Can I feed a kitten dry food only?
TC
Can I feed her strictly dry cat foods?
Are there any consequences to consider?
East Rockaway, NY
Nautilus
over to Eukanuba dry. I wouldn't feed any grocery store dry foods. Some
of my adult cats like dry and some like wet but most of them eat a small
serving of wet per day and supplement with the Iams. My cats vary from
working barn cats to house pets and some show and breeding stock. The only
thing about the two cats I have who refuse any dry food at all is that their
teeth need cleaning more often. Of course, I brush them myself, but this is
a notable difference in those two cats. Jacque
TC wrote in message <373F770B...@optonline.net>...
Linda McCarthy
just dry. I have four cats and all of them only eat dry food on a daily
basis. I give them wet food as a "snack" once a week. All of them are
perfectly healthy kitties :)
Linda
Cari & Paul
Diet and Iams.. progressing from the Kitten formula to the adult cat
formula. They love both and we have never had a health problem with
them in the two years that they have owned us :) A cat can't get
anything from wet food that it can't get from a good dry food. And dry
food is better for their teeth anyway!
IMHO
Cari
konengro
I certainly agree with Cari that the hard kibble is better, but at
seven weeks, your kitten is going to have a pretty tender digestive
system. I'd provide her both, and wean her off the wet stuff over a
month or two.
One of the greatest benefits of the dry kibble is that it keeps teeth
clean, and your kitten isn't even going to have her adult teeth quite
yet.
Regards,
--
Paul F. Hoff Milton, WA kone...@worldnet.att.net
*Stutsbear and the Bionic Busboy* Lithodendron, 1996
http://home.att.net/~konengro/stories.htm
Cari & Paul
I feel like a dope.. I hadn't caught the 7 week old part the first time
I read the original post :/ By all means.. wet food.. or water
moistened hard food.
Feeling silly,
Cari
hbfb
decrease the water over a few weeks until VOILA! Your kitty is eating dry.
Canned food, even the best ones, have only ever given my cats diarrhea.High
quality dry is definitely better for their teeth.
best of luck with your baby,
hbfb
Shandrell
TC <tc...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> I have a seven week old female kitten in good health.
> Can I feed her strictly dry cat foods?
> Are there any consequences to consider?
>
> East Rockaway, NY
I have only ever given my kittens and cats dry food, for the kitty it was
dry kitten food, I don't tend to give wet food because I find the ash
content way to high
Shandrell
Akasha
As long as your kitten is able to crunch up the food and eat enough of it to
sustain her weight and keep growing then dry food should be just fine.
Please, please make sure you are feeding a high quality dry kitten food
though! Not food for adults, and not junk brands. Kitten food has a higher
nutrient, protein, and fat content which is very important for growing
kittens. Especially since they eat less! You need to make every bite count!
Keep your kitten on kitten food until she's a year old, and then switch to a
high quality adult cat food.
I have a whole bunch of cat foods listed on my web site. You can go there
and compare different foods and find one that you like if you haven't
already! The URL is listed below, just click on links once you get to the
main page and then Cat Food Nutrition.
--
Liz and the Brat Pack:
Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Suki, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Fuki,
Tiberius, Hai-Lee, Sundae, Guiness, & Pandora!!!
Visit my NEW WEB SITE!!! (Thanks Larry! :)
TC wrote in message <373F770B...@optonline.net>...
Richard Huelbig
the little one becomes an adult. Too much of the bad stuff in pure dry food.
Also, spend the extra money (not that much, really) and buy your friend good
quality cat food. Look for low ASH content, and low MAGNESIUM (especially
important if your kitten is a male). Please don't take my word as gospel--I
would ask your vet for guidance on diet. My vet provided me with a list of
good, better, and best foods, dry and wet, grocery store bought, and pet
store bought. I think you'll find better foods at pet stores.
Rich
TC <tc...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Akasha
food? To the best of my knowledge, things like ash and magnesium are
generally considered the "Bad stuff" as well as preservative and fillers.
Wet food usually has just as much of everything!
--
Liz and the Brat Pack:
Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Suki, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Fuki,
Tiberius, Hai-Lee, Sundae, Guiness, & Pandora!!!
Visit my NEW WEB SITE!!! (Thanks Larry! :)
Richard Huelbig wrote in message <7hqja9$l...@world5.bellatlantic.net>...
konengro
> > Another idiot... Listen dimwit. A cat is a carnivore. If you don't
> > believe me read a book on cats, and check out the dental structure. It
> > requires meat. Of course it will eat that dried kibble shit if it has
> > nothing else. So would you. Of course if you're so callous and unfeeling
> > or cheap to provide it with the food and care that it deserves, then you
> > ought to give up your pet. Here's an idea. YOU try living permanently on
> > a diet of dried oily toast and water, and report on how you like it.
> > It's good for your teeth.
Dan Rusen, Dan Rusen. I knew that name rang a bell.
<You've been a bad boy, Dan. *spat* *spat* *spat*>
I realized it when I got up this morning
<*spat* *spat* Take that, you kinky cowboy>
I apologize. You're not a troll. At least, you don't claim to be a troll
and you say you like cats. It's an embarrassment to us cat lovers,
really, because you don't have the grace, the intelligence, or even the
credibility of the trolls we've seen lately.
<*spat* *spat* Wicked, wicked, Dan. Do you want me to get the Big Boy?
Do you?>
You've been around before, haven't you? You hurled your anger and vitrol
at several really nice folks around here. That was when one- was it
Shandrell? Or Bugsy?- investigated you and revealed your naughty little
kink. You like to be spanked to get your- shall we say satisfaction? You
devil.
<*spat* *spata* *spat* Bad, bad boy.>
I've tried to explain to our trolls that with "cat lovers" like you
around, they really haven't got a prayer. I hope they don't follow your
example. In fact, I doubt that they will. The cocky belligerence we see
from our trolls is only that; it's another word for independence from
their parents, their youth, their uncertainty. Our trolls, in short, are
kids going through one of the toughest parts of life that I've ever
encountered, and I'm inclined to cut them slack for that. There's
defiance, belligerence, even anger in their words. Rarely, though, is
there real malice.
I see little from you but malice and it hurts.
I hope you're not too angry with me for saying all this, Dan, and for
exposing your kinky tastes.
I hope you'll do the right thing.
<patapatapatapatapatapata>
I hope you'll turn the other cheek.
