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Tom Casby

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.


Tuohy

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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In <4odr9q$g...@decius.ultra.net> t...@ma.ultranet.com (Tom Casby)
writes:
>
>Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
>rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
>those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.
>
No,they are just part of the mix.
Try to give new foods slowly.

Colleen

jack j greenhouse

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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If a bird won't eat pellets(some birds never will) nutriberries are the
next bet thing-as long as you also give veggies too.

jack

John Hedtke

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May 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/28/96
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t...@ma.ultranet.com (Tom Casby) wrote:

>Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
>rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
>those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.

I've been using Nutri-Berries as a staple for my conures for some
years and they seem to be fine. Lately I've started mixing bulk mix
and Nutri-Berries in the bowl simply to cut down the cost, but I've
also bout NutriBerries in bulk from the company and they're much, much
cheaper. Phone the 800 number and ask about bulk purchases.

Yours Truly,

John Hedtke


tar...@getnet.com

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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t...@ma.ultranet.com (Tom Casby) wrote:

>Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
>rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
>those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.

I think Dr. Lafeber would say YES! <G> Aren't the Nutri-berries seeds also?
Have you tried the Avi-cakes. They are a mixture of seeds and pellets held
together with molasses. I feed them to our babies when weaning and they really
love them. Our pet does too, but I limit them as they are quite costly. I know
they are meant to be fed as the whole diet or as a transition to pellets. So,
if you are really concerned with feeding more pellets, you might try them.

----
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Sparky's home page is the place to go,
If you want information on the grey Congo.

http://www.getnet.com/~tarnold/sparky.html



Dave Worley

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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On Tue, 28 May 1996 02:07:50 GMT, Tom Casby from t...@ma.ultranet.com
said...

>
>Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
>rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
>those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.

Nutri-berries are OK but have some fat content, try mixing it up with
fruits and vegetables. As an aside, my Doberman LOVES nutri-berries and
will eat them all if she can get ahold of them!

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D. Henschel

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Well, according to their own literature, they are, but take that with a
grain of salt. I feed Nutri-berries as occasional treats, but I have used
them as daily diet for a few days while out of pellets once or twice. The
birds had healthy droppings, and were active and normally cheerfull.

Patricia D. Glenn

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May 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/29/96
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Dave Worley wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 May 1996 02:07:50 GMT, Tom Casby from t...@ma.ultranet.com
> said...
> >
> >Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
> >rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
> >those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.
>
> Nutri-berries are OK but have some fat content, try mixing it up with
> fruits and vegetables. As an aside, my Doberman LOVES nutri-berries and
> will eat them all if she can get ahold of them!
>
> --
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I thought I was the only one whose dog ate Nutriberries! My poodle, Pauly sits there
and "wishes" them out of my hand when I'm filling the bird's food dish. He loves them!
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pat foley

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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In
<Pine.A32.3.92a.960529...@homer23.u.washington.edu>

"D. Henschel" <hens...@u.washington.edu> writes:
>
>Well, according to their own literature, they are, but take that with
a
>grain of salt. I feed Nutri-berries as occasional treats, but I have
used
>them as daily diet for a few days while out of pellets once or twice.
The
>birds had healthy droppings, and were active and normally cheerfull.
>
>

I was very disappointed with nutriberries. Among my three birds, the
budgie wouldn't touch them, even crushed. Bandit (BFA) also wouldn't
touch them. Chico (DYH) who IS a seed junkie, and whom I hoped would
at least eat them as a interim on the road to pellets, shredded them,
but didn't eat them.

On the food front, Bandit will nibble on all pellets, but seems to
favor (sob, over the expense! Harrisons) Chico has shredded and
possibly eaten a few Harrisons, I can't see that he's eaten any others.
The budge will eat Zupreem. I guess that means I'm buying Harrisons
for the Amazons. I know I've never eaten anything that cost that much
a pound!

Lafaber's literature says that their nutriberries are 100%
nutritionally complete. My birds just don't seem to like them.

Pat

Martin St. John

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!

My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!

Amanda
The...@ix.netcom.com

CKrof

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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patf...@ix.netcom.com(pat foley) wrote:
......

>I was very disappointed with nutriberries. Among my three birds, the
>budgie wouldn't touch them, even crushed. Bandit (BFA) also wouldn't
>touch them. Chico (DYH) who IS a seed junkie, and whom I hoped would
>at least eat them as a interim on the road to pellets, shredded them,
>but didn't eat them.
>
............

>
>Lafaber's literature says that their nutriberries are 100%
>nutritionally complete. My birds just don't seem to like them.
>
>Pat

I have to laugh! Birds are so different, just like us humans. My BFA will
do anything for a Nutriberry. Backflips, all kinds of talking, dancing,
anything he can think of, eyes always on that Nutriberry.

