Re: Wont "go" outdoors. aarrgghh!!
TheAmazing...@mail.com
THAT'S HOWE COME you can't train your own dog...:
Melissa wrote:
> You might want to read the "why is my dog a dork" post that I
started.
> Also, try a clicker or anything else that you think might motivate
her.
> Keep her on a leash INDOORS (so that she can't GET to the utility
room) and
> every hour, take her outside. Put a word to it. Take her out WITH the
other
> dog, and praise HIM lavishly (use a keyword like "pee" or "poo") and
IGNORE
> her completely unless she does something you like (ie goes to the
bathroom).
> Click/praise/treat LAVISHLY when she does do it. Use the keyword
ALOT.
> Also make sure you buy some special cleaners to clean up the room
where she
> is messing. Bleach/ammonia or things like that will make the dog WANT
to go
> there again, not get rid of the smell. If she is NOT spayed, consider
> getting her spayed (unless she is going to be bred, obviously).
> If there is anything else you might want to ask, feel free to email
me
> offline.
>
> Good luck.
> Melissa
>
> "bobby davies" <bobb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3b0arrF...@individual.net...
> > Hi All,
> > I'm new to the group and would really appreciate some
> > help.....pleeeeaaassssseeeee!!
> > We have an Irish soft coated wheaten terrier. She will be 8 months
old on
> > 1st April. We got her two months ago from her breeder. She has not
once,
> > since we got her, gone to the loo outdoors. She seems to think the
utility
> > room is her bathroom. We have a male springer (6yrs old) who
performs
> > outdoors and when she sees this she goes over and has a sniff, puts
her
> > nose in the air as if disgusted and strutts off. We live beside a
busy
> > road and she has gotten through the ditch once so she's been on aan
> > extendable lead when taken outdoors ever since. We all carry
biscuits and
> > treats in our pockets for when she does "perform" outside, but
we've not
> > had the chance to give them to her. My wife takes her out first
thing in
> > the morning, and three or four times throughout the day then she's
out
> > again twice at night. She's given out to when she goes indoors and
is
> > immediatly put on the lead and taken outside, but it seems all this
is to
> > no avail. I've walked her round the gardens for over an hour and a
half
> > only to have her come inside and do her business straight away. Im
coming
> > to the end of my tether, I've tried everything and would appreciate
any
> > tips, advise or hints anyone can give me.
> >
> > TIA
> > Bob
> >
ThePupp...@mail.com
bobby davies wrote:
>
> Hi All,
You mean 'HOWEDY Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk
Thug Cowards And ACTIVE ACUTE LONG TERM INCURABLE
MENTAL CASES', Bobby.
> I'm new to the group
The Amazing Puppy Wizard SEZ "DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT POST
HERE abHOWETS, doGgamenedit".
> and would really appreciate some help.....
BWEEEEAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!
> pleeeeaaassssseeeee!!
Look up the POSTED CASE HISTORIES of the LYING DOG
ABUSING PUNK THUG COWARDS you're askin for ADVICE, Bobby.
> We have an Irish soft coated wheaten terrier.
A dog is a dog, Bobby. ALL temperament and behavior
problems are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING as taught by the
Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards And ACUTE
ACTIVE LONG TERM MENTAL CASES who's own dogs got the
same same same same PROBLEM you're askin for ADVICE.
> She will be 8 months old on 1st April.
Your dog has reached the ADOLESCENT REBELLIHOWES stage
talked abHOWET by Scott & Fuller, Bobby. They didn't
KNOW HOWE COME dogs GET like that, but they NOTED the
DEVELOPMENTAL STAGE which The Amazing Puppy Wizard has
PROVEN is CAUSED BY REPRESSION FEAR FORCE and INTIMIDATION.
> We got her two months ago from her breeder. She has not once,
> since we got her, gone to the loo outdoors.
HOWEsbreaking is INSTINCTIVE at four weeks of age, Bobby.
Only a professional trainer or breeder can train a dog to
shit in his own HOWES, Bobby. You been takin advice from
those sorts of cretins, Bobby? You're askin LIARS DOG ABUSERS
COWARDS and ACTIVE ACUTE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES
for ADVICE, Bobby.
THAT reflects POORLY on your CHARACTER.
> She seems to think the utility room is her bathroom.
HOWE COME your dog is in the "utility" room?