Dan Rusen
>
> Dan Rusen wrote:
> >
>
> > Another idiot... Listen dimwit. A cat is a carnivore. If you don't
> > believe me read a book on cats, and check out the dental structure. It
> > requires meat. Of course it will eat that dried kibble shit if it has
> > nothing else. So would you. Of course if you're so callous and unfeeling
> > or cheap to provide it with the food and care that it deserves, then you
> > ought to give up your pet. Here's an idea. YOU try living permanently on
> > a diet of dried oily toast and water, and report on how you like it.
> > It's good for your teeth.
> >
> > Dan
>
> such passionately expressed feelings about cat kibble.
> Oh, I get it. You're a troll, aren't you? Of course you are. Isn't it
> past your bedtime, son?
Yes. I am a troll; and I delight in trolling for twits like you. in
addition to that I am a true car lover having owned six of them over 30
years. So off you go Grandpa - it's GERITOL time.
Dan Rusen
Dan Rusen
>
> > Dan Rusen wrote:
> > > Another idiot... Listen dimwit. A cat is a carnivore. If you don't
> > > believe me read a book on cats, and check out the dental structure. It
> > > requires meat. Of course it will eat that dried kibble shit if it has
>
> --
> Paul F. Hoff Milton, WA kone...@worldnet.att.net
> *Stutsbear and the Bionic Busboy* Lithodendron, 1996
> http://home.att.net/~konengro/stories.htm
Listen to me Paulie boy:
Whatever my kink is, what I do is always consensual with adults who can
defend themselves, and speak up when something is amiss... unlike you
who thinks a cat should subsist on crunchies. I treat my pets with care
and concern not only for their nutrition, but for their enjoyment of
food as well.
And yes it was I who exposed Buggsy and Shandrell and Karen too as the
neurotic Kommandants of cat concentration camps in which these 'pets'
don't get to see the feel the warmth of the sun or breath fresh air or
eat grass or smell the growing earth.
Yes I am a proud troll, constantly on the prowl for fools like them and
you, anxious to show the world what neurotic phonies you are.
The malice that you see from me is generated by the kind of putdown that
you have just levelled at me. It hurts? Awww shucks Paulie. Use your
killfile; then I can criticize you on the ng as the vengeful moron you
are without having to argue the point.
Danny Boy
Richard Huelbig
Please don't think that I'm pretending to be an expert on the subject of cat
food, I only relay some of the information that my vet provided to me, and I
would always suggest that anyone consult their vet to confirm anything they
heard in a newsgroup. As for the "bad stuff" I did mean the preservatives,
fillers, magnesium, and ash. Although I'm not sure of the preservatives and
fillers, I am quite certain that dry food (in general) has a higher
magnesium and ash content than wet food. Also, from what I know, stones that
may develop because of high magnesium and ash levels are more prevalent in
male cats.
Another responder to this thread mentioned that dry food keeps their cat's
teeth cleaner. I agree with that and I think that dry food does indeed keep
tartar down but most cats should have their teeth cleaned anyway, just as
humans do, from time to time.
I think we can only do the best that we can for our pets. With all of the
information I've gotten from my vet and other sources I've decided that for
my male cat (Munchkin) that I'll feed him dry food in the morning and wet
food in the evening. This way my little guy gets a bit of variety; he gets
the wet food with the low magnesium and ash in the evening and I can remove
any dried out leftovers after an hour or so, and he gets some dry food
before I go to work--that way he can munch on his food all day long and the
food will not spoil.
I know this is getting long, but I've read in cat magazines that wet food
should not be left out for more than an hour or so--if left out longer it
tends to dry up and may cause digestive problems for your cat. Also, an
important thing to watch is that the cat is not overfed. Kitty obesity is a
problem, especially for indoor-only cats. I know I'm crazy, but after I
picked up Munchkin at the shelter I bought a simple "people" scale and I try
to maintain the correct calorie intake for a cat of his weight.
Forgive me if I've been long-winded. Again, the best advice you can get is
from your vet.
Take care ......
Rich Huelbig
P.S. The bad part about buying the scale to weigh Munchkin is that now I
know all too well how much I weigh. I ought to be as careful with my diet as
I am with my cat's!
P.S.S. As if I have not gone on long enough--to the original poster of this
thread, please keep in mind that there are high-quality and low-quality dry
foods as well as high- and low-quality wet foods.
konengro
>
> you have just levelled at me. It hurts? Awww shucks Paulie. Use yo
Dan, I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but listen up. This one is on me.
To say it hurts isn't to say I'm bleeding on the floor because you're so
mean; it's a simple observation. When somebody is rude it hurts; when it
hurts, we get angry; angry, we respond in kind. Of course, we all
conceal the hurt behind the anger, pride being what it is. There's no
arterial bleeding here, Dan. I don't (if you haven't realized) even like
you, and you haven't the intelligence or character to cause me any real
distress.
I'm not angry with you. You're not that important. You, on the other
hand, jumped into a cordial, helpful thread with bitter insults and vile
condemnation. So much anger, and completely unprovoked. You must hurt
terribly to act as you do. It's sad, really.
You can change if you chose. Think about it, Dan.
konengro
>
> Hi Akasha,
>
> Please don't think that I'm pretending to be an expert on the subject of cat
> food, I only relay some of the information that my vet provided to me, and I
> would always suggest that anyone consult their vet to confirm anything they
> heard in a newsgroup. As for the "bad stuff" I did mean the preservatives,
> fillers, magnesium, and ash. Although I'm not sure of the preservatives and
> fillers, I am quite certain that dry food (in general) has a higher
> magnesium and ash content than wet food. Also, from what I know, stones that
> may develop because of high magnesium and ash levels are more prevalent in
> male cats.
>
> information I've gotten from my vet and other sources I've decided that for
> my male cat (Munchkin) that I'll feed him dry food in the morning and wet
> food in the evening. This way my little guy gets a bit of variety; he gets
> the wet food with the low magnesium and ash in the evening and I can remove
> any dried out leftovers after an hour or so, and he gets some dry food
> before I go to work--that way he can munch on his food all day long and the
> food will not spoil.
Rich-
As an anecdotal confirmation, when we gave our Bob tarter control
treats, he swallowed them whole. He does, however, crunch down his
kibble.
Cats have a carnivore's jaws- they don't rotate in the manner of
ruminants and featherless bipeds, who need that motion (and big,
broad-faced molars) to grind fibrous vegetables. That does suggest that
kibble isn't going to do as well as it might with, say, rabbits.
