Kitty Thanksgiving?
jmcquown
in the U.S. or are expats or who have friends who want a "traditional" Usian
Thanksgiving... what about your cats?
Persia doesn't get people food. She never has (except what she managed to
steal off my plate when she was much younger and I left my plate untended on
the coffee table for about 10 seconds!) But I've got Fancy Feast 'Turkey &
Giblets' for her on November 25th :)
Anything special planned for your kitties?
Jill
Storrmmee
Lee
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Kraut / Larry Stark
wrote:
I will most likely give mine a couple jars of Turkey & Turkey Gravy
baby food that my grandkids have around!! Maybe a little real turkey
for the ones that want some.
Arthur Shapiro
>Anything special planned for your kitties?
I'm quite hostile toward religious holidays, so neither my cats nor I will do
anything out of the ordinary for the day. They shall be as pampered as ever.
Art
CatNipped
she was very, very old, had trouble walking and was, at that time,
completely blind, loved turkey *SO* much that, without my knowledge, she had
dragged herself upstairs* to get her portion of turkey on Thanksgiving day.
We didn't know then, but that was her last Thanksgiving with her.. That girl
loved her turkey! Odd, but for unrelated reasons, that was the last big
Thanksgiving dinner I ever cooked.
*She was so old and feeble that we fed her separately downstairs to keep her
from having to fight her arthritis pain in order to eat. But the smell of
the roasting turkey overcame her pain. Knowing how much she loved her
turkey, I had already put some aside just for her. But the smell was just
too good for her to wait.
--
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LOL! Thanksgiving isn't a "religious holiday".
Jill
Kraut / Larry Stark
wrote:
>>>Anything special planned for your kitties?
>>
>> I'm quite hostile toward religious holidays, so neither my cats nor I will
>> do
>> anything out of the ordinary for the day. They shall be as pampered as
>> ever.
>>
>> Art
>
>
>LOL! Thanksgiving isn't a "religious holiday".
>
>Jill
I never thought of it as a "Religous" holiday either.
bastX...@sonic.net
Religious?
--
It is better to give than to lend, and it costs about the same.
-- Unknown
Granby
MLB
I am sure that in your kind heart you are thankful you are able to do
it. I know I am.
I'll also be very thankful when this big storm is over -- the wind is
really howling today. I think of a wind like this blowing in new germs
from all over the world-- makes me nervous. Best wishes, MLB
Pat
Part of the fun of a fancy meal (for us, any meal that contains any
meat or fish is a "fancy" one) is tossing tidbits to the cats. It's
also an opportunity to teach them not to beg obnoxiously. Only a few
still try to jump onto the table. They can take a long time to train.
The ones who are most fond of whatever treat is being offered will
come up and take it from a hand.
From one year to the next I can't remember which of the cats are big
fans of turkey. We don't usually have it more than once a year. It is
a real treat for the hoomins as well as the cats.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
I used to - bought the really expensive, single-serving containers of
supposedly "gourmet" moist food. After a few holidays when the cats
turned up their little noses at the supposed "treat" and refused to eat
it, I gave up, and feed them whatever is next in line in the stack of
canned food. (It's particularly insulting, when you've gone out of your
way to please them, when they not only refuse to eat it, but make
burying motions around the dish!)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
"Religious holidays"??????? We're talking a national, not a religious
holiday! So far as I know, giving thanks for a bountiful harvest has
its place in ALL religions (including Native American, since according
to all reports the Pilgrims celebrated along with their Indian neighbors)!
Arthur Shapiro
>
>"Religious holidays"???????
Really folks - if the Pilgrims had called it "Sound Agricultural Practices
Day", I'd be overjoyed. Doesn't the first syllable "Thanks", by definition,
make it a religious holiday?? I'm happy to get the day off, of course.
I usually purchase a turkey because they're so inexpensive for a week or two,
and keep it in the freezer for a few weeks to avoid any association with the
holidays. Haven't done it yet, as the deals aren't particularly spectacular
this year.
