T-Fal Also Bad?
Mamabird
if overheated.
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The Wrong Trousers wrote in message ...
>Forgive me if this has already been covered in the newsgroup, but is T-
>Fal cookware also bad for birds if overheated? We got rid of our
Teflon,
>but we do have some T-Fal. (And thank you to the person who mentioned
>the Teflon-coated bread pan in breadmakers... I had never thought of
>that before.)
>
>--Trou
>___________________________________________
>Always be kind to animals,
>Morning, noon and night
>For animals have feelings, too
>And furthermore, they bite.
Gord & Sher
The ironic part of all of this is that before that I had only enameled
lined pans. I still have the enamel sauce pots, but I think I will look
for an alternative frying pan. Losing one bird this year is all my poor
heart can stand.
Sher
Mamabird <mamabi...@suwanneevalley.net> wrote in article
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George Hurford
with no problems at all.
Ann Thibodeaux
George Hurford wrote in message <3634F5...@worldnet.att.net>...
>I've had birds for 15 years, and I've always used Teflon and T-Fal
>with no problems at all.
I have had birds for many years, have always used Teflon and T-Fal
with no problems at all until Thursday night when Jubilee died from
the fumes. Good luck. I hope you don't lose any of your birds because
it is indeed a bummer.
Kevin Chu
> I've had birds for 15 years, and I've always used Teflon and T-Fal
> with no problems at all.
So?
Want a gold star?
I jaywalk across busy streets sometimes, too.
Kevin
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Laura Mann
being sick of his birds, burned her t-fal pan. Guess what, she has not more
birds to bother her. What's the big deal with putting out a couple bucks to
keep an expensive pet safe. It only takes one time, and "bye bye birdie".
Alex Clayton
con...@worldnet.att.net (George Hurford) Re: T-Fal Also Bad?
no problems at all.
The problem comes from burning anything. if your the kind of cook who
sets off the smoke alarm and you keep your birds to close to the kitchen
you will kill them. The gas given off by PTFE if it is super heated does
not damage the birds lungs like plain smoke. There was reserch done on
this and I am sure it can be found on the net but the problem is like so
many things on the net a story gets started and before long people just
keep parroting it as fact. The gas from super heated PTFE is very toxic
but it does not affect birds or any animal like smoke.
You get a lot of people who make stuff up just to get attention like it
was some "new" finding. A lot of household cleaners are very toxic to
birds and can damage their lungs. You have to be very careful about what
you use around them.
As I have said many times before you have to be VERY careful about
geting info from the net.
"Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life take big bites.
Moderation is for monks."
>Lazarus Long
Ann Thibodeaux
Alex Clayton wrote in message
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The problem comes from burning anything.
True. Even cigarette smoke can be deadly; however, I knew a man
once who
had a 'tiel - 16 years he had him, and he would smoke pot and
the bird would
get stoned and he thought this was very nice! Then one day, he
bird was
at the door, trying to get some fresh air, probably, and the
door slammed shut.
no more bird.
The avian vet is the person who first told me about the teflon
thing. He has
done dozens of necropsies on 'tiels who have died of this
poisonous fume thing.
I have no dangous chemicals in the house, this left over from
when my nieces,
nephews and then grandchildren came to visit my home. The only
thing I may have
to watch with my new baby is hairspray and perfume, neither of
which I can ever
give up but I can confine the use to the powder room.
Benoit Evans
<3634F5...@worldnet.att.net>...
> I've had birds for 15 years, and I've always used Teflon and T-Fal
> with no problems at all.
>
You have been fortunate in one or both of the following ways:
1. You have not overheated a Teflon-coated pan.
2. Your birds are far from the kitchen or in a very well ventilated area.
However, your lack of problems is not a sufficient reason to suggest that
everyone can use Teflon-coated cookware without risk.
The American Veterinary Medical Association classifies Teflon emanations as
dangerous and potentially deadly for birds.
"Teflon toxicity occurs most often in pet birds and in the 1990 AAPCC
report on small animal poisoning, resulted in 5 of 425 fatalities. The
problem arises when pots or pans containing either Teflon or Silverstone
are left on a hot stove until heated to >280 degrees Celsius (generally
when a pan is forgotten on a hot stove for some time until it is "white
hot"). The result is the release of toxic particles into the air that cause
severe damage to the bird's lungs when inhaled. Birds are unable to clear
the toxic particles by exhaling, coughing, etc. and are therefore more
susceptible to this type of poisoning. Although hard to avoid as it results
from an accident, it might be a good idea to house pet birds a distance
from the kitchen (especially if you tend to be an absent-minded cook!)"
You can consult the AVMA's "A Pet Owerner's Guide to Small Animal Poisons
at the following address:
http://www.avma.org/pubhlth/poisgde.html
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K.-Benoit Evans
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Pam DeFraia
bird to another area id I am doing heavy frying....such as "Hot peppers"
which make me gag!
Pami
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