Re: Why is my dog a dork??
ThePupp...@mail.com
Melissa wrote:
> Quick & dirty background:
You want the TRUTH, melissa? Your BACKGRHOWEND is ARCHIVED FOREVER
in The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives
RIGHT HERE.
> I adopted a dog who was abused-
BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAHHAAAA!!!
You "ADOPTED" NUTHIN.
You BOUGHT a dog from a group of dog lovers
who HURT INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs and
RIP THEM OFF for their lives if they can't SELL
them to a SUCKER like you.
> -from the time he was bought (6 weeks old)
> to the time he came to live with me (8 months
> old) he had been kept in a vari-kennel almost
> all day and rarely if ever taken outside for
> walks etc.
You mean he's CRATE TRAINED.
> He knew how to sit, and his name and that's it.
That so?
> He was also kicked in the head and ended up losing his eye.
HOWECH...
> He has now been with me for 4 full months and I STILL can't
> get him to tell me when he has to go outside.
HOWEsbreakin is INSTINCTIVE at four months of age...
> Damn dog KNOWS when he has to go,
INDEED?
> but do you think he'll go to the door and ring the bell
> or bark or DO anything??
You trained your dog to ring a bell to go HOWET?
> No, he just calmly gets up and craps in the floor right behind me.
Yeah. THAT'S the result of CRATE TRAININ and PUNISHMENT.
> Every single time I put him outside, I make him ring the bell,
Well THAT'S SHEER IDIOCY.
> but he doesn't get the connection.
Duh?
> I keep him in a big wire kennel
You mean, his HOWES...
> when I'm gone during the day
And then you WONDER HOWE COME he SHITS in YOUR HOWES???
> because he has separation anxiety
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAA!!!
Separation anXXXIHOWESNESS is CAUSED BY MISHANLDING
and therefore can be CURED NEARLY INSTANTLY.
LIKE THIS:
"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This (Destructive Separation
Anxiety). I've Suggested It To Quite A Few
Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY TIME
The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer, 33
Years Experience.
From: Hoku Beltz
To: The Puppy Wizard
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 6:12 PM
Subject: Mahalo
Aloha Jerry,
Just wanted to let you know that the surrogate toy
technique is working wonders. I have not had a
shredded sheet for over a week now. It is nice
to be able to leave the bed made and come home
to a made bed.
Your program is awesome, but you already
know that. Keep up the good work!
Hoku
"Hoku Beltz" <h...@rsphawaii.com> wrote in message
news:SN2k9.45447$V7.10...@twister.socal.rr.com...
Aloha Sunny,
Just follow the training program to the letter, no matter how
insignificant some of the step seem to be and your pupy will
be a very well behaved dog in a few days.
I would seriously consider backing out of the training classes
as they will conflict with the Wit's End principles.
I went the training route first, and still had problems until I
found Wits' End. Now I have two "new and improved" dogs.
You won't be dissapointed if you follow the program.
Good luck,
Hoku
From: Chris Williams (k9ap...@webtv.net)
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST
Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.
A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.
She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.
Chris Williams writes:
"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"
> and he can't hurt himself or my house when he's in the
> kennel, and every single day I come home to poo squished
> and smeared all over the bottom of the kennel, pee in his
> blankets (and usually squished poo as well) and generally
> a big nasty mess.
Your dog is havin PAINICK ATTACKS on accHOWENT of you lock
IT in a box and deny IT food water and a break area, melissa.
> I really think he might have brain damage.
The Amazing Puppy Wizard AGREES that BRAIN DAMAGE MAY BE
YOUR PROBLEM, but your dog is FINE.
TRUST The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~ ) >
> I'm seriously at my wit's end.
You've been lockin your dog in a box to teach IT to behave
in your HOWES and you can't figger HOWET HOWE COME he's
DYIN from STRESS INDUCED AUTO-IMMUNE DIS-EASE aka The
Puppy Wizard's SYNDROME AS EVIDENCED by him shittin an
pukin in his CAGE <{) ; ~ ) >
> Everytime I think he's finally getting the hang of it,
You LOCK HIM IN BOX and tell him THAT'S HIS HOWES
and YOUR HOWES is HIS TERRORTORY TO F-HOWEL <{) ; ~ ) >
> he goes and makes a mess in the house--this is the first time in
> 2.5 weeks that he's messed in the house, and he did it 5 minutes
> after I put him out.