The cats aren't generally wild about canned turkey, although Giovanni will
usually eat the Friskies shredded turkey. I can't remember if they go for
real turkey, as I don't buy it very often.
BTW, I saw a CraigsList ad for an orange tabby female yesterday, and decided
it would be OK to go back to four cats. I've been down to three since Thalia
died a year ago. But she had already found a home by the time I emailed the
person.
Art
bastX...@sonic.net
>>"Religious holidays"???????
> Really folks - if the Pilgrims had called it "Sound Agricultural Practices
> Day", I'd be overjoyed. Doesn't the first syllable "Thanks", by definition,
> make it a religious holiday??
I understand your point, but I don't think it's necessarily true. It's
possible to feel thankful without there being any specific entity to be
thankful *to*. If you narrowly miss getting hit by a bus, you'd probably
feel thankful, but that doesn't automatically imply you believe in God. :)
Actually, I find "appreciation" to work better for me than "thankfulness".
There is just something so obsequious about "gratitude" that it kinda makes
me want to barf. At the same time, I can see the benefits of staying aware
of what's good in my life and taking the time to notice and acknowledge it,
especially considering what a grump I am most of the time. It's valuable
to feel glad about what I have, without an attitude of smugness, entitlement,
or the belief that I did it all myself. I suppose that's not really much
different from "gratitude", I just like the language better. ("Gratitude"
just gives me this image of a pathetic person getting kicked in the teeth,
smiling and bowing and saying, "Oh thank you, thank you kind master, for
not killing me." LOL.)
Enjoy your day off. :)
Joyce
--
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he
grows up, he'll never be able to merge his car onto a freeway.
MLB
IIRC you have a Vet Hospital fairly close. That would be a good place
to ask about acquiring another kitty. The Vet and helpers there are
usually aware of cats that need a good home. Best wishes. MLB
CatNipped
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Typical feline insult - I've never, ever seen a healthy d*g refuse anything
even remotely resembling food. LOL! ;>
jmcquown
> In article <BradnRXUI-0Th3HR...@earthlink.com>,
> evg...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>
>>"Religious holidays"???????
>
> Really folks - if the Pilgrims had called it "Sound Agricultural Practices
> Day", I'd be overjoyed. Doesn't the first syllable "Thanks", by
> definition,
> make it a religious holiday?? I'm happy to get the day off, of course.
>
prayer over dinner. I certainly don't. That doesn't mean I can't
appreciate a day that celebrates a good harvest and good food :)
> I usually purchase a turkey because they're so inexpensive for a week or
> two,
> and keep it in the freezer for a few weeks to avoid any association with
> the
> holidays. Haven't done it yet, as the deals aren't particularly
> spectacular
> this year.
>
I've been hearing complaints about the price of turkey this year. And the
lack of "spend $XX and get a free turkey" deals, which used to be quite
prevalent. Personally, I don't care for turkey. I usally roast a cornish
game hen. Persia likes the turkey & giblets Fancy Feast so that's what
she'll get as a treat.
Good luck in your search for an additional cat.
Jill
Arthur Shapiro
> I usally roast a cornish game hen.
Don't think I've ever had one of those. This may be an almost-impossible
question to answer, and I hate ending a sentence with a preposition, BUT: what
are they like?
Art
Gandalf
wrote:
>For those of you who are celebrating Thanksgiving this week, whether you're
I was planning on giving Lorelei as much Fancy Feast as she can eat!
She favors fish based flavors; but perhaps I will buy some turkey, and
see if she likes it :)
~~~~~~~~~~~~ >^..^<
"Life without cats would be only marginally worth living."
-TC, in loving memory of the unmercifully, relentlessly, sweet calico
kitty, Kenzie.
Every day was a treasure with Kenzie; I tried to treat them that way.
There would only be so many, and now, there will never, ever, be any
more :(
How you behave towards cats here below determines your status in Heaven.
