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Jeremy Brown

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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I have been researching different types of parrots for a few months now,
and had narrowed down the type I'd like quite a bit. But, I just found out
that someone I know, who has a nanday conure may be willing to give it to me
for free or for very little. It seems that nobody in the house is really
interested or motivated enough to take care of the bird well enough or train
him like they should. I think he is tame enough that he will let them hold
him, so until I find out more, I'm holding out hope that he's not too wild.
My main concern is that I live in an apartment, and the book I have on
conures says that type of conure has a "loud, piercing screech" which
worries me a little. I'm afraid I might be setting myself up for trouble
with the neighbors. I'm wondering if anyone out there with this type of bird
might be able to help me decide if pursuing this might be a good idea or if
I should keep looking for a baby bird. Up until now, I was planning on going
with a very young bird, but the combination of getting a bird and supplies
free plus moving him to somewhere where he'd probably be better taken care
of makes him quite tempting.
I am also curious about what people think of moving a mature bird from
one family to another. I am thinking it might be troubling for the bird,
especially since he now lives with a family of four and I live alone, and
they live in a pretty good sized house and I live in a one bedroom
apartment. If anyone can offer advice on how to make that transition a
smooth one, I'd appreciate it if I decide to take him in. I've been doing a
lot of reading on all kinds of birds and haven't seen anything about moving
them. In case is hasn't become apparent yet, I have not owned a bird like
this before. I had a couple parakeets when I was younger, around 10 or 12,
but I had no idea how to take care of them, and looking back, it was
probably a mistake to have them. My dad would agree too. He was hospitalized
and nearly died from psittacosis he got from the second parakeet I had. I'm
hoping to do have better luck this time around.
Thanks in advance,
Jeremy

Janet S. Levy

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Jeremy Brown wrote:
>
> I have been researching different types of parrots for a few months now,
> and had narrowed down the type I'd like quite a bit. But, I just found out
> that someone I know, who has a nanday conure may be willing to give it to me
> for free or for very little.

Jeremy,

Although "free" IS very tempting, you are wise to be cautious. Of all
the medium and smaller parrots, if someone asked which is the noisiest,
probably the sun conure and nanday would have the biggest rep in this
department. At my bird club, nandays are a very common bird we have donated
for replacement due to noise problems.

I'm not saying you should definitely not get this bird. Maybe you should
visit it, see how tame or wild it is, and see if the people will speak
frankly about how noisy this individual nanday tends to be. Try to pick
up on whether they are being straight with you on this answer if you can.
Go with your gut instinct. I have never owned a conure, but know many who
do and they are super pets -IF you and your neighbors can handle the noise.

In general, you would probably do better starting with a baby of a quieter
species if you have an apartment where neighbors might complain.

Janet Levy

Marco

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Nanday's are loud! so are Sun's and Jendays. As are Cockatoo's as well.
A good apartment bird might be a Meyer's or a Senegal Red Bellied. or
related type . As in our experience these friendly clowns dont scream. Even
our African Grey Sweety does not scream. Good Luck
Regards Chuck

Jeremy Brown wrote:

> I have been researching different types of parrots for a few months now,
> and had narrowed down the type I'd like quite a bit. But, I just found out
> that someone I know, who has a nanday conure may be willing to give it to me

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Kellie

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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Jeremy, I have a sun conure, and although he doesn't yell often, he does have a
piercing screech that goes through walls with little effort. In fact, he's
three rooms away from me when I'm in my office and I can hear him quite
clearly. I don't know how Nandays compare, but I'll bet they're pretty loud.

About adopting an adult bird, it can work very well, especially if the bird is
already somewhat socialized. I adopted an M2 when she was 8 years old and she's
a family member now, and I adopted my sun conure when he was one year old and he
adjusted with virtually no effort. With the M2 we had the reverse case to
yours, in that the M2 went from being an only bird with a single man to being
part of a family with other birds, cats, dogs and kids. Even if the bird had
been neglected and needs to be worked with to gain his trust you can develop a
close friendship if you are willing to put in the time it takes.