And of curse, you made a ISSUE HOWETA IT.
> He just refuses to go to the bathroom unless I'm standing
> there yelling at him,
Yeah. The Amazing Puppy Wizard NEVER SHITS unless some punk is
YELLIN at HIM to HURRY UP an shit... BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHHAA!!!
> but I can leave him out there for 15 minutes, just until he
> gets the urge to go (it seems) and then when I let him in, he
> poops on my carpet.
Your dog SHITS your HOWES on accHOWENT of you lock IT in a box
and INTIMIDATE and PUNISH him <{) ; ~ ) >
> So, any suggestions on how to train this dorky dog in a way
> that he might actually learn it in less than 4 months?
BWEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!!
The MENTAL CASES you're askin can't HOWEsbreak their dogs in
less than TWO YEARS, on the AVERAGE. You'd SEE THAT if you
READ The Amazing Puppy Wizard's Archives on Google, melissa.
You're askin LIARS DOG ABUSERS COWARDS and ACUTE ACTIVE LONG
TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES for ADVICE for the SAME SAME SAME
SAME PROBLEMS THEIR DOGS GOT from BEIN ABUSED JUST LIKE HOWE
you ABUSE YOUR DOG, melissa <{) ; ~ ) >
> Or, does anyone want a one-eyed,
> non-house-trained Maltese X??
The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ:
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest?
"With him, words play no torturing tricks...,"
--John Galsworthy.
Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> Please reply to my email as well, as I don't check the groups very
often.
Well then, you MIGHT just be HOWETA LUCK on accHOWENT of The
Amazing Puppy Wizard AIN'T TAKIN noMOORE PRIVATE EMAILS abHOWET
DOG BEHAVIOR <{) ; ~ ) >
> Thanks,
Here's your FREE copy of The Amazing Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual: http://makeashorterlink.com/?G34D2527A
Just ASK The Amazing Puppy Wizard if you
need any additional FREE heelp. There's NO
arbritrary INFORMATION in your FREE copy
of The Amazing Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW
Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual so
study it well and do and follow ALL the
EXXXERCISES AS INSTRUCTED... it's a
PRECISE SCIENCE or it COULDN'T GET 100%
CONSISTENT NEARLY INSTANT SUCCESS for
all handlers and all dogs in all fields
or utilities and behaviors all over the
Whole Wild World <{) ; ~ ) >
> Melissa
<"Terri"@cyberhighway wrote:
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his
> posts and watching him extract his soggy foot
> out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I've
> only seen 2 naive childs come forward and
> actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.
Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward
> and actually admit to buying and having success
> with his little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
> coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
> is sure to be coming to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says,
"poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
YourDog...@hushmail.com
Melissa wrote:
> Very few "free" things in life are actually free.
INDEED?
> No one seems to have considered my time or money spent on
> gas going to and from Matt's house on a daily basis.
Hmmm. An EXXXCELLENT point. Traveling to matty's HOWES
every day till your dog learns not to SHIT in your HOWES
will be HUGELY effective, melissa. Better take the simpleton
up on the offer to HOWEsbreak your dog for you.
> Yes it's a great offer, but it's not workable for me.
Yeah, and it AIN'T WORKABLE for your DOG, either, melissa.
Your pal matty is a lying dog abusing punk thug coward active
acute long term INCURABLE MENTAL CASE, melissa.
> "ceb" <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote in message
> news:Xns962F77EB6EFBA...@128.143.2.66...
>
> > Hi Melissa,
> >
> > I just wanted to encourage you to really strongly
> > consider taking Matt up on his offer.
You bet!
> > He really can help your dog
INDEEDY!
> > and I am sure he will treat you with respect.
Yeah, so long as she pays her own emergency vet bills
like he EXXXPECTED when he forced a other dog to swallow
his rubber squeaky toy matty was trying to bribe HOWETA
his M-HOWETH when the dog decided to attack him and steal
his bag of treats.
REMEMBER?
Nearly killed the dog and cost his owner over a THOWESAND bucks at the
emergency HOWEspital <{) ; ~ ) >
> > I have had times of great frustration with each of my dogs
Yeah, on accHOWENT of you're a dog abusing punk thug coward
ACTIVE ACUTE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASE like your pal matty.