- Robert Heinlein
Happy
discriminating palate has she - pushes undesirable goodies away with
her nose! Then looks at you like "Are you serious? really? REALLY? I
have never seen anything like it...
Sophia
CatNipped
sit for her until they could get back into their house. Digger got a small
injury from fighting with the neighbor's d*g through my fence. The vet gave
me pills for him and I was *very* nervous about having to pill a d*g when I
had only experienced trying to pill a cat. You know how hard it was? I
would wrap the pill inside a little bit of smooshed white bread, toss it in
his general direction and he'd snatch it out of the air before it hit the
ground...*BREAD*???!! !
--
Hugs,
CatNipped
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Granby
eat the meat, cheese, lick the ketchup and give you back the bun, lettuce
and pickle.
MLB
a crumb on the floor when he was alive. MLB
Shiral
Oh, if they're lucky, I'll bring my kids some fresh turkey for a
treat. =o) Dmitri has never had it, but figures anything that Mom
eats has to taste pretty good! Francesca is hardly disinterested
herself....
Melissa
Storrmmee
food, he would spit out the pickles, but, if he had just eaten kibble
because he was hungry, steak wouldn't tempt him... undesirable food stuffs
went to the left of the food bowl on the matt, his weight was always in a
five lb range his whole, sadly, too short life, Lee
Storrmmee
over last year, the "BIG DEAL" in the paper here was spend 40 dollars and
get a ten lb turkey for nine dollars. Leenews:8l34e9...@mid.individual.net...
MLB
In the news today,we were told about charities giving thousands of
turkeys to the needy - one company donated 4,000 turkeys. I guess the
higher prices are meant to offset those gifts.
Storrmmee
freezer as we both enjoy turkey and DH would get big birds, debone and
roast, we tried to get six so we had it all year round, this year with no
freezer that won't happen, and with no oven for the first time ever we had
to order one of those precooked meals, its gonna be interesting for sure,
Lee
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jmcquown
LOL That reminds me of an old joke. This isn't the time for me to tell it
;)
Cornish game hens (aka rock cornish game hens) are very small chickens.
They usually weigh about 1.25-1.5 lbs. and are nearly all dark meat. The
breast meat is white but, unlike turkey, doesn't have the tendency to be
dry. They are also the perfect size for cooking for 1-2 people. I like
leftovers as much as the next person, but it used to be nearly impossible to
get rid of all the turkey leftovers. Turkey sandwiches, turkey pot pie,
turkey tetrazzini, turkey soup... there's a limit how much turkey a person
can take :) YMMV.
Jill
Storrmmee
and freeze after cooked, can have roasted dinner, as well as those other
things, never had too much turkey, lol, but i like the dinner you are having
also, my mom is fond of "chucas, " which is going towards quail, i am not as
fond of those, but you might try them if you ever see them somewhere, Leenews:8l42ro...@mid.individual.net...
Jane
>
> Anything special planned for your kitties?
>
resembling 'people food' (and she's fussy about her cat food, too!),
I'll just take the time to sit down and give her extra pettings.
In other words, it'll be a day like any other.
Jane
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Winnie
> in the U.S. or are expats or who have friends who want a "traditional" Usian
> Thanksgiving... what about your cats?
>
> Persia doesn't get people food. She never has (except what she managed to
> steal off my plate when she was much younger and I left my plate untended on
> the coffee table for about 10 seconds!) But I've got Fancy Feast 'Turkey &
> Giblets' for her on November 25th :)
>
>
When we had our Canadian Thanksgiving last month, I gave Rusty some of
my
turkey. That was the first time he had people food. He wasn't sure
what it was at first as his food always came in a can, or dry pellets.
But he ate
it. It was also the last time he had food I cooked myself as he went
to RB 2 days
later.
Lesley
> I was planning on giving Lorelei as much Fancy Feast as she can eat!
>
Looking at pictures of her I think that's rather a lot of FF! :-)
How are things with you two?
