Re: Little Boy update
Lesley
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
Don't know what a BB gun is (Something like an air rifle?) but hope
they catch the people taking potshots at cats
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Will in New Haven
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
> are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
> I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
> will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
> residents warning of pets being shot at.
I am sorry to hear this and ashamed of my species. Best wishes for the
little fellow.
I hope some old armed grouch like me catches the so-called person who
did this.
--
Will in New Haven
Lisa Katt
"Mark Edwards" <Mark-E...@tx.rr.com> skrev i meddelandet
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>
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
> Costs of surgery to remove it are way beyond my current means, so we
> are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
> I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
> will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
> residents warning of pets being shot at.
>
>
> Mark
Oh NO! That makes me so mad.
The fact that I can not do anything about it makes me still madder.
I really hope the perp. gets caught.
And that no other cats get hurt.
Purrs!
Elisabet
MLB
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
> Costs of surgery to remove it are way beyond my current means, so we
> are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
> I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
> will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
> residents warning of pets being shot at.
>
>
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark
I hope you reported it to the authorities. Next time it could be a
child or somebody's eye. This should be checked out.
We are sending heartfelt purrs that you both will heal completely. MLB
Takayuki
>Someone with a BB gun.
>
>He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
>- embedded in his right rear leg.
>
>Costs of surgery to remove it are way beyond my current means, so we
>are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
>I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
>will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
>residents warning of pets being shot at.
That's terrible - the poor thing. How much did they say it would cost
to remove?
You're doing a good thing by putting up fliers. Maybe it'll keep the
neighbors on alert or scare someone straight. I hope you reported it
to the police as well, so that it's in the local blotter and on
record, in case there's a pattern. There was some nut a few years ago
who over several days fired an air rifle at passing cars on the
freeway from some woods near our town. The person was never caught.
Takayuki
>Don't know what a BB gun is (Something like an air rifle?) but hope
>they catch the people taking potshots at cats
BBs are small metal spheres used in smoothbore low end toy air guns,
as opposed to the non-spherical pellets that are used in higher end
rifled air guns.
MaryL
"Mark Edwards" <Mark-E...@tx.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
> Costs of surgery to remove it are way beyond my current means, so we
> are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
> I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
> will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
> residents warning of pets being shot at.
>
>
> Mark
What did the vet say about the need for extraction vs. a decision not to do
anything? Is this likely to cause permanent problems? If so, would you
mind sharing the cost? The reason I'm asking is that I would send a small
donation if you would post (or send via email) the name, address, and phone
number of your vet. I'm pretty sure there are others on this NG who would
do the same thing.
Best wishes to you and Little Boy for a speedy recovery.
MaryL
Mark Edwards
>That's terrible - the poor thing. How much did they say it would cost
>to remove?
They're quoting (an approximate amount) $2000 US. The vet said "it is a
good idea" to remove the BB, but didn't insist that it MUST be removed.
For those who have asked (thank you), the address for the vet is:
6300 South Cooper
Arlington, TX 76001
Dulce Mae and Little Feet are playing nursecat to Little Boy, so he's in
good paws at the moment.
Hugs and Purrs,
Mark
--
Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
MaryL
"MaryL" <stan...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message
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I just saw your reply to Tak. Could you also supply the name and phone
number of your vet?
The amount seems very high unless this is extremely delicate surgery. Have
you considered a second opinion?
MaryL
bastX...@sonic.net
> What did the vet say about the need for extraction vs. a decision not to do
> anything? Is this likely to cause permanent problems? If so, would you
> mind sharing the cost? The reason I'm asking is that I would send a small
> donation if you would post (or send via email) the name, address, and phone
> number of your vet. I'm pretty sure there are others on this NG who would
> do the same thing.
<waves hand> Ditto! If he needs to have it out, could you post the vet's
name and number so we can call to make donations? Or if someone has a
Paypal account and is willing to make the call, we could do it that way.
Poor guy. I'm steaming about that s***bag who shot him.
Joyce
--
Who ever thought up the word "Mammogram"? Every time I hear it, I think
I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone.
-- Jan King
Granby
thing.
Takayuki
>No cluons were harmed when Takayuki wrote:
>>That's terrible - the poor thing. How much did they say it would cost
>>to remove?
>
>They're quoting (an approximate amount) $2000 US. The vet said "it is a
>good idea" to remove the BB, but didn't insist that it MUST be removed.
>
>For those who have asked (thank you), the address for the vet is:
>
> 6300 South Cooper
> Arlington, TX 76001
>
>Dulce Mae and Little Feet are playing nursecat to Little Boy, so he's in
>good paws at the moment.
Just wow. Does that sound overly expensive to anyone, as we have a
lot of slaves here who have had surgery on their cats? And Lily
Whiskers has also had a pellet removed a few years ago.
Mark Edwards
>I just saw your reply to Tak. Could you also supply the name and phone
>number of your vet?
That would be:
Gully Animal Hospital
6300 South Cooper
Arlington, TX 76001
MaryL
"Mark Edwards" <Mark-E...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Thanks. I will call them tomorrow and make arrangements for a donation. I
had done a search based on the address you found and located the place that
I thought it would be (I was correct), and they do take several forms of
payment.