> > and I think getting a break in caretaking can sometimes
> > be incredibly helpful -
That so? You mean like a little stay at your MENTAL HOWEspital?
> > - it really eases the burden of being a single dog-parent
> > (in my case).
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAA!!!
THAT'S INSANE.
ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
not BAD DOGS you freakin simpleons.
> > It sounds to me very much like you are feeling "at the end
> > of your rope"
You mean, AT HER WITS' EMD?
> > with your dog a lot of the time, and having the dog in
> > daycare, learning things in a new setting, will really
> > help both of you.
BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHHAHAAAAA!!!
> > And it's free.
No, matty ain't gonna let her get HOWET for FREE, imbeciles.
> > What have you got to lose?
Only her dog.
> > I really hope you will try it.
matty is a lying dog abusing punk thug coward mental case.
LIKE YOURSELF.
> > I know it can be hard to change one's mind when one has
> > already said no to something,
That so? You mean like NOT ABUSING dogs noMOORE?
> > but this could turn out to be a real lifesaver for you, so
> > why not try?
HOWE abHOWET on accHOWENT of matty's PROVEN HISTORY of
HURTIN and INTIMIDATING and ABUSING dogs and LYIN abHOWET it?
> > Catherine
> > & Zoe & Queenie
> > & Rosalie the calico
Here's your punk thug coward pal matty:
HOWEDY matty,
Rocky wrote:
> gdfai...@westshore.edu said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > This is currently all over the web. I never thought I would
> > do something like this but I just lost my job, I am a
> > single mother of 4 sons, one in Iraq, one in college and 2
> > still in school. I should be able to get unemployment,
> > but the bills are piling up and I figured what can it hurt.
> Does West Shore Community College know how you're
> using their internet connection?
They PROVIDE internet access for everyWON in the community, matty. They
DON'T CARE HOWE they're USED, so long as THEY'RE USED.
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
HOWEDY matty!
Looks like you're up to the same old same old, eh
my little mentally ill dog abusing punk thug coward
buddy?
> Trade: Exchange
Dogs are SCAVENGERS. They STEAL SCRAPS
and run to hide to eat them with their back to the
wall in a heightened state of alert.
> the toy she's holding for the one you have in your hand.
Trying to take STUFF from a dog who DON'T TRUST
YOU will TEACH IT to RUN, HIDE, and SWALLOW
STUFF so you can't TAKE IT and MAY teach IT to
ATTACK YOU and TAKE YOUR STUFF to boot.
> The P
There AIN'T NUTHIN POSITIVE abHOWET
TAKIN AWAY STUFF, matty. You ADD VALUE
to STUFF you TRY to TAKE AWAY from the
dog, matty. THAT makes dogs PROTECTIVE
of their STUFF, matty.
> will come from the toy you're offering
You mean, to get the dog to RESPECT your
COMMAND to LEAVE IT, matty? We was
talkin to your pal taragreen2 from NYC abHOWET
her LEAVE IT COMMAND when she suddenly
got CHOKED UP and couldn't teach us HOWE
to POISON PROOF a dog, matty.
PERHAPS you can ADVISE US, as marie was
ASKIN abHOWET IT for her own HOWETA CON-
TROLL dog Macula and her HOWETA CON-TROLL
twins who are LEARNIN to DISRESPECT her for
BRIBING them JUST LIKE HOWE her dog Macula
has LEARNED to elicit BRIBES and carry on her
HOWETA CON-TROLL BEHAIVORS.
Like HOWE your pal melanie change is doin with
her HOWETA CON-TROLL dogs Solo and her
peeing Pekinese you and your punk thug coward
mental case pals told her to JERK and CHOKE
to break his HOWES PISSIN on accHOWENT of
HE'S ABUSED.
> and the way you're offering it;
You mean, TEASING the dog with an alternate
REWARD for STEALIN STUFF, matty? You're
a MENTAL CASE, matty.
> that is, make the exchange worthwhile.
THAT'S INSANE!
> There's plenty of good beginning stuff,
You mean like a 100% INSTANTLY RELIABLE
COME COMMAND trained NEARLY INSTANTLY
and FOR FREE, to boot, matty?
> but "trade" is the best thing Aussie Rocky learned as a pup.
