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Azus

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Nov 29, 2010, 1:46:48 PM11/29/10
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... a dose of self-pitying negativity!

Anyone seen Kyla?

CatNipped

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Nov 29, 2010, 2:23:03 PM11/29/10
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Ingredients
4 medium artichokes, rinsed well
1/2 lemon, cut into wedges
1/2 cup chopped green onions
2 tablespoons minced garlic
1/2 pound baby shrimp
3 teaspoons Emerils Original Essence, recipe follows
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 tablespoons minced fresh parsley
1 tablespoon fresh minced oregano
1 teaspoon grated lemon peel
2 cups breadcrumbs
6 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil, divided
2 tablespoons freshly grated Parmesan
2 teaspoons lemon juice

Directions
Bring a large pot of water to a boil. One at a time, cut the stems from the
artichokes to leave a neat, flat base. Lay an artichoke on its side, and cut
away the upper third with a sharp knife. With kitchen shears, remove the
prickly leaf tips from each remaining leaf. Rub the cut sides and bottom
with a lemon wedge, squeezing lemon juice onto the cut areas. Place the
prepared artichokes and the lemon wedges in the boiling water and simmer,
partially covered, until the bottom is tender and can be pierced with a
sharp knife and an outer leaf pulls out easily, about 25 minutes. Drain
upside down in a colander. While the artichokes are cooking, heat the 2
tablespoons olive oil in a large skillet over medium-high heat. Add the
green onions and garlic, and cook, stirring for 1 minute. Add the shrimp, 1
teaspoon Essence, salt, parsley, oregano and lemon peel, stirring to mix
well, and cook until the shrimp are pink, about 2 minutes. Remove from the
heat and let cool. Preheat oven to 400 degrees F. When the artichokes are
cool enough to handle, Press the leaves gently back so that the artichoke
opens to reveal the inner choke and prickly leaves. Pull out the cone of
undeveloped white leaves and gently scrape out the choke with a spoon so as
not to damage the heart. In a large bowl combine the bread crumbs, 2
tablespoons olive oil, Parmesan, lemon juice, remaining 2 teaspoons Essence
and shrimp mixture. Adjust seasoning to taste. Gently pull the leaves
outward from the center until the leaves open slightly. Fill the artichoke
cavities with bread stuffing, then pack a little bit into the space between
the leaves. Place the artichokes in a large baking dish and drizzle the tops
with remaining olive oil. Pour 1/2 cup of water into the bottom of the dish.
Bake until the artichokes are golden brown and the bread crumbs develop a
nice crust, about 10 to 15 minutes. Serve warm.

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CatNipped

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Nov 29, 2010, 2:25:06 PM11/29/10
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Sorry, forgot to add:

Essence (Emeril's Creole Seasoning):
2 1/2 tablespoons paprika
2 tablespoons salt
2 tablespoons garlic powder
1 tablespoon black pepper
1 tablespoon onion powder
1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
1 tablespoon dried leaf oregano
1 tablespoon dried thyme
Combine all ingredients thoroughly and store in an airtight jar or
container.
Yield: about 2/3 cup

BfloPolska

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Nov 29, 2010, 2:39:04 PM11/29/10
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On Nov 29, 2:25 pm, "CatNipped" <L.T.Cr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry, forgot to add:
>
> Essence (Emeril's Creole Seasoning):

I will now return to my regular scheduled salivating.

Blessed be,
Baha

Azus

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Nov 29, 2010, 3:58:27 PM11/29/10
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On 29/11/2010 19:23, CatNipped wrote:
> Ingredients
> 4 medium artichokes, rinsed well
> 1/2 lemon, cut into wedges
> 1/2 cup chopped green onions
> 2 tablespoons minced garlic
> 1/2 pound baby shrimp
> 3 teaspoons Emerils Original Essence, recipe follows
> 1/2 teaspoon salt
> 2 tablespoons minced fresh parsley
> 1 tablespoon fresh minced oregano
> 1 teaspoon grated lemon peel
> 2 cups breadcrumbs
> 6 tablespoons extra virgin olive oil, divided
> 2 tablespoons freshly grated Parmesan
> 2 teaspoons lemon juice


Nah... I like 100% healthy...

bastX...@sonic.net

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Nov 29, 2010, 4:10:38 PM11/29/10
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Azus wrote:

What are you on about?? This looks like a well-balanced and nutitious
meal to me. Who asked you anyway?

Joyce

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Where no one is screaming...
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Azus

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Nov 29, 2010, 6:25:28 PM11/29/10
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On 29/11/2010 21:10, bastX...@sonic.net wrote:

> What are you on about?? This looks like a well-balanced and nutitious
> meal to me. Who asked you anyway?
>
> Joyce
>


All that acid? Nah... It's enough to burn the stomach off even the
thickest of skinned!

John F. Eldredge

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Nov 29, 2010, 6:44:05 PM11/29/10
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All what acid? You have a half a lemon, some grated lemon peel, and a
couple of teaspoons of lemon juice, mixed with several cups of non-acidic
ingredients. The total acid content of one serving would probably be
less than what you would consume in the average salad.

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"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly
is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria

Azus

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Nov 29, 2010, 8:04:30 PM11/29/10
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On 29/11/2010 23:44, John F. Eldredge wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:25:28 +0000, Azus wrote:
>
>> On 29/11/2010 21:10, bastX...@sonic.net wrote:
>>
>>> What are you on about?? This looks like a well-balanced and nutitious
>>> meal to me. Who asked you anyway?
>>>
>>> Joyce
>>>
>>>
>>
>> All that acid? Nah... It's enough to burn the stomach off even the
>> thickest of skinned!
>
> All what acid? You have a half a lemon, some grated lemon peel, and a
> couple of teaspoons of lemon juice, mixed with several cups of non-acidic
> ingredients. The total acid content of one serving would probably be
> less than what you would consume in the average salad.
>


Yup... you're right. I mean... how could I possibly argue about food to
an American...

Anyone for a McDonalds?

Azus

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Nov 29, 2010, 8:08:49 PM11/29/10
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On 29/11/2010 23:44, John F. Eldredge wrote:

I'm curious... How does someone with a mathematically savvy mind deal
with creationism?

That IS what the Bible teaches, isn't it? Or are you one of those
religious people that prefers to ignore facts...?

CatNipped

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Nov 29, 2010, 9:12:56 PM11/29/10
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No, but how about N'Awlins Bar-B-Que Shrimp?

For those on a diet or worried about cholesterol, stop reading here. The
following recipe has *NO* redeeming health benefits, it's strictly for the
taste buds - but your taste buds will be eternally grateful to you for this
meal. Warning, even reading this may cause a heart attack! ;>

I'm not even waiting for a troll, this is too good not to share. We just
had this for dinner - **!!!SOOOOOO!!!** kick-ass good!!! We had this once
before and this reheats very well the next day, so no worries about left
overs (I would recommend reheating in a skillet rather than nuking it -
nuking it may make the shrimp tough and hard to peel).