I did want to ask you this, though, and I hope its not too fine a
point. When you say that the ash content is higher in dry food, are you
recognizing that wet food is fifty percent (or more) water? If you don't
allow for the water, then wet food is going to have less of everything,
except, of course, moisture.
*frown* Does that make sense?
Regards,
Dan Rusen
>
> Cari & Paul wrote:
> >
> > From the day I got my two kitties I have fed them nothing but Science
> > Diet and Iams.. progressing from the Kitten formula to the adult cat
> > formula. They love both and we have never had a health problem with
> > them in the two years that they have owned us :) A cat can't get
> > anything from wet food that it can't get from a good dry food. And dry
> > food is better for their teeth anyway!
> > Cari
>
> I certainly agree with Cari that the hard kibble is better, but at
> seven weeks, your kitten is going to have a pretty tender digestive
> system. I'd provide her both, and wean her off the wet stuff over a
> month or two.
> One of the greatest benefits of the dry kibble is that it keeps teeth
> clean, and your kitten isn't even going to have her adult teeth quite
> yet.
> Regards,
Another idiot... Listen dimwit. A cat is a carnivore. If you don't
believe me read a book on cats, and check out the dental structure. It
requires meat. Of course it will eat that dried kibble shit if it has
Dan Rusen
>
> I think it's okay with a kitten, but I would not keep up that regiment after
> the little one becomes an adult. Too much of the bad stuff in pure dry food.
> Also, spend the extra money (not that much, really) and buy your friend good
> quality cat food. Look for low ASH content, and low MAGNESIUM (especially
> important if your kitten is a male). Please don't take my word as gospel--I
> would ask your vet for guidance on diet. My vet provided me with a list of
> good, better, and best foods, dry and wet, grocery store bought, and pet
> store bought. I think you'll find better foods at pet stores.
> Rich
>
FINALLY, amongst all the neurotic catlovin' cheapskates, the voice of
sensibility is heard. Even in the worst jails offenders get more than
bread and water.
Dan
konengro
>
> Another idiot... Listen dimwit. A cat is a carnivore. If you don't
> believe me read a book on cats, and check out the dental structure. It
> requires meat. Of course it will eat that dried kibble shit if it has
> nothing else. So would you. Of course if you're so callous and unfeeling
> or cheap to provide it with the food and care that it deserves, then you
> ought to give up your pet. Here's an idea. YOU try living permanently on
> a diet of dried oily toast and water, and report on how you like it.
> It's good for your teeth.
>
> Dan
Who are you, Dan, and what is this about? I don't think I've ever seen
such passionately expressed feelings about cat kibble.
Oh, I get it. You're a troll, aren't you? Of course you are. Isn't it
past your bedtime, son?
--
Marlene
When I had to switch one of my kitties over to a special prescription
diet of canned only due to his history with FLUTD, (it is recommended
that cats with a history of urinary obstruction be fed canned diet as it
is high water content, and helps to prevent further obstruction), I was
obviously concerned about his teeth, and asked the vet what this would
do to his dental health.
Interestingly enough, my vet stated that there have been some studies
done recently which lean towards the theory that a lot of cats don't
chew their food properly anyways, but rather swallow it almost whole.
It is believed that many cats are very poor chewers, and therefore the
dental benefits of feeding dry food are sometimes exaggerated in these
cats.
Just an interesting piece of info that I discovered while at my vets
that I thought I would share. :o)
Marlene
Linda McCarthy
> > As for the "bad stuff" I did mean the preservatives,
> >fillers, magnesium, and ash. Although I'm not sure of the preservatives and
> >fillers, I am quite certain that dry food (in general) has a higher
> >magnesium and ash content than wet food.
>
> over canned unless there is a specific need for a special diet.
I am glad you added that. When I read that post, I thought to myself,
isn't it the other way around? But I am certainly not a cat food expert,
so I didn't want to post and look like an idiot. <g>
Linda
Dan Rusen
>
> I'm not angry with you. You're not that important. You, on the other
> hand, jumped into a cordial, helpful thread with bitter insults and vile
> condemnation. So much anger, and completely unprovoked. You must hurt
> terribly to act as you do. It's sad, really.
> You can change if you chose. Think about it, Dan.
> --
OK Paulie, you're right. I hurt terribly, I'm a victim of social angst.
Feel sad for me. From now on I promise never to do anything to piss you
off. I'm gonna join a monastery and mend my ways.
You on the other hand should go on feeling morally superior because you
have a mission in life - to rule a news group. I just feel sad for your
cats, raised as they are with cardboard food instead of meat.
Dan, signing off for another 2 months or so....
Morticia
Dan Rusen wrote in message <3742D77F...@home.com>...
I agree Dan,he does sound a little too upset for a discussion over DRY
CAT FOOD.We're not talking world politics here Paul.Lighten up.Everyone
is entitled to their own opinion and being as this is an open
forum,everyone should be able to speak their mind withour
recriminations fron the likes of you.If you have a *personal* problem
with Dan,perhaps you should take it to email,like a good little boy..or
perhaps you like to see your holier than thou words up on the little
white screen?
And before you reply..I have fed nothing but dry food to my cats and
dogs all their lives with no ill effects (and with alot less tooth
damage than there would have been with canned - so sayeth my vet). I
have never had any cat or dog with teeth problems before so maybe he was
right.I feel that if a cat or dog doesn't know any better,then it won't
feel it's missing out on anything.And furthermore a cat in the wild
would probably eat nothing but small rodents(raw meat)all it's
life.Would that be cruel and unusual punishment as well?I'm not sticking
up for Dan about his beliefs in the dry vs canned debate,I'm sticking up
for him because you are singling him out for your tirade of the week.
Thank you one and all for reading this long post.
konengro
> You on the other hand should go on feeling morally superior because you
LOL! Dan, I *am* morally superior to you. I've seen things in the
litterbox morally superior to you. Please.
st...@direct.ca
Morticia wrote in message <92714935...@news.remarQ.com>...
>
>
>Dan Rusen wrote in message <3742D77F...@home.com>...
>>konengro wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not angry with you. You're not that important. You, on
>the other
>>> hand, jumped into a cordial, helpful thread with bitter insults and
>vile
>>> condemnation. So much anger, and completely unprovoked. You must hurt
>>> terribly to act as you do. It's sad, really.
>>> You can change if you chose. Think about it, Dan.
>>> --
>>
>>OK Paulie, you're right. I hurt terribly, I'm a victim of social angst.