Well THAT'S IDIOCY matty. You "TRAINED" your
dog to TRADE STUFF HE STOLE for a REWARD???
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
CERTAINLY even a MENTAL CASE can SEE THAT
AIN'T NORMAL THINKIN, matty. IN FACT, your own
POSTED CASE HISTORY SHOWES US otherWIZE:
From: "The Puppy Wizard"
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 18:38:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Puppy Temper Tantrums...
HOWEDY matty,
"Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
news:Fri95A66E7693239au...@rocky-dog.com...
> >>To put a dollar value on it: A "drop it" command would
> >>have saved an acquaintance a $1000 surgery bill on her lab.
That so?
Seems the DROP IT command happens AFTER
the dog has TAKEN the FORBIDDEN FRUIT.
> >> Said lab (not a puppy) wouldn't give up a squeaky
> >> and, when presented with a treat in exchange,
You mean as a BRIBE to release what IT got
in ITS MHOWETH that YOU WANT MOORE
than the stinkin weenie you're offerin IT in
EXXXCHANGE?
EVEN A DOG GOT MOORE BRAINS than
to fall for THAT kinda IDIOCY.
> > > made the decision to swallow the toy
As ANY critter would, being PURSUED by
a COMPETITOR, dog lovers. What do you
EXXXPECT a dog to do when you're fixin
to STEAL his BHOWENTY.
> >> and then grab and swallow the treat bag.
THAT'S what The Amazing Puppy Wizard's
been TELLIN you bums in HIS N.I.L.I.F. Posts.
REMEMBER, matty?
The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ the dog is
fixin to tell yout to SHOVE IT and RIP YOU
OFF for your weenies and FIGHT you if you
offer a protest.
THAT'S HOWE COME your stinkin N.I.L.I.F.
program GETS SOME DOGS DEAD, matty.
> > I'm very sorry for what must have been a terrible
> > scare for your friend as well the risk to the dog,
MOST of HOWER DOG LOVERS here abHOWETS
have BEEN THROUGH the SAME SAME SAME SAME
for the SAME SAME SAME SAME REASON.
THAT'S HOWE COME The Amazing Puppy Wizard
goes "BWEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!"
REMEMBER NHOWE, matty, you lying dog
abusing punk thug coward MENTAL CASE?
BWEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
> > but it's hard not to admire a dog with
> > advanced problem-solving skills.
BULLSHIT.
The dog attacked the bag of treats based on
PREDICTABLE NORMAL NATURAL INNATE
INSTINCTIVE REFLECIVE behavior.
A freakin CHIMPANZEE woulda seen THAT comin.
> It was a scare for me, too.
That so, matty? No "skin off your nose," eh matty?
Hey? That's abHOWET HOWE and where leah got
bit, too.
> How's this for problem-solving:
AllHOWE The Amazing Puppy Wizard to
CONsult HIS crystal ball. Ooops! SEZ you're
a lying dog abusing mental case and you
can't post your idiocy here abHOWETS no
doGgamened MOORE.
> The dog went for the hand that was holding the
> bag of treats, not the treat in the proffered hand.
SHAAAZZZAAAMMM?
> In doing so, she scraped up my hand fairly well
The dog BIT you matty. JUST LIKE HOWE
The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ a dog is
SUPPOSED TO DO, matty, on accHOWENT
of THAT is the NATURE of the BEAST.
> (I was attempting the trade
Dogs ain't into TRADING, matty. They
don't CARE abHOWET your "VALUES."
> after my acquaintance stood still after saying
> "drop it drop it drop it" and after her attempted
> wrestling away didn't work).
You went an stuck your hand in the dog's face
to teach IT to RESPECT you for a WEENIE.
> BTW, this was the second time this dog had
> had bowel surgery and the Nth time she wouldn't
> give up a toy to the owner.
Well, perhaps THAT'S on accHOWENT of
all the REINFORCEMENT you've done on
this behavior problem by REWARDING
BAD BEHAVIORS with TREATS, eh matty?
> I told her to get her dog to the vet ASAP,
On accHOWENT of you fed IT a whole bag
of "treats" to wash DHOWEN a squeeky toy
you din't have the INTELLECT to GET THE
DOG TO PLAY WITH?
> but she waited until the next day.
"Birds of a feather," eh matty.
