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me & Mike
Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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did someone say on this ng that you could spray old cages with rustoleum?
We got a cage from a great great aunt that is in bad condition but I hate to
throw it away. I could buy another budgie if I could fix it up. I could
tell my husband that with 2 budgies I could utilize the seed quicker and
have less waste. Some of you must have great lines to justify getting
another bird. What are they?
BTW would someone share what their favorite magazines are regarding birds?
I've been flipping through some at Petsmart, etc. The ones I saw were for
big birds.
We got a cage from a great great aunt that is in bad condition but I hate to
throw it away. I could buy another budgie if I could fix it up. I could
tell my husband that with 2 budgies I could utilize the seed quicker and
have less waste. Some of you must have great lines to justify getting
another bird. What are they?
BTW would someone share what their favorite magazines are regarding birds?
I've been flipping through some at Petsmart, etc. The ones I saw were for
big birds.
Wheeler
Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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"Honey, the birds keep me off the streets." "They are cheaper than a
mid-life crisis." "Well then can I have a sports car instead?" "Some day
we will make a profit." "If the birds go, I go." "You don't have to do
anything mom, I will clean up after them and feed them and walk them
everyday." "Did you say you wanted to go camping with your sisters for a
week???" "He is lonely, he needs a mate."
mid-life crisis." "Well then can I have a sports car instead?" "Some day
we will make a profit." "If the birds go, I go." "You don't have to do
anything mom, I will clean up after them and feed them and walk them
everyday." "Did you say you wanted to go camping with your sisters for a
week???" "He is lonely, he needs a mate."
Bob W
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Mario Ferraro
Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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Yep, according to rustoleum you can and I did. It actually came out pretty
well. The only thing I'm really worried about is the smell but it is almost
gone now (after about a week) I used a metal spray paint primer then rustoleum
black. The only thing I would have done different is used a water based spray
paint then an oil based but according to rustoleum both are fine.
Mario
well. The only thing I'm really worried about is the smell but it is almost
gone now (after about a week) I used a metal spray paint primer then rustoleum
black. The only thing I would have done different is used a water based spray
paint then an oil based but according to rustoleum both are fine.
Mario
Eliz
Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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I've been kind of holding off waiting for someone to start this type of thread
again. This is something I happen to know quite a bit about having worked at one
time as a paint chemist for about 5 yrs. doing quality control and formulating.
There is a big difference between the safety questions of wet paint (before
applied) and the cured film. Water based paints are safer for the human to apply,
no hydrocarbon based solvents, but the cured film from oil based enamels is
stronger on metals,has better adhesion & is safer for your birds. Be sure to avoid
automotive paints(including touch-ups) as many of them still contain lead & heavy
metals in the tints (cheaper,stronger,better sun resistance & hopefully no kid is
going to chew on a car bumper). Any major brand enamel marked safe for use on
children's toys, etc. should be safe for use on bird cages. Many latex paints
contain mildewcides which are deadly poisons (we used to use mercury compounds
years ago,not sure what the latest technologies are). Surface preparation is the
key,as clean and rust free as posssible, quality primer, then paint. Powder coating
is probably best but much more expensive and not readily available in a lot of
areas. Also,if you have access to a compressor, there are home sandblast units
available for about $20 (Craftsman,Coleman,etc.). they make surface preparation
much easier. Sorry this is so long. Thanks,Mike
again. This is something I happen to know quite a bit about having worked at one
time as a paint chemist for about 5 yrs. doing quality control and formulating.
There is a big difference between the safety questions of wet paint (before
applied) and the cured film. Water based paints are safer for the human to apply,
no hydrocarbon based solvents, but the cured film from oil based enamels is
stronger on metals,has better adhesion & is safer for your birds. Be sure to avoid
automotive paints(including touch-ups) as many of them still contain lead & heavy
metals in the tints (cheaper,stronger,better sun resistance & hopefully no kid is
going to chew on a car bumper). Any major brand enamel marked safe for use on
children's toys, etc. should be safe for use on bird cages. Many latex paints
contain mildewcides which are deadly poisons (we used to use mercury compounds
years ago,not sure what the latest technologies are). Surface preparation is the
key,as clean and rust free as posssible, quality primer, then paint. Powder coating
is probably best but much more expensive and not readily available in a lot of
areas. Also,if you have access to a compressor, there are home sandblast units
available for about $20 (Craftsman,Coleman,etc.). they make surface preparation
much easier. Sorry this is so long. Thanks,Mike
Mario Ferraro
Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Thanks Elizabeth. You have put me at ease. It's great to get an unbiased opinion. So
then I should be okay? I used a metal primer and then an oil based spray paint.
Thanks for the info.
Mario
then I should be okay? I used a metal primer and then an oil based spray paint.
Thanks for the info.
Mario
RonFrank
Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Use oil based for the reasons listed by Eliz.
Also, either get the cage sandblasted, or spend some serious time
sanding/grinding/stripping/whatever down to the metal.
Covering rust, dirt, oil, old paint, etc. with new paint may look OK, but
if the bird chews, whatever crap is under the new paint could be ingested.
Also paint does not adhere well to unclean or rusty surfaces.
I'm planning on using an oil based enamel likely made by rustoleum to spray
a new Tiel cage that I will have our baby macaw in for the first 6 months
(or until it can not get it's head through 1 1/4 bar spacing on a big
cage).
I've researched this thoroughly, and most rustoleum products are safe.
Don't get the metallic/glitter type.
Good Luck
Ron
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Eliz & Mike
Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Much as I'd like to take credit for knowing all about paint & chemicals &
colors & all that, the info was from my husband (the Mike signed at the end
;-p). I changed the ID to reflect that we're really 2 lurkers in one. Now, if I
could just get him to paint OUR house?
colors & all that, the info was from my husband (the Mike signed at the end
;-p). I changed the ID to reflect that we're really 2 lurkers in one. Now, if I
could just get him to paint OUR house?
Eliz & Tibby (executive assistant quaker)
"RonFrank
> Use oil based for the reasons listed by Eliz.
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