But, he's not big on pellets. he eats tons of fresh fruit & veggies, some
grains, so perhaps the Nutriberries fill a void in his diet, like
necessary fat? Bottom line, HE LOVES THEM! Carol :)


Dan Fletcher

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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Count in a lab mix. Bear, my 9 year old lab-terrier mix,
LOVES nutriberries. My Senegal, Benny, knows this, and when he's had
his fill, will drop the uneaten portion to the floor
and lean over and twist his head to watch as Bear runs over
and eats it. VERY cute!

Patricia D. Glenn wrote:


>
> Dave Worley wrote:
> > fruits and vegetables. As an aside, my Doberman LOVES nutri-berries and
> > will eat them all if she can get ahold of them!
> >

Nicole Roseberry

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May 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/30/96
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Hey now, that's not fair. :) I've had much success with Nutri-Berries and
the other Lafeber products. To each his own. :)
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Chad W. Hinton

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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the...@ix.netcom.com(Martin St. John) wrote:

>Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!

>My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!

>Amanda
>The...@ix.netcom.com

I have two 'tiels (Sparky and Tilly) that love them! They do set them
up on the edge of the cage to eat them, occasionaly pushing them
through the cage bars.

Chad
chi...@nwark.com


Adam Sundor

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Martin St. John (the...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!

: My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!

: Amanda
: The...@ix.netcom.com


Funny thing, did not like them at all. Wondered about that.
Maybe not a fresh batch? I was not too thrilled by them also
upon looking at them. Wonder if they were stale of something.
Adam Sundor

MCzekala

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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My U2 hates Nutriberries, but he loves my homemade seed balls using the
recipe from the Fowl Play cookbook.

Michele

CKrof

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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>> Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!
>>
>> My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!
>>
>> Amanda
>> The...@ix.netcom.com

>Hey now, that's not fair. :) I've had much success with Nutri-Berries and

>the other Lafeber products. To each his own. :)

Ditto here. My birds even love the Lafeber pellets, and they're not
colored or in fun shapes or anything like that. I mix Kaytee Rainbow,
Lafeber, Pretty Bird, and whatever I have. But, Lafeber is their first
pick of the bunch. Carol K. :)

Troy Bull

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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D. Henschel wrote:
>
> Well, according to their own literature, they are, but take that with a
> grain of salt. I feed Nutri-berries as occasional treats, but I have used
> them as daily diet for a few days while out of pellets once or twice. The
> birds had healthy droppings, and were active and normally cheerfull.
>
> On Tue, 28 May 1996, Tom Casby wrote:
>
> > Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
> > rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
> > those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.

You may want to try Avia cakes, they are a combination of Nutri Berrys and Pellets all mashed up
together to look like a nutri berry (kinda) (my birds will eat the pellets, not nutri berrys, or
avia cakes).
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jack j greenhouse

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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:

>On 30 May 1996, Martin St. John wrote:
>
>> Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!
>>
>> My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!
>>
>> Amanda
>> The...@ix.netcom.com

Thats a bit narrow minded. My CAG and YCM love them- its the first thing
they eat when I feed them,even over their fruits and vegies. Since they
will only eat a little bit of pellets(Zupreem only- they refuse to eat
ALL other pellets), at least I know they are getting a more ballanced
diet.
jack

Roxanne Goldberg

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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In <4omuqf$9...@netnews.upenn.edu> sund...@assets.wharton.upenn.edu
(Adam Sundor) writes:
>
>Martin St. John (the...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!
>
>: My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!
>
>: Amanda
>: The...@ix.netcom.com
>
>
>Funny thing, did not like them at all. Wondered about that.
>Maybe not a fresh batch? I was not too thrilled by them also
>upon looking at them. Wonder if they were stale of something.
>Adam Sundor

My Cutie likes to toss them out of the cage. No eating these for my
little cockateil!
Roxanne
P.S. Were they supposed to be a play toy or food?
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Allynn Wilkinson

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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Roxanne Goldberg wrote:
> >
> >Funny thing, did not like them at all. Wondered about that.
> >Maybe not a fresh batch? I was not too thrilled by them also
> >upon looking at them. Wonder if they were stale of something.
> >Adam Sundor
>
> My Cutie likes to toss them out of the cage. No eating these for my
> little cockateil!
> Roxanne
> P.S. Were they supposed to be a play toy or food?
> --
> My TAG absolutely hates to *eat* them but he *loves* to toss them! I,
too, wondered if I might have a 'stale batch'. What's *your* bird's
'world record distance'? Basil has thrown them about 20 feet across the
apartment.