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"We Had "Come" Down Pat In A Few Reps
And You Could Have Knocked Me Down
When I Tried The Exercise With "Drop" And,
After A Few Reps In Different Spots Darwin
Practically *Threw* The Ball At My Feet On
Command," Ben.
Hi, Jerry.
I'm not sure that I'm a 100% convert, or that I agree
with (or even understand) 100% of what you say in this
manual ... BUT ... we had "come" down pat in a few
reps and you could have knocked me down when I tried
the exercise with "drop" and, after a few reps in
different spots Darwin practically *threw* the rubber
ball at my feet on command. He's still not perfect
(just a pup, after all, and he's stubborn enough to
want to push and test me a little bit more).
For what it's worth, I can see (as no doubt you have)
how your usenet manner is likely to rankle a few
folks, but that woman who advocates ear pulling and
beating with sticks deserves everything she gets. Even
if that was the only method that would work, I'd live
with my dog not fetching rather than do any of that.
(Darwin fetches enthusiastically and instinctively,
tho').
Best, ben
===================
You can't post here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE
on accHOWENT of you're a liar a dog abuser a coward
and active long term incurable MENTAL CASE:
From: "The Puppy Wizard"
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:53:37 GMT
Subject: Re: I made a mistake... and WOW!
"Suja" <spana...@scs.gmu.edu> wrote in message
news:3F201B31...@scs.gmu.edu...
> Tracy wrote:
> > And how do I send piccies to the newsgroup without clogging the
system??
> Generally, you don't ;-) If you have a website, post the
> pictures there and give us the link. You can also try the
> free sites that let you host your pictures. If that's all
> too complicated, some of us here will put them up on our
> sites for you. Can't wait to see your Rocky's pics. I'm
> sure he's altogether too cute for words.
> > And, again, thank you so much to all of you, its a pleasure
> > being here with such benevolent people.
> Hey, not all of us are dog/people abusing thugs, you know?
> Suja
"Paul J. Berg" <pjb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5370-3F1...@storefull-2197.public.lawson.webtv.net...
> A Portland Oregon website for dog haters
> <http://www.leashyourdog.com/>
HOWEDY Paul J. Berg,
Perhaps they're like that on accHOWENT of
folks like marie and Macula and looney toons
and Ezra and melanie and Solo and chrisman
dinan and Usal and cHOWENTLESS many of
HOWER DOG LOVERS and their DEAD DOGS
we've ENTERTAINED TO DEATH here on HOWER
forum who've assaulted folks in pubic.
Many of HOWER dog lovers DESERVE to be
PUNISHED for HOWE they mishandle their dogs.
beyond click and treat, click and love
Date: 2003-07-12 20:12:10 PST
HOWEDY Hal,
"Hal" <universat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7a337042.03071...@posting.google.com... :
> I have recently been reading about training methods,
Got some bad news for ya, Hal. You've been wastin your
time with malarkey that don't fit The Puppy Wizard's scientific
model on training and behavior of animals and children.
> coercive,
That's the dealbreaker right there, Hal. That's HOWE COME
we're on the brink of WWW111.
It's nuthin to be disconcerted abHOWET, it's been HOWER
human nature since Day WON. The same discussions we're
havin over HOWE to hurt a dog pupperly are the same discusions
we've had in every war and hate crime ever since the snake
lied to Eve...and we been balmin the snake and hidin HOWER
nekkidness and when found, ask "who, ME Lordy?"
The gig is up. The Puppy Wizard has driven HOWER Gang
of lying dog abusing punk thug cowards into mass hysteria
in an effort to distract us from the issue of non force trainin
bein 100% EFFECTIVE vs hurtin and killin HOWER best 10%.
Only the best and smartest dogs turn on their abusers.
HOWER dogs lovers try to "breed dHOWEn" their dog's
nintelligence so they can control them. You'll see in The
Puppy Wizard's archives HOWER illustriHOWES dogman
tellin us he's AFRAID of SMART DOGS.
Give ya a example, Hal. This is gonna TAKE YOU HOWET.
HOWER sar, military, and police dogs are being mishandled.
That's HOWE COME they missed the bone in the park in the
Chandra Levy case in DC and the Smart girl WITHIN EAR
SHOT OF HER and the Ocala Ax Man hot on the trail minutes
after the crime. He's laughin his arse off right nHOWE.