>>Feel sad for me. From now on I promise never to do anything to piss you
>>off. I'm gonna join a monastery and mend my ways.
>>
>>cats, raised as they are with cardboard food instead of meat.
>>
>>
>>Dan, signing off for another 2 months or so....
>
>I agree Dan,he does sound a little too upset for a discussion over DRY
>CAT FOOD.We're not talking world politics here Paul.Lighten up.Everyone
>is entitled to their own opinion and being as this is an open
>forum,everyone should be able to speak their mind withour
>recriminations fron the likes of you.If you have a *personal* problem
>with Dan,perhaps you should take it to email,like a good little boy..or
>perhaps you like to see your holier than thou words up on the little
>white screen?
>And before you reply..I have fed nothing but dry food to my cats and
>dogs all their lives with no ill effects (and with alot less tooth
>damage than there would have been with canned - so sayeth my vet). I
>have never had any cat or dog with teeth problems before so maybe he was
>right.I feel that if a cat or dog doesn't know any better,then it won't
>feel it's missing out on anything.And furthermore a cat in the wild
>would probably eat nothing but small rodents(raw meat)all it's
>life.Would that be cruel and unusual punishment as well?I'm not sticking
>up for Dan about his beliefs in the dry vs canned debate,I'm sticking up
>for him because you are singling him out for your tirade of the week.
>Thank you one and all for reading this long post.
Alright lady.....who are you and what did you do to Morticia?.....hehehe
Tara Lammé
your argument *is* kind of silly. Both my cats have been fed dry Purina
Cat Chow since they were about 8 or 9 weeks old. The oldest is 9 years old
now, and the other just turned 1. My vet has always recommended dry Purina
(And it's even from the grocery store!). Most of the vets we have seen
have scorned wet, canned cat food because it does cause build-up on their
teeth. I don't think feeding dry cat food to cats is cruel at all. Both
my cats are very active, friendly, and healthy, and I adore them. I highly
doubt they're all that disappointed with their dry food. They don't
*require* meat. The Purina provides them with all the nutrition they need.
Even their treats are dry, save for the rare occasions we give them a
table scrap of chicken or let them lick ice cream, etc. They've never had
any health problems at all. I am definitely not "callous" or "unfeeling"
for feeding my cats dry food. I'm also not cheap, just because I don't buy
them gourmet canned cat food. Oh wait, I buy the bargain brand litter. I
guess I'm not providing my cats with the care they deserve.
Tara
Dan Rusen <danr...@home.com> wrote in article
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Peter Tilbrook
Do NOT solely feed your cats on DRY FOOD (ie: Whiskettes)!
Reason: they do become addicted and pretty much refuse to eat anything else.
Even when proper "wet" food such as cat food, you know, chunky fish,
sardines and tuna, etc.
The point is they DO become addicted to the "biccies".
Particularly for the males it can chrystalize in their bladder - meaning
they cannot even do a wee (or pee).
I've seen it twice. The cates become addicted to the dry biscuits and will
eat nothing but. It can be a battle but treat the biccies as a treat - NOT
as a main meal.
I've already buried "Felix" who died suddenly on the way to the vet. And I
mean SUDDENLY.
If you love your cats as much as my partner and I do. Restrict the biccie
feed, ensure they always have clean and fresh water, and make sure they have
proper cat food too!
Have too cats after Felix: Mel Gibson (usually "Mel), and "Snowy". Love them
both.
Talk to me please - webm...@dynamite.com.au Cheers!
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Shandrell
Morticia <web...@extremities.com> wrote in message
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Hi Morticia, I'm not sure how long you have been coming here, I but if you
have a way to back track the NG you will find our dear Dan was here before
and was rude crude and very abusive, he choose not to respond logically but
rather with name calling, as he has proven once again by his statement
concerning not only myself but a few other people
"> And yes it was I who exposed Buggsy and Shandrell and Karen too as the
> neurotic Kommandants of cat concentration camps in which these 'pets'
> don't get to see the feel the warmth of the sun or breath fresh air or
> eat grass or smell the growing earth."
He did this with out me even responding to his post, he does not know me nor
has he ever laid eyes on my cats yet he chose for what ever reason to once
again insult me. To be honest I really do not give a damn what he thinks of
me, but I refuse to be names by him yet again as you will see in my post to
him. If Dan wants to talk reasonable then hey I will do that but the way I
feel today one good blast deserves another. It is now up to him as to
whether or not this continues.
And please Morticia try and see some of his past posts say a few months ago
before you judge those of us who had to put up with his crap.
Shandrell
Shandrell
> And yes it was I who exposed Buggsy and Shandrell and Karen too as the
Oh tough boy is back, at least I stuck around. Unlike you who crawled away
with his very very short tail between his legs. Just for the record I would
not have even responded to this thread however, YOU brought my name into it,
now do me a favor and stop. With the exception of the odd juvenile troll it
has been nice around here why not just chill? And before you go all saying
konengro started it, I realize that it was konengro, who originally brought
up my nick but he/she didn't use it in a nasty way. As I have stated you
pompous ill mannered ass you do not know me so don't even try to assume you
know how I live. Now run along little boy and get a real life. I have in the
past tried very hard to ignore you and only responded a little bit, trust me
I can flame with the best of em, in fact the only reason I stopped was out
of respect to those who use this NG as it was intended. Now you little
pissant go f*ck yourself and leave me alone. Oh and about the comment my
cats don't get to feel the sun and earth stuff, they are outdoor cats,
proving once again you know Sh*t
Shandrell
Dan Rusen
>
> I hate to continue this argument, but Dan, I just want to point out that your argument *is* kind of silly. I don't think feeding dry cat food to cats is cruel at all. I am definitely not "callous" or "unfeeling" for feeding my cats dry food. I'm also not cheap, just because I don't buy> them gourmet canned cat food.
> Tara
>
Tara, and the rest of you dry food meanies:
First, who said anything about canned wet cat food (although my cats
always liked it once in a while)? I said MEAT as in real beef or turkey
or chicken or fish.
Some African natives believe that smearing animal dung in their hair is
dood for it. Some Chinese think rhino horn is good for masculinity.
Other places in Arabia and the middle east believe a girl isn't a woman
until she's been circumcized. Here there are people who believe in
channelling, psychics, and the respectability of government officials.
If you want to believe that cats should be happy living on that
cardboard all their lives; or being cooped up indoors too - then go on
believing it. I am through here.
