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Vicki Holzhauer

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Oct 1, 1993, 7:19:23 PM10/1/93
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In article <CE8p1...@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> dage...@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Rick Dagenais) writes:
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>Recently however she has begun vomiting occasionally, generally right
>after we have given her a pounce cat treat.

"Soft moist cat food" (e.g., Tender Vittles, Pounce) came out in the
late seventies when Abigail was young. She loved it so much that she
would gobble it up, then barf. I finally got wise, and gave her this
kind of food a piece at a time. If she were given a bunch of it, I'd
invariably get it back a few minutes later, barely digested.

She lived to be 17-1/2, a Pounce addict almost to the last. I
wouldn't worry about it too much. Just cut her back a bit and give it
slowly, as an occasional treat. Abigail was a "recreational barfer"
for most of her life but was otherwise healthy. When I'd tell the
vet, he'd say "some cats just barf a lot."

This may be true of your cat as well ...

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Rick Dagenais

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Oct 1, 1993, 6:27:06 PM10/1/93
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Hey everyone,

Perseus, our 4 month old DSH has been adjusting beautifully to her new home.
She is playful, snuggly, sleeps with us and has been really well behaved.

Recently however she has begun vomiting occasionally, generally right

after we have given her a pounce cat treat. The is a little ball of
semi-digested Iams, no bigger than the heart shaped pounce we have given
her. Over the last few days I have stopped giving her recently and the
vomiting does seem to have stopped. I have heard anecdotal stories
about these cat treats making some cats sick and am wondering if anyone
else has experience with this.

She has been to the vet recently so I am quite certain there is no other
problem. I know that some cats will throuw up occasionally anyway but the
correlation is fairly strong. Could this be an allergy?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Rick.


Karen Kolling

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Oct 2, 1993, 12:44:56 AM10/2/93
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>Hey everyone,
>
>Perseus, our 4 month old DSH has been adjusting beautifully to her new home.
>She is playful, snuggly, sleeps with us and has been really well behaved.
>
>Recently however she has begun vomiting occasionally, generally right
>after we have given her a pounce cat treat. The is a little ball of

I don't give my cats Pounce because it seems to bring on FUS within hours.
(Kay, how can this be?) However, back when they were eating supermarket cat
food (They're on RD now), there was a Nine Lives flavor called something like
chicken & tuna that brought on instant upchucking. As someone or other
said: "It hurts when you do that? Don't do that."
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kl...@cobra.uni.edu

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Oct 2, 1993, 1:32:36 PM10/2/93
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In article <1993Oct2.0...@adobe.com>, kol...@adobe.com (Karen Kolling) writes:
> I don't give my cats Pounce because it seems to bring on FUS within hours.
> (Kay, how can this be?)

Sounds like a food allergy... I know Pounce has wheat flour, and wheat
gluten is one of the common human allergens...

Kay

Desiree McCrorey

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Oct 2, 1993, 5:24:18 PM10/2/93
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Ya know, it didn't occur to me until I saw this thread's title, why I had
stopped buying Pounce. I, too, suspected that those little morsels could be
the source of the "spot cleaning drill".

As a matter of fact, I just purchased a can recently while wondering why I
hadn't bought any for so long. Now I remember.

Of course, there have been other instances of vomiting where there wasn't
any Pounce given, but I do remember thinking that Pounce could be one of
the reasons for Brandy's vomiting. She has the most sensitive system of the
furry crew.. Any sudden food change triggers rejection.

I guess I'll keeps closer watch on things. Also they do love those little
things so I'm tempted to give them several pieces each. Maybe I'll limit
distribution to just one tidbit each.


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Marguerite Schauder and T.S. Rinzing

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Oct 3, 1993, 2:58:00 AM10/3/93
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if it's any indicator...our cat won't even touch the stuff! I
tried to serve her this small treat...and she just turned her
head and walked away.

Personally I wouldn't trust the pet foods available at commercial
food stores. I found alternatives at the local grainery that
offers high quality pet products and knowledgable staff, at
basically the same price.

Sharon Deetz

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Oct 4, 1993, 12:58:35 PM10/4/93
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In article <1993Oct1.2...@ncar.ucar.edu> vi...@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer) writes:
>In article <CE8p1...@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> dage...@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Rick Dagenais) writes:
>>Recently however she has begun vomiting occasionally, generally right
>>after we have given her a pounce cat treat.
>
>kind of food a piece at a time. If she were given a bunch of it, I'd
>invariably get it back a few minutes later, barely digested.

Missy throws up within 5 minutes after eating the shrimp-flavored Pounce.
All other flavors are fine -- she loves them and never has any problems
with any other kinds of cat snacks, just the shrimp Pounce.

sMd

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Eric Williams

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Oct 4, 1993, 2:11:55 PM10/4/93
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In a previous post, Sharon Deetz (sd8...@swuts.sbc.com) wrote:
: Missy throws up within 5 minutes after eating the shrimp-flavored Pounce.