Here's HOWE COME dogs like Herra went HOWETA control
and killed Diane Whipple and these search dogs seeminly
couldn't find their arses if their tails was on fire. The dogs
learn EVERY THING. They likeWIZE understand HOWE
to train their handlers.
The dogs know they don't get jerked and choked while trackin
cause the handler dont' know where the find is. HOWER geniuses
are afraid they'll break their dogs of searchin. Trackin jobs are a
walk in the park for them, they know they can't get hurt.
THAT'S HOWE COME lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn's hand
picked selectively bred meticulHOWElesly trained will achieve
HIGH SCORES in the ring, but will not work a sar JOB. That's
on accHOWENT of she trains in a ring environment six days
a week, whether he needs it or not. She thinks the dog is
gonna FORGET HOWE to do a command if she doesn't
work IT nearly daily. CORRECTIONS NEVER END.
UNTIL THEY GO TO TRACKIN~
The dogs will enjoy a romp in the park and when they
get hungry will go a road and sit to tell the handler the
subject "got in a car and got away."The dogs KNOW
that's the ONLY excuse the hadndler's will accept so
they can go back to their HOWES and cHOWE dHOWEN.
> non...etc.
HOWE can a intelligent human bein justify hurting and
intimidating or ignoring the emotional needs of a dumb
animal or child?
Effective non physical scientific and psychological handling
techniques modifiy behaviors in a consistent manner or they
wouldn't be scientific. The C/T mehtod IS scientific, but it's
failure ratio is GUARANTEED MINIMUM of 10% soon as the
critter has access to any free food, according to the US Military
Marine Mammals corps.
> I definitely dont like the idea of coercive training.
That's the ONLY reason HOWER DOG LOVERS have behavior
problems in their dogs and need to crate them to control the
behaviors they don't have the intellect to HOWEtwit.
> I believe the reason a dog should do things for the human
> is out of loyalty,
Well, THAT'S a little altruistic and anthropomorphilogical. To be MOORE
accurate, we'll call it PACK INSTINCT.
> not fear. This applies to click and treat too...
Well, fancy that??? The c/t methods is highly recommended
here abHOWETS. shirly chong's website teaches us CRAPHOWES
clicker trainin that is so precisly taught, she allows the dogs to
reward themselves on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar
and if that doesn't TURN THEM ON, she'll break HOWET the
shock collar and aversive sprays.
Crating is a necessity cause their dogs never learn self control.
The clicker method teaches greed and birbes usurp the handler's
authority and disctact the dog from the concept of the commands
he's learning. As an added bonus for exclellent performance, the treat
is withheld till the dog starts "throwin behaviors."
The state of mind that accesses the dog's "throwin of behaviors" to
elicit a treat, is THE SAME SAME SAME SAME
STATE OF MIND WHERE OBSESSIVE / COMPUSLIVE / SEIZURE BEHAVIORS LIVE.
Subsequently, when the dog is asked to do a command like sit
at the door to greet a guest, the dog AUTOMAGICKALLY reflexe
to the state of mind in which the command was taught, and may
likely break the command or even become aggressive, as the
thouhts of FOOD often provoke flight/fight/aggression. Dogs
often fear people offering them bribes cause that's not natural.
Dogs are scavengers who steal scraps and run to hide to eat
it with their back to the wall in a heightened state of alert.
Dogs like that get DEAD at HOWER shelters... Teaching a
little TRUST would make the dog accept the treat withHOWET
suspicion. But nothin will take the anxiety HOWETA the command
so long as we reinforce it occasionally.... REINFORCEMENT NEVER ENDS.
At least for those of us who's dogs prefer FORCE to bein asked
NICE to do sumpthin and being told good boy before the command
is finished leavin HOWER lips. The dog got no goddamned choice
but to want to do as we ask.
WE NEVER GOT TO TELL THEM "NO!' WE NEVER GOT TO
GIVE THEM A EVIL EYE OR STARE OR LOCK THEM IN BOXES
TO CONTROL THEIR HOWET OF CONTROL BEHAIORS CAUSE
WE DON'T PROVOKE ANIMOSITY OR MISTRUST.
> the dog shouldnt (in my ideal fantasy
Pssst? HOWE COME you think The Puppy Wizard got the title?