Lesley
Slave of the Fabulous Furballs
Kraut / Larry Stark
Boy that makes the wife worth a lot more this year then last!!! LOL
Sorry could not resist that!!!
>i heard some news report that said turkey was up an average of 78 cents lb
>over last year, the "BIG DEAL" in the paper here was spend 40 dollars and
>get a ten lb turkey for nine dollars. Lee
>>>>
Storrmmee
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bastX...@sonic.net
> Don't think I've ever had one of those. This may be an almost-impossible
> question to answer, and I hate ending a sentence with a preposition,
> BUT: what are they like?
I have good news for you: you didn't. :)
Joyce
--
Cats are rather delicate creatures and they are subject to a good
many ailments, but I never heard of one who suffered from insomnia.
-- Joseph Wood Krutch
jmcquown
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> I remember when, after Katrina, my daughter left Digger here for me to d*g
> sit for her until they could get back into their house. Digger got a
> small injury from fighting with the neighbor's d*g through my fence. The
> vet gave me pills for him and I was *very* nervous about having to pill a
> d*g when I had only experienced trying to pill a cat. You know how hard
> it was? I would wrap the pill inside a little bit of smooshed white
> bread, toss it in his general direction and he'd snatch it out of the air
> before it hit the ground...*BREAD*???!! !
>
> --
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
I used to buy smalll blocks of Velveeta specifically to pill my dog Sampson.
I'd tear off a little piece, form it around the pill and put it in his dish.
He'd scarf it down and never knew there was a pill in it. Pilling a cat is
much more difficult. They're too smart to fall for such tricks :) But I
figured out how to pill a cat. I've mentioned this before. You have to
first coax the cat into your lap. Then you hold on with your left arm so
they can't squirm away and gently pry open the mouth. Pop the pill in with
your left hand, clamp the mouth shut and gently blow on their nose. They
will reflexively swallow.
Better yet, get the vet to prescribe liquid medicine you can squirt in their
mouth.
Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
I'd say they most closely resemble "squab" (aka pigeon). Don't expect a
"gamy" taste (like duck or pheasant), the flavor is pretty bland, more
like chicken than turkey. Unless you have guests with enormous
appetites, ignore the recipe directions that tell you to allow one bird
per person. (I find half of one is adequate, and there's less waste -
I found out the hard way, having carefully removed all the meat from the
bones, that my cats won't touch the left-overs.)
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Happy wrote:
> Oh, then sometime you must meet my rescue d*ggie! Quite a
> discriminating palate has she - pushes undesirable goodies away with
> her nose! Then looks at you like "Are you serious? really? REALLY? I
> have never seen anything like it...
A friend of mine had a cocker spaniel the vet decided was anemic, and
should have veggies in her diet. Deedee didn't agree. That dog would
carefully eat the meat, leaving all the vegetables in her dish!
jmcquown
True, they are small chickens. (BTW, I happen to like duck, 1/2 smoked duck
would have been my second choice.) I allow 1/2 cornish hen per person and
still expect leftovers. But there is no waste since you can make stock from
any leftover poultry. Just add water and vegetables :)
Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Storrmmee wrote:
> i heard some news report that said turkey was up an average of 78 cents lb
> over last year, the "BIG DEAL" in the paper here was spend 40 dollars and
> get a ten lb turkey for nine dollars. Lee
TV ads for a couple of the markets here have been advertising frozen
turkeys for 29 cents a pound with a minimum purchase of $25 (which isn't
an enormous amount of money with food prices what they are, these days).
One of the two clearly states the minimum purchase required, the other
hides it in fine print that goes by so fast you can barely read it.
(Wonder how many people buying less than the required $25 simply tell
the checker "Forget it!" and leave their entire order on the counter,
when advised they don't qualify?)
jmcquown
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Oh how sad! What a potent memory for you. I'm glad you fed him something
new, and he liked it, before he went to the RB.
Jill
CatNipped
best deal we had this year was buy it for $0.95 a pound in time enough for
it to thaw by Thanksgiving - or buy it for $0.25 if we waited until
Wednesday afternoon to get it.