N'Awlins Bar-B-Que Shrimp

- 2 lbs *VERY* large shrimp (like 2 inches long - you might have to go to a
specialty grocery store for these) - *NOT* shelled or beheaded - you'll cook
this whole in shells - peel only just before popping this into your mouth
- 1/4 to 1/5 cup (to taste) Worchestshire sauce (we use 1/4 only because
I'm not crazy about Worchestshire sauce)
- 2 tbsp lemon juice (freshly squeezed is best)
- 2 to 3 tsp coarsely ground pepper (freshly ground is best)
- 2 tsp Creole seasoning*
- 1 tsp crushed fresh garlic (freshly ground is a *must* for this
ingredient)
- 3 (yes, THREE) sticks butter (1.5 cups)

Combine all ingredients except shrimp in a large cast iron skillet and bring
to a boil.

When sauce is boiling, add shrimp (you may need to do this in two batches -
don't "layer" the shrimp, put only as much as will make one layer in the
skillet). Cook for 1 minute, flip shrimp over and cook for another minute.
Dish out shrimp. This goes really well with small red potatoes, nuked is
fine - if you use them, cut up the potatoes and dribble sauce over both the
potatoes and the shrimp.

* Emeril's Creole Seasoning
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/emeril-lagasse/emerils-creole-seas...

or

http://tinyurl.com/25zw5w3

- 2 1/2 tablespoons paprika
- 2 tablespoons salt
- 2 tablespoons garlic powder
- 1 tablespoon black pepper
- 1 tablespoon onion powder
- 1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
- 1 tablespoon dried leaf oregano
- 1 tablespoon dried thyme

Tony Chacere's is OK to use if your grocery carries it.

CatNipped

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Nov 29, 2010, 9:16:57 PM11/29/10
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Well, actually, this *was* in response to a troll - that's what I get for
copying and pasting without re-reading first.

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John F. Eldredge

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Nov 29, 2010, 9:26:32 PM11/29/10
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The above is not a quote from me, just our resident troll trying to
change the subject.

CatNipped

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Nov 29, 2010, 10:11:07 PM11/29/10
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We know, John. The whole point of the game is to respond with recipes no
matter *what* the troll says - with a persistent troll you might get half a
book of great recipes! ;> But since none of them have ever had even the
attention span of a gnat they get bored by not getting a rise out of someone
and go their merry way off to plague some other newsgroup with their
nonsense.

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Storrmmee

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Nov 30, 2010, 9:11:05 AM11/30/10
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my question is can i substitute scallops for the shrimp in both of these, or
perhaps that fakey lobster stuff? Lee

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CatNipped

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Nov 30, 2010, 10:12:47 AM11/30/10
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Sure! Feel free to be creative! That might produce a few disasters, but if
we hadn't done that we wouldn't have these creative masterpieces either!
Prawns are a likely substitute also (the shrimp we got last night, I forget
what they were called, but they had like tiny little lobster claws - and
they were *HUGE*!!

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Azus

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:09:24 PM11/30/10
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On 30/11/2010 02:12, CatNipped wrote:

I find it curious - given the obesity issue - that Americans (sorry,
folk from the USA) are still fixated on food:)

Haven't you learnt that being greedy is bad for your health? I mean...
bigger isn't always better...

Azus

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:10:44 PM11/30/10
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On 30/11/2010 02:26, John F. Eldredge wrote:

> The above is not a quote from me, just our resident troll trying to
> change the subject.


I'm not a resident... Just camping for a day or two... Soaking up the
fresh air whilst amusing myself with the idiotic behavior of 'apparent'
adults...

CatNipped

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:17:15 PM11/30/10
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This dish is simply luxurious: grilled beef tenderloin smothered in a
vibrant herb butter served on top of a garlicky slab of whole-grain toast.
And yes, with only about 303 calories and 14 grams of fat total, this
steakhouse-worthy entree can be part of a healthy diet. If you like, make
extra herb butter to top chicken, fish or even a grilled pork chop.

Recipe Nutrition

Per serving: 303 calories; 14 g fat (5 g saturated fat, 6 g mono unsaturated
fat); 80 mg cholesterol; 15 g carbohydrates; 29 g protein; 5 g fiber; 438 mg
sodium; 462 mg potassium Nutrition Bonus: Zinc (46% daily value), Selenium
(44% dv), Vitamin C (28% dv), Iron (17% dv).

Recipes to Help You Get Healthy in a Hurry

Ingredients

1 tablespoon whipped or regular butter, slightly softened
3 teaspoons extra-virgin olive oil, divided
1 tablespoon minced fresh chives or shallot
1 tablespoon capers, rinsed and chopped
3 teaspoons minced fresh marjoram or oregano, divided
1 teaspoon freshly grated lemon zest, divided
1 teaspoon lemon juice
3/4 teaspoon kosher salt, divided
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground pepper, divided
1 tablespoon minced fresh rosemary
2 cloves garlic (1 minced, 1 peeled and halved)
1 pound filet mignon, about 1 1/2 inches thick, trimmed and cut into 4
portions
4 slices whole-grain bread
4 cups watercress, trimmed and chopped

Directions

Preheat grill to high.

Mash butter in a small bowl with the back of a spoon until soft and creamy.
Stir in 2 teaspoons oil until combined. Add chives (or shallot), capers, 1
teaspoon marjoram (or oregano), 1/2 teaspoon lemon zest, lemon juice, 1/2
teaspoon salt and 1/4 teaspoon pepper. Cover and place in the freezer to
chill.

Combine the remaining 1 teaspoon oil, 2 teaspoons marjoram (or oregano), 1/2
teaspoon lemon zest, 1/4 teaspoon salt and pepper, rosemary and minced
garlic in a small bowl. Rub on both sides of steak. Rub both sides of bread
with the halved garlic clove; discard the garlic.

Grill the steak 3 to 5 minutes per side for medium-rare. Grill the bread
until toasted, 30 seconds to 1 minute per side. Divide watercress among 4
plates. Place 1 toast on each serving of watercress and top with steak.
Spread the herb butter on top of the steaks and let rest for 5 minutes
before serving.

recipe source

eatingwell.com

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CatNipped

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:23:39 PM11/30/10
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Kid Recipes
by nibbledish

I find that my children have a very similar appetite to the one I had when I
was pregnant. They want anything sweet, carb-y, salty, cheesy or processed.
And although I tried to control my pre-natal cravings for health and weight
reasons, my kids do not seem to have those same concerns. If it were up to
them they would eat cupcakes for breakfast, mac n' cheese for lunch and
pizza for dinner; with chips and cookies scattered throughout the day for
snacking. So when I try to make them eat food that is a little better for
them, it is an all out battle.