Dan Rusen
Dan Rusen
Linda McCarthy
WET cat food. I advise you educate yourself before you go calling people
names.
Linda
Marlene
Ash is no longer considered to be the cause of crystals. There are no
definitive studies that prove this. Crystals are believed to be formed
due to an alkaline PH in the urine. My cat was switched to a
prescription CANNED diet after being diagnosed with FLUTD (Feline Lower
Urinary Tract Disease). The name of the diet was Waltham's S/O PH
CONTROL. My vet told me it was very important to feed canned food to
ensure he was getting enough water - as urinary blockages are often a
result of inadequate water intake. The more common causes of urinary
blockages include uroliths (stones), struvite crystals and calcium
oxalate crystals.
The following excerpt is taken from Dr. Wendell O. Bellfield's web site:
During the 1970's, veterinary experts discovered that these crystals are
composed of magnesium ammonium phosphate. This led to the development
of
the "low ash" concept -- preventing FLUTD by reducing magnesium
compounds in the diet. More recently, scientists dispelled this theory
by actually
adding magnesium chloride to the daily diet of cats. They found that
it was not
the magnesium itself, but the alkaline quality of some cats' urine
that allowed the
crystals to form. In cats with acidic (not alkaline) urine, crystals
did not
develop. The acidic urine dissolved existing crystals and prevented
the
formation of new ones.
The following excerpt was taken from a study done by the Ohio State
University Veterinary Hospital:
In the presence of macroscopic
crystalluria, increasing water intake to dilute the urine is indicated.
Although crystalluria is usually benign,
severe crystalluria may aggravate an already- inflamed bladder. In a
recent study, we found that nearly 60%
of cats ate 100 % dry cat food; an additional 17% ate 75% or more dry
food as their total daily intake.
Compared to all cats, this is a disproportionate amount of total food
intake as dry food. This does not mean
that dry food consumption causes IC, but it could be that dry food
consumption unmasks or aggravates the
disorder in cats that are predisposed to it (making IC a
nutrient-sensitive rather than a diet-induced
disease). Consequently, we recommend either adding water to the dry food
or changing to canned foods if
this is feasible for the owner and the cat, particularly if the patient
is a male cat (because of the risk of
urethral obstruction in males). Benefits of increased water intake could
include dilution of any noxious
substances in urine, more frequent urination to decrease bladder contact
time with urine, and removal of any
excess crystals.
I hope this dispels the common misconception that ASH causes crystals.
Linda McCarthy
Then they should change the text books for veterinary school. I am
currently schooling to become a veterinary technician and I checked my
textbook for this before I posted. And it says that wet food is what
causes the crystals due to ash content. I will have to get ahold of
whoever makes these books and have them look into it.
Linda
p.s. If the books are wrong, I am sorry if I stepped on any toes.
Marlene
This was a theory held back in the 70's.
hbfb
the~~~snif~~~ walkaway.
Before you start criticizing, perhaps you should research the ingredients of
some premium cat foods.
hbfb
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Peter Tilbrook <webm...@dynamite.com.au> wrote in message
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> Fools!
First off I am not a fool, nice way to start your point you will get oh so
much respect...NOT
> Do NOT solely feed your cats on DRY FOOD (i.e.: Whiskettes)!
I feed my cats only dry because I find wet food has way to much ash in it.
> Reason: they do become addicted and pretty much refuse to eat anything
else.
> Even when proper "wet" food such as cat food, you know, chunky fish,
> sardines and tuna, etc.
My cats LOVE tuna just open a can and see the stamped so your statement
above is wrong. Mind you I get the same stamped for dry food with them, and
hey they eat birds as well, so I guess the dry food hasn't gotten hold of
their little addicted minds yet, only been <in one cats case> 8 years on dry
food.
> The point is they DO become addicted to the "biccies".
I have no idea what this stuff you mention "biccies" is please let me know.
> I've seen it twice. The cates become addicted to the dry biscuits and will
> eat nothing but. It can be a battle but treat the biccies as a treat - NOT
> as a main meal.
I think this is where you confused me, do you mean dry cat food as in all
dry cat food ie Purina or do you mean treats in your above statement you say
"DRY FOOD" please clear up this, for if you mean treats then my apologies,
however if you mean regular dry cat food then what I wrote sticks.
> I've already buried "Felix" who died suddenly on the way to the vet. And I
> mean SUDDENLY.
Sorry for your lose.
> If you love your cats as much as my partner and I do. Restrict the biccie
> feed, ensure they always have clean and fresh water, and make sure they
have
> proper cat food too!
Once again I have never even heard of biccie, and what do you consider
proper cat food, as I said I feed my cats dry food and yeah lots of water,
so I am unclear as to your idea of "normal"
>
> Have too cats after Felix: Mel Gibson (usually "Mel), and "Snowy". Love
them
> both.
I also love my three cats Chi-Chi, Shanara, and Kitara
Shandrell
PS
Chessfreak
the baby is only one and a half. Dry food seems to have been fine for my
cats.
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>
> Linda,
> Ash is no longer considered to be the cause of crystals. There are no
> definitive studies that prove this. Crystals are believed to be formed
> due to an alkaline PH in the urine. My cat was switched to a
> prescription CANNED diet after being diagnosed with FLUTD (Feline Lower
> Urinary Tract Disease). The name of the diet was Waltham's S/O PH
> CONTROL. My vet told me it was very important to feed canned food to
> ensure he was getting enough water - as urinary blockages are often a
> result of inadequate water intake. The more common causes of urinary
> blockages include uroliths (stones), struvite crystals and calcium
> oxalate crystals.
>
> The following excerpt is taken from Dr. Wendell O. Bellfield's web site:
>
> University Veterinary Hospital:
Marlene-
This is fascinating stuff. Who is Wendell Bellfield? Can you give us
his website? Do you have anything else that's readily accessible? Does
Ohio State Vet Hospital have a site? What does Cornell say about this?
Is that enough questions?
Much of what you said is not common knowledge, and I think there are a
lot of people here who would find more information useful. I sure would.
The issue, though, is whether a kibble-only diet is adequate and
wholesome. I've never known a vet to take much of a stand one way or
another, though most will point out the business with teeth. Dry kibble
will abrade the teeth somewhat, cleaning them; wet food will leave them
all slimed with a rich soup for bacteria to grow on. I don't doubt your
vet urged wet food for your critter, prone to FLUTD. Any source of
moisture is a benefit in that situation. I'm not certain, though, that
the amount of water in canned food is going to make a critical
difference, and none at all in a healthy cat. When our Mandatory was
diagnosed with beginning chronic renal failure, our vet gave her a
special diet- of kibble. What he did suggest was more water bowls, and a
water fountain (since many cats have difficulty drinking from still
water.) Mandy has a waterbowl right next to her catbed, and that alone
has increased her drinking remarkably. Fountain is on order.