> which may never come to pass)
JUST DID, if you're SMART ENOUGH to do what all the
other successful handlers and trainers The Puppy Wizard
has taught all over the Whole Wild World from settin right
here, stark ravin nekkid..
> obey the owner or stay out of trouble
TROUBLE IS THE DEAL BREAKER.
You cannot intimidate your dog a few inches HOWETA
your arm's reach... unless you got a shock collar on IT.
> because they will get to eat,
The Puppy Wizard only feeds HIS dogs if Mrs. Puppy Wizard
is HOWETA toHOWEN or deathly ill.
> but because they love the owner so much
All it takes is BRIEF, CONSTANT, INTERMITTENT,
PROLONGED, NON PHYSICAL PRAISE.
> that they are eager to please,
They'll do anything we ask cause they ENJOY WORKIN
with their pack. But the alphalpha theory bunk is not
what we're talkin here. That's for the goddamned fruitcakes
like alpha sweeny. He's quite the expert on dog trainin.
> ideally now, at ALL costs, (including dieing for the owner).
See "Llama Spit" if you wanna see moore intricate dog abuser
thinkin on stuff like that and breakin a command. Might wanna
look up "learned disobedience." That's a SKILL guide dogs are
taught over hundreds of HOWERS of work to insure the dogs
won't follow a blind man's command into a dangerHOWES
situation. HOWER DOG LOVERS WOULD CHOKE AND
SHOCK their own dogs for doin. It's sumpthin a non force
trained dog will ASK PERMISSION TO DO cause he does not
FEAR failure to perform a command.
We also have a Ace in the hole. WE train commands as
a condtioned reflex. Takes abHOWET a HOWER to train
a reliable come command.
> My question, Is there any way of training anyone has info
> about or knows about that is akin to what I describe?
All that AND THEN SOME. But HOWER DOG LOVERS would
rather see your dog DIE than tell you HOWE the scores of
FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual Students
with 100% NEAR INSTANT SUCCESS STORIES done it EZ
FAST and FOR FREE.
HOWER DOG LOVERS CALL THEM LIARS FORGERIES
AND PAID SHILLS FOR The Puppy Wizard.
> If it helps to know what type of breed I meen the smarter varieties,
A DOG IS A DOG, Hal.
> maybe wolf hybrids
Them too, only they work EVEN BETTER.
> and aussie cattle dogs.
SAME SAME!
The "high drive" dogs are the EZIEST to train cause
THEY'RE MOTIVATED. All we got to do is change
their PRYORITIES.
> Thanks for any help about this conflict.
You've thus far seen NO "expert" here tell you it's
possible or even desirable to do what The Puppy
Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Students REPORT RIGHT HERE.
That's HOWE COME the killfile Jerry campaigns.
HOWER DOG LOVERS will do and say ANYTHING
to defend what they ENJOY doin to their dogs.
UNLESS THEY BELIEVE ALL THEM GOOD PEOPLE
ARE LIARS... what do you think, Hal? You think all
them post sayin "THANKS JERRY! Your Method /
Machine SAVED MY DOG'S LIFE" are FORGERIES?
HOWEDY matty,
"Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93AFC897B338Faustralianshepherdca@IP...
> Hilbert said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> [Hilbert replies to Jar Jar]
You mean, The Puppy Wizard, matty? Here's some of
the latest research you'll be pleased to learn abHOWET:
R&D Systems: IL-6
Everything Cytokine & Beyond
ELISAs, proteins, antibodies & more
www.RnDSystems.com
Kinda substantiates The Puppy Wizard's BOGUS claims
abHOWET HOWE COME your dog got SEIZURES and
your pal professor lyin doc SCRUFF SHAKE dermer's little
dog Maxie The Magnificent Obsessively Compulsive Masturbator's
got chronic irritiable bowel syndrome...
> > As for crossposting: my news client doesn't allow for that...
The Puppy Wizard will be pleased to repost responses from
such unfortunate readers, so other dog lovers will have benefit
of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits' End Dog Training
Method Manual Student's reports.
Don't you think that's very kindly of The Puppy Wizard, matty?
> As for your news client, since you're savvy to use slrn on linux,
That's all Greek, to The Puppy Wizard. The Puppy Wizard
specializes in living beings, not computer programs. IN FACT,
training engineers and psychologists has ALWAYS been the
most difficult job, for The Puppy Wizard, as they are linear
thinkers and have great difficulty relating to dog behavior and
understanding the HOWE'S and HOWE COME'S of behaviorISM
as taught by The Puppy Wizard.