I hope you will get a number of donations--that's a very big bill to face.
MaryL
MaryL
"Takayuki" <Takay...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yes, it does sound high. Inordinately high. That's why I asked if Mark had
considered a second opinion. Still, I am planning to send a donation, so I
hope to receive a response to that question soon if he is going to check
with someone else.
MaryL
NettieCat
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
> Costs of surgery to remove it are way beyond my current means, so we
> are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
> I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
> will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
> residents warning of pets being shot at.
>
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark
I hope that whoever shot him gets what they deserve, and very soon.
Jeanette
Stormmee
Lee
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Have a wonderful day
"Takayuki" <Takay...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Joy
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
>
> Costs of surgery to remove it are way beyond my current means, so we
> are giving him antibiotics and pain meds in the meantime.
>
> I am thankful that it is NOT a lead pellet under this circumstance. I
> will also be printing up fliers to put on the doors of all other
> residents warning of pets being shot at.
>
>
> Hugs and Purrs,
> Mark
Aww! The poor little guy!
Joy
MLB
Yes, it sounds very expensive. How deep did the pellet go? That would
be a clue. Did it hit an organ? I have read that sometimes people do
not have a bullet removed and it is safer not to. I would vote for a
second opinion at another Vet hospital. Best wishes, always. MLB
Enfilade
I would also get a second opinion. If it cost me only $300 for Nox's
hernia surgery, why does it cost $2000 to remove a BB? Are Canada and
the US that different for vet costs, or is this BB lodged somewhere
where removal is dangerous?
Bright Blessings for Little Boy.
--Fil
Takayuki
>I have no words to express my revilement of the shooter.
>
>I would also get a second opinion. If it cost me only $300 for Nox's
>hernia surgery, why does it cost $2000 to remove a BB? Are Canada and
>the US that different for vet costs, or is this BB lodged somewhere
>where removal is dangerous?
>
>Bright Blessings for Little Boy.
I agree with both points. I would just like to say, I am sticking out
my virtual tongue at the shooter. And $2000 sounds like a very high
estimate.
This is one BB, already located by X-ray, not near any organs, but
embedded in a back leg. BB rounds are made of steel so that they can
be held in place at the back of the gun barrel with a magnet. If I
were MacGuyver, I would remove it with a pair of pliers and a rare
earth magnet.
Marina
> Someone with a BB gun.
>
> He has a BB - one of the round brass ones instead of the lead pellets
> - embedded in his right rear leg.
How terrible! Lots of purrs on the way for LB and you.
--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban.
In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Mischief
Off the top of my head, i can't be sure....if i were making an
estimate for this kind of surgery (which the vet would help me on) it
would be something like this.....
Pre-op bloodwork (depending on the vet and how old Little Boy is)
Pain drugs, antibiotic shot
Anesthesia
Exploratory surgery of the leg
Surgical Pack, suture material and possibly a drain depending how deep
it is
Post op xrays to make sure nothing else is in the leg
Pain drugs and antibiotics to go home
Every vet is different in what they want to charge. $2k seems a bit
high, but then i don't know what's on the estimate.
I could see how it is possible for the wound to heal up on its own and
the leg be fine, but i would be worry about infection at this point.
If it turns into an abcess then you're in trouble.
evil glares and litterbox offerings to the jackass that shot him and
purrs for you and your checkbook and of course Little Boy
Kristi
MatSav
"BB" = "Ball Bearing".
--
MatSav
Takayuki
wrote:
I always thought that "BB" came from the designation for the diameter
of the birdshot that was originally used for BB guns (designations go
from, in increasing size 9-1, B, BB, BBB, T, TT, F, FF). BB (.180")
is one size larger then size "B" (.170"). BB guns shoot 0.170 inch
diameter balls.
Tiger (a.k.a. HRFL)
ood paws at the moment.
>
> Just wow. Does that sound overly expensive to anyone, as we have a
> lot of slaves here who have had surgery on their cats? And Lily
> Whiskers has also had a pellet removed a few years ago.
Miss Lily Whiskers had a pellet removed from her flank. She had been
shot with a lead pellet from an air rifle and got cellulitis because
the pellet had lodged just under her skin. It was very straightforward
for the vet as all he had to do was cut it out as it was subcutaneous,
but even then the ER visit, X-rays, operation and subsequent treatment
came to £600 which is about $1200US. For a pellet lodged in a foot,
I'd expect it to be much higher. Here, surgery for air rifle victims
*can* be upwards of £1500...
Helen M (Sending purrs for Little Boy)
Christina Websell
"Tiger (a.k.a. HRFL)" <leopard...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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TBH it sounds excessive to me for a pellet in the foot which can probably be
palpated to see where it is rather than needing a x-ray to see where it is
in the body.
It would depend how much damage it had done though and what needed to be
repaired.
If Boyfie was shot in the flank with a pellet lodged just below the skin
(without complications like cellulitis) I'd estimate the cost at �250.
