Help! Quaker or Senegal
moodblz
blue lovebird (m). I love them both dearly, however, as most of you know,
once you get a bird, you usually get another, and another,etc. Well, the
bird bug has bitten again. I just cant decide if I want a Quaker or Senegal.
I want another bird that can get along with my lovebird, (budgie wouldnt
bother anyone), and I am partial to a Quaker but I was told that Quaker's
get mean after 2 years or so but was also told that a Senegal bites more
easily. I have two children that would totally shy away from a bird if it
bit them. Does anyone have a suggestion? Also, I want to know if anyone has
ever given their birds watermelon. I think my lovebird would eat it I just
want to make sure it is safe....thanks in advance.....Carol
jane
Jane
Suzmyers <suzm...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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> I'd suggest a Meyers Parrot instead of a Quaker or Senegal. My Meyers
was
> purchased as a pet for my 10 year old daughter, but has become a friend to
> everyone in our house and everyone who visits. He is very cuddly, and
loves to
> talk. If he uses his beak on anyone, it isn't really a nip or bite, but
more
> like "holding on" to a finger. If you tell him "No" he says "NO" and then
lets
> go. Everyone who comes to visit, adults and kids alike, love him, and
he
> loves them back.
> He does make noise, but I'm told he is MUCH quieter than a Quaker.
> Any, he LOVES watermelon, cherries, and strawberries! He is a very
good
> eater and eats most anything you give him, and supplements it with
pellets.
> I've got two friends out looking for baby Meyers' now - and they both
have
> kids. Coco convinced them they needed a bird in their families.
>
> Sue
> To respond by e-mail, remove "NOSPAM" from my address.
jen...@netcom.ca
>
> check to see if quakers are legal to keep in your state. that might make
> your decision for you. i had a quaker some time ago. i got him with a
> history of abuse though. he could be a really sweet bird sometimes and did
> learn to talk quickly once i got him. unfortunately, he never really escaped
> his past and became very violent toward me and others. he's a breeder now
> and i learned just recently that he is a very happy grandfather. never had
> any personal experience with a senegal, but i think any bird will become a
> biter if put in a situation that warrants it. you sound like you love your
> birds, so i don't see that happening.
> moodblz <moo...@shreve.net> wrote in message
> news:3782...@news.shreve.net...
Senegal. She is the sweetest bird, she loves everyone who comes into my
home, children or adults. She gets along with my other birds and dog,
she talks well, is very quiet and does not bite at all. I would
strongly recommend a Senegal as a companion.
All of my birds love watermelon, but it is VERY messy :)
Suzmyers
Ben Sheehan
Kellie
> I want another bird that can get along with my lovebird, (budgie wouldnt
> bother anyone), and I am partial to a Quaker but I was told that Quaker's
> get mean after 2 years or so but was also told that a Senegal bites more
> easily.
I dont' know much at all about Senegals, but I know one quaker quite well- he
has removed several budgie toes, which is very sad since one of the budgies in
question adores him. Just be aware that even if they seem to play together
well, birds of different species can and do hurt each other. Lovebirds are also
known as toe biters, but I don't know if two hard headed birds like quakers and
lovebirds could get along in close quarters. I even keep my sun conure a few
feet away now that he's missing a toenail. (Actually I think Willie is a girl,
but that's another story.) Shake the Quaker will bite the toes on any bird
within reach- although he didn't do any harm, he even bit our M2's toe- made
her scream bloody murder and fluff her feathers- he's just lucky she doesn't
know she could have snapped his head off in one bite!
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Kellie
Kellie
little beauties! Mine loves everyone!
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Kellie
moodblz
beautiful birds. I do believe that the Quaker is legal in my state,
Louisiana, but I might ought to think about another bird. I understand that
Quakers are LOUD also. Anyway, Thanks for all of you giving me something to
think about.....Carol
Kellie wrote in message <3783A453...@worldnet.att.net>...
Wheeler
Bob W
moodblz wrote in message <3783...@news.shreve.net>...
moodblz
Wheeler wrote in message <3783e...@news.pacifier.com>...
Wheeler
$250.
Kellie
My quaker mostly speaks English, occassionally squawks, but not that often.
