Budgie or Parakeet?
CHINESE JORDAN
i was just wondering, is there a noticeable size difference between a
budgie and a parakeet? if there is.....what is the average size of a
budgie and a parakeet? thanks in advance!
ray
Reynaldo A. Sacramento
: hi,
A budgie is what some people call a "parakeet". It is actually
not a parakeet though. Parakeet is a name used to decribe certain
species. (ie: Ring-neck parakeet). Budgies are in their own league.
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: hi,
: i was just wondering, is there a noticeable size difference between a
: budgie and a parakeet? if there is.....what is the average size of a
: budgie and a parakeet? thanks in advance!
: ray
A parakeet IS a budgie! So no difference at all!!
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Rose Lee
Parakeet is the small colorful bird seen in pet stores for around $20 or
so.
The bird commonly called a Budgie or English Budgie or (correctly)
Exhibition budgie is the same bird bred for many generations for show
qualities. The Exhibition budgie has changed so much from the original
bird that it is much like comparing your Aunt Bea's adorable little pet
poodle to the refined and manicured fashion model exhibited at the
Westminster dog show. Same breed....vast difference in appearance (and
usually in price.)
The Exhibition Budgie in the US is 9 inches long, broad shouldered, with
as large a head as the breeder can produce. They tend to be a sweet and
beautiful pet, calmer and more intelligent than the pet variety. They are
available in many beautiful colors and color combinations and as they are
raised for show by dedicated hobbyists they are usually very healthy.
Prices are from $25 to hundreds or even thousands of dollars for rare
colors or exception quality and, yes, like the show dog, they do have
pedigrees.
Bill Snell
JWilson153
" The bird that is commonly called a parakeet (incorrectly) or American
Parakeet is the small colorful bird seen in pet stores for around $20 or
so." ...snip " They tend to be a sweet and beautiful pet, calmer and more
intelligent than the pet variety"... snip
..." they are usually very healthy"
The generic term parakeet was attached (correctly) to the budgerigar many
years ago when no other parakeet was common in the pet market.
"Budgerigar, N. (native name) an Australian parakeet having a
greenish-yellow
body, marked with bright blue on the cheeks and tail, and wings striped
with
brown." Websters Unabridged.
If a Blue and Gold can be called a Macaw, then it is hardly incorrect to
call a Budgerigar a Parakeet.
Calmer, more intelligent ?
Exhibition budgies aren't calmer the're sluggish and poor fliers, bred for
size at the expense of agility. More intelligent only if breeding for show
standards somehow also selects for intelligence, not likely is my guess.
Usually very healthy ? If the comparison is to the common petstock
american parakeet this is a joke. With good care and no accidents an
american parakeet can easily live over 10 years. As a child my next door
neighbors parakeet died at 17. Ask any breeder of exhibition budgies how
many 5, 6 or 7 year old birds he has, none i'd guess. Just a few years ago
the breeder who was number 1 in England the previous year gave a talk at a
local club, refering to the loss of longevity in show budgies he said "My
old birds are Memorys." It may be assumed that exhibition budgies get
excellent care. Exhibition budgies are not as hardy as american budgies.
John Wilson
Liz Day
>
>The Exhibition Budgie in the US is 9 inches long, broad shouldered, with
>beautiful pet, calmer and more intelligent than the pet variety.
HEY! My 'mutt' parakeets (or budgies) are plenty intelligent!!
Who says the exhibition type is smarter? How do you know?
Our parakeets are extremely active, too.
People say the exhibition type are not just calm, they're stodgy.
L.Day
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Brad-Royan Webb
: Hi,
: can you tell what is the main difference between English and American
: budgies? I live in Finland and it makes sense to me that budgies have
<snip>
English budgies are usually much larger with a large head. The American
are actually more like the wild species, slimmer and with a narrow head.
The English are often referred to as Exhibit budgies since it really has
little to do with where they come from.
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Anu P Virtanen
: Calmer, more intelligent ?
: Exhibition budgies aren't calmer the're sluggish and poor fliers, bred for
: size at the expense of agility. More intelligent only if breeding for show
: standards somehow also selects for intelligence, not likely is my guess.
: Usually very healthy ? If the comparison is to the common petstock
: american parakeet this is a joke. With good care and no accidents an
: american parakeet can easily live over 10 years. As a child my next door
: neighbors parakeet died at 17. Ask any breeder of exhibition budgies how
: many 5, 6 or 7 year old birds he has, none i'd guess. Just a few years ago
: the breeder who was number 1 in England the previous year gave a talk at a
: local club, refering to the loss of longevity in show budgies he said "My
: old birds are Memorys." It may be assumed that exhibition budgies get
: excellent care. Exhibition budgies are not as hardy as american budgies.
