>on the edge of the goldfish bowl and talk to it, but he occasionally
>drinks the water. The goldfish had a parasite about a month ago, but was
>cured by medicine. Could this parasite have anything to do with his
scabby
>cere? I know it's not mites, but I fear that if his nose doesn't clear
>up soon, it will be permanently discolored. He doesn't appear sick, but
>he's not allowed to visit the fish until his cere is cleared up. Tommy
>is a beautiful light blue grey-winged parakeet who needs his beautiful
>blue cere back. I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
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Hi Michelle!!! Your best bet is to take your bird to the Vet, explain what
your keet does and see what they say. A brown scabby crust on a keets cere
isn't good!! (And I would discourage the "drinking from the pond" thing as
this is NOT clean, fresh water that your keet needs!!} Fishtank water,
unless treated and filtered is akin to a dirty toilet bowl..... I know it
sounds gross but consider that your fish urinate and expel fecal matter
into that water (advise given to me by "fishy" people when I had an
aquarium)and without a filtering system it stays there!!! Also keep in mind
that even if you have a filtering system the water you are using is treated
for a fish environment. I don't know that its good for keets.
Well, good luck and let us know what happens!!!
Sharon
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>In article <4v2n8j$9...@news.cc.utah.edu>, Michelle Yates writes:
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>>My parakeet has recently developed a brown, scabby cere. He likes to
sit
>
>>on the edge of the goldfish bowl and talk to it, but he occasionally
>>drinks the water. The goldfish had a parasite about a month ago, but
was
>
>>cured by medicine. Could this parasite have anything to do with his
>scabby
>>cere? I know it's not mites, but I fear that if his nose doesn't clear
>>up soon, it will be permanently discolored. He doesn't appear sick, but
>>he's not allowed to visit the fish until his cere is cleared up. Tommy
>>is a beautiful light blue grey-winged parakeet who needs his beautiful
>>blue cere back. I would appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
I had the same problem with my male Keet. I took him to the vet and it
turned out to be a sinus infection. He was put on antibiotics. What you
can do is use a very mild hand conditioner and rub it on his cere,then
gently peel off the crusty layers because if you don't eventually his
nares will become closed up. BTW,that is what my Avian Vet told me to do
and it works very well. Good Luck.
Suzanne
Although I am NOT an elderly Ladie ,my friends call me Birdbiddie
Thanks for your input. I guess it could be a sinus infection, but he doesn't
have any discharge from his nose. For the last two days I've been lightly
coating his cere with Vaseline to soften the scabs, and it seems to be helping.
I haven't tried peeling any of it off because he struggles too much while I
hold him. He seems to be doing a pretty good job by himself getting it off.
I'll get him to the vet as soon as possible. Thanks.
Michelle
My Keet did not have a discharge either. and Oh boy did he ever struggle
with me too,so I lightly wrapped him in a washcloth. We had determined
that it was something in the area that caused him to constantly have these
sinus infections and I moved him to a different room and have not had a
problem since. His nares,at one point,nearly became totally closed over by
the scabby tissue. It could also be mites and I forgot to tell you that
before. Keep me informed,ok
> Thanks for your input. I guess it could be a sinus infection, but he doesn't
> have any discharge from his nose. For the last two days I've been lightly
> coating his cere with Vaseline to soften the scabs, and it seems to be helping.
> I haven't tried peeling any of it off because he struggles too much while I
> hold him. He seems to be doing a pretty good job by himself getting it off.
> I'll get him to the vet as soon as possible. Thanks.
>
> Michelle
Hi Michelle,
I don't discount the idea that it could be an infection. In fact based
on what you have said it could be. However, are you sure you have a
boy? Little girl 'keets have brown ceres that get crusty when they are
in breeding season. Just a thought. How old is your little friend?
Maybe he is mature now, about 1 year old?
Good luck,
Sheri
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> Little girl 'keets have brown ceres that get crusty when they are
>in breeding season. Just a thought. How old is your little friend?
>Maybe he is mature now, about 1 year old?
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I thought she mentioned earlier that the cere was blue. I thought only
males could have blue ceres?
My parakeet, Tommy, is 7 years old, so unless he's decided to turn into a girl,
which I tease him about, I'm pretty sure he's a boy. I haven't been able to
bring him to the vet yet, but I've been putting vitamin E on his cere and it's
clearing up. I thought since vitamin E is an antioxidant and it helps tissue
repair, that it would help. His scabs have never gotten so bad that it has
covered up his nose holes. In fact, it's quite clear around them. He is
currently being trained to stay away from the goldfish bowl so that this won't
happen again. Every time he starts flying over there, he gets yelled at, and
turns right back around. It's a little harder once he's landed if I didn't see
him fly over there, but he's definitely getting the hint. Once he's off the
fish bowl, or once he's turned around in flight, he gets praised. Not too long
ago he was over there and almost fell into the fish bowl. He dunked about half
of his side and wanted to take a bath, so I said, "Well, Tommy, if you want a
bath, that's what you're going to get." I immediately took him to the kitchen
sink and proceded to wash him under the faucet to get the fish water off of
him. He didn't like it one bit, and that's exactly what I was looking for.
And, by the way, I know for sure that it's not mites. Actually it looks more
like some kind of dermititis. My cousin once had a bird with mites, and I
diagnosed it and told her to put vaseline on the cere and it cleared it right
up. Anyway, thanks for everyone's help. I'll let you guys know his progress.
It looks really encouraging, so I'm happy.
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Yes males have blue ceres. However, when they are less than a year old
they can be blue, purple, tan, whatever. In fact, it can change a lot
during the first year. When they are about one year old they are
sexually mature and the cere will turn one color and stay that way.
Fancies do not have the standard cere colors, so it is hard to say what
the sex is by looking at the cere color.
Sheri