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Victor M. Martinez

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Apr 23, 2001, 12:10:19 PM4/23/01
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Hi y'all. It appears there is a toad/frog (how can I tell what it is?)
is living *under* the cat enclosure. I'm sure the critters will fish him/her
out eventually. Should I be concerned? Can these things be poisonous to
cats?
I think it's a she, 'cause we have hundreds of tadpoles living in our
one-of-these-days-will-be pond.

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David Yehudah

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Apr 23, 2001, 1:35:31 PM4/23/01
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Toads live on land and have bumpy skin. Frogs live in or
near the water and are smooth skinned. I'm pretty sure toads
are harmless to cats, although they taste so nasty cats
don't like them. As far as I know the Eastern hog-nose snake
(harmless puff adder) is the only critter that eats them.
Not only that, they eat nothing else. They make great pets
if you can find enough toads. They flare their necks almost
like a cobra and make a loud huffing noise when disturbed,
but if you reach out and grab one or hurt it in any way,
it'll play dead. It's neck will go limber, it'll roll over
on its back, and its tongue will hang out. If you turn it
right side up, it will immediately roll over on its back
again. They put on quite a show. The Western hog-nose eats
about anything. I never had one of those, so I don't know
how good a pet they make.
An interesting side note here is that only recently did
they discover it is actually venomous, with rear fangs. No
one knew, because one has never bitten a human.
Cheers,
Dave

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"Victor M. Martinez" <mar...@natasha.che.utexas.edu> wrote in message
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: Hi y'all. It appears there is a toad/frog (how can I tell what it is?)

I was just playing Trivial Pursuit over the weekend (pc edition). The
question asked was something like this: Where on a toad was his poison
stored; his skin, warts, feet or tongue. The answer (I got it wrong) was
that a toad's toxin is stored in the warts on his body. True? Sounds good
to me (see story below).

I had the lovely (not) experience long ago of having to clean up the
shredded particles of a toad my cat ate. Seems the old boy was hunting in
the garden, found a toad, ate it - then came inside and *very* promptly
threw it back up. He never ate another toad for the rest of his long life.
Loved chasing them though! :)

Moral of the story is - if your cat eats a toad, he'll most likely throw it
back up right away... and hopefully outside so you don't have to identify
little warty feet as you flush it away.


Victor M. Martinez

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Apr 23, 2001, 2:14:41 PM4/23/01
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bluemaxx <amerik...@usa.com> wrote:
>Moral of the story is - if your cat eats a toad, he'll most likely throw it
>back up right away... and hopefully outside so you don't have to identify
>little warty feet as you flush it away.

Yikes! Unfortunately, the gang likes to bring their prey *inside* and play
with it before eating it. I just hope I see them before they eat it. The
good thing is that, since there's 5 cats, they make a *lot* of noise when
they bring a critter indoors. Particularly Maya, she yeowls with excitement.

Tambra Jo

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Apr 23, 2001, 5:46:22 PM4/23/01
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Well if it makes you feel any more relieved I have toads and frogs in all
shapes, sizes and colors and my dog eats them constantly and has never
gotten sick. I do know that some can be poisonous but I don't know which
ones they are. There are always these very small tan toads with red spots
on there back that "fall" into our pool. Kody dog likes to liberate them
from their watery grave by jumping in a fishing them out. Of course then he
eats them! I was told they were poisonous but he has had no ill effects and
he eats TONS of them. I can't wait until my new lenses come for my digital
camera, I will be taking close up pics of all this stuff.

Here is a link to a site that I use to identify all kinds of critters,
wildflowers and stuff. I keep an online "life list" on this site with
everything I have seen in my backyard for the past year. Maybe you can
find your frog there. Tip: use the advanced search to narrow it down.
http://enature.com/main/home.asp
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David Stevenson

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Apr 23, 2001, 7:29:24 PM4/23/01
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In article <3AE467E3...@netzero.net>, David Yehudah
<sho...@netzero.net> writes

> An interesting side note here is that only recently did
>they discover it is actually venomous, with rear fangs. No
>one knew, because one has never bitten a human.