When he feels like making noise he usually does it in English. The breeder
quakers are sometimes loud- I won't say always because someone will have an
exception- and also loud is to a large degree in the ear of the listener... my
parents think my birds are terribly loud- even the quaker before we had the
louder cockatoo and sun conure. My mother brings ear plugs to our house and my
dad turns down his hearing aid! But Shake, the quaker, is one of my less noisy
birds. The budgies chatter most of the day, but I love hearing them and they
aren't too loud. And I'm pretty sure they are legal in Louisiana...
whereabouts? I lived in the NO area for 14 years.
moodblz wrote:
> I really never thought of a sun conure or a Meyers Parrot. They both are
> beautiful birds. I do believe that the Quaker is legal in my state,
> Louisiana, but I might ought to think about another bird. I understand that
> Quakers are LOUD also. Anyway, Thanks for all of you giving me something to
> think about.....Carol
>
> Kellie wrote in message <3783A453...@worldnet.att.net>...
> >Also, sun conures are very sweet and affable- you might think about one of
> those
> >little beauties! Mine loves everyone!
> >
> >
> >--
> >Kellie
> >
> >
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Kellie
Suzmyers
breeder, but I couldn't find one nearby when we were shopping. By the way -
these are midwest USA prices.
Jim
> I really never thought of a sun conure or a Meyers Parrot. They both are
> beautiful birds. I do believe that the Quaker is legal in my state,
> Louisiana, but I might ought to think about another bird.
Actually, I think everything is legal in Louisiana. :-)
I understand that> Quakers are LOUD also. Anyway, Thanks for all of you
giving me something to
> think about.....Carol
From what I've read and heard, conures are much louder than Quakers.
Jim
Heike Ewing
In my opinion, quakers are one of the best values around and one of
the better choices for a pet bird. They have the intelligence and
speaking ability of larger, more expensive birds, a delightfully feisty
and enertaining personality, and are easy and inexpensive to maintain.
Many are cuddly and friendly, and those that are properly socialized
when young usually make good "family" pets.
Our #1 pet quaker, Bear, is one of the more good-natured and friendly
birds I've met. She uses human speech to communicate (sometimes with
other birds, which can be quite funny), is usually responsive to the
requests that she understands, and (knock on wood) has never -bitten-
either one of us. Nor is she loud - I have cockatiels that make more
noise on a regular basis than she does. Granted, the noise level has a
lot to do with training and exposure. Bear is a hand-fed domestic and
was not around other quakers or noisy birds shen she was young; quakers
who are raised in a colony or are exposed to noisy breeding quakers or
other screaming birds when young can pick up the volume.
If you want a sweet, docile, gentle, quiet bird that will seldom give you
any trouble, pick a cockatiel, Meyers, Pionus, Neophema parakeet,
or the like. If you'd like a little more excitement in your life and a
challenging but rewarding relationship with a "feathered kid," adopt
a quaker!
Cute (to me) anecdote: Bear often finds it necessary to "help" us train
our young babies, especially the quakers. When we are teaching them
to step up, she will chime in encouragingly, telling the young birds
"step up, step UP!" If one is nervous or fussy and jumps off of our hands
or misbehaves, she'll tell it to "Be a GOOD bird!" (which is what we tell
her when she's being rowdy or uncooperative). She also tells ME to
"be a good bird" now and then, but we won't talk about that. <G>
If you (or anyone) would like more information about quakers, please
email me and I will send you a list of sites and resources.
--
You're invited to join the Quaker Parakeet Society!!
http://www.quakerville.com/qps
Heike Ewing, V. P., Quaker Parakeet Society
Bear's Den Aviary / "BearsDen" on IRC
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moodblz
line. Thanks for your input....Carol
Kellie wrote in message <37840511...@worldnet.att.net>...
>Carol, my quaker isn't loud- my sun conure is! My moluccan cockatoo REALLY
is!
>My quaker mostly speaks English, occassionally squawks, but not that often.
