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tbird88

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Jun 2, 2001, 12:39:24 AM6/2/01
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She's due in the next week or so, I doubt she can pass the babies with the
busted pelvis. Broke it last Sunday. About the only choice seems to be to
take the kittens via C-section, though they won't live, but she'll at least
have a chance herself. Then let the pelvis heal.

Opinions ?
Suggestions ?

thanks,

tbird88


bluemaxx

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Jun 2, 2001, 2:10:28 AM6/2/01
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When I was 19 and dumber than a rock when it came to feline care, I was
right about in the same situation that you're right now. My indoor/outdoor
female became pregnant right before (or the same night) she got hit by a
car. She ended up with permanent nerve damage and a nerve-dead hind leg she
couldn't walk on due to her broken pelvis. I didn't have her leg amputated
(waited to see how she got on) and she got along just fine by swinging her
leg out to the side to walk & run - she used it like a peg-leg for balance.

I also kept her caged in a larger-sized dog crate to restrict her movement.
Emerald spent about 2-3 weeks in the dog crate before she could easily move
around with a brace on. Is keeping your cat in a dog crate, along with her
kittens after the c-section, out of the question? What surgery and/or brace
has your vet given to your cat for her broken pelvis? Is your vet the one
that told you her kittens wouldn't survive?

Emergency c-section was done on my cat, Emerald, when she started to deliver
but couldn't push the kittens out. Although the first (*very large) baby
was dead, her other normal-sized kittens lived; all 3 of them. Your cats
kittens can live if they're delivered by c-section. Realize however, that
you WILL have to help her feed the kittens the first few weeks. A full time
job, that. Your cat will also have an incision along her stomach that will
make nursing painful to her at first and she'll be too busy recooperating
from the surgery to pay much attention to her kittens at first, but in my
cats case, she came around to take care of the kittens once she started
feeling better. Emerald started coping with her babies about 1 1/2 weeks
after her surgery and her milk came in just fine. All 3 babies were well
taken care of by her after she recooperated enough to bond with them.

Call your vet now. She/he should be appraised of your cats pregnancy if
they haven't already been so. They have to be prepared to do an emergency
c-section on her once signs of birth are imminent. Also, locate the
emergency animal hospital closest to you in case your cat starts to give
birth during the wee hours of the night. Good luck and best wishes for your
cats healing.
--
Linda

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Imfifth

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Jun 2, 2001, 8:46:50 AM6/2/01
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A neighbor found a cat that had been hit by some kind of vehicle and never
treated AND she was pregnant. This friend didn't know that the cat had
injuries so she didn't worry about the impending birth. On the day the kittens
were to arrive she called me over and it became clear something was wrong. We
brought kitty to the vet, they did a c-section. All of the kitteens but the
initial one that became stuck lived.
Kitty got spayed and lived a long life :o)
Dawn

Kelly

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Jun 2, 2001, 12:50:44 PM6/2/01
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See a vet, and ask him/her what would be best!!!!!!

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tbird88

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Jun 2, 2001, 10:53:06 PM6/2/01
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Thanks, I opted to spay her. She'll lose her kittens, but will probably come
through this a lot better.

in Texas,

tbird88

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Kelly

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Jun 3, 2001, 1:06:51 AM6/3/01
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I hope everything turns out well, and that she heals up....

Kelly

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Bob Brenchley.

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Jun 3, 2001, 4:42:11 AM6/3/01
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 23:39:24 -0500, "tbird88" <tbi...@logoncafe.net>
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Of course the kittens will live, what makes you think they will not?

Let the vet take her in now, so she get settled with the smells and
the cage and gets over the highest level of stress. The vet will then
let her go into labour as normal but be read for a C section if it is
clear she will not deliver normally.

There is no reason for the kittens to die, nor your cat. If the C
section is necessary then he will neuter at the same time as there
will actually be MORE risk if she becomes pregnant in the future.

HTH.

Good luck to you all.

--
Bob.

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

Kelly

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Jun 3, 2001, 12:31:54 PM6/3/01
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Bob, the kittens will not live if they had the brunt force of the car....
which they probably did, considering the cats pelvis is broken.

Kelly

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Farleyaw

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Jun 3, 2001, 1:11:12 PM6/3/01
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I don't know much about cats in this situation but......pregnant, soon to
deliver mommies have live babies even after suffering major trauma to the area
- not all these babies have to be delivered immediately or by C-section....cats
probably work the same way.