Sometimes our dinner can last up to 2 hours because my 3 year old will not
eat anything on his plate. In my weaker moments, I am tempted to give in
and hand him a bag of pretzels. But that wouldn't be good for his body or
our future dinner showdowns. Mealtime has become much easier since I
started giving them their favorite meals, prepared my way. Here are a few
kid favorites with a healthy twist.
Sponsored Links for kids recipes

Healthy Mac n' Cheese

Ingredients:
- 2 cups whole wheat elbow macaroni (don't worry, they'll never know the
difference)
- 1 1/2 tablespoons unsalted butter
- 2 tablespoons all-purpose flour
- 1 1/2 cup skim milk, warmed for 1 minute in the microwave, or heated on
stove
- 8 ounces low-fat sharp cheddar cheese, shredded (about 2 1/4 cups)
- 2 teaspoons Worcestershire sauce
- 1/4 teaspoon salt

Directions:
Cook elbow macaroni until it is al dente, see package for al dente
directions.

While the pasta is cooking, melt the butter in a large saucepan over medium
heat. Whisk in the milk. Whisk in the flour. Whisk until the mixture is
well combined. Bring it to a steady simmer, whisking constantly. Keep
whisking until thickened, about 2 minutes.

Drain the pasta in a colander. Remove the sauce from the heat, add the
cheese, and stir until the cheese melts. Immediately add the hot, drained
pasta and stir until well-coated. Stir in Worcestershire sauce and salt.

Serve and enjoy!

Pepperoni Pita Pizzas

Ingredients:
Ÿ 4 small pitas (you can use white or whole wheat)
Ÿ 14 oz can of petite diced or crushed tomatoes (depending on your texture
preference)
Ÿ 6 slices of pepperoni, cut into strips
Ÿ 2 cups shredded mozzarella cheese

Directions:
Preheat oven to 425ºF. Run a sharp knife just inside the edge of each pita
and follow the outline to remove the top layer of bread and create a border
for the pizzas. Place the pitas directly onto the top rack of the oven and
cook for two minutes to crisp.
Meanwhile, place the canned tomatoes in a sieve to remove all the excess
juice.
Divide sauce evenly among the pitas and spread over the entire cut-out
surface.
Divide half of the pepperoni strips evenly among the pitas and scatter them
over the sauce. Sprinkle ½ cup of cheese over each of the pitas. Top the
cheese with the remaining pepperoni strips, dividing them equally among the
four pitas.
Bake the pitas directly on the oven rack for eight minutes or until cooked.
Cool slightly, serve and enjoy!
digg
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CatNipped

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:27:21 PM11/30/10
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Hey Jill, as you know I'm not a cook and I'm tired of searching the 'net.
Can I start using some of the recipes on your site, "The Chef's Cat"?

Yours are always so much better anyway.

And Carol, where are you? You have some *fantastic* recipes you could
share.

Or can I quit this troll-B-Que since everyone has killfiled it?

CatNipped

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:28:40 PM11/30/10
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You've probably forgotten all about it, but I'm talking about this site we
set up: http://www.possibleplaces.com/TheChefsCat/

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Storrmmee

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:34:36 PM11/30/10
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post away, we can't cook much here in the hotel, so its like food porn for
me... carol is trying to keep busy because of unca Sammy's passing, Lee

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CatNipped

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:44:13 PM11/30/10
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Aw, I feel so bad - I completely forgot about Unca Sammy. No excuses except
senility.

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Azus

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Nov 30, 2010, 2:47:37 PM11/30/10
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On 30/11/2010 19:23, CatNipped wrote:


You have fat kids too? Shame:(

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Azus wrote:

> I find it curious - given the obesity issue - that Americans (sorry,
> folk from the USA) are still fixated on food:)
>
> Haven't you learnt that being greedy is bad for your health? I mean...
> bigger isn't always better...

*I* "find it curious" that posting a recipe (this newsgroup's
traditional response to trolls) should evoke such a stupid response!
Especially at holiday time, when posting (or requesting) recipes has
nothing to do with being "fixated" on food! This newsgroup has always
been treated by many of its members as a gathering of friends -
cat-loving friends, of course, but nevertheless friends with whom we can
share our joys and sorrows. Discussions often stray far afield from
cats, but most of us don't mind. (If we aren't interested or don't have
anything to contribute, we simply scroll past those posts.)

Incidentally, I have traveled abroad a fair amount, and it's not only
AMERICANS who have an "obesity issue" - you find fat people among plenty
of other nationalities, as well.

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Nov 30, 2010, 4:44:52 PM11/30/10
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Azus wrote:
>
> You have fat kids too? Shame:(
>

Oh get stuffed, you moron!

Azus

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Nov 30, 2010, 5:12:20 PM11/30/10
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On 30/11/2010 21:43, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

> Especially at holiday time

When is the holiday?

Azus

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On 30/11/2010 21:44, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:

> Oh get stuffed, you moron!


Stuffed? More food talk!! Do you know anything else?

Christina Websell

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> "Azus" <outont...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:id1iiu$n06$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 29/11/2010 23:44, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:25:28 +0000, Azus wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 29/11/2010 21:10, bastX...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What are you on about?? This looks like a well-balanced and nutitious
>>>>> meal to me. Who asked you anyway?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All that acid? Nah... It's enough to burn the stomach off even the
>>>> thickest of skinned!
>>>
>>> All what acid? You have a half a lemon, some grated lemon peel, and a
>>> couple of teaspoons of lemon juice, mixed with several cups of
>>> non-acidic
>>> ingredients. The total acid content of one serving would probably be
>>> less than what you would consume in the average salad.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yup... you're right. I mean... how could I possibly argue about food to
>> an American...
>>
>> Anyone for a McDonalds?
>
> No, but how about N'Awlins Bar-B-Que Shrimp?


I'd never had a McDonalds so my brother took me for one.
I was not impressed. I doubt I will go there again.
Tweed


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Nov 30, 2010, 6:45:39 PM11/30/10
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ROTFLMAOWTIME! OK, I was laughing too hard to go find and paste another
recipe. Besides, I'm having a bad pain day (weather change is hell for
chronic pain patients) - and playing with you is just no longer any fun.

Y'all continue with the Troll-B-Que as you wish!

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cshenk

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Nov 30, 2010, 6:57:45 PM11/30/10
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"CatNipped" wrote

> Hey Jill, as you know I'm not a cook and I'm tired of searching the 'net.
> Can I start using some of the recipes on your site, "The Chef's Cat"?
> Yours are always so much better anyway.

Hehe posted recipes are there for all to use. No permission required or she
wouldn't have posted them for others.

> And Carol, where are you? You have some *fantastic* recipes you could
> share.

