Macerator Pump?
Hunter Hampton
I'm thinking of getting one so I don't have to hook up and haul off
the farm to dump.
I see three possible makes...
Jabsco? Shurflo? Flojet?
They're all 12 volt.
I would only hook it up here, don't need it at campgrounds.
Where, or how, do I hook up the power to it?
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm thinking of getting one so I don't have to hook up and haul off
> the farm to dump.
>
> I see three possible makes...
>
> Jabsco? Shurflo? Flojet?
All pretty much the same.
>
> They're all 12 volt.
>
> I would only hook it up here, don't need it at campgrounds.
>
> Where, or how, do I hook up the power to it?
A simple toggle switch and a $25 lawnmower battery. I only charge mine
once a month or so.
You can mount the pump and battery on a sheet of plywood. Hose
connection leaving the pump (3/8" hose) and a short piece of 3 inch from
end of the pump to your dump connection. Black wire goes to positive
terminal. Very simple project.
LZ
>
> Hunter
jerry...@gmail.com
I open my battery box and just clamp onto the house batteries.
Hunter Hampton
>I open my battery box and just clamp onto the house batteries.
It's a long way from one to the other...... does it have long cables?
What kind of macerator do you have?
Can I run it off my Honda EU2000i generators?
Hunter
Dave Grant
"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Hunter,
I bought the Flojet last year and I really glad I did. We park the trailer
for several weeks at the sister in-laws up in WY. I used to have to hook-up
and go about a mile over to the Gros Ventre River Campgrounds and dump when
the tanks got full. Now I just hook up the pump and run a 3/4 garden hose
over to her septic tank which has a pop off lid.
I ran a 10 gauge wire from the battery compartment through the storage
compartment and then ran it along the outside of the frame to a point near
the dump pipe connector. Then I ran a ground wire from the frame to the
same point and put the two wire female connector on those wires. When I
need to use the pump, I just twist it on and plug in the plug and it takes
about 5 minutes or so to pump everything out.
You can find them on Amazon and eBay. I got mine at Camping World last
spring when they had them on sale.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>I ran a 10 gauge wire from the battery compartment through the storage
>compartment and then ran it along the outside of the frame to a point near
>the dump pipe connector. Then I ran a ground wire from the frame to the
>same point and put the two wire female connector on those wires. When I
>need to use the pump, I just twist it on and plug in the plug and it takes
>about 5 minutes or so to pump everything out.
Hi Dave,
Great information except you left out your sister-in-law's address <g>
I keep reading the directions.... isn't there an easier way? Maybe
somehow looking it to one of my Honda generators?
Hunter
Dave Grant
I don't see why you couldn't. If you have a 12v plug that will plug into
the generator and just connect the flojet supply wires to it. The flojet
comes with a supply line that can be spliced to a source and then the motor
and switch plug into that.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>
>I don't see why you couldn't. If you have a 12v plug that will plug into
>the generator and just connect the flojet supply wires to it. The flojet
>comes with a supply line that can be spliced to a source and then the motor
>and switch plug into that.
I have many skills, but this sure isn't one of them. Good info
though... the Flojet & the 3/4" hose.
Lots of them say its okay to use a 5/8" hose but I thought that seemed
small.
Thanks,
Hunter
Bob Giddings
"One of"? You finally get another 2000?
The way I hooked up mine was to run a couple of 8 AWG wires from
my converter box to the back of the refrigerator, which is right
above the dump valve.
I mounted the pump in a bit of wire rack with short legs to keep
it out of the dirt. When I need to use the pump I take off the
utility door behind the refrigerator and connect it to the wires
together there with shovel type connectors. No switch necessary.
But you could rig up a short line to the DC plug of your Honda
just as easily.
Bob
Dave Grant
The 5/8 probably would work fine. The shorter the distance of course the
better it will pump. Pump seems to grind everything up pretty well.