Anne :)

Bob Brenchley.

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Jun 3, 2001, 12:55:12 PM6/3/01
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:31:54 GMT, "Kelly" <kros...@uoguelph.ca>
wrote:

>Bob, the kittens will not live if they had the brunt force of the car....
>which they probably did, considering the cats pelvis is broken.
>
>Kelly


You would be surprised how well protected a kitten is inside the womb.
I think they stand a very good chance if the vet handles it correctly.

--
Bob.

Chocolates have many preservatives. Preservatives make you look
younger.

Kelly

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Jun 3, 2001, 3:57:18 PM6/3/01
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"Bob Brenchley." <B...@Format.Publications.ukf.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:31:54 GMT, "Kelly" <kros...@uoguelph.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Bob, the kittens will not live if they had the brunt force of the car....
> >which they probably did, considering the cats pelvis is broken.
> >
> >Kelly
>
>
> You would be surprised how well protected a kitten is inside the womb.
> I think they stand a very good chance if the vet handles it correctly.

It depends largely on how far the pregnancy is along. If the kittens have
dropped in the womb, they are most likely dead. A force large enough to
blow out the cats pelvis, is surely enough to kill the kittens inside of
her.
Anyway, this is a conversation for alt.pointless.debates because the
origonal poster has already made the decision and had the cat spayed.

Kelly


Adrian Lane

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Jun 3, 2001, 6:08:59 PM6/3/01
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>Subject: Re: pregnant cat/broken pelvis > advice ?
>From: "Kelly" kros...@uoguelph.ca
>Date: 03/06/01 17:31 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <_DtS6.75313$r7.10...@news1.busy1.on.home.com>

>
>Bob, the kittens will not live if they had the brunt force of the car....
>which they probably did, considering the cats pelvis is broken.
>
>Kelly
>

You are not in a position to judge that, only the vet is. But if the cat is not
already aborting then the odds are that the kittens are still ok.

On Animal Hospital the week before last there was just such a case.

Let the vet try to save them.


--
Adrian Lane and Family.

Most cats, when they are out, want to be in, and vice versa, and often
simultaneously. - Louis Camuti, DVM

Adrian Lane

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Jun 3, 2001, 6:12:42 PM6/3/01
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>Subject: Re: pregnant cat/broken pelvis > advice ?
>From: "Kelly" kros...@uoguelph.ca
>Date: 03/06/01 20:57 GMT Daylight Time
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Which at this late stage means the vet will deliver the kittens and of course
will try to save their lives.

Your replies were rather silly Kelly, and I think you would have done better to
learn more about cats before making such wild assumptions.

Kelly

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Jun 3, 2001, 6:58:12 PM6/3/01
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> >>
> >> You would be surprised how well protected a kitten is inside the womb.
> >> I think they stand a very good chance if the vet handles it correctly.
> >
> >It depends largely on how far the pregnancy is along. If the kittens
have
> >dropped in the womb, they are most likely dead. A force large enough to
> >blow out the cats pelvis, is surely enough to kill the kittens inside of
> >her.
> >Anyway, this is a conversation for alt.pointless.debates because the
> >origonal poster has already made the decision and had the cat spayed.
> >
> >Kelly
> >
> Which at this late stage means the vet will deliver the kittens and of
course
> will try to save their lives.
>
> Your replies were rather silly Kelly, and I think you would have done
better to
> learn more about cats before making such wild assumptions.

Whatever you say "Adrian". I was waiting for one of Bob's "accomplices" to
show up.... don't you think the joke has gone on long enough?

You never post advice for people, I only see you in the newsgroups to back
up your friend Bob, and participate in flamewars.

The assumptions were not wild, and if you would read, the kittens were
aborted to increase the mother's chance of living. The vet did not deliver
any kittens, most likely because their chances of survival were slim.

~Kelly

Adrian Lane

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Jun 4, 2001, 3:31:14 AM6/4/01
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>Subject: Re: pregnant cat/broken pelvis > advice ?
>From: "Kelly" kros...@uoguelph.ca
>Date: 03/06/01 23:58 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8izS6.76300$r7.10...@news1.busy1.on.home.com>

Then clearly he was not a very good vet. This whole story is discusting as
those kittens could well have been saved.