I had a whippet collapse (Bank Holiday of course) a few years ago. Her
spleen had ruptured in the night through a small tumour we had not
suspected.
A nurse had to be called in specially and paid accordingly to help with the
operation to remove her spleen. She had scans and was stabilised on a drip
to see if it was even possible to stabilise her enough. It was, and they
did.
The whole thing with aftercare cost �350, in todays money perhaps �550.
Hell of a lot more trouble than a pellet in the flank.
Tweed
Debbie Wilson
> I had a whippet collapse (Bank Holiday of course) a few years ago. Her
> spleen had ruptured in the night through a small tumour we had not
> suspected.
> A nurse had to be called in specially and paid accordingly to help with the
> operation to remove her spleen. She had scans and was stabilised on a drip
> to see if it was even possible to stabilise her enough. It was, and they
> did.
> The whole thing with aftercare cost �350, in todays money perhaps �550.
> Hell of a lot more trouble than a pellet in the flank.
Daisy had a spleen tumour last year, it did not rupture but grew to the
size of a large grapefruit before we knew it was there. She had
emergency surgery to remove it and a 2-day stay at the surgery and it
cost over �700. That was at a small surgery without much fancy
equipment. I can easily imagine a larger surgery/animal hospital would
have easily charged into 4 figures for the same procedure, and for
delicate foot surgery I would expect much the same..... x-rays would be
more necessary due to the complexity of the foot anatomy, bone tissue
obscuring the exact location of the pellet, etc..
Deb.
--
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He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield
Christina Websell
"Debbie Wilson" <djma...@mac.com> wrote in message
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> Christina Websell <ti...@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I had a whippet collapse (Bank Holiday of course) a few years ago. Her
>> spleen had ruptured in the night through a small tumour we had not
>> suspected.
>> A nurse had to be called in specially and paid accordingly to help with
>> the
>> operation to remove her spleen. She had scans and was stabilised on a
>> drip
>> to see if it was even possible to stabilise her enough. It was, and they
>> did.
>> The whole thing with aftercare cost �350, in todays money perhaps �550.
>> Hell of a lot more trouble than a pellet in the flank.
>
> Daisy had a spleen tumour last year, it did not rupture but grew to the
> size of a large grapefruit before we knew it was there. She had
> emergency surgery to remove it and a 2-day stay at the surgery and it
> cost over �700. That was at a small surgery without much fancy
> equipment. I can easily imagine a larger surgery/animal hospital would
> have easily charged into 4 figures for the same procedure, and for
> delicate foot surgery I would expect much the same..... x-rays would be
> more necessary due to the complexity of the foot anatomy, bone tissue
> obscuring the exact location of the pellet, etc..
>
>
in the Midlands and not in London) that was looking into what they thought
was extortionate vet charges. The vets who were charging a lot did not come
out too well from it.
Tweed
Debbie Wilson
> There was a programme on TV here a couple of weeks ago (might have been just
> in the Midlands and not in London) that was looking into what they thought
> was extortionate vet charges. The vets who were charging a lot did not come
> out too well from it.
I didn't see that one, must have been a regional TV program as you
suspect. Thank goodness for our pet insurance is all I can say!
Cheryl
Like dentists here - but when determining a fair charge, a lot depends
on both the complexity of the surgery, when it was done, and the costs
in the area. A vet (or dentist) with a practice in an area with very
expensive rents etc. has to charge more than someone in a cheaper area.
The last surgery one of my cats had done (not counting neutering) was
fairly complicated - Mandy's broken jaw repair - but that was so long
ago that the price wouldn't be comparable to today's prices.
--
Cheryl
Christina Websell
"Cheryl" <cper...@mun.ca> wrote in message
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flies, I posted that my brother got a kitten, Tigger, as his young daughter
particularly wanted one.
Despite my best advice about supervising him outside until he was older and
had some sense, he got knocked down by a car. Fortunately where they live
it's a 20 miles an hour speed limit, or I'm sure he would have been killed.
I got a panicky phone call to say Tigger had rushed into the house with
blood all over his face and was hiding, what to do? "Take him straight to
the vet" I said. "What, on a Sunday?" said my brother. "Yes, on a
Sunday" I replied.
So he took Tigger to my own vet where he was operated on for a broken jaw
and had it wired. On a Sunday. Out of Mon-Sat. & holidays always attract a
premium price as nurses have to be paid extra to come in to assist.
While Tigger was under anaesthetic they decided why not neuter him at the
same time? so they did. He was 4 months old.
All done, with aftercare included, out of hours, for around �350.
I saw Tigger briefly last week. He lost his eyebrow with whisker on at the
same time, it was dragged off under the car and it hasn't grown back, poor
lad. He is a very handsome completely tabby boy.
He is nice to the children when they want to interact with him, but he
prefers not to. Don't blame him, they are 10, 7, 4 and I've had enough of
them after an hour, the poor chap has to live with them.
As for me, he was not impressed either. "Hello, Tigs" I said. He gave me a
disdainful stare and disappeared out of the cat flap.
Tweed