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>
> "Arthur Shapiro" <art.s...@unisys.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <BradnRXUI-0Th3HR...@earthlink.com>,
>> evg...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Religious holidays"???????
>>
>> Really folks - if the Pilgrims had called it "Sound Agricultural
>> Practices
>> Day", I'd be overjoyed. Doesn't the first syllable "Thanks", by
>> definition,
>> make it a religious holiday?? I'm happy to get the day off, of course.
>>
> Never heard that one before. No one is asking you to say grace or recite
> a prayer over dinner. I certainly don't. That doesn't mean I can't
> appreciate a day that celebrates a good harvest and good food :)
>
>> I usually purchase a turkey because they're so inexpensive for a week or
>> two,
>> and keep it in the freezer for a few weeks to avoid any association with
>> the
>> holidays. Haven't done it yet, as the deals aren't particularly
>> spectacular
>> this year.
>>
> I've been hearing complaints about the price of turkey this year. And the
> lack of "spend $XX and get a free turkey" deals, which used to be quite
> prevalent. Personally, I don't care for turkey. I usally roast a cornish
Gandalf
wrote:
Not much change at all.
She just hides in the basement or in my bedroom, sneaking out to eat
kibble, when I can't see her :(
Marina
> In article<BradnRXUI-0Th3HR...@earthlink.com>, evg...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
>>
>> "Religious holidays"???????
>
> Really folks - if the Pilgrims had called it "Sound Agricultural Practices
> Day", I'd be overjoyed. Doesn't the first syllable "Thanks", by definition,
> make it a religious holiday??
I must have misunderstood Thanksgiving completely, then. I thought it
was in memory of the Indians who helped the Pilgrims when they weren't
doing very well, to thank them for the help and food they shared. This
was what I was taught when I lived in the US as a child.
--
Marina, Miranda and Caliban.
In loving memory of Frank and Nikki.
Wayne Mitchell
>I must have misunderstood Thanksgiving completely, then. I thought it
>was in memory of the Indians who helped the Pilgrims when they weren't
>doing very well, to thank them for the help and food they shared. This
>was what I was taught when I lived in the US as a child.
We here in the US were all taught that, but there's not much truth in
it. There was no national Thanksgiving day until 240 years after those
two that were observed by the pilgrims, though there were sporadic days
of thanks declared by various states at various times.
When Lincoln declared the first national Thanksgiving day, there's no
question that it was intended as a somewhat religious observation --
even though Lincoln himself was not religious. But I think the reaction
that Art got here to the suggestion that it is a religious holiday
indicates how little it is currently viewed in that light. It's my
favorite holiday, and I'm an atheist. (I just wish they'd move it up to
October where it belongs.)
--
Wayne M.
Winnie
In Canada, Thanksgiving is in October. It is on the second Monday of
October.
> --
>
> Wayne M.
Ted Davis
> We used to have the "buy $25 groceries and get a 25 pound free Turkey".
> The best deal we had this year was buy it for $0.95 a pound in time
> enough for it to thaw by Thanksgiving - or buy it for $0.25 if we waited
> until Wednesday afternoon to get it.
I bought mine last week for $0.68 per pound (at Walmart). It's pretty
well thawed now - the brining will take care of the last of it. I was
some frozen ones priced at $1.29 and $1.49 Tuesday afternoon - fresh ones
were even higher.
THe manual for my microwave says it can thaw (and cook) a turkey, but I
haven't tried that - it's too non-traditional.
--
Ted Davis (tda...@mst.edu)
Storrmmee
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Storrmmee
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Marina wrote:
> On 23/11/2010 22:11, Arthur Shapiro wrote:
>> In article<BradnRXUI-0Th3HR...@earthlink.com>,
>> evg...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Religious holidays"???????
>>
>> Really folks - if the Pilgrims had called it "Sound Agricultural
>> Practices
>> Day", I'd be overjoyed. Doesn't the first syllable "Thanks", by
>> definition,
>> make it a religious holiday??
