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Classic Boatworks of Maine <toy...@acadia.net> wrote in message
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In article <92862364...@news.remarQ.com>, "Classic Boatworks of Maine"
I don't see what is wrong w/coming to a ng to sell your kittens, since
people seem to freak about the "free" ads.
LeeAnne
Larry Himes wrote in message <4wq63.646$m06.1...@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>...
LeeAnne wrote in message <6OT63.10222$S4.4...@news.goodnet.com>...
(Like that promotion of the web site Larry! :)
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Larry Himes <l...@mediasoft.net> wrote in message
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For every life you bring into this world some other cat has to loose their
life.
Think about that the next time you decide to breed a cat. Think about the
fact that there are already more cats than homes.
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Classic Boatworks of Maine <toy...@acadia.net> wrote in message
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Good luck w/your kittens.
LeeAnne
Classic Boatworks of Maine wrote in message
<92879128...@news.remarQ.com>...
LeeAnne wrote in message ...
Akasha wrote in message ...
The problem is that over 17 million cats and dogs are put to sleep in the
United States each year. The vast majority of those cats are the product of
backyard breeders and careless people who let their pets reproduce. I'm not
sure which category you fall into. We do not need more mutt cats produced.
There are already way to many dying in shelters every single day. I don't
care how wonderful your particular animals may be. I can find one equally
wonderful waiting to die in a shelter some place.
For every life you bring into this world some other cat has to loose their
life.
Think about that the next time you decide to breed a cat. Think about the
fact that there are already more cats than homes.
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Classic Boatworks of Maine <toy...@acadia.net> wrote in message
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There are plenty of mixed breed cats in shelters just like the ones you're
breeding. There is nothing special about what you are doing. If a person
wants a cat with certain characteristics they buy a pure bred. Your having a
few parents on site proves nothing. I have a whole house full of cats that
are all related and each one is a completely different individual than the
next one.
Don't fool yourself into thinking you're providing a service. You may be
providing yourself with a quick buck. It's just a pity animals have to
suffer for it.
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Classic Boatworks of Maine <toy...@acadia.net> wrote in message
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>LeeAnne, Your kindness shines thru. I am sorry that my "ad" appeared in the
>wrong place ... boating has a boats.marketplace for selling things.
>I am glad that you understand the characteristics inherent in MC's. Even
>though ours are not papered (hence the term Part MC) I would put them up
>against any MC breeders pets! Carl - Lee (our big baby) has this
>interesting way of getting attention ... he gently nibbles your big toe when
>asking to be fussed over. I have had many cats in my life but none of them
>had the personality of the MC's! But in any case ... if there were a way to
>delete my original post, I would do so, so as not to cause further offense
>to kasha.
You would put your cats up against any breeders stock, even though you
admit that these cats:
a. Are polydactyls
b. Don't have the requisite long coats that distinguish the breed.
Btw, where do you get your studs from? if you are line breeding, and
getting recessives, it's time for new blood. But I find it doubtful
that anyone with a registered MC would be willing to breed to a mutt.
If you really really like the MC, and really want to breed, you could
at least get purebreds and work to improve the breed!
Rebecca
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<rric...@lanminds.com> wrote in message
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>Rebecca, Did you catch the line where she said that her cat's are not
>papered? meaning she might have obtained them and then breeded them anyway
...
I saw that subject header and wondered which part of those main coon cats
were for sale.
<TheCentralSc...@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Personally, I don't see anything wrong as long as your kittens find good
homes and you know that they're going to good homes and as long as you're
not letting your cats run around the neighborhood getting eachother
preggo's, then do what you like, and trust me, just ignore the majority in
this group, it's the only way to survive.
Good luck w/your kittens
LeeAnne
Classic Boatworks of Maine wrote in message
<92888524...@news.remarQ.com>...
>LeeAnne, Your kindness shines thru. I am sorry that my "ad" appeared in
the
>wrong place ... boating has a boats.marketplace for selling things.
>I am glad that you understand the characteristics inherent in MC's. Even
>though ours are not papered (hence the term Part MC) I would put them up
>against any MC breeders pets! Carl - Lee (our big baby) has this
>interesting way of getting attention ... he gently nibbles your big toe
when
>asking to be fussed over. I have had many cats in my life but none of them
>had the personality of the MC's! But in any case ... if there were a way
to
>delete my original post, I would do so, so as not to cause further offense
>to kasha.
