Australian Cattle Dogs IS A DOG JUST LIKE Any Other Dog
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Gary Edsell wrote:
> I just picked up an approximately 6 month old female ACD from the
> local Animal Control here. As I type, she is being spayed.
Surgical sexual mutilation makes some dogs fear aggressive.
> I am> picking her up on my way home from work. I've read the
> majority of the Training Tips on here,
That so?
> and I have three well behaved miniature pinschers.
Good.
> Typically, new dogs fall in line with my minpins pretty
> quickly and get into the normal routine. However, I want this ACD to
> be better trained and more obedient than the minpins.
You mean you let them sort it HOWET.
> I understand that they are more intelligent
A dog is a dog.
> and will test their limits more.
Oh, THAT'S a direct result of the alphalpha theory bunk, Gary.
Dogs are EZ to train if you DON'T DO what the EXXXPERTS teach
us to do to HOWER dogs, like surgically mutilating and lockin
them in boxes and choking shockin and spraying aversives in
their faces.
> I was hoping for any advice that could be offered in training,
You been readin these forums, Gary?
> such as what problems you've had
ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING.
> and what sort of remedies have worked for you.
There's only WON correct effective method to train ALL dogs and
children.
> Also, my ultimate goal is that I would like this dog to be one that I
> can have off of a leash and that will reliably stay with me and obey
> voice commands.
You can train your dog to perimeter and 100% reliable come command
in abHOWET WON HOWER of EZ GENTLE SCIENTIFIC and PSYCHOLOGICAL
conditioning, Gary.
You mean, like THIS, Gary?:
"JoeTheGuru" <joetheg...@hotmail.com.NOSPAM wrote in
message news: 3cab77eb$0$9993$afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au...
JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!
or it could be a troll <are you a troll??
do not use it on your dog.....
would you use it on your best friend.....
I have read jerry's book, it seems too easy at first.
however I started to use some of the training out of
it and now.
I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a
trial.<great dane X mastiff
I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.
I have a dog that comes when ever I call.
I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs
away.
I have a dog that stands still to be washed
with the cold hose.
I have a dog that never pulls on
the lead when we walk.
I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a
dog should from my 2 year old <and loves it
I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some
ones there.
I have a dog that would not care less if there is
another dog in the park <only wants to be with and
please me though a lot of this is due to me training
the dog <spending the time with the dog.
jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but
just to work with the dog. which I liked the idea of
hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train
them.
I look forward to my next puppy <ban dog so
I can use the information from jerry's book
and see just how good a dog can get.
the dog I have now was when I picked her up from the
RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea. cowered
from every noise <and wet her self, messed in the
house at every turn. acted like I was killing her
when I dragged her over to the mess.
this was A 6 month old pup that had been beaten <2.5
feet to the shoulder. I could of taken her back
however I knew I could bring her back to being to be a dog.
the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog is a dog
to be proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to
the shoulder and still growing.
so well behaved even when people walk passed with a
out of control dog. gentle with my child and trust
worthy < I never have to worry that my dog
will bite her, only have to worry if a stranger
comes over to my child. still that is not a worry
she places herself between my child and the
stranger
I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the
crap out there it is good to see that someone has
moved forward. looked at a different way to train
dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face <
you should back off a little jerry however he is
sick of the bashing, choking, shocking, shaking and
everything else. so jerry save this lad from ruining
his dog. later, Joe
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> I've read opinions on both side of the fence about the no leash idea,
You mean that no dog can be 100% RELIABLE off lead, Gary.
Dogs are UNRELIABLE when people use fear force intimidation
bribery avoidance and withholding attention affection "rewards".
> but I would like to hear from some folks
> that actually have this breed of dog.
A dog is a dog, Gary. We don't DISCRIMINATE amongst dogs anyMOORE
than we do amongst people, Gary. They're ALL THE SAME SAME SAME SAME.
> If anyone would know of a good message board or forum regarding these
> dogs, I'd appreciate it if you could pass this along as well.
You'll be gettin a load of tripe, Gary.
> Thanks
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"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news:
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I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know
she's not here with us. I really can't blame anyone
here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because
of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the
idea that my using a shock collar could have any
bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running off for
days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in
the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world
now <g A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely
housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the
yard, and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
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misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message
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We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want
to come back in the yard and would run for days.
The last time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how
to train my dog.
She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no
longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk
around the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate
the e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a
regular fence then you need to train your dog.
I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my
dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-(
~misty
From: Nevyn (greatd...@badmama.com.au)
Subject: Re: radio fence
Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST
Hi folks,
In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste
of time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a
rich snob who cares nothing about their dogs safey or
behaviours.
At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked
area (Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1
services building and 2 catterys which is surrounded
by scrubland to the east and woodlands to the north
and a lake to the west).
This works well, because then when people buy them the
dogs are easier to boundary train to a door or fence
or yard.
However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who
I trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
www. doggydoright. com will not go past the back door,
or the back gate or the front gate without permission.
And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you
can leave your gates open for people, and your dogs
won't be the least concerned.
I find this better then spending your well earned
money on a piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a
horse? Or a new house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a
nursery for a child?
Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn
Nevyn E. D. Veterinary Nurse & Animal Trainer
greatd...@badmama.com.au
"You can judge a man's heart by his treatment
of animals"
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For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
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The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
Same same same same applies to rearing children
or successful interpresonal relationships with ALL
critters, includin SP-HOWESES, employees, and
employers.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest?
"With him, words play no torturing tricks...,"
--John Galsworthy.
Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
<"Terri"@cyberhighway wrote:
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his
> posts and watching him extract his soggy foot
> out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I've
> only seen 2 naive childs come forward and
> actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.
Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward
> and actually admit to buying and having success
> with his little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
> coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
> is sure to be coming to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says,
"poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
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