I have hundreds out there already! Tell me what you are looking for?

cshenk

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Nov 30, 2010, 7:30:36 PM11/30/10
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"CatNipped" wrote

> Aw, I feel so bad - I completely forgot about Unca Sammy. No excuses
> except senility.

No problem my friend! It's hard to keep up with everyone. Sammy's passing
eases. I hope no one thinks I'm horrid for saying it's a little quicker to
adjust to a pet's death when you had them only 6 months and knew at the
onset they would not have long with you. We simply enjoyed every moment
with him.

We now do the same with Mabel Anne. She's only been here a little over a
week and she's already older than her type normally live. Beagles, about 9
years normally. She's 10-12 already. She's in her forever home just like
Sammy was.

Few people will accept loving a pet that they know won't be with them long.
I guess we are an odd but nice sort of 'special' as we will. The tears here
have pretty much stopped and we recall his *life* and joy that we could see
here.

One of the neatest things about taking an older pet, is you get all the
training advantage they had. Sammy had a very unique one. His first owner
(who he is with now) had to do physical therapy like i do for my back. He
taught Sammy to join in!

Imagine my shock the first time I brought out the futon for my little
workout. I started my neck rotations where you slowly (on all 4s with neck
straight out) just turn your head. Giggles erupt from the daughter. I look
around and all I can see is the dog is next to me but looking at me. OK.

I do the next rotation and Don comes in to see why Charlotte is laughing.
Now he's laughing too! I look back and the dog is looking at me. ?WtF?

Ok, next part is bobble the head. You gently let it drop down then back up.
Giggles erupt from all, even me as this time I can see it. Sammy is doing
it with me!

Ok this is pretty wierd! Cool but wierd.

Next I flip on my back. Sammy does too. I start the leg lift set (one foot
on floor, other wiggles up which helps the back muscles). Sammy is doing
it. More giggles. Then the tummy crunches which are partial 'curlups'.
Even I am laughing so hard by then, I almost peed on myself. See, dogs cant
do that, but he was looking right at me and touching forelegs to back legs
in time with me.

Lord, I loved my Sammy and the time we were graced with him. Even if his
time with us was short, he enriched us. It was worth it, every second.

CatNipped

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First of all, I'm SO sorry, I forgot you were dealing with Unca Sammy going
to the 'Bridge.

This is better described on the group's FAQ, but I started a "Troll-B-Que".
It's a unique way that we *used* to use to handle trolls (cat groups tend to
get more than their fair share of trolls). So instead of firing back a
nasty retort and start a long flame (usually somewhere along the way one or
more group regulars end up arguing against each other - which is what a
troll is trying to start and watch the "fun"), we would just post recipes
(ignoring the provocation - e.g. doing the opposite of what the troll
wants). Since trolls are usually high-schoolers off of school on vacation
and tend to have the attention span of a gnat, the troll gives up and goes
away and the group gets a ton of new recipes to try.

Click on the link in either my or Mark's sig and take a look at the FAQ,
it's quite amusing all on its own, and Mark did a beautiful job refurbishing
it.

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Oh Carol, that was a beautiful and touching tribute. And I think you are a
very remarkable, kind and loving friend whom I'm proud to know. I don't
think it's at all odd that you're dealing so well with your grief - as you
said, it wasn't unexpected and it allows you to be 'emotionally available'
for the next little lost one who needs you too.

May Bast (or your deity of choice) bless the rest of your days until your
passage to the 'Bridge.

Will in New Haven

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We know that you are a total waste of time. We know that you are an
asshole. If you don't like being called an asshole, asshole, I am easy
enough to find.

--
Will in New Haven
Bill Reich, in Branford, near New Haven, Connecticut

Winnie

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Years ago when I did my exercises prescribed by the physiotherapist on
the
floor, Rusty(RB) would sit on the small my back. I loved having him
with me
on the floor. At first, he thought it was strange that I was on the
floor which was
his domain and came sniffing at me.

Storrmmee

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if you do go again, having read how/what you cook, get a grilled chicken if
its on offer, no mayo because they slop it on, its doable and not bad at
all, Lee
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Storrmmee

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the way i see it you, cn, and most others have children, then there are
those like myself who chose to not have them, I am thinking the issue with
this troll, is that nobody ever got close enough to make reproduction a
possiblity, Lee

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Storrmmee

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Carol,

there might not have been a trool b q since you started reading. when a
troll becomes boring/irritating or isn't fun to torture verbally, this group
has by consensus adpoted the policy of posting recipes in response to
anytibg the troll posts, sometimes someone requests stuff other times just
what strikes your fancy... also on the subject of recipes, often around
holidays someone starts a holiday food thread so we can share family
favorites,

Lee


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Storrmmee

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if you didn't work out the emotional part as you have, it would be
impossible to home these kinds of pets, and honestly having daisy and cash
for continuinity has to help, Lee

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CatNipped

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*Believe* me I respect your choice to not have children - there have been
(and truth be told sometimes still are) times when I think that people with
children sugar coated it so much just because misery loves company! ;>

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Storrmmee

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the choice was easier for me than most who make it.-i didn't want to bring a
child into the world that might have my sight issues, as a friend once said,
passing something along you know will be passed is not only abuse to the
child in many wys its a crime against humanity as well.
-I am terminally selfish and everyone always said, "oh, you will change when
its your child", when i asked, "well then if i don't will you raise it?",
"no?" i didn't think so.
-and last, maybe not least, when my mother used to say, "i hope you have a
child like yourself some day" and "you never pay for your rasing until you
have your own to raise," that scared the sh*t outta me as i was well err
difficult,

Lee
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jmcquown

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> Hey Jill, as you know I'm not a cook and I'm tired of searching the 'net.
> Can I start using some of the recipes on your site, "The Chef's Cat"?
>
Of COURSE you can use whatever recipes you want! That's why you put them
there for me, isn't it? :)

Jill

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> On 30/11/2010 02:12, CatNipped wrote:
>
> I find it curious - given the obesity issue - that Americans (sorry, folk
> from the USA) are still fixated on food:)
>
> Haven't you learnt that being greedy is bad for your health? I mean...
> bigger isn't always better...


We're only fixated on food because you're an idiot TROLL. Isn't school back
in session yet?

Jill

CatNipped

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LOL! I know what you mean about the "mother's curse". But seriously, I
would bet that anyone who knows you would *NEVER* say that you are lacking
or imperfect in any way - we all make our way in the world as we are born
into it, but just like a box of mixed chocolates, what matters is on the
inside.

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CatNipped

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Thanks, I'd rather post your than just a random recipe I found on the web
(not only do I not cook, I'm not even allowed in the kitchen when food is
being prepared). So it's better to use recipes that are tried and tested by
one of us here.