>
>LeeAnne wrote in message ...
>Hi believe me, it doesn't bother me one bit. Just please understand that
>you've posted your ad in the wrong place and the longer you try to fight it
>or justify your kittens, these people will attack you. If I didn't have
one
>MC already I'd probably be on my way to Maine w/a check for you.
>
>Good luck w/your kittens.
>LeeAnne
>
>Classic Boatworks of Maine wrote in message
><92879128...@news.remarQ.com>...
>>>In article <92862364...@news.remarQ.com>, "Classic Boatworks of
>Maine"
....
>Rebecca, Did you catch the line where she said that her cat's are not
>papered? meaning she might have obtained them and then
> breeded them anyway
the word is BRED
....
You would put your cats up against any breeders stock, even though you
admit that these cats:
a. Are polydactyls
2 of them are. People want cats with big feet.
Btw, where do you get your studs from?
Home Depot, HQ, and EBS
if you are line breeding, and
getting recessives, it's time for new blood. But I find it doubtful
that anyone with a registered MC would be willing to breed to a mutt.
Why would anyone want to breed a cat with a dog?
Responsibility seems to be the general quality lacked by a lot of people
around here though.
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LeeAnne <bar...@ici.net> wrote in message
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> >>Well, I have gone to see the site, but frankly I do not see what the
> >>connection is to lovingly raised kittens being sold to good homes of
> people
> >>who truly want a cat with certain characteristics. This kittens come
from
> >a
> >>line of part maine coon cats which we have had for several years. The
> >>grandmother of these kittens was spayed after she'd had 3 litters, and
all
> >>the siblings of our current mother have been spayed or neutered as has
the
> >>one son we kept. She will be spayed after one more litter. (she only
has
> >l
> >>litter per year.)
> >>This particular batch has extremely long legs and they seem to think
that
> >>they are either part monkey or part spider! They climb to the highest
> >point
> >>possible and jump. (the curtains seem to be a favorite at the moment
...
Every litter of mixed breed cats you produce means that some sweet little
mixed breed cat in a shelter somewhere will die. I realize that must put a
crimp in the little money making scheme you have going. But hey, reality is
harsh. And the harsh reality is that what you're doing is a violation of any
responsible,ethical, humane pet owners standards.
Responsible people don't by mixed breed cats from backyard breeders. If they
want a quality animal that displays characteristics of a certain breed they
seek out a responsible breeder of quality pure bred animals. Or, they seek
out an organization that rescues animals of a certain breed.
Unfortunately, there will always be ignorant and/or irresponsible people who
will pay to buy an animal from a person such as yourself. Generally they're
people who can't qualify to buy an animal from a responsible source.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of genetic testing have you had done on
your animals???
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Classic Boatworks of Maine <toy...@acadia.net> wrote in message
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mutt: mongrel, cur
cur: a mongrel dog
mongrel: an offspring of parents of different breeds or uncertain
ancestry
lisaviolet
owned by one pedigreed Maine Coon cat (TICA, CFA, ACFA) and 18 mutt cats
and 2 mutt dogs.
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LeeAnne wrote in message <37A73.425$kN5....@news.goodnet.com>...
>Classic Boatworks of Maine wrote in message
><92879128...@news.remarQ.com>...
>>Well, I have gone to see the site, but frankly I do not see what the
>>connection is to lovingly raised kittens being sold to good homes of
people
>>who truly want a cat with certain characteristics. This kittens come from
>a
>>line of part maine coon cats which we have had for several years. The
>>grandmother of these kittens was spayed after she'd had 3 litters, and all
>>the siblings of our current mother have been spayed or neutered as has the
>>one son we kept. She will be spayed after one more litter. (she only has
>l
>>litter per year.)
>>This particular batch has extremely long legs and they seem to think that
>>they are either part monkey or part spider! They climb to the highest
>point
>>possible and jump. (the curtains seem to be a favorite at the moment ...