: All other flavors are fine -- she loves them and never has any problems
: with any other kinds of cat snacks, just the shrimp Pounce.

That's funny, Vincent had the same reaction to shrimp-flavored Jackie's
treat. Happened three times in a row. He's fine with the other flavors.
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Dave Ratcliffe

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Oct 5, 1993, 11:11:29 AM10/5/93
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In article <15264...@igc.apc.org>, tashi...@igc.apc.org (Marguerite Schauder and T.S. Rinzing) writes:
- if it's any indicator...our cat won't even touch the stuff! I
- tried to serve her this small treat...and she just turned her
- head and walked away.

Initially both Pye and T'pring liked the cans of soft Pounce and went
NUTS for the crunchy dried Pounce when they came out. Now both kids
turn noses up at the soft Pounce for anything except something to bat
around on the floor until bored. They STILL go ape for the crunchy
variety however which I prefer anyway for their teeth.

Dave (looking for a suck^H^H^H^H taker for 5 cans of soft Pounce) Ratcliffe

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Eric Storch

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Oct 7, 1993, 2:11:51 AM10/7/93
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Hello everyone!
Our B/W DSH is a chronic barfer, too. Thing of it is, he is ok w/ Pounce
or Fishies, Cluckers, etc. When he barfs, it is regular cat food, half
digested. With Science Diet Feline Maint., he threw it up as soon as he
got it in him. My wife was freaking out cause Mr. M. is hers and she is
very much his (a case of love at first sight) and her baby was starving to
death before her eyes--not a pretty scene. Finally, after the suggestions
from the vet had all failed, she switched to Pro Plan Turkey and Barley.
Everything was just peachy for a while, but now the vomiting is starting up
again -- but just 3 or 4 times a week.

The food comes up half digested, in the form of a cylinder. He does not
have a hairball problem, as there is no hair in the "mess". Besides, he
gets plenty of hairball stuff.

Can anyone help us?

We already know that he has a "titchy" tummy, which means he gets sick if
he:
a) eats too fast
b) goes too long between meals
c) if food is wrong temperature (too cold)
d) has the hypers right after eating
e) eats Science Diet--no sooner is it down than it comes up again


Our vet is stumped.


My wife is about ready to say to hell with it all and feed him Tender
Vittles or something--like I said earlier, he CAN eat and keep down
commercial cat treats (and People food--green beans, chicken, and just
about anything Italian). I'm about to agree with her, because even though
neither of us are crazy about what is in most supermarket pet foods, it
would be nice not to have to be forever cleaning up medium-brown puke off
of a light blue carpet.

HELP HELP HELP we only want our kitty to be happy and healthy--which he
is, save for this puking thing.
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kl...@cobra.uni.edu

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Oct 8, 1993, 12:08:13 AM10/8/93
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In article <1993Oct7.0...@petra.ma30.bull.com>, er...@petra.ma30.bull.com (Eric Storch) writes:
> Our B/W DSH is a chronic barfer, too. Thing of it is, he is ok w/ Pounce
> or Fishies, Cluckers, etc. When he barfs, it is regular cat food, half
> digested.

Besseya is allergic to corn gluten... so far, the only commercial
food she can handle is Iams (she also can handle rice and lamb dog
food, but it's not balanced for cats, so that's not a long term solution).

You might check the ingredients of the "barfing foods" and see what's
in common. That's how we pinned Bess's troubles to corn gluten.

If she becomes allergic to something in Iams, I guess I'll just have
to get out the homemade K/D, C/D type recipes I posted earlier and
start playing with the hypoallergenic diet for her. She'll be
*very* pleased!

Kay Klier Biology Dept UNI

Terri Rivkin

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Oct 11, 1993, 2:02:26 PM10/11/93
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Our female Princess is also a puker. She pukes up the same thing you are talking
about. She has very long hair, and sometimes she pukes up an unmistakeable hair
ball. Most other times though she pukes up those cylinders of undigested food as
you so call them. I have heard her puke them up while she is eating! Just like yours
she eats too fast, or too much and then pukes it up. She is otherwise very healthy.
We never have a problem with her. I've taken to calling her "pukey" lately. She
seemed to puke less when we had her hair shaved off, but it's growing back now and
the puking episodes are more frequent. Time for the hairball medicine again!

Terri Rivkin
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Princeton, NJ

Michael R. Dow

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Oct 12, 1993, 3:17:06 PM10/12/93
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We had to switch cat-foods due to the sensitive pallette of
Midnight... All the other cats could eat Iams, but not Midnight...

Eventually we switched to 'Prominence' (available only through Amway,
as far as I can tell) and the problem disappeared..

The vet wondered what I was feeding my cats, since urinalysis showed
exceptional acidity levels, and blood tests came back with equally
exceptional results...

Pounce doesn't seem to bother Midnight... Just cat food... We also
can't feed her scraps of anything.

Michael R. Dow

elizabeth worden

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Oct 12, 1993, 4:15:29 PM10/12/93
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Does anyone out there breed ragdolls? I am looking for one.
Thanks!


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