>When he feels like making noise he usually does it in English. The breeder
>quakers are sometimes loud- I won't say always because someone will have
an
>exception- and also loud is to a large degree in the ear of the listener...
my
>parents think my birds are terribly loud- even the quaker before we had the
>louder cockatoo and sun conure. My mother brings ear plugs to our house
and my
>dad turns down his hearing aid! But Shake, the quaker, is one of my less
noisy
>birds. The budgies chatter most of the day, but I love hearing them and
they
>aren't too loud. And I'm pretty sure they are legal in Louisiana...
>whereabouts? I lived in the NO area for 14 years.
>
>moodblz wrote:
>
>> I really never thought of a sun conure or a Meyers Parrot. They both are
>> beautiful birds. I do believe that the Quaker is legal in my state,
>> Louisiana, but I might ought to think about another bird. I understand
that
>> Quakers are LOUD also. Anyway, Thanks for all of you giving me something
to
>> think about.....Carol
>>
moodblz
> Louisiana, but I might ought to think about another bird.
Actually, I think everything is legal in Louisiana. :-)
Hey, you are probably right! They say you can just about get away with
anything here in Louisiana......Carol
Wiley
isn't noisy...any time of the day my house sounds like a rustled up
rainforest..
T.Wiley
ma...@wileyaviary.freeservers.com
moodblz wrote in message <3782...@news.shreve.net>...
>I need some help. I have a whitewing violet budgie (f) and a medium dutch
>blue lovebird (m). I love them both dearly, however, as most of you know,
>once you get a bird, you usually get another, and another,etc. Well, the
>bird bug has bitten again. I just cant decide if I want a Quaker or
Senegal.
>I want another bird that can get along with my lovebird, (budgie wouldnt
>bother anyone), and I am partial to a Quaker but I was told that Quaker's
>get mean after 2 years or so but was also told that a Senegal bites more
Heike Ewing
> Except for maybe a babbling budgie, or a hen canary is there any bird that
> isn't noisy...any time of the day my house sounds like a rustled up
> rainforest..
>
In approximate order of quietness:
Neophema parakeets (Bourke's, Splendids, Tourquisines, etc.)
Parrotlets
Pyrrhura family conures (Green cheeked, maroon bellied, black-capped, etc.)
Lovebirds
Pionus
The tradeoff is that "quiet" birds are generally not talkers, and the
neophema parakeets in particular are not very intelligent.
If you need quiet but want personality, Parrotlets and the Pyrrhura
conures are good choices, especially if you have the time to spend
with them. Neophemas are gentle, pleasant little birds that are
excellent in an aviary and are relatively low-maintenance (in the sense
that they stay "tame" if not worked with much, similar to many
cockatiels.
Just my personal experience and opinion, of course.
Kellie
> line. Thanks for your input....Carol
I'll be in Shreveport in August- middle of the month. My brother recently
moved there. If you see someone waving, that will be me!!
> --
Kellie
Kellie
>
> Hey, you are probably right! They say you can just about get away with
> anything here in Louisiana......Carol
I'm writing my second novel set in New Orleans- it includes a crooked
politician. How trite, right? Well, at least he does some unexpected
things!
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Kellie
Kellie
> isn't noisy...any time of the day my house sounds like a rustled up
> rainforest..
Mine does, too- there's the constant budgies background chatter, the
occassional sun conure screeches, the human language Quaker talk and the rare,
but never missed moluccan cockatoo SCREAMS! The Too also occassionally gives
long monologues about her life in general- can't understand a word, but I'm
convinced it's a story she's acting out. She faces this way and that, bobs her
head, scolds, laughs... I wish I knew what the story way about- it's very
exciting to watch! In fact the other day it started to rain and I dind't get
her right away while she was outside on her swing set. Well, when I retrieved
her it had started to come down hard (rare for us this time of year) and she
pressed her beak to my nose and gobbled like a turkey for a long time as if to
tell me the horrors she had been through! Poor child!
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Kellie
Howard Gibson
father. Go to WWW.angelfire.com once there add /la/laj579 after
angelfire.com. If you are in the south fla area I know she has quakers in
many stages still right now, and another clutch on the way.