>
> I must have misunderstood Thanksgiving completely, then. I thought it
> was in memory of the Indians who helped the Pilgrims when they weren't
> doing very well, to thank them for the help and food they shared. This
> was what I was taught when I lived in the US as a child.
Exactly! It was a celebration of a bountiful harvest, after enduring
near-starvation before the crops could be planted and harvested. The
Indians had taught the Pilgrims how to plant corn and other crops that
were foreign to Europe before Europeans settled in the "New World",
consequently they were invited to share in the feast.
>
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Wayne Mitchell wrote:
> When Lincoln declared the first national Thanksgiving day, there's no
> question that it was intended as a somewhat religious observation --
> even though Lincoln himself was not religious. But I think the reaction
> that Art got here to the suggestion that it is a religious holiday
> indicates how little it is currently viewed in that light. It's my
> favorite holiday, and I'm an atheist. (I just wish they'd move it up to
> October where it belongs.)
Well, the only reason we celebrate Christmas on December 25th is because
it was already a Roman celebration for the birth of the soldiers' god,
Mithras! (Who was supposedly born in a cave on that date.) And of
course, nearly ALL religions celebrated the winter Solstice, so it was
easy to add another reason to the existing festivities. (I'm not sure
anyone really KNOWS when Christ was actually born, but probably NOT "in
the bleak midwinter" as the carol proclaims.)
bastX...@sonic.net
> When Lincoln declared the first national Thanksgiving day, there's no
> question that it was intended as a somewhat religious observation --
> even though Lincoln himself was not religious. But I think the reaction
> that Art got here to the suggestion that it is a religious holiday
> indicates how little it is currently viewed in that light. It's my
> favorite holiday, and I'm an atheist. (I just wish they'd move it up to
> October where it belongs.)
Maybe it belongs in October in Maine, but not in California. :)
Joyce
--
Taxes: Money you complain about giving the government, to pay for
services whose absence you would complain about.
-- John O'Hanlon
bastX...@sonic.net
> Well, the only reason we celebrate Christmas on December 25th is because
> it was already a Roman celebration for the birth of the soldiers' god,
> Mithras! (Who was supposedly born in a cave on that date.) And of
> course, nearly ALL religions celebrated the winter Solstice, so it was
> easy to add another reason to the existing festivities. (I'm not sure
> anyone really KNOWS when Christ was actually born, but probably NOT "in
> the bleak midwinter" as the carol proclaims.)
Not to mention that Bethlehem probably doesn't even have winter as
Europe knows it, bleak or otherwise.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Storrmmee wrote:
> it wasn't an official/regularly scheduled holiday until 1941 Lee
I beg to differ! It had been an official holiday ever since Lincoln
proclaimed it to be one. In 1941 it was simply changed from "the last
Thursday" to "the fourth Thursday" in November. My mom was born on
Thanksgiving Day, 1894 - November 29th, that year. (Mom never really
forgave FDR for changing it from Lincoln's "last Thursday" to the
present "fourth Thursday", since it meant her birthday could never again
fall on Thanksgiving Day!)
Jack Campin - bogus address
>> but probably NOT "in the bleak midwinter" as the carol proclaims.)
> Not to mention that Bethlehem probably doesn't even have winter as
> Europe knows it, bleak or otherwise.
My father was a motorcycle dispatch rider for British Intelligence
in Palestine late in WW2. He described doing a long ride (Damascus
to Jerusalem or thereabouts) in the middle of winter. The really
icky bit was that he was wearing a canvas rain cape, going head on
into driving snow. The snow settled in his lap and slowly melted,
dripping through the canvas into his crotch.
So if those wise men had come any distance from the East at that time
of year it might not have been a fun trip, even though they might
have been more appropriately dressed than British Army tropical kit.