I found a 3/4 hose at Home Depot. The only 3/4 one they carry is a Goodyear
rubber hose and it is also the most expensive one. I think it was just over
$40.
Al Malone
$CW. Right now they have a $100 instant rebate coupon now.
Al
Bob Giddings
<dgra...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
>news:kr5it4l74l630updd...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:33:07 -0700, "Dave Grant" <dgra...@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I don't see why you couldn't. If you have a 12v plug that will plug into
>>>the generator and just connect the flojet supply wires to it. The flojet
>>>comes with a supply line that can be spliced to a source and then the
>>>motor
>>>and switch plug into that.
>>
>> I have many skills, but this sure isn't one of them. Good info
>> though... the Flojet & the 3/4" hose.
>>
>> Lots of them say its okay to use a 5/8" hose but I thought that seemed
>> small.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hunter
>
>The 5/8 probably would work fine. The shorter the distance of course the
>better it will pump. Pump seems to grind everything up pretty well.
>
>I found a 3/4 hose at Home Depot. The only 3/4 one they carry is a Goodyear
>rubber hose and it is also the most expensive one. I think it was just over
>$40.
>
I pump through 75 feet of the cheaper 5/8 inch hose with the
Flojet. Works fine.
But the first 6 feet or so is clear 1 inch vinyl hose from Home
Depot. That way I can see if it's working, how it's working, and
when it flows clear and clean.
Bob
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>
>I found a 3/4 hose at Home Depot. The only 3/4 one they carry is a Goodyear
>rubber hose and it is also the most expensive one. I think it was just over
>$40.
I have to pump over 100' so I'm looking at hoses that are almost
$100.00
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>"One of"? You finally get another 2000?>
Yep, I have a little Honda family now (c:
>
>But you could rig up a short line to the DC plug of your Honda
>just as easily.
Details please.
Hunter
Bob Giddings
Get a male DC plug to match the DC female plug in the Honda.
Connect it to the wires from the Flojet and plug it in.
Or just use the clips on the charging line to the ends of the
Flojet wires. I've been using the Flojet 8550 for many years.
Though not all that many times.
I'd make the line about 10 feet long, so I could keep the Honda
out of any spillage.
Bob
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I'd make the line about 10 feet long, so I could keep the Honda
>out of any spillage.
Spillage?
I can't do spillage here.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>After considerable study I chose the Sani-Con Box Mount, item 38249 at
>$CW. Right now they have a $100 instant rebate coupon now.
>
>Al
Hi Al,
Too pricey for me. I'll use this thing at most 4 times a year... for
that kind of money I'll hook up and pull to the campground to dump.
Hunter
Bob Giddings
You underestimate your ingenuity. I too thought it was
impossible:
http://www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings/driveway/6jun03.cfm
But I was wrong.
Bob
Paul Mann
macerator pump will require 15-20 amps. Small garden tractor battery is
probably the easy solution.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>The 12 volt output on the 2000i is only rated at 8 amps and the
>macerator pump will require 15-20 amps. Small garden tractor battery is
>probably the easy solution.
I have two 2000s and a parallel kit... is that enough?
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You underestimate your ingenuity. I too thought it was
>impossible:
>
>http://www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings/driveway/6jun03.cfm
>
>But I was wrong.
<g> I remember when that happened .....
My problem here is the trailer sits approx 15" uphill from the farm
well.
Here's the pump house & you can see my trailer.
://i40.tinypic.com/2s1atjo.jpg
Hunter
Bob Giddings
<pm...@airolink.com> wrote:
Ach, your are right. The Flojet 8550 is 16 amps.
Just use a wire directly from your converter, and power the
converter from your generator.
bill horne
Here's mine:
http://i42.tinypic.com/20aarzb.jpg
I've since put a toggle switch on it, and I power it with my portable
jumpstart battery. I use 100' of 5/8" hose, and pump slightly uphill.
Notice the short piece of clear tubing on the outlet. Like others,
that's so I can see what's happening. It works fine.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Just use a wire directly from your converter, and power the
>converter from your generator.