Perhaps we should devise contests for a "Parrot Olymipics"! We could
have 'nutriberry tossing', of course and 'dish tipping', maybe
'mega-poopy fake out' (where you try to get your parrot from his cage to
the paper without 'incident') and 'button removal time-trials'. The
possibilities are endless!

Allynn

Jon P. Fishback

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May 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM5/31/96
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In article <31ADCF...@itsa.ucsf.edu>,


I have a golden retriever and a german shepherd. Both of the dog's eat any of
the bird's food that hits the ground. Bird grabs big handfulls of food, drops
on floor I'm convinced just to watch the dogs run over. Dog's get ahold of a
jalepeno pepper piece every once in a while. This does keep them away for a
couple of hours.


Carrie

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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Both my DYHA and my green cheek conure love nutri-berries.
It was the only thing that got them off seed. I hide the berries
under their pellets and veggies but they know that. They go digging
for their berries and eat them first thing. Later when all the nutri
berries are all gone they reluctantly eat the pellets and veggies.
I don't use too many just enough to satisfy their seed craving and
let the pellets and veggies be their staple.

Carrie

Diane H. Berman

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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The company will send you free samples of nutriberries if you call their
800#. My Military (Jake) adores them. He will tongue them and then nibble
at them
and eat them completely. My BFA (Tookie) will have nothing to do with them.
The dog appreciates that and snarfs thrm before thy hit the ground. (she
also waits for anything else that falls)

I guess birds have very particular tastes.

Diane

On 31 May 1996, Adam Sundor wrote:

> Martin St. John (the...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> : Most of them end up on the floor after being thrown out!
>
> : My birds (all 24 of them) HATE IT!
>
> : Amanda
> : The...@ix.netcom.com
>
>

jes...@djo.com

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Jun 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/1/96
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JG>If a bird won't eat pellets(some birds never will) nutriberries are the
JG>next bet thing-as long as you also give veggies too.

How so? Nutriberries are mostly seeds, they aren't a complete food
source, only slightly more so than plain seed.

Jesica
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Tiel crazy

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Jun 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/2/96
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>I thought I was the only one whose dog ate nutri-berries

My Maltese also loves nutri-berries. She waits for the 'too to drop some!

Jim Buscher

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t...@ma.ultranet.com (Tom Casby) wrote:

>Are Nutri-berries appropriate as a staple food? My Ringneck would
>rather fall over dead from hunger than eat a pellet. Bud she loves
>those Nutri-berries, even more than seeds.


Tom,

To answer your question... Yes! Nutri-Berries are appropriate as a
staple food. They were specifically developed to fill this role.

Nutri-Berries contain vitamins, minerals, protein and carbohydrates to
satisfy your birds' daily needs. The seeds in the Nutri-Berries are
the 'vehicle' by which the nutrients are provided. Most of the actual
nutrients are contained in the binding agent that holds the seeds
together. And, since birds love to 'work for their food', the berries
provide stimulation and beak exercise in addition to nutrition.

If your ringneck is eating Nutri-Berries, she's getting the nutrients
she needs.

Best wishes,


Jim

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Jim Buscher

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Jim Buscher

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Phil Schwartz

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My Green Cheek Amazon likes Nutri-berries. They aren't his favorite food
and in fact, at first he didn't like them at all.
After a week or so of putting them side-by-side his regular food
(pellet, seed, etc...) he seems to enjoy them enough for me to purchase them.

Lafeber sent me a sample of both Nutri-berries and an Avi-Cake and he
DEVOURED the Avi-Cake in no time at all. That is now on my must buy list!

Phil

Cherane Pefley, CAS

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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Hello, I guess I missed the ingredients in nutri-berries. Will
someone take the time to write it. Thank you for the trouble


Cherane Pefley, CAS

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Jun 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/4/96
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Does this company have a baby formula? What is it called?

THanks Cherane


Martin St. John

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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PLEASE STOP THIS ADVERTISING:

I am tired of this constant "trolling" --- i.e. a make believe *true
inquiry* followed by advertisements that go on ad nauseum.

If this company really wants to respond -- they have every right to do
so via PRIVATE E-MAIL. Why must they bludgeon us with their constant
ads.


Annoyed!
The...@ix.netcom.com

Martin St. John

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Jun 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/5/96
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I am tired of seeing this "Trolling" (i.e. a *legitimate* question
being asked by someone who "really doesn't know") followed by a blatant
advertisement. Of course all this company needs is a make believe
*someone* to ask the question.

If you want to know about a product --- go to the store and ask them
and stop this constant advertising on our chat channel.