Ellen
Tobie wrote:
> Would someone be so kind as to either tell me where I could see a pic of a
> quaker bird
> or send me a pic via e-mail. I would also like to know what the name
> 'quaker'
> means
> thanks
> Tobie
> tm...@gardenet.co.za
moodblz
Kellie wrote in message <37863810...@worldnet.att.net>...
Tobie
John Smith
get along, but, from what I know about lovebirds and quakers, neither get
along well with other species. The quakers I have met are very nippy at
times (though I have met few quakers, so this could be a coincedence). The
senegals I have met are not nippy. The breaders I have talked believe they
are more likely to get along well with multiple family members (as well as
strangers) than a quaker.
IMHO one should not expect a lovebird to get along with any other species of
bird - though they will form close bonds to people, dogs, and even cats
(believe it or not).
Heike Ewing
> Would someone be so kind as to either tell me where I could see a pic of a
> quaker bird or send me a pic via e-mail. I would also like to know what the
> name
> 'quaker' means thanks
I can't believe you're having trouble finding QUAKERS on the web!!
Try:
http://www.quakerparrots.com/
http://www.quakerville.com/
http://www.fcaviary.com/
And here's a page with LOTS of quaker links:
http://www.ionet.net/~heike/links.html
Quaker Parrot or Quaker Parakeet is the common name of the genus;
they are also called Monk Parakeets. There are several theories as to
the origin of the name; my personal favorite as that it comes from the
"quaking" behavior when they beg for food as chicks. It is unlike the
baby begging of other parrots - looks like they have palsy or something.
Heike Ewing
Bear's Den Aviary
Blue & Split to Blue Quakers now hand-feeding
Janet91012
wing Amazon JOJO. I'll take the quaker he has alot more to say than the amazon.
He is very sweet and loving, can say peek-a-boo,bark,step-up Petery, good
Petery, ma ma, nite nite, kiss kiss and many other words.
Janet
April
thought she was a HE until there was an egg laid last year.) I hand fed
Jake and watched her grow, she is now 3 years old. Jake talks a little,
saying " WHAT" when the phone rings. Pretty Bird, Hello, Hi Bird, and
she memics a bell. Quakers love to play, so have lots of toys, mostly
with bells or beads that move.
Good Luck, April
Kellie
> get along, but, from what I know about lovebirds and quakers, neither get
> along well with other species. The quakers I have met are very nippy at
> times (though I have met few quakers, so this could be a coincedence).
It could be MORE coincidence, but mine would fit the pattern!
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Kellie
Kellie
to wear collars and the grey on the front of the birds reminded people of that.
I like the quaking theory, too, though- it's SO cute!
Heike Ewing wrote:
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Kellie
Wheeler
to their name. They quake and shake all over. Lots of fun unless you are
trying to feed with a spoon.
Bob W
Kellie wrote in message <378A6219...@worldnet.att.net>...
HaugenRK
>with bells or beads that move.
So true. My Gidget loves her toys and is never afraid of new ones. Her
favorite though is a plastic chain with leather spider legs off from it. Each
leg has pieces of wood and/or beads. Right in the middle hangs a bell. She
will get right in the middle of the legs, with them draped all over her. She
will ring the bell for a couple of minutes, then take a nap, covered by her
toy. It is to cute!
Kelly
Kitt Walker
Lighten up, please, I'm a newbie here as I'm sure there have been others
before me and there will be more in the future with questions that may sound
idiotic to you. I for one wasn't aware of other sites and I thank you for
info in
whatever fashion it was posted.
To Kellie, good for your Gidget re toys, our Ringo, now Ringette is a bit
leery
of new toys at first, but in a short time gets into them, she likes to
insert her
head into those plastic rings and into what seem to be a state of relaxation
or rapt...go figure, also there's a particular plastic toy that she
developed some
king of kinky rapport with...Gotta get her a mate !!
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}&>)
Kellie
> leery
FWIW, I have Shake, not Gidget!!
> also there's a particular plastic toy that she
> developed some
> king of kinky rapport with...Gotta get her a mate !!
I suggest just letting her do what comes naturally with the toy! No babies that
way!! Shake has a close personal relationship with his bell.
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Kellie
HaugenRK
Kellie has Shake and Kelly has Gidget!! :)