The converter, well the trailer, is plugged in to 30 amp service.
Hunter
Bob Giddings
All I can tell you is, lay in a supply of sand bags...
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>I've since put a toggle switch on it, and I power it with my portable
>jumpstart battery.
Ah, I have one of those somewhere around here.
Nice set up.
Hunter
Bob Giddings
Then you don't need your generator.
Dave Grant
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm thinking of getting one so I don't have to hook up and haul off
> the farm to dump.
>
> I see three possible makes...
>
> Jabsco? Shurflo? Flojet?
>
> They're all 12 volt.
>
> I would only hook it up here, don't need it at campgrounds.
>
> Where, or how, do I hook up the power to it?
>
> Hunter
Hunter
I forgot to mention that you need to check and see if your generator can
provide enough amperage for the Flojet pump. Not sure what the Flojet pump
draws, mines in storage right now and I haven't found the specs on the
internet yet. Some of Flojets pumps draw as much as 14 amps. I don't know
if your genny can handle that or not.
Also, forgot to mention that the pictures that you see of Grand Teton is
exactly what we see each day when we are parked in WY. The sister in-law
lives in Kelly, WY, about a mile east of the Gros Ventre campgrounds and the
view of Grand Teton is unbelievable. Her neighbor is Ted Kerasote, the guy
that wrote Merle's Door. It's a pretty good book about Ted and his dog
Merle and their life in Kelly WY. We met him last year and he signed his
book for my wife.
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>All I can tell you is, lay in a supply of sand bags...
They're all in Fargo.
Neon John
wrote:
>> I keep reading the directions.... isn't there an easier way? Maybe
>> somehow looking it to one of my Honda generators?
>
>I don't see why you couldn't. If you have a 12v plug that will plug into
>the generator and just connect the flojet supply wires to it. The flojet
>comes with a supply line that can be spliced to a source and then the motor
>and switch plug into that.
Just one flaw. The 12 volt output is good for 8, maybe 10 amps while
the macerator uses anywhere from 30 to 50 amps, depending on size and
load.
John
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>I forgot to mention that you need to check and see if your generator can
>provide enough amperage for the Flojet pump. Not sure what the Flojet pump
>draws, mines in storage right now and I haven't found the specs on the
>internet yet. Some of Flojets pumps draw as much as 14 amps. I don't know
>if your genny can handle that or not.>
Hi Dave,
It's already been addressed..... seems my generators are not up to the
task.
>
>Also, forgot to mention that the pictures that you see of Grand Teton is
>exactly what we see each day when we are parked in WY. The sister in-law
>lives in Kelly, WY, about a mile east of the Gros Ventre campgrounds and the
>view of Grand Teton is unbelievable. Her neighbor is Ted Kerasote, the guy
>that wrote Merle's Door. It's a pretty good book about Ted and his dog
>Merle and their life in Kelly WY. We met him last year and he signed his
>book for my wife.>
I've been to Teton NP and Jackson Hole. I think it's the most
beautiful place on earth...
I had never heard of Merle's Door so I just looked it up. It looks
like a book I need to read (c:
Hunter
bill horne
Thanks. It's simple, and I like simple - although I did unnecessarily
complicate it when I added a toggle switch.
Tom J
Hunter, read all the replies!! The pump requires more than the output
of the 12 volt plug on the generator. Your parallel hookup is only for
the 110 Volt - not the 12 volt. If you don't have a jump start, now is
the time to get one. It will run the pump, start Bruiser if the
battery goes down & air up the tires!! :-)
Tom J
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>Thanks. It's simple, and I like simple - although I did unnecessarily
>complicate it when I added a toggle switch.
What kind is it?
William Boyd
I don't think the DC circuit parallels.
