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jge...@access.k12.wv.us

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Jan 6, 1995, 10:54:51 AM1/6/95
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I have a lutino approximately 4 years old which I inherited from
my daughter. When she purchased it, she was told it was sexed and
was a male. About a year and a half ago, "he" started laying eggs.
Since then, he/she has repeated egg laying about every 5 weeks. He/
she is very cranky during the time before and after, leaving very
little "good" time. I am also concerned that she is wearing down her
system. Suggestions appreciated.

Eve Cunning

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Jan 8, 1995, 6:25:23 PM1/8/95
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If you take her to an avian vet, or even just give one a call, he/she
can give you a complete set of instructions. I hope sincerely that you will
do this, as advice over the net is not anywhere near so valuable. BTW, chronic
egglaying is common in cockatiels.

Have you been removing the eggs? Don't, because she then feels obligated to
replace them. The eggs can be left, as long as they're not broken, for a
couple of weeks. You might try buying some fake eggs and substituting them for
the real ones, if you prefer.

Again, please consult an avian vet...the expense is not usually outrageous,
and the peace of mind is invaluable.

--Eve

Shel King

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Feb 6, 1995, 8:59:39 PM2/6/95
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Eve Cunning (e...@degroof.raleigh.nc.us) wrote:

: In <19950106.105452...@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU> jge...@access.k12.wv.us writes:
: >I have a lutino approximately 4 years old which I inherited from
: >my daughter. When she purchased it, she was told it was sexed and
: >was a male. About a year and a half ago, "he" started laying eggs.
: >Since then, he/she has repeated egg laying about every 5 weeks. He/
: >she is very cranky during the time before and after, leaving very
: >little "good" time. I am also concerned that she is wearing down her
: >system. Suggestions appreciated.


SPEAKING OF SEX... A friend of mine asked me to post the following
question: Is there any evidence that the gender of a bird is NOT
determined at time of fertilization? Can gender be controlled by some
factor during incubation?? Any help would be appreciated.

SHK for Don Shannon
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T. Birch Rambo

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Feb 7, 1995, 8:12:47 AM2/7/95
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In article <3h6k6b$5...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us>

s...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Shel King) writes:

>SPEAKING OF SEX... A friend of mine asked me to post the following
>question: Is there any evidence that the gender of a bird is NOT
>determined at time of fertilization? Can gender be controlled by some
>factor during incubation?? Any help would be appreciated.
>
>SHK for Don Shannon

Sex in birds is chromosomally determined at fertilization, much like it is
in humans. The only difference is that while the human male has an X and
a Y chromosome and the female has 2 X chromosomes, in birds it is the
female that has two kinds of chromosomes and the male two of the same. In
birds they are referred to as W and Z chromosomes.

T. Birch Rambo
Laboratory of Forensic Ornithology
Center for Ecology, Evolution, and Behavior
University of Kentucky
TBRA...@UKCC.UKY.EDU

Scott Lewis

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Feb 7, 1995, 3:49:31 PM2/7/95
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In article <3h6k6b$5...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us> (6 Feb 1995 20:59:39
-0500), s...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Shel King) says...
The gender is determined at the time of fertilization just as with humans.
Females are ZW, males are ZZ, just the opposite of humans where males are
XY and females are XX.

Regards,
Scott
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Krista Menzel

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Feb 11, 1995, 12:59:34 AM2/11/95
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Due to the mutations that have been developed in certain species of
captive birds, it is possible to confirm that males have two X's (or
whatever letter is assigned to the chromosome) and females have one X and
one Y (or W or Z, as they are called in birds). These visible mutations
(cinnamon, lutino, and pearl in cockatiels) are carried on the X
chromosome, and their appearance always corresponds with the sex of the
bird, depending on how they were inherited.

Although birds descended from reptiles, they have evolved differently.
Their physiology, anatomy, and social structure is very different. The
possibility for conditions to determine the gender of the chicks must not
be beneficial to avian species.

Krista in MN

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