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Storrmmee

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cooking i hate, making up recipe i love, the DH loves to cook and is better
than excellent at it, gramby can veryify that this is not just spousal
pride, Lee

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Christmas, Channukah, Winter Solstice, New Years, Saturnalia .......
take your pick. Practically every culture on earth observes some sort
of festivities that coincide with the Winter Solstice. What planet are
you from that you are unaware of them? (Cretin!)

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Uhhh..... It's a British slang expression, and has nothing at all to do
with FOOD! (It's not the digestive system that's getting "stuffed".)

CatNipped

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Oh, I have no doubts - DH is the chef (cook isn't good enough) in our house.
His specialties are the Bar-B-Que Shrimp (N'Awlins style) and the Shrimp
Stuffed Artichokes (which I have to pretty please him to make because it's a
rather long and involved process - but the outcome is to die for).

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Granby

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Memories, what wonderful things.

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Granby

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The man is indeed excellent at preparing food. Lee can take a list of
ingredients and make a recipe which he can prepare.

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jmcquown

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> cooking i hate, making up recipe i love, the DH loves to cook and is
> better than excellent at it, gramby can veryify that this is not just
> spousal pride, Lee

I'm glad your DH loves to cook! John doesn't cook. I'm rather flattered
when he watches every move I make in the kitchen, asking "what did you just
do?" He had me write down some simple recipes so he could try to copy them
at home. Last year I sent him a crock pot, which is about as adventurous as
he'll get other than making eggs and toast for breakfast. Hey, at least
he's trying! And it beats him eating TV dinners and frozen chicken pot
pies.

He uses the crock-pot for stewed chicken and chuck roast with vegetables.
And I showed him how to pan-fry cod fillets. He was still talking about how
good the fish was when I drove him to the airport at the end of October :)

As for making up recipes, I do that all the time. And recreating recipes.
I'll eat something when I'm in a restaurant (rarely). If I love it and come
home and decide to recreate the recipe. It might take a few times to get
the seasonings right, but I love doing it. Of course, I have to be in the
mood to cook. If someone told me I HAD to come home every night and cook
dinner, I'd balk.

Jill

cshenk

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"Storrmmee" wrote

> Carol,
>
> there might not have been a trool b q since you started reading. when a
> troll becomes boring/irritating or isn't fun to torture verbally, this
> group has by consensus adpoted the policy of posting recipes in response
> to anytibg the troll posts, sometimes someone requests stuff other times
> just what strikes your fancy... also on the subject of recipes, often
> around holidays someone starts a holiday food thread so we can share
> family favorites,

Ah! Very very cool!

cshenk

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"Storrmmee" wrote

> if you didn't work out the emotional part as you have, it would be
> impossible to home these kinds of pets, and honestly having daisy and cash
> for continuinity has to help, Lee

Yes, that's true. I can look easily back at the joy of the pet who didn't
end his/her days in a cage with just a number.

Right now, I'm learning how to work with an elderly (10-12 likely) deaf dog.
If I am not perfect on knowledge about how to deal with a deaf dog, she's
still in a better place than she was at. Mabel Anne was in the main
'facility' and forced to be part of a pack of what looked to me like maybe
20? I could be wrong on the number. Her general type normally live to 9,
rarely to 11.

Cash if you didn't know is also a medical issues dog and the vet says now
he's *probably* good for longer, his expectancy when we got him was at best
6 (5 more likely). Now they say, maybe 9. He's 4, edging to 5.


CatNipped

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And posting about food is not considered off-topic, ergo the lack of OT in
the subject line.

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It frustrates the trolls no end :) They don't understand why we suddenly
start posting recipes rather than listen to/respond to their blather.

Jill

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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It's a TROLL. Mommy and Daddy obviously don't monitor what it's doing on
the computer.

Jill

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evg...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Azus wrote:
>
>> I find it curious - given the obesity issue - that Americans (sorry, folk
>> from the USA) are still fixated on food:)
>>
>> Haven't you learnt that being greedy is bad for your health? I mean...
>> bigger isn't always better...
>
> *I* "find it curious" that posting a recipe (this newsgroup's traditional
> response to trolls) should evoke such a stupid response!
(snippage)
> Incidentally, I have traveled abroad a fair amount, and it's not only
> AMERICANS who have an "obesity issue" - you find fat people among plenty
> of other nationalities, as well.


When I lived in Thailand I saw plenty of overweight people, and they weren't
Americans. Thais, Chinese, Indians... lots of overweight people. For a
while my father employed a Thai cook named Uhn, which in itself means "fat".
She was a short, round roly poly sort; very cheerful. She didn't speak much
English but she would point to herself, giggling, and say "Me, Fat!"

Jill

jmcquown

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"Christina Websell" <spam...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "CatNipped" <L.T....@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:8lj4tb...@mid.individual.net...

>> "Azus" <outont...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:id1iiu$n06$1...@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On 29/11/2010 23:44, John F. Eldredge wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:25:28 +0000, Azus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 29/11/2010 21:10, bastX...@sonic.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What are you on about?? This looks like a well-balanced and nutitious
>>>>>> meal to me. Who asked you anyway?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joyce
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All that acid? Nah... It's enough to burn the stomach off even the
>>>>> thickest of skinned!
>>>>
>>>> All what acid? You have a half a lemon, some grated lemon peel, and a
>>>> couple of teaspoons of lemon juice, mixed with several cups of
>>>> non-acidic
>>>> ingredients. The total acid content of one serving would probably be
>>>> less than what you would consume in the average salad.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yup... you're right. I mean... how could I possibly argue about food to
>>> an American...
>>>
>>> Anyone for a McDonalds?
>>
>> No, but how about N'Awlins Bar-B-Que Shrimp?
>
>
> I'd never had a McDonalds so my brother took me for one.
> I was not impressed. I doubt I will go there again.
> Tweed
>
>

Good for you! I don't understand the fascination with McDonald's. I could
sort of understand it when there were no fast food places in the 1960's.
Driving in for a quick hamburger was a novelty. Now? It's junk food.

Jill

Storrmmee

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and it sure isn't fast anymore, Lee

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Storrmmee

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cooking is just too mechanical for me, just not my area of expertese, i do
slow cooker and steamer good because there isn't that time of watching it, i
simply can't watch the food like that, but then i can't generally stay in
one place long enough to cook an egg so a real meal it out of the question,
Lee

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Storrmmee

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now THAT is very cool, Lee

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Joy

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Besides which, it's a fun way to get new recipes or share ones we especially
like.