My pump is a portable come in a suitcase box like a drill set.
http://www.rvpartscenter.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=35624&SID=36&DID=11&CID=256
I connect the pump to the closest large DC wiring. My pump hooks on the
sewer connection where the dump hose goes when at the dump station. I
have a 30deg clear Connector with a back flow connection so I can flush
the tank connects first. I use a 5/8 garden hose for 75 feet, three 25'
lengths.
When you run the pump motor don't run it to long it will get to hot.
--
BILL P.
&
DOG
bill horne
The toggle switch?
No, horne, you idiot, that's not what she meant.
Jabsco.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>The toggle switch?
>No, horne, you idiot, that's not what she meant.
>Jabsco.
bahahaha!! Thank you. I guess Jabsco it is.
Hunter
Ron Recer
"Tom J" <tom...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Are you sure it will Bruiser. Most diesels have two batteries. Generally
if one is down, so is the other. A single 'jump start' won't start most
diesels. Don't ask me how I know!
Ron
William Boyd
around freezing and above. When cold you have to turn the ignition on
so the filter heater and intake heaters can warm the system up. Of
course the starter does take a little more power.
jerry...@gmail.com
<airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:32:34 -0500, jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I open my battery box and just clamp onto the house batteries.
>
>It's a long way from one to the other...... does it have long cables?
No, about 6' but it is easy to splice on what you need - or pull power
closer to the dump valve.
>
>What kind of macerator do you have?
A flowjet
http://www.flojet.com/files/18555_373e_08-07.pdf
I spliced on 12' of 8 gauge wires and put clamps in the end.
>
>Can I run it off my Honda EU2000i generators?
Maybe - if it supplies 20 amps...
I have pumped 100' with 5/8" hose and the pump did fine except it was
getting pretty hot (I could still hold my hand on it, but it wasn't
comfortable) so I turned it off for a few minutes to cool.
>
>Hunter
jerry...@gmail.com
<airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:32:34 -0500, jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I open my battery box and just clamp onto the house batteries.
>
>It's a long way from one to the other...... does it have long cables?
>
>What kind of macerator do you have?
>
>Can I run it off my Honda EU2000i generators?
>
>Hunter
Here is a link to the one I have, but I seem to remember it being
considerably cheaper. But that was several years ago.
http://www.rvpartscenter.com/ProductDetail.asp?PID=35624&SID=36&DID=11&CID=256
Jerry O.
al
Al
William Boyd
Hunter Hampton
>>It's a long way from one to the other...... does it have long cables?
>No, about 6' but it is easy to splice on what you need - or pull power
>closer to the dump valve.
I have a volunteer to come hook it up for me (c:
This blonde thing really works <g>
As for the Flojet.... seems that they are all Jabscos under different
names?
>I have pumped 100' with 5/8" hose and the pump did fine except it was
>getting pretty hot (I could still hold my hand on it, but it wasn't
>comfortable) so I turned it off for a few minutes to cool.
Ah, that's good to know. I'm not sure I would have thought to see how
hot the pump is.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
jerry...@gmail.com wrote:
I found one cheaper, same model...
http://www.wholesalepumps.com/Product.cfm?DID=33&PID=462
>
>Jerry O.
Hunter Hampton
>Do you have a riding mower? with electric start?
>Al
Yes, but I have a friend, from RORT, coming over to get it set up.
I like the little board mount that bill has... will do the same.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>Are you sure it will Bruiser. Most diesels have two batteries. Generally
>if one is down, so is the other. A single 'jump start' won't start most
>diesels. Don't ask me how I know!
>
>Ron
I left the key on once, with the a/c on )c:
Noticed hours later. Got a jump start and he ran but the next day he
wouldn't start again. I got another jump start and went and bought two
new batteries.
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
> I keep reading the directions.... isn't there an easier way? Maybe
> somehow looking it to one of my Honda generators?
>
LZ
Bob Giddings
Mine sometimes gets hot, and when it does it cuts off. But if I
disconnect it for 5 minutes it starts up again and finishes the
job. I hadn't thought until now that maybe I needed a larger
hose.