> We have a male springer (6yrs old) who performs
> outdoors and when she sees this she goes over and
> has a sniff, puts her nose in the air as if disgusted
> and strutts off. We live beside a busy road and
> she has gotten through the ditch once so she's been
> on aan extendable lead when taken outdoors ever since.
THAT'S irrelevent, EXXXCEPT for the FACT that you can
TRAIN your dog not to want to leave her TERRORTORY, as
ALL dogs are TERRORTORIAL CREATURES OF HABIT, Bobby:
"misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message news:
16990-3CAB1F8...@storefull-2293.public.lawson.webtv.net
I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know
she's not here with us. I really can't blame anyone
here for her loss.
I'm the one who ignored your advice. I did it because
of how you write/wrote. I was unwilling to accept the
idea that my using a shock collar could have any
bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home.
Up until I started using it my main concern had been
keeping my dogs in their own yard.
Once I started using the e-fence... well, then my
concern became how to keep them from running off for
days on end.
I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in
the anti-shock debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world
now <g A Wits End Trained dog, one who is completely
housetrained, doesn't chew up stuff, stays in the
yard, and doesn't bark all the time.
IOW a great companion and friend.
Thanks Jerry!
=====================
misty" <Momi...@webtv.net wrote in message
news:
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We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
collars.
Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want
to come back in the yard and would run for days.
The last time, Peach didn't come back home.
I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how
to train my dog.
She is now border trained. A few minutes each day
reinforces her desire to stay in the yard. She no
longer runs out into the road, I can stop her from
chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we walk
around the yard.
I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate
the e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a
regular fence then you need to train your dog.
I will never rely on an electronic collar to keep my
dog in our yard again. The price was too high:-(
~misty
From: Nevyn (greatd...@badmama.com.au)
Subject: Re: radio fence
Date: 2003-11-05 04:17:45 PST
Hi folks,
In my opinion the use of a radioshock fence is a waste
of time, effort or money. I can understand it if you a
rich snob who cares nothing about their dogs safey or
behaviours.
At work I boundary train all the dogs to the bricked
area (Four kennels with 26 cages with 1 dog in each, 1
services building and 2 catterys which is surrounded
by scrubland to the east and woodlands to the north
and a lake to the west).
This works well, because then when people buy them the
dogs are easier to boundary train to a door or fence
or yard.
However on a personal note, my two shelter mutts, who
I trained using the WITS END DOG MANUAL available at
www. doggydoright. com will not go past the back door,
or the back gate or the front gate without permission.
And it is nice, for when you are having a party, you
can leave your gates open for people, and your dogs
won't be the least concerned.
I find this better then spending your well earned
money on a piece of junk Why not use it to invest in a
horse? Or a new house? Make a nice aquarium? Build a
nursery for a child?
Save your money. Train your dog. Please. -- Thankyou,
Nevyn
Nevyn E. D. Veterinary Nurse & Animal Trainer
greatd...@badmama.com.au
"You can judge a man's heart by his treatment
of animals"
______________
Your newfHOWEND PALS call them LIARS and their posts FORGERIES, Bobby.
> We all carry biscuits and treats in our
> pockets for when she does "perform" outside,
BWEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAA!!!
ONLY a PROFESSIONAL DOG TRAINER or UNIVERSITY TRAINED BEHAVIORIST
would be so foolish as to BELIEVE you can BRIBE a dog to DO his
NORMAL NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE behaviors for a doGgamened
cookie, Bobby.
You've been LIED to and MISLED by INCOMPETENT LYING DOG ABUSING
PUNK THUG COWARDS who jerk choke shock crate and withhold bribes
attention and affection in the false hopes and EXXXPECTATIONS that
they'll someHOWE HOWEtwit the cunning of the domestic puppy dog, Bobby.
> but we've not had the chance to give them to her.
BWEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAAAAA!!!
Dogs DON'T HAVE HOWEsbreakin PROBLEMS, Bobby, they
have MISHANDLING PROBLEMS CAUSED BY PEOPLE, Bobby.
> My wife takes her out first thing in the morning, and
> three or four times throughout the day then she's out
> again twice at night.
That's IRRELEVENT, Bobby. Your dog thinks your HOWES
is his terrortory to F-HOWEL on accHOWENT of HOWE he's
been HANDLED and TRAINED, Bobby.
You can CURE this little PROBLEM NEARLY INSTANTLY if
you know HOWE, Bobby.