>she has no right to be breeding these cats...has she bothered
>to have any of these animals tested for genetic diseases? I think
not...has
>she done any research into the genetics of her lines? I think not...Does
>she check out the homes where her "babies" go to? I think not...she says
all
>the offspring's are fixed...so what's good for the goose isn't good for the
>gander after all...best regards, Connie
Now that we know you can spell bred, do you care to answer any of these
other questions? Do you know what the term "responsible breeder" means or
just the one word "bred" there is a difference you know....best regards,
Connie
I've learned a lot being on this newsgroup, but I still find it riduculous
that anytime somebody posts something that somebody doesn't like they have
to be nasty about it and attack them personally. You could have stated your
opinion w/out being so harsh, did you ever stop to think that people don't
realize the over population problem? I don't support the killing of
millions of animals every year, but I'm not going to judge this person
because they are breeding their cat in what seems to be a responsible way.
The people that are truly irresponsible are the ones who let their cats run
around the 'hood getting eachother knocked up over and over again (my
boyfriend's neighbor's for instance, it makes me sick and I've thought of
cat napping them many times and having them fixed and dropping them off
again). The other irresponsible ones are the families who move and leave
their animals behind because they can't take them w/them.
It's just my opinion and it's just your opinion and nobody can change those,
so their is no need for name calling, etc..
LeeAnne
Akasha wrote in message <9lD73.82$ek7....@typhoon01.swbell.net>...
Anyway, just offering support to those who get attacked by the people on
this obviously obsessed NG...
Hint#1 No one alone can change the world, so don't go around beating
your opinion into people... you will only look/sound psychotic! (Most
people don't listen to obsessed psychotics).
Hint#2 How about offering opinions and advise that others are asking
for? Not everyone that comes on this NG is looking for a war... just
advice.
Good luck finding homes for your angels! They sound wonderful!
I'm sure there are some kitties out there that would be appalled by the
behavior (sp?) of their humans. Altho I guess that a fault of an animal -
to love their human no matter what they do or who they really are.
LeeAnne
MCalista wrote in message <375F6A74...@yahoo.com>...
Yep, I guess it's a good thing cats don't know about that stuff!
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LeeAnne <bar...@ici.net> wrote in message
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> Indeed. I'm sure cats would be appalled that humans allow their
species to
> be so over-bred that millions of them must be killed in shelters each
year.
Yes ... they are called abortion clinics.
> I'm sure cats would be appalled to know that some humans actually
support
> irresponsible breeding.
yes ... this is why they hand out condoms to children with out teaching
responsible use of them or teaching them to say NO.
>
> Yep, I guess it's a good thing cats don't know about that stuff!
Yep! It sure is. The other way of getting rid of mature adults is to
just send them to a war to get them killed off.
>
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I'm sure they would be appalled to know that their owners couldn't even
*try* to be nice to somebody who comes to this group with a for sale or free
kitties ad. They would be appalled to know what a bunch of lunatics are
typing with the same fingers that are scratching them behind the ears. I'm
also sure that they would be appalled to learn that humans are irresponsible
breeders themselves and many of those same humans shouldn't be allowed to
have children, never mind own animals.
Not once did you try to explain something in a nice way, and I'm sure your
kitties think you're the greatest thing since Pounce crunchy kitty treats,
boy would they be shocked if they could read "meowmie, how could you be so
mean to a silly hooman that doesn't know about all this stuff?, Mebbe you
could be nice and try to talk to them and educate them instead of being mean
and spiteful"
Akasha wrote in message <8hH83.1230$qO5.1...@typhoon01.swbell.net>...
>Indeed. I'm sure cats would be appalled that humans allow their species to
>be so over-bred that millions of them must be killed in shelters each year.
>I'm sure cats would be appalled to know that some humans actually support
>irresponsible breeding. I'm sure cats would be appalled to know that they
>are bred repeatedly just so their human can make a few bucks.
>
>Yep, I guess it's a good thing cats don't know about that stuff!
>
My brother agrees with you on the parenting part. He thinks that people
should have to apply for a license to be parents. His wife is a teacher
in a semi-inner city school and is always sounding off to him about the
way parents treat their children. And it's not just the kids who come
from poorer parents either. I certainly hope there aren't any animals
who have the misfortune to share there company.
Leslie