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Mine sometimes gets hot, and when it does it cuts off. But if I
>disconnect it for 5 minutes it starts up again and finishes the
>job. I hadn't thought until now that maybe I needed a larger
>hose.
Ahem, I know I'll regret asking this... how big is your hose?
Hunter
Will
In view of the rash of posts on this topic, I have a question: Don't
these pumps come with written instructions that even a blond copuld
understand?
Will Sill
"Votes can be bought,
Respect can only be earned."
Lone Haranguer
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:51:02 -0700, "Dave Grant" <dgra...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I found a 3/4 hose at Home Depot. The only 3/4 one they carry is a Goodyear
>> rubber hose and it is also the most expensive one. I think it was just over
>> $40.
>
> I have to pump over 100' so I'm looking at hoses that are almost
> $100.00
>
> Hunter
Too much. At the farm I pump 225 feet through 5/8" hose. The hose is
good quality nylon cord and rubber.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see why you couldn't. If you have a 12v plug that will plug
>>> into the generator and just connect the flojet supply wires to it.
>>> The flojet comes with a supply line that can be spliced to a source
>>> and then the motor and switch plug into that.
>>
>> I have many skills, but this sure isn't one of them. Good info
>> though... the Flojet & the 3/4" hose.
>>
>> Lots of them say its okay to use a 5/8" hose but I thought that seemed
>> small.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hunter
> The 12 volt output on the 2000i is only rated at 8 amps and the
> macerator pump will require 15-20 amps. Small garden tractor battery is
> probably the easy solution.
I'm filtered so she misses all my good advice. Rather droll when you
think about it. :)
LZ
Lone Haranguer
tractor battery from day one. Charge it once a month.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:32:27 -0400, bill horne <red...@rye.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've since put a toggle switch on it, and I power it with my portable
>>> jumpstart battery.
>>
>> Ah, I have one of those somewhere around here.
>>
>> Nice set up.
>
> Thanks. It's simple, and I like simple - although I did unnecessarily
> complicate it when I added a toggle switch.
>
a compartment and always connected to the dump outlet.
I've never had a spill with the macerator.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
Even if you disconnect the dead batteries first? I've started cars and
tractors with my lawn tractor battery.
Unless it's below zero I would think a jump start would at least crank a
diesel.
LZ
William Boyd
R.J.(Bob) Evans
wrote:
Actually there's an even easier way unless the blond bimbo has
recently sold her favorite truck.
--
R.J.(Bob) Evans
(return address needs alteration to work)
http://travellingwithgeorge.blogspot.com/
Bob Giddings
I've already said. 100 feet of 5/8 inch.
Lone Haranguer
They have a built in thermal switch that shuts them down when they
overheat. I had one that shut off when it was barely warm.
I kept it for parts when I replaced it. It pays to keep the blades clean.
LZ
Hunter Hampton
<bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've already said. 100 feet of 5/8 inch.
Oh, I didn't remember that. I've been looking at 3/4" hoses.
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
Art Todesco
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm thinking of getting one so I don't have to hook up and haul off
> the farm to dump.
>
> I see three possible makes...
>
> Jabsco? Shurflo? Flojet?
>
> They're all 12 volt.
>
> I would only hook it up here, don't need it at campgrounds.
>
> Where, or how, do I hook up the power to it?
>
> Hunter
I bought the Flojet. I have only used
it, so far, to pump the gray tank. Of
course, it takes longer because of the
smaller hose. There is a 12 volt socket
in the bedroom right above the sewer
compartment (for a 12 volt TV), so it
was a no brainer to hook up the 12 volts
inside a cabinet and route it to the
sewer basement. I bought the 3/4" hose
from Menards. It is 60 or 70 feet. It
cost about $35. BTW, the Flojet came
from Dyers RV (http://www.dyersrv.com)
for $186 plus $12 shipping. I did this
all because we just moved from our home
of 36 years to a new city 700 miles
away. The new house is still under
construction. Luckily, a friend owns
and empty house adjacent to his house.