Joy


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"CatNipped" <L.T....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks, I'd rather post your than just a random recipe I found on the web
> (not only do I not cook, I'm not even allowed in the kitchen when food is
> being prepared). So it's better to use recipes that are tried and tested
> by one of us here.
>
> --
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
> See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped
>
> See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at:
> http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/
>
Any time you feel like updating the site let me know. I've got tons more
recipes ;)

Jill

Storrmmee

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well then post what you are going to make for christmas. LOL, Lee

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Unfortunately, when my computer died it took my Photoshop and Dreamweaver
with it and the older versions won't work well with the newer OS. I could
use Notepad for the code, but have no way to manipulate pictures that's
worth a fig. Even if I had it, it would be hard to do because of the RSD -
just typing all the "manic" posts lately I've almost doubled my pain level
(and I just finished scrubbing my bathroom from top to bottom because it
wasn't "dirty enough" to warrant Ben's doing it).

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snuffy

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On Nov 30, 2:47 pm, Azus <outonthet...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 30/11/2010 19:23, CatNipped wrote:
>
> You have fat kids too?  Shame:(

and they like pizza like me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiwyVtNIyMQ

jmcquown

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"CatNipped" <L.T....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Unfortunately, when my computer died it took my Photoshop and Dreamweaver
> with it and the older versions won't work well with the newer OS. I could
> use Notepad for the code, but have no way to manipulate pictures that's
> worth a fig. Even if I had it, it would be hard to do because of the
> RSD - just typing all the "manic" posts lately I've almost doubled my pain
> level (and I just finished scrubbing my bathroom from top to bottom
> because it wasn't "dirty enough" to warrant Ben's doing it).
>
> --
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped


No worries. I figured you weren't feeling like maintaining the site anyway.
But, FYI, I no longer take photos of my food. It got old fast. Sorry, I
don't keep a camera in my kitchen. I reserve it for cute cat stuff ;)

Jill

CatNipped

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You're a wise woman to have your priorities straight! ;>

I wouldn't give up completely the idea of updating the site though, maybe
when the weather gets warm again I'll feel more like doing it. I called my
pain doctor just now and, of course, they can't/won't call in a prescription
for the break-through pain, but told me to come in tomorrow morning and
he'll "try something new". I'm not getting my hopes up, unless, possibly,
they do a steroid injection into the cervical facet joint in my neck - other
than that I'm pretty much at the limit (*my* limit) of narcotics. They
talked "at me" about implanted electrical stigmatization or an internal
morphine pump - but that would only be another stop-gap and in the long run
not only quit working but actually be harmful (I wish I'd have known what I
had and did the research years before - I probably wouldn't be as bad as I
am today).

jmcquown

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"Storrmmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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> well then post what you are going to make for christmas. LOL, Lee


Ah! I love a challenge! LOL But I've planned ahead. I had the meat
market in town order a 7 lb. standing rib roast. Prime rib, it's what's for
dinner! I'll be using a recipe my mother clipped out of a newspaper circa
1975. It goes something like this:

With a small sharp knife, make small but deep cuts all over the meat on the
top and sides. Cut three cloves of garlic into slivers. Tuck the slivers
of garlic into the cuts on the roast. Generously salt & pepper the roast.
Pat on some dried thyme. Place the roast, rib side down, in a deep roasting
pan.

Preheat the oven as high as it will go (mine is 500, electric oven). Put
the roast in the oven and immediately turn down the heat to 375F. Roast for
one hour. Turn the oven completely off. Walk away, ignore it. Think of
this as a horror flick with a delicious outcome :) DON'T OPEN THE DOOR!
Just let it sit there.

Let the roast stand in the UNOPENED oven for 2 hours. Now, turn it back on.
375 degrees. If you roast it for 55 minutes it will be medium in the
middle, graduating to more well done on the ends. 40 minutes will give you
rare in the middle and medium rare in at the ends. (That's what I prefer.)
Let stand 10 minutes before slicing. Slice downwards between the bones then
across the bones to release the slices. Oh, and skim the fat off the pan
drippings to serve au jus :)

It's too early yet to decide on side dishes. I usually use the bones to
make a meaty beef stock. But this year I may grill them. Prime rib ribs
rubbed with mixture of herbs and spices are fantastic.

CatNipped

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LOL! I don't know whether to laugh or rage at my spell-checker / poor
eyesight - of course that should have been stimulation not stigmatization

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That sounds scrumptious! I'm a boring food person, so home-made mashed
potatoes and creamed peas would be the perfect sides for that.

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that sounds interesting, Lee

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> That sounds scrumptious! I'm a boring food person, so home-made mashed
> potatoes and creamed peas would be the perfect sides for that.
>
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I'll probably do mashed potatoes as well. I love peas but not creamed peas.
That probably harks back to childhood when my mother bought *canned* creamed
peas (mushy grossness!) and my dad would eat them on toast. LOL I'll figure
out the vegetable later. It's times like this I wish I had a double oven.
I'd love to have roasted acorn squash but my oven will be completely tied up
with the roast that day.

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> *Believe* me I respect your choice to not have children - there have been
> (and truth be told sometimes still are) times when I think that people
> with children sugar coated it so much just because misery loves company!
> ;>

>
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>
> "Storrmmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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>> the way i see it you, cn, and most others have children, then there are
>> those like myself who chose to not have them, I am thinking the issue
>> with this troll, is that nobody ever got close enough to make
>> reproduction a possiblity, Lee

LOL!

I, too, chose not to have children. (I realized as early as age 16 I
wouldn't have the patience for it) Let's face it, I'm selfish. I like to
be able to pick up and go (even if it's just to the grocery store) whenever
I feel like it. I'm not about arranging for babysitters. (I hated
babysitting, myself, only did it a couple of times.) And sleep is precious
to me. I started experiencing bouts of insomnia in my early 20's. Getting
up to feed a baby or tend a crying child, sorry, I'd be awake the rest of
the night. Not to mention my ex-husband was a worthless SOB. He couldn't
(wouldn't) hold a job. I was the one working and paying the bills. Adding
the expense of a child would have pushed me right over the edge. (Not to
mention, I'd never have gotten him out of my life!) I watched some of my
friends with kids get dragged down, always tired, irritable, feeling like
their lives had spun out of control. I wanted no part of that. I'm sure
there are lots of people who are thrilled to be parents. People who are
*good* at being parents. I'm just not one of those people.

Jill

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> the choice was easier for me than most who make it.-i didn't want to bring
> a child into the world that might have my sight issues, as a friend once
> said, passing something along you know will be passed is not only abuse to
> the child in many wys its a crime against humanity as well.
> -I am terminally selfish and everyone always said, "oh, you will change
> when its your child", when i asked, "well then if i don't will you raise
> it?", "no?" i didn't think so.

I had to chuckle. Whatever your (the collective your) reasoning, why is it
people with children are always convinced you'll change your mind and
suddenly want children? I can't tell you how many times I was told that.
"Oh, you'll change your mind." What, is motherhood some great social club I
should have been clamouring to join?!