: John Wilson
Hi,
can you tell what is the main difference between English and American
budgies? I live in Finland and it makes sense to me that budgies have
arrived here via England rather than via America. Though I guess nobody
has imported budgies for a long time.. however, is this English budgie
some new or quite new form of budgie? I'd just like to know which
type mine are. Unless they are Finnish budgies :)
Anu Virtanen
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Jennifer Wright
> Rose Lee states,
>
> " The bird that is commonly called a parakeet (incorrectly) or American
> Parakeet is the small colorful bird seen in pet stores for around $20 or
> so." ...snip " They tend to be a sweet and beautiful pet, calmer and more
> intelligent than the pet variety"... snip
> ..." they are usually very healthy"
>
>
> The generic term parakeet was attached (correctly) to the budgerigar many
> years ago when no other parakeet was common in the pet market.
>
> "Budgerigar, N. (native name) an Australian parakeet having a
> greenish-yellow
> body, marked with bright blue on the cheeks and tail, and wings striped
> with
> brown." Websters Unabridged.
>
> If a Blue and Gold can be called a Macaw, then it is hardly incorrect to
> call a Budgerigar a Parakeet.
>
Kinda funny too that "Budgerigar" is a corruption of the aboriginal name
meaning " good to eat" or something along those lines... I read that in a
budgerigar book.
Jen W.
Len Zielenski
>The bird that is commonly called a parakeet (incorrectly) or American
>Parakeet is the small colorful bird seen in pet stores for around $20 or
>so.
Don't you budgerigar?
>The bird commonly called a Budgie or English Budgie or (correctly)
>Exhibition budgie is the same bird bred for many generations for show
>qualities.
>The Exhibition Budgie in the US is 9 inches long, broad shouldered, with
>as large a head as the breeder can produce. They tend to be a sweet and
>beautiful pet, calmer and more intelligent than the pet variety.
Huh? Sweet depends on how they are raised and treated. If you consider
"misshapen" beautiful, well, to each his own. To my eye, they look
like a 10 lb head on a 5 lb. body. Calmer and more intelligent are
exactly the OPPOSITE of what every English budgie breeder I've ever
spoken with has to say. They are usually so highly inbred they are
spastic, flighty, and prone to illness. I'll also match
"intelligence" with the "american" variety my choice any day.
They are
>available in many beautiful colors and color combinations and as they are
>raised for show by dedicated hobbyists they are usually very healthy.
>Prices are from $25 to hundreds or even thousands of dollars for rare
>colors or exception quality and, yes, like the show dog, they do have
>pedigrees.
Can anyone say Inbred and Linebred?
Len
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Mike Owen
> Parakeets are Afro-Asian birds, running around 12" in length and
>include the Ringnecks and the plumheads.
>
> Budgies are a whole seperate Genus Species from AUSTRALIA
>
> Budgies MAY be related to the australian GRASS parakeets which
>BTW aren't related to the Afro-Asian Parakeets...
>
> Sheesh..buy a book..
>
>
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Its time you Americans decided what you all mean by Parakeet. I have a
book (I have lots in fact) published in America called "The New
Australian Parakeet Handbook" which covers just about all of our Parrots,
except for Cockatoos and budgies, but including Cockatiels! I have
another by the same American publisher called "The Pet Owners Guide to
Parakeets" which is about the budgie only. In all my Parrot and
Aviculture books I can find no reference to the Asiatic parrots being
called Parakeets. Incidentally the term Parakeet is not used at all in
Australia, and we have always thought of it as the American name for
budgies.
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Janet S. Levy
Len Zielenski <le...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>The Exhibition Budgie in the US is 9 inches long, broad shouldered, with
>>as large a head as the breeder can produce. They tend to be a sweet and
>>beautiful pet, calmer and more intelligent than the pet variety.
>
>Huh? Sweet depends on how they are raised and treated. If you consider
>"misshapen" beautiful, well, to each his own. To my eye, they look
>like a 10 lb head on a 5 lb. body. Calmer and more intelligent are
>exactly the OPPOSITE of what every English budgie breeder I've ever
>spoken with has to say. They are usually so highly inbred they are
>spastic, flighty, and prone to illness. I'll also match
>"intelligence" with the "american" variety my choice any day.
>
Well, I have to chime in on this subject, although I'm a little
late in following up. I have raised English budgies for 12 years,
although I don't show. I agree with the people who have said that
they tend to be less healthy than the American type (which I bred
first). I have a few that are 8-9 years old, but that is not
common. Many of my females, despite living uncaged on a low-fat
diet, tend to get heavy and don't fly well. They get fatty tumors
which lead to other problems.
As for their personalities, however, I disagree with the above. My
birds have always been gentle and friendly. I can't really say I've
ever had an English bird that was "spastic" or "flighty", but I had
many American birds like that. American birds from pet shops are
sometimes bred in large aviary conditions with no regard to weeding out
genetic faults in temperament or health. Although I have also had
super American birds, I've had ones that were ill-tempered or untameable.
Not so with the English. I've read that their calm temperament comes
from breeding for those birds that will sit calmly in a show cage for
hours. This may also be why they are so lazy!
I have little opinion on comparing intelligence between the birds, except
for saying that any "brainless" ones I've ever seen have been American.
The English are laid-back but not stupid. They learn to talk, figure
out their toys and how to get out of situations as well as American birds
according to my experience.
Janet Levy
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