> I'd think that you'd have learned how to use slrn to snip
> what you're replying to.
What does matty FEAR so, that he's got to WORRY abHOWET
HOWER DOG LOVERS learning the BEST INFORMATION, in
this land of the FREE? Oh, The Puppy Wizard almost FORGOT,
matty is canadian, probably the get of WON of HOWER draft
evaders and a cannuk business lady and WON too many of
Govenor General's. Well, so be it matty. The Puppy Wizard
does not discriminate based on BREED.
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Oh, hey??? Here's what matty is WORRIED abHOWET
folks, seein him HURTIN DOGS and LYING abHOWET
it. Be SHORE to read down to matty's INTELLECTUAL
discussion with Professora Daniel, in defense of HURTIN
DOGS:
> > > Jerome Bigge writes:
> > > I do know that hitting, hurting
> > > your dog will often make the
> > > dog either aggressive or a fear
> > > biter, neither of which we want to do.
> > And neither does anyone else,
> > Jerome. No matter
> > what Jerry Howe states.
"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
33 Years Experience.
> > You're scary Marilyn.
> > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
> > individual. I feel very sorry for her
> > and her family.
"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
> > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> > doubt, please provide a quote (an
> > original quote, not from one of Jerry
> > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> > shows a regular poster promoting or
> > using an abusive form of training.
BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
> > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"BethF" <d...@alaska.com> wrote in message
news:ugc7us3...@corp.supernews.com...
> "Frank" <flmarc...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:d2f1624e.02061...@posting.google.com...
> > dfrntdr...@aol.comMURK-OFF (Leah) wrote in message
<news:20020610173326...@mb-fx.aol.com>...
> > > >"brianev" bria...@attbi.com wrote:
> > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > do with their dogs.
:
> > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > dogs are lies.
:
> > > All of it. Every last bit.
:
> > All of it?
:
> > Ear pinching?
:
> > Shock collars?
:
> > Spiked chokers?
:
> > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > Howe does in his accusing of them.
:
> Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
> Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> let alone respond to them.
"Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAau...@130.133.1.4...
> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > When you compare using sound and
> > praise to solve a problem with using
> > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > how can you criticize the use of sound?
> There's nothing more to be said, then.
> You've made up your mind.
> But you've impressed me by mentioning
> that you're a professor with 30 years of
> experience.
> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?
BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
You think matty's playin with a full
goddamned deck?
matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
Isn't that true, Marilyn?
Of course not, but THIS IS:
"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
professora gingold.
"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."
You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?
"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"
Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray one
squirt
directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog won't be too
thrilled
with this but just ignore him and continue your normal behavior."
You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"
You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's Shoulder,
Grabbed
Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand, Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On
Her,
Smartly Growled Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her
Ear," sionnach.
Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context,
because you are full of bizarro manure."
"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer.
You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
HURT THEIR DOGS?
"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."
Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the chest,
step
on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all over it like a
raped
ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his ears, or leash pop it
on a
pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in the snout with the heel
of
your palm.
"Marshall Dermer" <der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:a3h5qn$mra$1...@uwm.edu...
> >Di,
> I don't believe you mentioned a particular
> kind of training. If you are interested in
> training retrieval behavior than do
> consider our own Amy Dahl's:
> The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
> Well-Mannered, Obedient and
> Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
> Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
> just $17.95 at Amazon.com.
> (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> few regulars here who are either ill-
> tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
> --Marshall
Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
amy lying frosty dahl continues:
"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome
Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"
BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.
CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.
When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished
This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"
If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.
"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer (der...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu)
In article <38CC0C43.94E2D...@earthlink.net>
rhurw...@earthlink.net writes:
>> -snip headers etc.
>> Yes. you're right, I really should find
>> the book.. they don't have these books
>> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
>> do you find Koehler?
> I got a nice large print copy from
> Amazon.com
>Richard
Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:
Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.
Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,
========================================================
Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!" into
its
face for 5
seconds:"
"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
Hanging
"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then he
starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
makes his
grab.
Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.
As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
suspended
in mid-air.
However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.
The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.
When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.
The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you
THE REAL "HOOD"
"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.
When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.
"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."
"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."
Are we havin FUN yet?
Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?