I'll bet it was Patty who told him that after buying one for his
birthday!

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wxill

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Apr 23, 2001, 9:40:34 PM4/23/01
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Frogs live pretty much in the water, and have smooth skin. You need to
wet your hands before you touch a frog or you can injure the skin.
Toads have dry, bumpy skin. They lay eggs in water and, like frogs,
start out as tadpoles, but live on land the rest of the time.
The last house we lived in had a toad that lived in a burrow under the
front porch. It came out and hopped around the yard eating bugs and
stuff at night. The cats never bothered it. It lived under the porch for
about twelve years and it was there when we got there, so we don't know
how old it really was. At least we think it was the same toad.
Oh, yes. If you decide to pick up the toad, watch out. It might decide
to pee on you. (Voice of experience here.)
Annie

bluemaxx

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"wxill" <wx...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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: Frogs live pretty much in the water, and have smooth skin. You need to

: wet your hands before you touch a frog or you can injure the skin.
: Toads have dry, bumpy skin. They lay eggs in water and, like frogs,
: start out as tadpoles, but live on land the rest of the time.
: The last house we lived in had a toad that lived in a burrow under the
: front porch. It came out and hopped around the yard eating bugs and
: stuff at night. The cats never bothered it. It lived under the porch for
: about twelve years and it was there when we got there, so we don't know
: how old it really was. At least we think it was the same toad.
: Oh, yes. If you decide to pick up the toad, watch out. It might decide
: to pee on you. (Voice of experience here.)
: Annie
:

heh... That reminds me of the time DH picked up a garter snake that was
innocently sunning itself on our bushes. He planned on showing that garter
snakes are harmless to all the neighborhood boys that were crowded around
him.

Well. That dang snake hissed at him, tried to bite him and then it peed
all over him. He proceeded to scream like a girly-girl and flung the snake
halfway across the yard. The neighborhood boys just slunk away, confusion
and disgust warring on their little faces.

And I never laughed so hard in my life. :)


David Yehudah

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Apr 23, 2001, 11:28:44 PM4/23/01
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Garter snakes are nasty-tempered little buggers in the
wild, although they can be good pets if you start handling
them when they're small. Taking a leak/dump on you is one of
their defensive mechanisms, and a large one can leave a
nasty bite.
Reminds me of when I took my 12-foot Reticulated python,
Fluffy (easy, Yowie), to a school in Texas and did a
show-and-tell in the gym. A snake that large takes a dump
like a horse with diahri. . .diarhe. . .the shits, and this
one did, all over me and the gym floor. Must have been a
gallon of the nastiest-smelling stuff you ever seen. The
principal told me to leave it for the janitor, which must
have pleased that gentleman no end.
Cheers,
Dave

bluemaxx wrote:
>
>
> heh... That reminds me of the time DH picked up a garter snake that was
> innocently sunning itself on our bushes. He planned on showing that garter
> snakes are harmless to all the neighborhood boys that were crowded around
> him.
>
> Well. That dang snake hissed at him, tried to bite him and then it peed
> all over him. He proceeded to scream like a girly-girl and flung the snake
> halfway across the yard. The neighborhood boys just slunk away, confusion
> and disgust warring on their little faces.
>
> And I never laughed so hard in my life. :)

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bluemaxx

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Apr 24, 2001, 12:00:52 AM4/24/01
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David, you crack me up! :) And I imagine there's a whole 'nother story
behind a python being named "Fluffy"...

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: Garter snakes are nasty-tempered little buggers in the

David Yehudah

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"Spot" was already taken. :-)
Cheers,
Dave

bluemaxx wrote:
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> David, you crack me up! :) And I imagine there's a whole 'nother story
> behind a python being named "Fluffy"...
>

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Yowie

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I have the sneaking suspicion that the reasons why the snake Fluffy and the
dog Fluffy got the name Fluffy are for very similar: "Fluffy" is the most
ridiculous name to name something that is clearly not at all in any way
*fluffy*.

