Amtrak and pet birds
Technical Nomad
with even more, I was just wondering how Amtrak handles this.
Anyone know or have travelled that way? Birdie-sitting is a
very expensive option.
Ursula
Sunshine, Perfect, Chris, and Blizzard
Gold Cap x Jenday, Red-throated Conure, Natural Cockatiel, and
Pied Cockatiel
reg...@usa.pipeline.com
Our birds travel in their Avian Creations travel totes. They have been all
over the Pacific Northwest with us (grocery stores, tent camping,
restuarants, etc.). I know people who take their birds on airlines as carry
on baggage in their totes - they just make sure it's acceptable to the
airline and get a health certificate from their vet. The tote is made out
of Lexan so it's rather light weight, but sturdy. Our birds love to go on
road trips with us. I would imagine that in an enclosed tote such as this
neither AmTrack nor the bird would have any complaints. But it's always
best to check with AmTrack, airline, or bus service to be sure.
LYNN REED
Ursula-
Amtrak's rules don't allow any animals on board with the exception of
guide dogs, as I recollect. We were considering taking our Sun Conure,
Cosmo, with us to LA. Couldn't, though. Probably would've been a pain
anyway.
Lynn W. Reed
Bruce & Alicia McWatters
I’ll admit I’ve always had a different view on the value of
pellets. To me, they are just a glorified vitamin/mineral supplement.
Even without the “fake” items that are used in some to preserve, color,
and make them tasty, etc. I’ve still always been very skeptical and
have not been motivated to use them.
When and if you think about it, you have to wonder why there are so
many vitamins/minerals listed on the label. Well, anyway I do. There
are only a couple of reasons for this I guess. Either the nutrients
weren’t in the foods (the seeds, grains, etc. that are at the TOP of
the list) to begin with or the once naturally occurring nutrients were
destroyed/denatured during the heat-treatment of the processing
procedure. Adding these vitamins/minerals later is what they typically
do to many human foods when there are missing nutrients in a particular
food product. Like white bread, for instance. It has to be “enriched”
or “fortified” for the final product to contain sufficient amounts of
the necessary elements.
We all know that people can get by on the bare minimum of nutrients
and still, for awhile anyway, look and feel OK, produce offspring... It
is over the long-term that symptoms arise which have been accumulating
over many years from the lack of quality nutritious foods. So we can
assume that birds and animals have this same ability. Maybe even more
so with birds as we know they tend to disguise their symptoms until
they no longer can.
If I have a choice on what I feed my birds it will always be a
fresh food diet, not a commercial, processed one. I guess I really
like the independence and satisfaction I’ve received from feeding an
all fresh, natural diet.
Now we all must make our own decisions in this matter for our birds
and I imagine many will still opt for the convenience diets over the
home From: pio...@ix.netcom.com(Bruce & Alicia McWatters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Perspectives on Pellets
References: <4l9d5v$ges...@net2.nauticom.net>
I’ll admit I’ve always had a different view on the value of
pellets. To me, they are just a glorified vitamin/mineral supplement.
Even without the “fake” items that are used in some to preserve, color,
and make them tasty, etc. I’ve still always been very skeptical and
have not been motivated to use them.
When and if you think about it, you have to wonder why there are so
many vitamins/minerals listed on the label. Well, anyway I do. There
are only a couple of reasons for this I guess. Either the nutrients
weren’t in the foods (the seeds, grains, etc. that are at the TOP of
the list) to begin with or the once naturally occurring nutrients were
destroyed/denatured during the heat-treatment of the processing
procedure. Adding these vitamins/minerals later is what they typically
do to many human foods when there are missing nutrients in a particular
food product. Like white bread, for instance. It has to be “enriched”
or “fortified” for the final product to contain sufficient amounts of
the necessary elements.
We all know that people can get by on the bare minimum of nutrients
and still, for awhile anyway, look and feel OK, produce offspring... It
is over the long-term that symptoms arise which have been accumulating
over many years from the lack of quality nutritious foods. So we can
assume that birds and animals have this same ability. Maybe even more
so with birds as we know they tend to disguise their symptoms until
they no longer can.
If I have a choice on what I feed my birds it will always be a
fresh food diet, not a commercial, processed one. I guess I really
like the independence and satisfaction I’ve received from feeding an
all fresh, natural diet.
Now we all must make our own decisions in this matter for our birds
and I imagine many will still opt for the convenience diets over the
home prepared type; however, I encourage you to reconsider what you
place in those food bowls today. What is it, how was it made, why was
it made, and is it something which will simply sustain your birds
health or offer them something much more.....???
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Trailways or any subways or taxi cabs for that matter.
Of course, my birds *have* travelled Amtrak... just don't tell anyone!
Allynn
Heather Aston
eb...@ix.netcom.com(LYNN REED) writes:
>Ursula-
>Lynn W. Reed
Are you sure? I remember being on an Amtrak train going to Boston where
someone had a dog. It wasn't a seeing eye dog, it was one of those that
are small enough to put in a cat size carrier. They put it up above them with
the rest of their luggage. We could hear it barking every now and then, but
none of the conductors said anything about it.
Allynn Wilkinson
Heather Aston wrote:
>
>
> >Amtrak's rules don't allow any animals on board with the exception of
> >guide dogs, as I recollect. We were considering taking our Sun Conure,
> >Cosmo, with us to LA. Couldn't, though. Probably would've been a pain
> >anyway.
>
> >Lynn W. Reed
>
> Are you sure? I remember being on an Amtrak train going to Boston where
> someone had a dog. It wasn't a seeing eye dog, it was one of those that
> are small enough to put in a cat size carrier. They put it up above them with
> the rest of their luggage. We could hear it barking every now and then, but
> none of the conductors said anything about it.
Well... that's the difference between "rules" and "practices"! I'm quite sure
that, if you ask Amtrak or read their ticketing information they clearly state
that they don't allow *any* pets. In practice, however, as long as the pet is
quiet, no one complains and the conductor isn't having a pissy day there probably
isn't a problem. The 'don't ask, don't tell' policy of travelling with pets! Did
you know it's also against the rules to drive over 55 mph on many highways in the
U.S? Nuff said? :->
Allynn