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If I were your mom, I'd be glad of that. People I know whose birthdays
are on major holidays often feel their birthday gets short shrift because
everyone's busy celebrating the holiday. If they try to have a party,
nobody's available because they're all with their families. I'm just
glad my birthday is nowhere near any important (US) holidays. It's also
a time when most people aren't away on vacation, because school has just
started. The only conflicts I come up against is that, from time to time,
Rosh Hashana and even sometimes Yom Kippur fall right on my b'day (the
latter happened this year). I'm not observant myself, but some of my
friends are. However, I can still have a party, it's just smaller. :)
Joyce
--
Anyone who has accustomed himself to regard the life of any living
creature as worthless is in danger of arriving also at the idea of
worthless human lives. -- Albert Schweitzer
MLB
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> > Storrmmee wrote:
> >> it wasn't an official/regularly scheduled holiday until 1941 Lee
>
> > I beg to differ! It had been an official holiday ever since Lincoln
> > proclaimed it to be one. In 1941 it was simply changed from "the last
> > Thursday" to "the fourth Thursday" in November. My mom was born on
> > Thanksgiving Day, 1894 - November 29th, that year. (Mom never really
> > forgave FDR for changing it from Lincoln's "last Thursday" to the
> > present "fourth Thursday", since it meant her birthday could never again
> > fall on Thanksgiving Day!)
>
> If I were your mom, I'd be glad of that. People I know whose birthdays
> are on major holidays often feel their birthday gets short shrift because
> everyone's busy celebrating the holiday. If they try to have a party,
> nobody's available because they're all with their families. I'm just
> glad my birthday is nowhere near any important (US) holidays. It's also
> a time when most people aren't away on vacation, because school has just
> started. The only conflicts I come up against is that, from time to time,
> Rosh Hashana and even sometimes Yom Kippur fall right on my b'day (the
> latter happened this year). I'm not observant myself, but some of my
> friends are. However, I can still have a party, it's just smaller. :)
>
> Joyce
>
Today, Nov. 25, is my son's birthday. They consider the Thanksgiving
day celebration as also an enhanced celebration of his birthday. MLB
John F. Eldredge
The account about the shepherds would suggest that it was the warm part
of the year, since the shepherds were described as staying out all night
in the fields, with their flocks. In the winter, the custom was to herd
the sheep into a walled enclosure each night, where they would have some
protection from the wind, and the shepherd would be able to spend the
night indoors, in a house or hut adjoining the sheepfold.
--
John F. Eldredge -- jo...@jfeldredge.com
"Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly
is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
bastX...@sonic.net wrote:
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> > Storrmmee wrote:
> >> it wasn't an official/regularly scheduled holiday until 1941 Lee
>
> > I beg to differ! It had been an official holiday ever since Lincoln
> > proclaimed it to be one. In 1941 it was simply changed from "the last
> > Thursday" to "the fourth Thursday" in November. My mom was born on
> > Thanksgiving Day, 1894 - November 29th, that year. (Mom never really
> > forgave FDR for changing it from Lincoln's "last Thursday" to the
> > present "fourth Thursday", since it meant her birthday could never again
> > fall on Thanksgiving Day!)
>
> If I were your mom, I'd be glad of that. People I know whose birthdays
> are on major holidays often feel their birthday gets short shrift because
> everyone's busy celebrating the holiday.
Well, my mom was the sort of person who assumed all the festivities were
in celebration of her birthday, not the other way around!
CATherine
wrote:
>For those of you who are celebrating Thanksgiving this week, whether you're
>in the U.S. or are expats or who have friends who want a "traditional" Usian
>Thanksgiving... what about your cats?
>
>Persia doesn't get people food. She never has (except what she managed to
>steal off my plate when she was much younger and I left my plate untended on
>the coffee table for about 10 seconds!) But I've got Fancy Feast 'Turkey &
>Giblets' for her on November 25th :)
>
>Anything special planned for your kitties?
>
>Jill
I thought about giving my cats a plate of turkey. But, they prefer to
get hand-fed off my plate; or catch "droppings" when I am slicing or
boning the carcass!
--
CATherine