Annoyed
The...@ix.netcom.com

pat foley

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Jun 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/6/96
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In <4p4dqb$e...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> the...@ix.netcom.com(Martin


While I'm not real thrilled with advertisements for wallets, etc., I do
like to hear people's experiences with products, good and bad. As a
new bird owner, I have bought a lot of stuff, some good, some bad. I
have asked questions about products, and I have answered questions,
sometimes giving vendors and phone numbers. I've been grateful when
people have steered me to a good product, a cheaper price, or warned me
about one to avoid. After all, we spend a lot of money on our birds,
and what we see in the magazines is advertisements, not personal
experiences.

As for nutriberries, I think it got more negative than positive press
though I wasn't keeping count, it seemed like they were more popular
with dogs than birds !

Anyway, I hope the questions and the comments continue. That's part of
what I come here for, and I sure don't want to feel self concious about
asking for a recommendation, or passing one on.

Pat and her independent testing panel (ha-ha)
Bandit (BFA) and Chico (DYH) and Blue Boy Budge and Mel Belle the GSD


Kevin Chu

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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In article <4p4dqb$e...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> that I received on

my home planet, the...@ix.netcom.com(Martin St. John) wrote:

} If you want to know about a product --- go to the store and ask
} them and stop this constant advertising on our chat channel.

Whether or not you call Jim B.'s articles "advertising" is
subjective. I wouldn't call it advertising.

I welcome Jim's input. And that of other vendors. I don't like
the articles that say, "product x for $y," with no other info.
As long as the article contains mostly info (> 80%) and not much
"ad" it's fine with me. No wallets, though.

Jim's input has not been constant. And most if not all the pet
stores I've been to don't even know the difference between
different species of birds, let alone the difference between
different brands of foods or between pellets and seed, or for
that matter, between sunflower seed and seed.

It's easy to tell whether an "advertiser" (in Jim's case, I'd
call him a company representative rather than a salesman) is
trying to deceive you. And if you're worried about fake
questions meant to draw replies from vendors, just keep reading
the newsgroup for a while and you'll learn who's real and who's
not.

Kevin

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Leila Vasumaki

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Jun 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/7/96
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patf...@ix.netcom.com(pat foley) wrote:

>I do like to hear people's experiences with products, good and bad. As a
>new bird owner, I have bought a lot of stuff, some good, some bad. I
>have asked questions about products, and I have answered questions,
>sometimes giving vendors and phone numbers.

Most of us probably have.

>As for nutriberries, I think it got more negative than positive press
>though I wasn't keeping count, it seemed like they were more popular
>with dogs than birds !

Well, Riki (my DHF Grey) loves nutriberries......they're his second
favorite treat right after walnuts. My 'tiels on the other hand don't
care for the 'tiel variety.

Mel Christianson

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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all my birds love them. tiels,conures,amazon,lovebirds,budgies. i get
the large ones for parrots, but they all eat them just the same. i
believe they all have the same ingredients, but just have different sizes.

-
ZKM...@prodigy.com
eagleflys


MAN5511

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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I think Nutri-berries are great. My bird has a similar opinion of pellets
(yuck!)
but loves Nutri-berries. The real issue though is giving your bird enough
variety. No one thing is enough. So veggies and vitamins are important
too.

alexis

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Jun 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/8/96
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First of all its not your channel. If it is, send me a copy of your copyrights sheet. I am glad there is advertising, sometimes its the only way I can find out about a new product.

the...@ix.netcom.com(Martin St. John) wrote:

>I am tired of seeing this "Trolling" (i.e. a *legitimate* question
>being asked by someone who "really doesn't know") followed by a blatant
>advertisement. Of course all this company needs is a make believe
>*someone* to ask the question.

>If you want to know about a product --- go to the store and ask them


>and stop this constant advertising on our chat channel.

>Annoyed
>The...@ix.netcom.com

jes...@djo.com

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Jun 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/14/96
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CP>Does this company have a baby formula? What is it called?

Nutri-start.

CHERANE PEFLEY, CAS

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In article <tcpnntpd.16.6.14.2.9...@news.djo.com>
jes...@djo.com wrote:
>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 02:09:26 -0500
>From: <jes...@djo.com>
>Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
>Subject: Re: nutri-berries - WASTE OF MONEY


Thanks for the reply. I used this with my Greys late in 1989. I
think I got nervous with adding peanut butter for the right amount
of protein.

Cherane Pefley, Certified Avian Specialist


SMLundberg

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Jun 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM6/15/96
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jim--I hate to tell you, but my bird is very darn good at leaving all the
"in between" healthy stuff after picking out the seeds. I don't think
he's benefitting from the additives. Susie (conure owner)

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