He offered me the house, however, it was
easier to park the motorhome on the
property and tether it to the house.
BTW, we dump the black tank about every
6 or so days, so I'll report back in a
few days on how that goes.
Art
Dave Grant
"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Hunter
That is exactly what I have. That's a good price too unless they charge a
lot for shipping. Can't remember exactly how much I paid last year, but
Camping World had a sale on them and we've got a store fairly close by. I
think it was $245 that I paid.
Lone Haranguer
Also check that nothing is wrapped around the blender blades. Hair will
reduce their efficiency and make the pump work harder.
LZ
bill horne
And once you did, how would know how hot is too hot? Many motors get
hot while running.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
William Boyd
when you engage the starter the intake and fuel heaters disengage on
most engines. But you must remember the average diesel engine is rather
large and does take a heavy duty starter.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>And once you did, how would know how hot is too hot? Many motors get
>hot while running.
I figger I'd ask you before too long.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
> I bought the 3/4" hose
>from Menards. It is 60 or 70 feet. It
>cost about $35. BTW, the Flojet came
>from Dyers RV (http://www.dyersrv.com)
>for $186 plus $12 shipping.
Wow, that's a great price on the Flojet. Thanks.
Unfortunately I need about 125 feet of hose I think.
Hunter
bill horne
And you've got a jumpstarter. Use it. Make the thing earn its living.
And it's simple - just hook the clamps to motor wires. No wiring to do
(except putting in an inline 20A fuse); no lawnmowers or generators to
crank up and move. This is not some complicated electrical engineering
or hydraulic problem. The only reasons I even put it on a board was to
keep it off the ground and to have a place to mount the toggle switch.
And if you want to pay for 3/4" hose, do so - but it works fine on
5/8". And didn't you say 4 times a year?
bill horne
Mine doesn't. I get it out of the shop when I need it.
> I've never had a spill with the macerator.
Me either.
bill horne
The label on mine says 16A, and requires a 20A fuse. I haven't blown
it yet.
bill horne
The easy way is a jumpstarter that you already have. Give it something
to do when it's not busy jumpstarting.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>
>The easy way is a jumpstarter that you already have. Give it something
>to do when it's not busy jumpstarting.
Thanks bill, and everyone who responded. I have it handled now, well I
have a handle on it.
Nice thread, informative and after 72 posts only one nasty name
caller.
Pretty good (c:
I appreciate all the rest of you.
Hunter
William Boyd
Lone Haranguer
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>>
>> Even if you disconnect the dead batteries first? I've started cars
>> and tractors with my lawn tractor battery.
>> Unless it's below zero I would think a jump start would at least crank
>> a diesel.
>> LZ
> It would, the big draw on a diesels battery is the heater circuits, but
> when you engage the starter the intake and fuel heaters disengage on
> most engines. But you must remember the average diesel engine is rather
> large and does take a heavy duty starter.
>
In Dec of '61 I borrowed a Russian diesel tractor from the mayor of a
small Spanish town. My car had slid into the ditch when the
shoulder crumbled during a heavy rain.
It was a wet day with temperatures in the 40s. While I cranked it, he
held burning rags soaked in diesel fuel at the air intake.
Started right up.
Maybe diesels should come with a blow torch option?
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>>> I keep reading the directions.... isn't there an easier way? Maybe
>>> somehow looking it to one of my Honda generators?
>>>
>> The easy way is a cheap lawnmower battery.
>> LZ
>
> The easy way is a jumpstarter that you already have. Give it something
> to do when it's not busy jumpstarting.
>
electric trolling motor.
LZ
bill horne
I don't know. I just hook mine up, run it until the tanks are empty,
shake out the water, and put it away. It does have a 15-minute run
cycle, but I haven't come close to that.
bill horne
I paid about 115 for my pump last year, 30 for the 100' hose, and
about 20 for the plumbing parts.