But back to the wet food/dry food issue. If you accept that dry food is
indeed better for their teeth (or conversely that wet food causes more
dental problems) then there are health consequences beyond that to weigh
against the risk of urinary problems. Dental problems have been
implicated in such things as liver, kidney, and even heart problems; a
low grade gum or tooth infection can compromise all sorts of stuff and
lead to grave problems in itself.
Given that, wet food isn't a clear winner. I think my inclination would
be, like the vets I've talked to, a mild endorsement of the kibble as
the staple diet.
Regards,
konengro
>
> Wow - those are a lot of questions. I'll post the following sites for
> you. Please keep in mind that according to many vets, dry food does not
> necessarily mean better dental health. Recent studies have shown that a
> lot of cats are not good "chewers", therefore the abrasive action
> provided by chewing dry kibble is negligible in a lot of these "poor
> chewers".
I don't think any cats are good chewers- their jaws don't rotate (or
masticate) the way ruminants do. I would guess, also considering what
Michelle said regarding food remnants, that the kibble might have only a
slight edge over wet in that respect. Probably the only way anyone can
keep their teeth healthy is to stop eating, and that has other
consequences.
My own knee-jerk response has been to recommend kibble, with
occaisional treats (which is what our critters get; the treats extend to
Mandatory with her CRF problem, which is doing very well for a 16 year
old.) I might have to reexamine the whole thing, our critters included.
It's been a while since I've seen such and intelligent, good-willed and
lively discussion here, even if it is about chow. Thanks for the info,
Marlene. I promise to chew before I swallow.
Linda McCarthy
tech and my textbooks say that wet food is the primary source for
crystals. My vet also told me this and said that it is much better to
feed your cats plain dry food with wet food as an occasional snack. My
brothers cat had crystals and bladder stones and his vet said the same
thing. He actually prescribed his cat a diet of nothing but dry food.
So, when did the theory of dry food causing crystals come? I had never
heard of that before this ng.
Even without the whole crystals/bladderstones thing, I still feel it is
healthier to feed my cats nothing but dry food. One, for the dental
reason. My mothers cat had bad teeth and I know what kind of hell he
went through. And also because one of my cats was overweight. My vet
told me that I should not feed him wet food on a daily basis because it
is contributing to his obesity. (On top of being the main cause of
crystals)
Hmmmm...
Linda
Michelle, LVT
<kone...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Hi Paul,
I just wanted to add one teeny weeny correction here... I've posted
this before, but it's actually a misconception that dry food will
significantly aid in good dental health. Yes, dry food does add an
abrasive factor that becomes important when considering healthy
exercise for the gums (if chewed), but it actually doesn't really do a
significant amount of "cleaning" teeth of plaque when compared to wet
food (unless, of course, a specific "dental diet" is considered, such
as Hills T/D) Dry food particles caught in and between teeth will
soften and act much in the same way that pre-moistened (canned) food
does in terms of dental conditions. In terms of dental health, it's
more important to maintain regular cleaning schedules (preferrably
beginning in the home with dental brushing of some sort) than what
type of food is fed. Though some people do advocate the use of bones
for dental cleaning purposes, keep in mind that there are other
factors that are detrimental to dental health when feeding bones, such
as premature wearing and consequent cavities in areas where the enamal
is worn off and not given enough chance to replace.
As for whether dry or wet food is fed in general, depending on the
brand/manufacturer, the health of the pet, and any pre-existing
conditions, feeding dry or wet are fine. Of course, as you mentioned,
when feeding dry, it's important to monitor that enough water intake
is being maintained, especially when monitoring medical conditions
such as FLUTD. Canned food is about 70% water (dry is ~ 10%), so it's
normal to see less of a water intake with pets fed canned food than
those fed with dry.
As for whether ash, specifically Mg, causes crystals, I believe that
it is a combination of things that contribute to crystal formation,
including pH AND Mg content.
Just my 0.02
Michelle R. Lewis, LVT
To email me just remove the "kitty" from my head.
Marlene
you. Please keep in mind that according to many vets, dry food does not
necessarily mean better dental health. Recent studies have shown that a
lot of cats are not good "chewers", therefore the abrasive action
provided by chewing dry kibble is negligible in a lot of these "poor
chewers".
I do not advocate a strict diet of canned only or dry only. I believe
the decisions have to be made with respect to overall existing health of
the cat. If the cat is prone to FLUTD, it only makes sense to choose a
food high in water content. If the cat is healthy overall, then I see
no reason not to feed a good quality dry food provided sufficient water
is always available. Dry food does NOT cause FLUTD.
Here are some links, some of them advocating the wet food theory and
others discounting it. (I've listed them so you can form your own
opinions).
http://www.ccweb.net/marvistavet/html/body_the_non-obstructed_cat.html
http://nss.vet.ohio-state.edu/Vm%20720/LUT.html#Idiopathic(Interstitial
http://www.belfield.com/bio.html
http://www.ccweb.net/marvistavet/html/body_feline_lower_urinary_tract_dis.html
http://web.vet.cornell.edu/Public/FHC/urinary.htm
http://www.cfainc.org/health/urinary-obstructions.html
http://www.animalnetwork.com/cats/library/nutrition/dental/dental1.asp
I hope these are useful. The last link I included is one regarding
dental health.
> all slimed with a rich soup for bacteria to grow on. I don't doubt your
> vet urged wet food for your critter, prone to FLUTD. Any source of
> moisture is a benefit in that situation. I'm not certain, though, that
> the amount of water in canned food is going to make a critical
> difference, and none at all in a healthy cat. When our Mandatory was
> diagnosed with beginning chronic renal failure, our vet gave her a
> special diet- of kibble. What he did suggest was more water bowls, and a
> water fountain (since many cats have difficulty drinking from still
> water.) Mandy has a waterbowl right next to her catbed, and that alone
> has increased her drinking remarkably. Fountain is on order.
> But back to the wet food/dry food issue. If you accept that dry food is
> indeed better for their teeth (or conversely that wet food causes more
> dental problems) then there are health consequences beyond that to weigh
> against the risk of urinary problems. Dental problems have been
> implicated in such things as liver, kidney, and even heart problems; a
> low grade gum or tooth infection can compromise all sorts of stuff and
> lead to grave problems in itself.