I changed GYN's once because she refused to renew my prescription for birth
control pills because I smoke. I knew all about the studies stating women
on the pill who smoke were more likely to have strokes in their 60's.
That's all well and good, but sounds like it's my problem, not hers. But I
asked her, "So, if I get pregnant are you going to raise the child?" Didn't
think so. I tried talking to her about alternatives but all she was fixated
on was the fact that I smoked. Great, lady, but it's my body, not yours.
So I changed doctors. I found one who was willing to discuss alternatives
to the pill rather than harp on my smoking.

> -and last, maybe not least, when my mother used to say, "i hope you have a
> child like yourself some day" and "you never pay for your rasing until you
> have your own to raise," that scared the sh*t outta me as i was well err
> difficult,
>
> Lee
>
LOL We all heard that one! I wasn't exactly a model child but I also
wasn't wildly out of control ;) I also never heard my "biological clock"
ticking. So what if I have a uterus? In the grand scheme of things,
there's a lot more to consider than that.

Jill

CatNipped

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> "CatNipped" <L.T....@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> That sounds scrumptious! I'm a boring food person, so home-made mashed
>> potatoes and creamed peas would be the perfect sides for that.
>>
>> --
>> Hugs,
>>
>> CatNipped
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> I'll probably do mashed potatoes as well. I love peas but not creamed
> peas. That probably harks back to childhood when my mother bought *canned*
> creamed peas (mushy grossness!) and my dad would eat them on toast. LOL
> I'll figure out the vegetable later. It's times like this I wish I had a
> double oven. I'd love to have roasted acorn squash but my oven will be
> completely tied up with the roast that day.
>
> Jill

I've never even seen canned creamed peas. It's the one (almost only) dish
anyone in my family actually requests me to cook. Here's how I do it, FWIW:

2 cans Early Baby Peas (I use a name brand to get the smalles, tenderest
peas possible
3/4 to 1.25 stick(s) butter
1 small onion
2 - 3 tablespoons plain flour

Dice one small onion into very small pieces. Drain off the water from the
two cans of peas into a large measuring cup. In a large saucepan make a
modified "roux", e.g. use 3/4 to 1.25 stick(s) of real butter and melt it
over a high fire (or max setting on an electric stove). Once the butter is
melted (be sure to keep stirring so it doesn't start to burn or brown. which
butter will quickly do), add in the diced onion and let the onion brown.
Once the onion is browned, add in the flour, one tablespoon at a time until
the roux starts to thicken and the flour browns nicely (I like to have a lot
of the "creamy" part of the peas so I usually use 2 or 3 tablespoons of
flour which will make the finished dish very thick and soupy). Once the
roux is browned nicely (watch closely and stirred constantly because, on a
high fire, all parts of the beginning of this recipe go very quickly), add
the two cans of peas and a small amount of the water saved aside from the
cans. Continue adding liquid as needed to keep the peas from burning, and
turn the fire to half strength. Using a fairly open weave hand masher (it
has two metal rods coming from the handle to the "flat" part that looks like
triple "Ss" - *not* the colander-looking masher) and start mashing up some
of the peas (with the peas being so small and using an open weave masher
there will be plenty of peas left whole and just enough mashed to create a
rich creamy texture. Keep adding the water from the cans and any additional
water needed from the tap. Turn the fire to low and let cook for 1 hour,
stirring fairly often and adding water as needed to keep the peas from
sticking (no cover will be used unless you want to save the peas and rewarm
them at a later time if you have another dish to tend). Enjoy!

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>>

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i wasn't totally hidious but just in trouble enough i figured any child of
mine would be uncontrollable... and as to the uterus... somehow its ok to
have that fine living room furniture nobody ever sits on, but keep an organ
unused and you are somehow wrong... on the few rare occasions i did hear the
faint rumblings of what i thought might be a biological clock, i called my
sister, she has four kids, made me deaf in a hurry, Lee

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ROTFLMAOWTIME! That so tickled me because it is *so* true.

I was one of those rare birds who, if I heard a friend or relative talking
about "needing" children to "complete" their lives, would offer my two for
one week, free of charge, no takesy-backsy. They were 15 months apart in
age and both had the worse case of ADHD ever documented to that point in
time (they actually participated, recommended by my world-class
pediatrician, in Tulane University's break-through research on that
"disease" - if anyone wants to know more about this and how it can be
handled *WITHOUT* drugs, I can provide a font of information free of
charge).

*I*, on the other hand, had nothing more than "Father Know Best" and "Leave
it to Beaver" as examples of what family life should be (I grew up in an
unfixable broken home from the age of 4 when my father died). I was so
woefully ignorant for the first three years of marriage being worried to
death that I might not be able to get pregnant. After my second child I was
researching (at the time illegal) abortion when I had a "scare" one month.

I *NEVER* glossed over feelings I had (but barely restrained from acting
out) at times, wanting to pick one up and throw him/her through the nearest
wall. [Add to all of the above the fact that I was married, at the time, to
an abusive alcoholic and you can imagine the type of behavior problems my
children had.]

*NOT* everyone is cut out to be a mother and, as in my offer above, there's
no takesy-backsy. You have to be prepared, *ALL ON YOUR OWN, WITH NO OTHER
ASSISTANCE (things still work out that way even today, there is no
relationship that is lasting *except* motherhood and governmental assistance
is getting harder and harder to get) to a lifelong commitment that takes
24/7 work and diligence (and even after children are grown and have grown
children of their own, the "mother worry" never ends).

Yes, there are unimaginable rewards of motherhood also, but they seem very
few and far between the work/frustration/mind-boggling irritation and
tediousness of motherhood.

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like jill I am terminally selfish, i will place a bet on almost anything,
except another humanbeing, we were in florida, we went to dog races, we
placed bets, and won once dh figured out the dogs who were allowed to go to
the bathroom and petted before the race won, but we left because a lot of
the dogs seemed unhappy to dh, then we went to a "hili, sp parlor, it was
everything seedy you imagine, including drunk smelling men smoking cigar
stubs... we watched two matches as we had no idea what it was about, we were
both creeped out and left, I tell this to say that i could never gamble on
me changing if the child were mine, i figured if i needed to hand out
attention beyond my dh or parents between us we have plenty of neices and
nephews to take it, truth is i don't miss not having children, and beyond
the praticle realities of old age don't think i personally have missed
anything,...

having said that, i truly admire those men and women who not only want
children but are further fufilled in their lives because of having them,
these people are generally the best of parents,

Lee


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> like jill I am terminally selfish, i will place a bet on almost anything,
> except another humanbeing, we were in florida, we went to dog races, we
> placed bets, and won once dh figured out the dogs who were allowed to go
> to the bathroom and petted before the race won, but we left because a lot
> of the dogs seemed unhappy to dh, then we went to a "hili, sp parlor, it
> was everything seedy you imagine, including drunk smelling men smoking
> cigar stubs... we watched two matches as we had no idea what it was about,
> we were both creeped out and left, I tell this to say that i could never
> gamble on me changing if the child were mine, i figured if i needed to
> hand out attention beyond my dh or parents between us we have plenty of
> neices and nephews to take it, truth is i don't miss not having children,
> and beyond the praticle realities of old age don't think i personally have
> missed anything,...
>
> having said that, i truly admire those men and women who not only want
> children but are further fufilled in their lives because of having them,
> these people are generally the best of parents,
>
> Lee

I whole-heartedly agree with that and may Bast bless them for bringing some
sanity into this insane world.