Reminds my of my goldfish, Grill.

"Whats its name?"
"Grill, the fish"

I thought it was funny.

The next pair of goldfish I had were called "Rigor" and "Mortis"

Rigor wasn't very rigorous and got rigor mortis very quickly. But Mortis
went on to the ripe old of 3 and a bit years, which isn't bad for one of my
goldfish.

Yowie

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J Greaves

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Apr 26, 2001, 6:05:50 PM4/26/01
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>Subject: Re: Toads & Frogs & Snakes - OH MY!
>From: "Yowie" yowi...@my-deja.com
>Date: 24/04/01 10:29 GMT Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3ae61280$0$25486$7f31...@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>

>
>I have the sneaking suspicion that the reasons why the snake Fluffy and the
>dog Fluffy got the name Fluffy are for very similar: "Fluffy" is the most
>ridiculous name to name something that is clearly not at all in any way
>*fluffy*.
>
>Reminds my of my goldfish, Grill.
>
>"Whats its name?"
>"Grill, the fish"
>
>I thought it was funny.
>
>Yowie

It is. Made me smile anyway. When I was a teenager, my best friend called her
goldfish 'Silver'. I thought that was funny as well. At least, funnier than
calling it 'Jaws' which was the traditional name in our family for goldfish.

I've also met a cat called 'Dog', who was last seen heading to the courts with
a name change deed poll application.

Jeanette


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Jan Russell

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> >Subject: Re: Toads & Frogs & Snakes - OH MY!
> >
> >Reminds my of my goldfish, Grill.
> >
> >"Whats its name?"
> >"Grill, the fish"
> >
> >I thought it was funny.
> >
> >Yowie
>
> It is. Made me smile anyway. When I was a teenager, my best friend called
her
> goldfish 'Silver'. I thought that was funny as well. At least, funnier
than
> calling it 'Jaws' which was the traditional name in our family for
goldfish.
>
> I've also met a cat called 'Dog', who was last seen heading to the courts
with
> a name change deed poll application.
>
> Jeanette
>
>

A friend of mine once had a rabbit called Stew.

Jan.


Hazel Az

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I had a rabbit named Killer.

Hazel Az

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Bridget

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I had some friends who were raising a calf for 4-H. One of
them named the calf frosty because that is what it would end up
doing in the freezer - getting frosty!

Bridget Snowshoe


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On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:29:27 +1000, "Yowie" <yowi...@my-deja.com>
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>Reminds my of my goldfish, Grill.
>
>"Whats its name?"
>"Grill, the fish"
>
>I thought it was funny.

Reminds me of an aquaintance's cat, Seiko.

People would say "why did you call your cat Seiko?"

He would reply "watch"

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J Greaves

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Apr 27, 2001, 10:34:34 AM4/27/01
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>
>A friend of mine once had a rabbit called Stew.
>
>Jan.

Poor wabbit! I tried to convince my friend to call hers Felix and Whiskers, but
she didn't think it was at all funny.

bonita

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A few years ago my son and his SO bought two pigs and named them Ham and
Bacon so the pigs wouldn't get a false sense of security.

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Andrea Fuller

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In article <3ae61280$0$25486$7f31...@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>, Yowie
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>The next pair of goldfish I had were called "Rigor" and "Mortis"
>
>Rigor wasn't very rigorous and got rigor mortis very quickly. But Mortis
>went on to the ripe old of 3 and a bit years, which isn't bad for one of my
>goldfish.

One of my carers had a goldfish who lasted over twelve years before
finally dying. At the end, he was blind, but he would go to the surface
at feeding time and she would hand feed him. I didn't know goldfish
could live that long. If any of my brother's goldfish made it to six
months, they were doing well.
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