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Is there a cat breed with small ears?

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Hopitus

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Apr 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/20/00
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Are you talking Scotch Folds, whose ears are not really smaller, but folded
so they *look* smaller till you get up close? They have very sweet,
round-eyed faces.........

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"Ritchie Mudge" <necr...@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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: I occasionally see pictures or footage of cats with small stubby ears. At
: first I thought they were simply regular cats with their ears cocked
: forward, or cats with damaged ears, but it occurred to me that there might
: actually be a breed of cats with these stubby ears (somewhat
Garfield-like).
:
: Can anyone confirm this? What breed, if any, are these cats?
:
: Ritchie
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Ritchie Mudge

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Ritchie Mudge

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Never mind answering this question. It turns out the ones I have seen are
probably a cat breed known as the Scottish Fold. Their ears are normal
size, but folded forward so it looks like they are much smaller.

Now I just have to find a breeder in Victoria, Australia...

Ritchie

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ibidem

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Ritchie Mudge wrote:
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> Never mind answering this question. It turns out the ones I have seen are
> probably a cat breed known as the Scottish Fold. Their ears are normal
> size, but folded forward so it looks like they are much smaller.
>
> Now I just have to find a breeder in Victoria, Australia...
>
> Ritchie

Ritchie-
Scottish folds are no longer recognized by British cat organizations.
The genetic mutation the causes the ear folds is also associated with
other genetic defects that are crippling and sometimes fatal. The folded
ears are charming, but is it worth it?

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Krazee4katz

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Those genetic defects are found only when a folded eared cat is bred to
another folded eared cat. You know Manx cats also have some fatal genetic
problems due to the gene that crops the tail.

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ibidem

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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Krazee4katz wrote:
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> Those genetic defects are found only when a folded eared cat is bred to
> another folded eared cat. You know Manx cats also have some fatal genetic
> problems due to the gene that crops the tail.

That's true, Krazee, but if you're going to maintain breed standards,
that's what you have to do: breed folds to folds. That's why the British
associations no longer recognize this critter as a breed. I do believe
they're still recognized in the states, but those folks across the pond
declaw as well.
Manx cats, too, are no longer recognized in England. The genetic
problem there is more closely associated with the breed. The
genetically- mutated absence of a tail also leads to lumbar spinal
fusions and deformities and other skeletal problems, really pretty awful
stuff.

Hopitus

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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I don't know anything about Scotch Fold deformities, but I can tell you Paul
speaks truly re genetic mutations in Manx leading to lower limb major
deformities and anomalies in the offspring thereof! Manx breeders know all
about this and are careful to breed so that some of the offspring have, yes,
tails, some have "stumpies" (I once had a dearly loved one for 14 years) and
some are the true "rumpies" (tail-less, wellknown) Manx breed.....it is a
tricky business, I understand. The deformity, mild if optimal conditions
prevail, is what makes the Manx cat "hop" like a rabbit when moving around.
This is an older breed of cat and compared to the monstrous breeding
characteristics going on these days, i.e. short stubby front legs, all four
short deformed legs, variations on wild/domestic felines,etc. can't compare,
I think.

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Krazee4katz

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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I was the one who first pointed it out. I'm well aware.

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Janet

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Apr 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/21/00
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You have it wrong about the Manx.
Manx cats *are* still recognised and shown in England.
Janet

ibidem

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Apr 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/22/00
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Janet wrote:
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> You have it wrong about the Manx.
> Manx cats *are* still recognised and shown in England.

Janet-
You are absolutely right, and I am wrong. The Manx cat is still
recognized and shown in England.
The best I can recall about the issue was a cat magazine article about
two years ago, saying that Manx's were being considered for decommision
(Refutation? Shunning? What do they call it?) because of all the horrid
defects that are directly associated with the Manx gene. (There is, I
believe, something called a "Manx Syndrome" which includes all the
crippling and lethal deformities Manx are prone to.) The article, if I
recall accurately, said that it was expected that Manx cats would no
longer be recognized.
They are still recognized, and you are correct, Janet.

ibidem

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Apr 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/23/00
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Camilla Scharff wrote:
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> But it is probably not allowed to breed from two rumpies, only a rumpy to a
> stumpy or one of the other tail lenghts... At least that is how this problem
> is dealt with in FIFe (the European Cat Fancy Org.).
>

Camilla-
Yup. But this means that the Manx gene doesn't breed true. Or, more
accurately, that when it does breed true, it leads to all the awful
birth defects. In other words, bred true, the Manx is a genetic horror.
And if you dare not breed Manx to Manx (or rumpy to rumpy) there is a
legitimate question as to whether the Manx can even be called a distinct
breed.

Camilla Scharff

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Apr 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/24/00
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But it is probably not allowed to breed from two rumpies, only a rumpy to a
stumpy or one of the other tail lenghts... At least that is how this problem
is dealt with in FIFe (the European Cat Fancy Org.).

Camilla

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