JerryD(upstateNY)
As long as she is going to be using this in one spot, can't you hook up a 12
volt transformer to the 120 volt power and run the pump off of that ?
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in
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Steve Barker
> Hi Gang,
>
> I'm thinking of getting one so I don't have to hook up and haul off
> the farm to dump.
>
> I see three possible makes...
>
>
> They're all 12 volt.
>
>
> Where, or how, do I hook up the power to it?
>
> Hunter
Lots of replies here, and i didn't read them, so sorry if this has been
said. I use the jabsco, and hook it up to my battery with a pair of
jumper cables. Used it every 2 weeks for 2 years when we lived in the
5'er whilst remodeling the house. Pumped it into my septic system via
an outside (the house) hookup. The only annoying thing about it, was it
has a thermo protection device, and if I left it laying in the sun, it
would get too hot and not run. Had to keep it shaded in the summer
whilst using it.
steve
Art Todesco
seem to have no
problems pumping it the 60 or 70 feet,
gray tank only, so far.
The only problem with this hose is that
it is vinyl. When
cold, it is very kinky! When new, it
was coiled up pretty
tight. I actually had to run hot water
through it to stretch it out. If the
sun is out, it gets warm
and soft, even though it is not black,
but gray in color. As
to the max length, the maximum lift is
probably more
important than the horizontal run. BTW,
I have, and
have used, one of the water activated
"pumps'. It uses
a 1" hose. I have pumped out my tanks
on the driveway
of the old house using 40' of PVC
electrical conduit. This
was definitely beyond the recommendation
of the manufacturer.
I was also pumping up about 3' and had
no problem. The
only reason I got the 12 volt Flojet is
because in this location
I need the whole 60' and the lift is
still about 3' or so. Also,
1" hose is pretty pricey.
Al Malone
> On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 13:33:07 -0700, "Dave Grant" <dgra...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't see why you couldn't. If you have a 12v plug that will plug into
>> the generator and just connect the flojet supply wires to it. The flojet
>> comes with a supply line that can be spliced to a source and then the motor
>> and switch plug into that.
>
> though... the Flojet & the 3/4" hose.
>
> Lots of them say its okay to use a 5/8" hose but I thought that seemed
> small.
>
> Thanks,
> Hunter
The macerator pumps are positive displacement type pump. Every rotation
of the pump produces the same volume. Using a hose diameter that is
less than the diameter of the discharge port of the pump will result in
extended run time and can cause the the pump motor to heat up and
shutdown if it has internal thermal protection. While it will work it
is not recommended by the pump manufacturers. I can dump my tanks (60
gallon black and 60 gallon gray capacity) through 20 feet of 1" hose
that came with the macerator + 75' of 3/4" garden hose, uphill about 10
feet without overheating.
Al
Matt Colie
>
> A simple toggle switch and a $25 lawnmower battery. I only charge mine
> once a month or so.
>
> You can mount the pump and battery on a sheet of plywood. Hose
> connection leaving the pump (3/8" hose) and a short piece of 3 inch from
> end of the pump to your dump connection. Black wire goes to positive
> terminal. Very simple project.
> LZ
Except I think he meant to say 3/4" hose. The macerators I have worked
with will pump through a smaller hose, but there is the high possibility
of clogging cause very high pressures that will either fail the hose
(Oh-No) or overload the pump motor (expensive).
Matt
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>> Unfortunately I need about 125 feet of hose I think.
>>
>> Hunter
>Well, they recommend a max of 50'. I
>seem to have no
>problems pumping it the 60 or 70 feet,
>gray tank only, so far.
I could hook up and simply pull the trailer forward and get within 50
feet of the sewer inlet.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
<ichase...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The only annoying thing about it, was it
>has a thermo protection device, and if I left it laying in the sun, it
>would get too hot and not run. Had to keep it shaded in the summer
>whilst using it.
In an amazing twist of good fortune, the sewer on the trailer is on
the north side (c: It's a no sun zone.