> Given that, wet food isn't a clear winner. I think my inclination would
> be, like the vets I've talked to, a mild endorsement of the kibble as
> the staple diet.
Janene Ballard
Hello,
I remember when I first got our second cat, we asked the vet what was
better for them.....dry or wet food. He told us wet because it's more
digestible, if for no other reason. Since then, we began feeding our
cats a mixture (literally) of dry and wet foods.
Janene
Linda McCarthy wrote:
>
> This is what I don't understand. I am going to school to become a vet
> tech and my textbooks say that wet food is the primary source for
> crystals. My vet also told me this and said that it is much better to
> feed your cats plain dry food with wet food as an occasional snack. My
> brothers cat had crystals and bladder stones and his vet said the same
> thing. He actually prescribed his cat a diet of nothing but dry food.
> So, when did the theory of dry food causing crystals come? I had never
> heard of that before this ng.
>
> Even without the whole crystals/bladderstones thing, I still feel it is
> healthier to feed my cats nothing but dry food. One, for the dental
> reason. My mothers cat had bad teeth and I know what kind of hell he
> went through. And also because one of my cats was overweight. My vet
> told me that I should not feed him wet food on a daily basis because it
> is contributing to his obesity. (On top of being the main cause of
> crystals)
>
> Hmmmm...
>
> Linda
Marlene
with the intention of hopefully being able to learn new things, share
experiences, and hopefully exchange helpful experiences.
I realize that not everyone agrees with me, and I don't necessarily
agree with everyone else either, but the important thing is to be able
to exchange information, and make informed decisions for yourself and
your cats.
:o) Marlene
konengro wrote:
>
> Marlene wrote:
> >
> > Wow - those are a lot of questions. I'll post the following sites for
> > you. Please keep in mind that according to many vets, dry food does not
> > necessarily mean better dental health. Recent studies have shown that a
> > lot of cats are not good "chewers", therefore the abrasive action
> > provided by chewing dry kibble is negligible in a lot of these "poor
> > chewers".
>
> I don't think any cats are good chewers- their jaws don't rotate (or
> masticate) the way ruminants do. I would guess, also considering what
> Michelle said regarding food remnants, that the kibble might have only a
> slight edge over wet in that respect. Probably the only way anyone can
> keep their teeth healthy is to stop eating, and that has other
> consequences.
> My own knee-jerk response has been to recommend kibble, with
> occaisional treats (which is what our critters get; the treats extend to
> Mandatory with her CRF problem, which is doing very well for a 16 year
> old.) I might have to reexamine the whole thing, our critters included.
> It's been a while since I've seen such and intelligent, good-willed and
> lively discussion here, even if it is about chow. Thanks for the info,
> Marlene. I promise to chew before I swallow.
Richard Huelbig
I see that a monster has been created by your simple and thoughtful mesage
about how to best take care of your kitty. Unfortunately, the monster was
fed by my attempt to answer your question. In short, let me suggest to you
that 1) for everyone that responds to a newsgroup post you will receive a
different answer, and 2) the best thing that you can do is find a vet that
you are comfortable with and listen to him/her as to how to best treat your
little friend.
That's about all. I'll keep looking at this thread for fun just to see how
long it continues!!!
Take care and good luck with the kitten!
Rich
konengro
>
> I'll take that as a compliment - thank you. I came to this newsgroup
> with the intention of hopefully being able to learn new things, share
> experiences, and hopefully exchange helpful experiences.
>
> I realize that not everyone agrees with me, and I don't necessarily
> agree with everyone else either, but the important thing is to be able
> to exchange information, and make informed decisions for yourself and
> your cats.
> :o) Marlene
It was intended as a compliment. I agree with you; providing
information is more valuable than making decisions for them.
Cyberfox
>I have a seven week old female kitten in good health.
>Can I feed her strictly dry cat foods?
>Are there any consequences to consider?
>
>East Rockaway, NY
>
Looks like you've received some differing opinions on the subject
here! In my case, I keep my kitty's bowl full of dry food for her to
nibble on any time she likes . I give her a little canned food each
day, but not so much that she won't eat it quickly since I don't want
it to stay out and go bad. She's seven months old and I've always fed
her this way. According to the vet as of last week, kitty is very
healthy. Of course, dry food is less expensive and if that's all you
can afford, then that's what you have to feed them. I, however, am
guilty of spoiling my cat, so I'd feed her some canned food just
because she likes it. :)
donnamayj
should be allowed to go outside, we as humans love to go outdoors, smell the
fresh air, stretch out and play a little. I feel sad for those that arnt
allowed outdoors.
Dan Rusen wrote in message <3741AABF...@home.com>...
>konengro wrote:
>>
>> > Dan Rusen wrote:
>> > > Another idiot... Listen dimwit. A cat is a carnivore. If you don't
>> > > believe me read a book on cats, and check out the dental structure.
It
>> > > requires meat. Of course it will eat that dried kibble shit if it has
>> I hope you'll turn the other cheek.
>>
>> --
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>> http://home.att.net/~konengro/stories.htm
>
>
>
>Whatever my kink is, what I do is always consensual with adults who can
>defend themselves, and speak up when something is amiss... unlike you
>who thinks a cat should subsist on crunchies. I treat my pets with care
>and concern not only for their nutrition, but for their enjoyment of
>food as well.
>
>And yes it was I who exposed Buggsy and Shandrell and Karen too as the
>don't get to see the feel the warmth of the sun or breath fresh air or
>eat grass or smell the growing earth.
>
>you, anxious to show the world what neurotic phonies you are.
>
>The malice that you see from me is generated by the kind of putdown that
>you have just levelled at me. It hurts? Awww shucks Paulie. Use your
>killfile; then I can criticize you on the ng as the vengeful moron you
>are without having to argue the point.
>
>
>Danny Boy
donnamayj
infections later I wised up and and switch to Iams. I am not saying that
Purina will cause your cats to have urinary tract infections, just
cautioning you to the reality that it can happen.
Tara Lammé wrote in message <01bea27c$1491daa0$cd9d9ad0@lamme>...