If the bird isn't getting enough attention in a family of four, and he gets one
on one attention with you in a family of you and the bird, he might be a
thousand times happier. If you decide to adopt the bird, I'd schedule a vet
appointment as soon as you get him to have him checked out. Make sure he has a
variety of toys to entertain himself while you're gone- it might even help to
leave PBS on the TV to keep him occupied. My M2 watched CMT while her former
owner worked, and she loved Reba McIntyre. We still turn it on for her when
we'll be out of the house sometimes.

Good luck with your decision!

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BNGR8FUL

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I live in an apartment and own a Blue Crown. He's not as loud as most of the
nandays that ive met. But when he does scream, you can hear it 4 floors down in
the laundry room. Lucky for me, my landlord is a friend of mine, so I dont get
hassled about it. If you want a good apartment bird get a senegal.

Owly

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Apr 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/28/00
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I agree with Chuck that one of the poicephalus parrots might be ideal.
So would a pionus. So might a pyrrhura conure, such as a greencheek or
painted or maroon belly, especially if you have your heart set on a
conure. I have a Meyer's, a WC pionus, 2 lovables, and a tiel. And the
tiel is by far the loudest of all my birds.

owly
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Owly

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Oh GEEZ, I forgot to mention that I also have a green cheek conure...

The GCC and pionus and Meyer's are all "quiet" birds, and all have
excellent personalities. The GCC is the most active, the Meyer's is the
cuddliest and most "loyal", and the pionus is absolutely the sweetest
and very special.

owly
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Jeremy Brown

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Well, it's official.They're offering at least the bird for free. I don't
know about the cage, but I'm starting to think it won't matter. Up until
now, I had been pretty well set on a Senegal or maybe a Meyer. Either way,
they seemed like the best bet since noise is one of my biggest concerns.
I've also been considering a cockatiel and quakers, but the cockatiel seems
like it could be a little loud and I'm not particularly fond of the voices
of the quakers I've heard. All in all, I think the senegal might be the way
to go for me. I met one a couple weeks ago and almost decided on the spot
that one of those is what I wanted. All the research I've done has backed
that up. I knew taking the conure might be risky. It seems everyone's posts
have backed that up. I found a breeder that raises senegals not too far from
where I live. I think I'll pay them a visit. Thanks for all the advice!
Jeremy

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> Nanday's are loud! so are Sun's and Jendays. As are Cockatoo's as well.
> A good apartment bird might be a Meyer's or a Senegal Red Bellied. or
> related type . As in our experience these friendly clowns dont scream.
Even
> our African Grey Sweety does not scream. Good Luck
> Regards Chuck
>

Mike & Eliz

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We have 2 Nandays. When they decide to, they can be quite loud & have a
tone that grates on a lot of people's nerves. Guess it would depend a
lot on your neighbors. For the bird's sake, it would probably be better
off with someone willing to interact with it more. We've taken in
several birds under similar circumstances & while their is an adjustment
period, they seem to handle it reasonably well. If you're new to birds,
you may want to think about taking one in with problems, check out the
bird & see how you interact before making a decision. JMHO. Mike

Kellie

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Apr 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/29/00
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And make friends with the landlord!!

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Kellie

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> I've also been considering a cockatiel and quakers, but the cockatiel seems
> like it could be a little loud and I'm not particularly fond of the voices
> of the quakers I've heard.

If a cockatiel is too loud, you definitely don't want a Nanday. And whatchoo
talking about you don't like quaker voices??? ;-) Until you've had a quaker
sit on your shoulder and say, "Precious! You're a good bird, aren't cha?" you
ain't lived!

Randal

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Apr 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/29/00
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I think I remember reading in a "Bird Times" survey that this was the
one flock addition that bird owners regretted most. You might get the
one in 1000 Nanday that would make a great apartment pet but I would be
afraid to risk it - sometimes relocated birds will be quiet for a while
and then really start to "sing" after a few weeks or months.

I think a Senegal would be a fine choice. The pet store I frequent has
had several in the past few weeks and they are really sweet - one was
returned on consignment that was four years old and he was one of the
coolest birds I've met so far - friendly to everyone and a good talker
too, he lasted less than 48 hours and went home with a little girl he
really liked. I had seen pictures of these guys and was unimpressed but
I really like their coloration in person - even the gray is a
silver-gray with a graphite like sheen that's quiet beautiful. Good
luck deciding!
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<chanting> Meyers Meyers Meyers.....

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