Yowie

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> "Storrmmee" <rgr...@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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>> the choice was easier for me than most who make it.-i didn't want to
>> bring a child into the world that might have my sight issues, as a
>> friend once said, passing something along you know will be passed is
>> not only abuse to the child in many wys its a crime against humanity
>> as well.
>> -I am terminally selfish and everyone always said, "oh, you will
>> change when its your child", when i asked, "well then if i don't will
>> you raise it?", "no?" i didn't think so.
>
> I had to chuckle. Whatever your (the collective your) reasoning, why is
> it people with children are always convinced you'll change your mind and
> suddenly want children? I can't tell you how many times I was told that.
> "Oh, you'll change your mind." What, is motherhood some great social
> club I should have been clamouring to join?!

Its not that I have had a child that has convinced me that most
(although obviously not all!) women who start out not wanting children
end up changing their minds, its because most women I know who started
out not wanting children changed their minds later on (my sister and I
are two data points in that data set). Alas, the sad thing is, by the
time they change their minds, their fertility has plummeted and as such
that they often have a really hard time getting pregnant.

I would never ever recommend anyone having a child unless they were
absolutely certain that thats what they want to do. Its hard enough when
they are planned and desperately wanted, having children just because
sperm met egg is a ridiculously silly notion these days. (Personally,
I'd happily make all forms of contraception free and easily available,
no questions asked, to anyone who wanted it, anywhere in the world -
much like the free vaccines that were given out in previous decades, the
AIDS epidemic needs a similar global response IMHO)

Yes, even if the child is not conceived wanted, the hormones have done
their work and the child is at least born wanted and loved months
later, but its not true for everybody.

Nobody should be forced to be responsible for raising a child against
their will.

>
> I changed GYN's once because she refused to renew my prescription for
> birth control pills because I smoke. I knew all about the studies
> stating women on the pill who smoke were more likely to have strokes in
> their 60's. That's all well and good, but sounds like it's my problem,
> not hers. But I asked her, "So, if I get pregnant are you going to raise
> the child?" Didn't think so. I tried talking to her about alternatives
> but all she was fixated on was the fact that I smoked. Great, lady, but
> it's my body, not yours. So I changed doctors. I found one who was
> willing to discuss alternatives to the pill rather than harp on my smoking.

Thats *outrageous*. Alas, not as uncommon as you might hope.

Doctors, particular shall we say the less talented ones, seem to merely
see each person as a series of health issues rather than as whole and
unique person who has to be treated both holistically and individually.

Joel often gets the 'overweight' lecture with the quack going through
his "obvious" diabetes and cholesterol problems, except that his blood
tests show that his blood sugar and lipid levels are exactly where they
should be. Yes, he's fat, but even though other diseases are
*associated* with obesity, that doesn't necessarily mean all obese
people will have those diseases. We've even had one doctor refuse to
give him his antidepressants because they might cause even more weight
gain, which might be true in the long term, but the consequence of *not*
giving Joel his antidepressants are far more severe and and much less
reversible than just plain body mass.

Our current GP is a good one. He's never associated an ear infection,
for example, with Joel's weight. In fact, I think the only time he's
pressed the point is when Joel has complained about sore knees, and it
was a simply biomechanical discussion. More force here means more torque
there which means more pain here. Reduce the force here will probably
relieve some if not all the pain. Logical, but not judgemental, is our
GP, and I don't like going to anyone else.

> LOL We all heard that one! I wasn't exactly a model child but I also
> wasn't wildly out of control ;) I also never heard my "biological clock"
> ticking. So what if I have a uterus? In the grand scheme of things,
> there's a lot more to consider than that.

I'm hoping as we pass through this generation of changing male and
female roles, that the right to choose whether or not to have children
becomes accepted as normal for both genders. After all, when was the
last time that a man was 'tut-tutted' for not having kids?

Yowie

Christina Websell

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I wanted to see what a Mcdonalds was like. I saw. I ate. First and last
time.
FGS, people eat that cr..?


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> if you do go again, having read how/what you cook, get a grilled chicken
> if its on offer, no mayo because they slop it on, its doable and not bad
> at all, Lee


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honestly it used to be better and some of the ideas made at home are quite
nice, but quality especially for mcd has really gotten bad of late, Lee

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On Dec 3, 1:59 pm, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote:
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.  I tried talking to her about alternatives but all she was fixated
> on was the fact that I smoked.  Great, lady, but it's my body, not yours.
>

Exactly some of them are like that- I knew an amazing lady called
Pauline who smoked and drank all her life (she died when she was 86)
and she once went in to see her doctor about a bad knee and the first
thing he started going on about was her smoking. She none too
politely asked him what on Earth smoking had to do with her knee then
flipped him the bird and changed doctors

Lesley

Slave of the Fabulous Furballs

EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

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Christina Websell wrote:
> I wanted to see what a Mcdonalds was like. I saw. I ate. First and last
> time.
> FGS, people eat that cr..?

FWIW, I think the European McDonald's food is actually BETTER than what
they serve in the U.S. (And, yes, people really do!)

Sjouke Burry

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Yes, people do, and no they are just as bad as in the US.

Lesley

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On Dec 5, 7:58 pm, Yowie <Yowie9644.DIESPAM...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> Joel often gets the 'overweight' lecture with the quack going through
> his "obvious" diabetes and cholesterol problems, except that his blood
> tests show that his blood sugar and lipid levels are exactly where they
> should be.

There's a UK comedienne called Jo Brand who is somewhat of the larger
persuasion herself who once said if she went to her GP and announced
she'd been raped, was pregnant and had HIV as a result and
furthermore had been decapitated the first thing her GP would say
would be "You'd feel a lot better if you lost weight"

A slightly larger than average woman of my accquaintance did a
credible performance in the London Marathon a couple of years back-
the running joke was that she ran because her boss had promised to be
at the finishing line with a packet of ciagrettes. One of her
colleagues was a heavy smoker who did triathlons for fun.

I personally can at the age of 53 with no effort whatsover bend down
and touch my toes- yes, I am overweight but also I did modern dance
training when I was younger and I still dance 3-4 times a week either
at home or out sos it keeps me supple and is good exercise- cleared my
last check up no problem they're still trying to work out how

Health issues are rarely the result of one factor

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