> I hate to continue this argument, but Dan, I just want to point out that
>your argument *is* kind of silly. Both my cats have been fed dry Purina
>Cat Chow since they were about 8 or 9 weeks old. The oldest is 9 years old
>now, and the other just turned 1. My vet has always recommended dry Purina
>(And it's even from the grocery store!). Most of the vets we have seen
>have scorned wet, canned cat food because it does cause build-up on their
>teeth. I don't think feeding dry cat food to cats is cruel at all. Both
>my cats are very active, friendly, and healthy, and I adore them. I highly
>doubt they're all that disappointed with their dry food. They don't
>*require* meat. The Purina provides them with all the nutrition they need.
> Even their treats are dry, save for the rare occasions we give them a
>table scrap of chicken or let them lick ice cream, etc. They've never had
>any health problems at all. I am definitely not "callous" or "unfeeling"
>for feeding my cats dry food. I'm also not cheap, just because I don't buy
donnamayj
any cat food for a can of tuna, my cats have never ever, passed up a can of
tuna for cat food.
Peter Tilbrook wrote in message <7i0f5r$nru$1...@black.interact.net.au>...
>Fools!
>
>Do NOT solely feed your cats on DRY FOOD (ie: Whiskettes)!
>
>Reason: they do become addicted and pretty much refuse to eat anything
else.
>Even when proper "wet" food such as cat food, you know, chunky fish,
>sardines and tuna, etc.
>
>
>they cannot even do a wee (or pee).
>
>I've seen it twice. The cates become addicted to the dry biscuits and will
>eat nothing but. It can be a battle but treat the biccies as a treat - NOT
>as a main meal.
>
>mean SUDDENLY.
>
>feed, ensure they always have clean and fresh water, and make sure they
have
>proper cat food too!
>
them
>both.
>
>
>
>
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>
> Dan
He's back. Oh, joy. NOT
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> Dan, signing off for another 2 months or so....
Thank You!
Chloe
canned food. About 12 years ago we got a kitten who didn't seem to realize
the canned food was an edible material, and she never has touched the stuff
even though it's always been available. FWIW, she's also never been sick.
Not once.
Jennifer L. Lunt <al...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7hq3g4$hij$1...@nntp8.atl.mindspring.net...
: I don't know of any reason why you couldn't. I have always fed my two
cats
: mainly dry food with an occasional canned cat food treat, and I have had
: them since they were 8 1/2 weeks and 6 weeks old.
:
: Jennifer
:
: TC wrote in message <373F770B...@optonline.net>...
: >I have a seven week old female kitten in good health.
: >
:
Jennifer L. Lunt
only been exposed to dry food. Our first cat didn't seem to realize that
canned food was edibile material, either, the first time that we gave it to
her. We solved the problem by dipping a finger into it and smearing it on
the roof of her mouth. One taste and we haven't had a problem getting her
to eat it since.
Jennifer
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karen bray
the dry cat food with the canned stuff and gradually lessened the amount of
canned food until they were eating only the dry stuff (about 3 weeks). I did
find, though, that they intially preferred the synthesized food which
doesn't have a strong a flavour. Once their taste-buds more fully developed,
I was able to switch them to a more natural-based food.
Good luck.
karen
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have some of both. All wet hastens tooth problems but all dry can lead to
dehydration because they do not usually drink enough water to compensate.
Hazel
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recommended. About mid-year, I start mixing it with a little canned. I've
never heard one of them complain.
Candid Carol
PontiacV8
We feed ours a mixture. For breakfast, they have dry Iams, with a crushed
kitzyme pill in each bowl. For dinner they get to nibble scraps we save from
sunday roast and other meals, and for tea, they normally have wet food, such as
a whiskas single. That way, I think they get a good balance.
On the food subject, I put the leftovers of my roast today down for my
littleun's to clean up, and I found Chelsea eating the carrots? I didn't think
cats liked that kind of thing, but she finished them all off!
Yours. Pont.
abby
even though most people regard them as carnivores. My Molly (aka Gribbles)
loves to eat anything I'm eating, and I've often caught her stealing veggie
slices, rice crackers, nuts, and even bread rolls! Some cat food companies
(including Whiskas) sell casseroles complete with green beans and carrots.
Have you found that by feeding your kids table scraps that it has made them
at all finiky eaters? I've heard that this can happen, but I have not yet
experienced it.
~ Abby
PontiacV8 wrote in message <376D3D97...@BTInternet.com>...
Red Wolf
age I have been feeding my Cat Isis dry food and it hasn't bothered her one
bit and she's 1 years old now. But she does get canned food as a treat as
well.
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"coco2000" <coco...@airmail.net> wrote:
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>>I asked that question of a veterinarian just this week. He said they should
>>have some of both. All wet hastens tooth problems but all dry can lead to
>>dehydration because they do not usually drink enough water to compensate.
>>Hazel
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Layla
abby wrote in message ...
My cat, Boogie, eats a wide variety of things. I usually feed him dry Iams
cat food and 1/4 of a small can of cat food just to give it a little
moisture. I go to work and then come home later, and feed the dogs. Boogie
likes to lick the spoon from the wet dog food that I mix together with their
dry dog food. Then he usually gets a small bite of whatever I am eating. His
favorites are lasagna, pastas, shrimp, fish, crab, lobster and chicken.
And to answer your question, I think it's like the old saying "Variety is
the spice of life". I think cats/people need to eat a variety of things to
be content. Especially when you consider what cats are like in their natural
state. They are pretty much omnivores, and they eat just about anything to
stay alive.
Tara Lammé
Layla <lno...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
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> And to answer your question, I think it's like the old saying "Variety is
> the spice of life". I think cats/people need to eat a variety of things
to
> be content. Especially when you consider what cats are like in their
natural
> state. They are pretty much omnivores, and they eat just about anything
to
> stay alive.
>
>
I agree. It must be boring to eat the same food every day all your life.
Unfortunately, many cats have trouble eating a variety of things after
eating the same type of cat food all the time. Mine tend to get diarrhea
if they eat much more than a morsel of people food. A little bit of ice
cream from a stick is usually okay for them, or a small shred of chicken,
but any more than that, and one poops like crazy, and the other one throws
up... I guess they've got really delicate tummies.
Tara
Jennifer L. Lunt
very specific nutritional requirements which are not met by dog food or most
people food. Some people food such as chocolate and garlic can actually be
toxic to cats. Others, while not toxic, can cause or contribute to
illnesses. Please talk to your vet before giving your cats people food
treats.
Jennifer
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Jennifer L. Lunt
beginning, with an occasional canned food "treat". We got one of them at 8
1/2 weeks of age and the other at 7 weeks of age.
Jennifer
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