> She's given out to when she goes indoors
Does THAT make ANY SENSE on ANY LEVEL, Bobby???
> and is immediatly put on the lead and taken outside,
> but it seems all this is to no avail.
Duh-Oh?
> I've walked her round the gardens for over an hour and
> a half only to have her come inside and do her business
> straight away.
RIGHT... and there's NO CURE for THAT on accHOWENT
of it's MEANINGLESS. Your dog is AFRAID to relieve
hisself on leash on accHOWENT of he's not familiar
with the process, Bobby.
> Im coming to the end of my tether,
You mean, you're at your Wits' End, eh Bobby?
NO PROBLEM. The Amazing Puppy Wizard got a CURE for THAT:
"The Methods, Principles, And Philosophy Of Behavior
Never Change,
Or They'd Not Be Scientific And Would Not Obtain
Consistent, Reliable, Fast, Effective Results
For All Handler's
And All Dogs,
NEARLY INSTANTLY,
As Taught In Your FREE Copy Of The Puppy Wizard's FREE
WWW Wits' End Dog Training Method Manual,"
The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
Same same same same applies to rearing children
or successful interpresonal relationships with ALL
critters, includin SP-HOWESES, employees, and
employers.
You GET The Critter You TRAINED
A DOG Is A Dog;
As A KAT Is A KAT;
As A BIRDY Is A BIRDY;
As A CHILD IS A CHILD;
As A SP-HOWES Is a SP-HOWES.
ALL Behavior Problems Are CAUSED BY MISHANDLING
ALL Critters Only Respond In
PREDICTABLE INNATE NORMAL NATURAL
INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIVE Ways;
To Situations And Circumstances Of Their Environment
Which We Create For Them.
Damn The Descartean War of "Nature Vs Nurture."
We Teach By HOWER Words And Actions
And GET BACK What We TAUGHT.
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes
so utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest?
"With him, words play no torturing tricks...,"
--John Galsworthy.
Don't bet your dog won't tell on you...
Their behaviors reflect
HOWER words, actions and training quirks.
Jerry HOWE, The Puppy Wizard. <{} ; ~ ) >
> I've tried everything
"EVERY THING," Bobby? Ask professor SCRUFF SHAKE abHOWET THAT.
> and would appreciate any tips,
Lissen up, Bobby. You AIN'T GETTIN NO DOGGAMENED ADVICE
from the Gang Of Lying Dog Abusing Punk Thug Cowards and
ACTIVE ACUTE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL CASES you're rubbin
elbHOWES with, Bobby <{) ; ~ ) >
> advise or hints anyone can give me.
TRY THIS, Bobby:
<"Terri"@cyberhighway wrote:
> Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> He has millions of people aleady reading his
> posts and watching him extract his soggy foot
> out of his mouth! Out of these MILLIONS, I've
> only seen 2 naive childs come forward and
> actually believe in his training manual.
Robert Crim writes:
I assume that I and my wife are those two naive
childs since I freely admit to having read and, I
hope, understood enough of the manual and it's
counterparts by John Fisher and the posts of
Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it.
This naive child would like to say thank you to both
Jerry and Marilyn for putting up with a constant
barrage of really infantile crap at the hands of
supposedly adult dog lovers.
The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with
the nagging idea that if people like them had been
posting earlier, maybe we would not have had to
hold the head of a really magnificent animal in our
arms while he was given the needle and having to
hug him and wait until he gasped his last gasp.
To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a
dog into good behavior. Naive is believing that
people that hide behind fake names are more
honest than people that use their real names.
Naive is thinking that dilettante dog breeders
and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have
studied and lived by their craft for decades.
"Stupid" is believing that people do not see
kindergarten level insults for what they are. Really
stupid is believing that people like Jerry Howe and
Marilyn Rammell are going to just go away because
you people act like fools.
Why do you act like fools? I really have no idea,
and I don't really care.
> And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward
> and actually admit to buying and having success
> with his little black box.
I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day
and take it down to the Animal Shelter for their use
and testing. You would never believe the results, so
you'll never know.
> Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man
> coming by Jerry's posts deserves to get what
> is sure to be coming to him! LOL!
I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and
Longsuffering Wife and Rollei will just have to get
what we deserve, eh? As Joey (Dogman) says,
"poor Rollei.".......right.
>Terri
Yes it was, and that is sad.
Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to
listen to the box first?)
===============
> TIA
You're welcome...
> Bob
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