And you must accept part of the blame for your bad advice - I hope you sleep
tonight.

Bob Brenchley.

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Jun 4, 2001, 2:11:35 PM6/4/01
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:58:12 GMT, "Kelly" <kros...@uoguelph.ca>
wrote:

>
>> >>
>> >> You would be surprised how well protected a kitten is inside the womb.
>> >> I think they stand a very good chance if the vet handles it correctly.
>> >
>> >It depends largely on how far the pregnancy is along. If the kittens
>have
>> >dropped in the womb, they are most likely dead. A force large enough to
>> >blow out the cats pelvis, is surely enough to kill the kittens inside of
>> >her.
>> >Anyway, this is a conversation for alt.pointless.debates because the
>> >origonal poster has already made the decision and had the cat spayed.
>> >
>> >Kelly
>> >
>> Which at this late stage means the vet will deliver the kittens and of
>course
>> will try to save their lives.
>>
>> Your replies were rather silly Kelly, and I think you would have done
>better to
>> learn more about cats before making such wild assumptions.
>
>Whatever you say "Adrian". I was waiting for one of Bob's "accomplices" to
>show up.... don't you think the joke has gone on long enough?

What joke?


>
>You never post advice for people, I only see you in the newsgroups to back
>up your friend Bob, and participate in flamewars.

Adrian often posts advice. If you fail to read that is hardly his
problem.


>
>The assumptions were not wild, and if you would read, the kittens were
>aborted to increase the mother's chance of living. The vet did not deliver
>any kittens, most likely because their chances of survival were slim.

What a heap of sh*t.

Original post "She's due in the next week or so, I doubt she can pass


the babies with the busted pelvis. Broke it last Sunday. About the
only choice seems to be to take the kittens via C-section, though they
won't live, but she'll at least have a chance herself. Then let the
pelvis heal."

So, she was about a week short of term, she busted her pelvis (how she
did that nobody has said). So what? She may not have been able to
deliver normally, but there was no reason to lose the kittens.

When you learn something about cats maybe you can offer some advice,
until then just read.

>
>~Kelly
>
>
--
Bob.

I tell you what, you should be on educational TV, you certainly make
me feel so much smarter..?

WinterKitty7298

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Jun 6, 2001, 2:12:41 PM6/6/01
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"Kelly" <kros...@uoguelph.ca> wrote in message news:<_DtS6.75313$r7.10...@news1.busy1.on.home.com>...

I think the kittens will live. One time, I was going down the highway,
and saw a cat. It looked like she had been thrown, or jumped out of a
car window. I turned around and picked her up. When I got home, I took
her to the vet, he said she was pregnant, and that she injured her
pelvis because of jumping/falling out of a car. When she gave birth,
she delivered just fine, and all of the kittens (3) lived.

Bob Brenchley.

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Jun 6, 2001, 4:54:50 PM6/6/01
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On 6 Jun 2001 11:12:41 -0700, WinterKi...@aol.com
(WinterKitty7298) wrote:

>I think the kittens will live. One time, I was going down the highway,
>and saw a cat. It looked like she had been thrown, or jumped out of a
>car window. I turned around and picked her up. When I got home, I took
>her to the vet, he said she was pregnant, and that she injured her
>pelvis because of jumping/falling out of a car. When she gave birth,
>she delivered just fine, and all of the kittens (3) lived.


We all seem to agree on this, except if seems the owner and Kelly.

--
Bob.

There are two rules for ultimate success in life.
The first is - Never tell everything you know.

Kelly

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Jun 7, 2001, 4:47:43 PM6/7/01
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"Bob Brenchley." <B...@Format.Publications.ukf.net> wrote in message
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> On 6 Jun 2001 11:12:41 -0700, WinterKi...@aol.com
> (WinterKitty7298) wrote:
>
> >I think the kittens will live. One time, I was going down the highway,
> >and saw a cat. It looked like she had been thrown, or jumped out of a
> >car window. I turned around and picked her up. When I got home, I took
> >her to the vet, he said she was pregnant, and that she injured her
> >pelvis because of jumping/falling out of a car. When she gave birth,
> >she delivered just fine, and all of the kittens (3) lived.
>
>
> We all seem to agree on this, except if seems the owner and Kelly.

And a professional, a vet. Go figure!

Kelly

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