Hunter
Tom J
> "Tom J" <tom...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:SPCdnR8cSq1EtUTU...@earthlink.com...
>>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 15:50:21 -0500, Bob Giddings
>>> <bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "One of"? You finally get another 2000?>
>>>
>>> Yep, I have a little Honda family now (c:
>>>>
>>>> But you could rig up a short line to the DC plug of your Honda
>>>> just as easily.
>>>
>>> Details please.
>>>
>>> Hunter
>>
>> Hunter, read all the replies!! The pump requires more than the
>> output of the 12 volt plug on the generator. Your parallel hookup
>> is
>> only for the 110 Volt - not the 12 volt. If you don't have a jump
>> start, now is the time to get one. It will run the pump, start
>> Bruiser if the battery goes down & air up the tires!! :-)
>>
>> Tom J
>
> Are you sure it will Bruiser. Most diesels have two batteries.
> Generally if one is down, so is the other. A single 'jump start'
> won't start most diesels. Don't ask me how I know!
>
> Ron
Where Hunter travels & the time of year she travels, a good jump start
will be enough to start Bruiser right up!! I know, because I've seen
diesels started with one a couple of times. You are right, if it's
really cold and your need to run the heaters before cranking. :-(
Tom J
William Boyd
half of the fuel filter. Procedure is to bump the starter and the fuel
filter heater will heat just about a minute then you turn the ignition
back on and wait for the dash heater indicator to go out, then you crank
it up, or start over. :-)
William Boyd
Must be a very large lawnmower battery or you don't troll much. I had
one and user a gp 30 battery, course we did run trot lines.
Lone Haranguer
Pretty good. I pump 225 feet but it is slightly downhill. My
macerators all were rated as capable of only a 4' lift.
It has been very handy for pumping into vault toilets at dry camping
parks which have no dump station.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> Lone Haranguer wrote:
>>
>> A simple toggle switch and a $25 lawnmower battery. I only charge
>> mine once a month or so.
>>
>> You can mount the pump and battery on a sheet of plywood. Hose
>> connection leaving the pump (3/8" hose) and a short piece of 3 inch from
>> end of the pump to your dump connection. Black wire goes to positive
>> terminal. Very simple project.
>> LZ
> Except I think he meant to say 3/4" hose.
errr, 5/8". At the time I couldn't find a 3/4" that wasn't stiff as hell.
The hoses I bought are limber and don't kink. I think I've been using
the macerator
for at least 5 years now and no way would I go back to slinkys.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
Unless the sewer inlet is more than a couple of feet higher than your
tank, this is not necessary.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
LZ
Lone Haranguer
sneaking up on weed beds I want to fish.
I don't do much trolling. Casting is my game. I like to sneak up on
weed beds and cast spinner baits to the edges.
Usually very productive for both bass and northern pike.
LZ
Bob Giddings
Don't. Spend the money on one inch hose.
I used to have it shut down on me at 75 feet of 1/2 inch hose.
Then it burnt up. They replaced the pump under warranty, I went
to 75 feet of 5/8 inch hose, and have had no trouble.
At 125 feet with a Jabsco 8550, you need 1 inch hose. You are
stretching the capabilities of the pump. Get 3 50 footers, you
can use them elsewhere on the farm for irrigation, when not
pumping.
And that's the REST of the story....
Bob
Lone Haranguer
You could put one of those blue plastic ice packs on it.
LZ
al
plug in version for permanent use? Just curious?
Al
Hunter Hampton
>Hi! Going back to the electrical stuff. Does anyone make a 110 volt
>plug in version for permanent use? Just curious?
>Al
Yes, but they start at around $500.00 for electric.
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
Yeah but they aren't cheap. I think the extra power would be handy and
my sewer compartment is only a couple of steps from my generator
start switch. So far the 12 volt with a lawnmower battery has served me
well.
LZ
William Boyd
for. Like to trot line for catfish