...@worldnet.att.net

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Sep 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/26/98
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In article <MPG.10749d3d7...@news.uswest.net>,

dovi...@hotmail.con - ".com" to reply (Andy Bezella) wrote:
> I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
> situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
> bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
> (both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
> are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
> years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.
>
> i know that much of this would depend on the specific cats
> invloved, and that cats can be... errr... erratic in their behaviors
> sometimes. What I would like is an idea of behaviors or patterns to look
> for (if such exist) that would give us a clue whether this is a good idea
> or not.
>
> Thanks for your help...
>

When we got our second cat, she and the first (also a female) fought terribly
for half a year. At that time we reluctantly agreed to take a third (a male)
that was going to wind up homeless when a friend of ours moved to another
country that wouldn't allow her to bring the cat. Surprisingly, he turned out
to be the peacemaker. Everything has been fine since. I guess you'll never
know unless you try it.

-Jac


> andy
>
> --
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> dovi...@hotmail.con abnormal enough to survive!" - The Tick
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> http://dovienya.interzone.org/ - in progress :)
>

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Colette

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Sep 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/26/98
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I did it, but brought in a new kitten (1- wks. old) as the third cat. Both
other cats accepted him fairly readily. My vet made me keep him isolated
for 1 week, during which time they all got acquainted under the door, and
by the time I let them be together, there wasn't much problem. My cat who
was less than 1 yr. old did hiss at the kitten for awhile, but only for a
few days. The older one just sniffed him and didn't seem threatened at
all. They all get along fine now, and always have really. I can't image
bringing in a third adult cat, though.
--
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http://w3.one.net/~truth

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Sep 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/27/98
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On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:47:51 -0400, "Sue & Steve"
<cell...@mnsinc.com> wrote:

>We faced a similar situation of wanting to add another cat to our two-cat
>family. We ended up deciding to add two related cats, to try to avoid some
>sort of triangle where one cat would be excluded. At worst, we would have
>two pairs of cats that went their own way, but no one would feel excluded.
>That's what we did. We now have a 17 month old male, a 13 month old female,
>and two 5 month olds (one male and one female). We are VERY lucky that
>introductions took a grand total of two days, and everyone is getting along
>fabulously (a mere 2 weeks later). Something to consider?
>
>Susan L.

This is really the best route. Four really isn't more trouble than
three, and if the new pair already get along, they will have each
other to socialize with. Slow introductions will almost always end up
with them at least tolerating each other.

>
>dovi...@hotmail.con - .com to reply (Andy Bezella) wrote in message ...


>> I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
>>situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
>>bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
>>(both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
>>are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
>>years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.

>[snip]>

Nanaki

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Sep 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/28/98
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In rec.pets.cats.misc .comAndy Bezella <dovi...@hotmail.con - dovi...@hotmail.con - to reply> elaborated:
: I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
: situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
: bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
: (both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
: are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
: years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.

Hmm, our first cat never got over us bringing in two other cats. Though we
introduced them wrong too. She has always been incredibly jealouse ever
since (for like 11 years). We can't even pet the cats in front of her
without her getting really annoyed. One thing if you do do this, make sure
you pay a lot more attention to the older cats so that they knwo you have
not forgotten them. From what I hear, seperate them with a door for a few
days (so they can smell the other cat but not see) and then introduce them
fully. Make sure you always give more attention to the older cat though.

Tigress

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Sep 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/28/98
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I would suggest adding two more cats. We had two 10 year old sisters, and
every time we attempted the introductions (no matter how patient,
inventative (screen doors to peer through, switching rooms, vanilla
essense), there was tag team wrestling against the newcomer.

One of the tabbies passed on at 14 years of age, we introduced a stray to
the now single sister, and the introduction, though not fun wasn't at all as
unpleasant as the previous attempts. I think if I had brought two new cats
into the household at once, there would have been pairs bs. a triangle.


dovi...@hotmail.con - .com to reply (Andy Bezella) wrote in message ...

> I'm looking for opinions (ideally, a consensus :) on whether this
>situation is one that should even be attempted. We are thinking of
>bringing a third cat into our two cat family. The two cats are sisters
>(both spayed) from the same litter. The sisters are not declawed. They
>are both good natured and enjoy to frolick. They're in the three to five
>years old range. The third cat is hypothetical.
>

> i know that much of this would depend on the specific cats
>invloved, and that cats can be... errr... erratic in their behaviors
>sometimes. What I would like is an idea of behaviors or patterns to look
>for (if such exist) that would give us a clue whether this is a good idea
>or not.
>
> Thanks for your help...
>

- .com

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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Unfortunately, bringing in kittens (which everyone seems to agree
is best) is not going to be possible in these circumstances. The
youngest they would be is probably is the one and a half to two and a
half years old range. Based on other inut, I would probably get a pair
of brothers and then just introduce them as best we can (I'll check back
later for how best to go about this).

So does this sound realistic (again, I know a lot will have to do
with the individual cats): Introducing a pair of brothers, neutered,
between 1.5-2.5 (or so) years old, not declawed, (and hypothetical) to
our sisters, neutered, probably about 2.5-4 years old, not declawed, very
friendly and playful.

Thanks again...

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