senegal or pionus
Testarossa
bird... It's so lonely without one around here.
Basically I am looking for a relatively quiet bird who is both playful and
cuddly. I would like one who will really bond to me. I would also like a
bird who doesn't need as much attention as a Cockatoo but enjoys human
company more than a Finch. I am considering a Senegal or a Maximilian
Pionus. To put it bluntly, I prefer the sweet, cuddly nature of a cockatiel
over the feisty nature of a budgie. On a less important note, cost does
matter a little. Although I would probably pay almost anything for the
perfect bird for me, I have to keep a budget in mind (I am in Alberta Canada
if anyone knows the availability). If anyone can help describe these birds
or compare them, that'd be great. Recommendations for other birds are also
appreciated. Thanks for your help!
You probably need more info... I can spend about an hour or two every day
with the bird, but would like to have leniency to vary these times. I am
willing to prepare fresh foods for the bird, and do all of the "dirty work"
involved with bird-ownership. I will be buying a larger cage and realize
the costs involved. Umm... The bird will have contact with the rest of my
family, so relative friendliness is important, but I will be the main
caretaker and the one who the bird will spend its time with. I love the
larger birds but am wary of their special needs, such as tons of attention,
possible neurotic behaviors, and loud voices. I would love a large bird
that doesn't usually have these bad tendencies, but a small bird is just as
delightful. I hope that's enough info, I'll be hanging around to answer any
questions and lurk a bit on other threads.
Tokģo
sincerely I can't say anything about Pionus, but I can say that the features
you require are that one of the Senegal!
I own my Senegal for 4 month, she was like one year old.
He is perfect for a lot of things you say: she is able to play alone for
hours and it seem to be happy with not much hours with me. When we are
together is really wonderful she really loves me..
Now she is starting to tell some words like "ciao" and his name "Kita".
Really satisfactory!!!!
Some time she like to bite and she is not much friendly with other people
but..in 4 month she made miracles!!!
The first period I couldn't take here on my hand, now I mast put here in the
cage when she has decide to fly on my body!!! Now I'm busy , but if you
e-mail me I can tell you other things about my parrot and I can send you a
video if you want
Bye, Tommy
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Owly
and is similar. I've read quite a bit about senegals because when I got
my pionus I had been considering a sennie. But when I contacted a local
breeder, she steered me to the pi instead, and I have never been sorry.
I'm also on 3 senegal mailing lists so I do have an idea of what they
are like from quite a few senegal owners. And I know that they can be
everything you say you are looking for.
They also can be very definite one-person birds. CAN be. They have
more of a tendency toward that than a pionus, and need constant
socialization to minimize that trait. Even so, that is a strong trait
that you sometimes have to work around. But with their favorite person
they are more cuddly than a pionus. Most of the pi's I know of (again,
mostly via mailing lists and pi chats, as well as my own) aren't cuddly
but are more tolerant of other people if well socialized. They also
will choose a favorite person (most parrots will of course) but as a
rule don't react as strongly to other people.
In my own experience, the Meyer's is much quicker to react to things.
He'll bite ME if something frightens him while he's on me, or if my SO -
who he hates - walks past me. And they're quick about it, no warning,
so you have to be on the lookout for potential BSTs (big scary things).
OTOH, my Meyer's is absolutely the cuddliest and sweetest of all my
birds to me. He is funny and smart and talks a little and worships me
as the Meyer's Goddess - lol!
The pionus is calmer and more steady. They will of course react quickly
to some things but they aren't as "spooky" as the poicephalus parrots
tend to be. My pi isn't cuddly but is definitely a person bird, and
wants to be with one of us. She'll sit for hours with us, on a lap or
shoulder, accepting scritches and chattering in her own little pi
language :). She rarely if ever bites, although she'll get "beaky" at
times but doesn't draw blood as the Meyer's can. Where the poicephalus
parrots will react before thinking, the pionus parrots will often think
before reacting, and are a lot calmer. In addition, I'm not my pi's VFP
(very favorite person), but she lets me or my little girl handle and
scritch and play with her.
Of course every bird is an individual, and there will always be
exceptions. From my reading and interacting with other poicephalus and
pionus lovers, it would seem that lots of people have one of each. They
really aren't that similar so I can't explain it, except that they are
both quieter than the larger parrots, yet have tons of personality.
There aren't at present any books about pionus parrots in print but I
would direct you to www.fatparrots.org, which has an extensive list of
links to pionus sites. And Mattie Sue Athan and Diana Deter have a
great book, called A Guide to the Senegal Parrots and its Family. There
are also bazillions of links about sennies online, and Jean Pattison
(The African Queen) and...oh darn what's his name...it excapes me right
now...sorry...just published a new book about the African parrots as
well.
I suggest you go to www.upatsix.com and read some of the posts in the
poicephalus and pionus chats for a while, or join some of the mailing
lists and just read for a while. I can make specific suggestions if
you'd like. And of course you will hopefully get a bit of input from
other people here who have/know senegal and pionus parrots. They are
quite different but both have wonderful traits.
owly
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>From: "Owly" ow...@email.com
>There aren't at present any books about pionus parrots in print but I
>would direct you to www.fatparrots.org, which has an extensive list of
>links to pionus sites. And Mattie Sue Athan and Diana Deter have a
>great book, called A Guide to the Senegal Parrots and its Family. There
>are also bazillions of links about sennies online, and Jean Pattison
>(The African Queen) and...oh darn what's his name...it excapes me right
>now...sorry...just published a new book about the African parrots as
>well.
African Parrots
by Rick Jordan, Jean Pattison. Paperback (December 1999)
Regards
Mari-Sue Gregory
lay on his back and play dead in my hand. He would perch on my finger, I
would point with the other hand and say BANG. He would clutch my finger and
swing backward and play dead. He was a great bird. My teenaged nephew fell
in love with him, so I gave Mr. Peabody to him for his birthday. He was a
great family pet for a large family for years.
One day he made a break for freedom. They called me to give me the bad
news. I rushed over to there neighborhood. I began calling to him and
singing to him. He flew to a tree in the yard and climbed down a stick to
me. Man was that a scary experience.
Based on my experience, Senegals make great pets and companions.
Mari-Sue