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James Harris

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Sep 28, 2011, 2:16:15 PM9/28/11
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With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
it seems this doesn't apply to many.

In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
sort?

Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
risks of being the target of crime?

Sorry for all the questions. Am considering a first fly drive vacation
in Florida and haven't found any good "beginners' guide" on the web.

James

Tom J

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Sep 28, 2011, 3:19:40 PM9/28/11
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James Harris wrote:
> With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
> Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
> it seems this doesn't apply to many.

Local ordinances ban parking in most Wall-Mart parking lots in Florida

>
> In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
> signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
> sort?

You would be lucky if you just parked anywhere there was not a no parking
sign in most states and especially Florida.

We have found most Home Depot & Lowes do not have "no overnight parking"
signs on their parking lots & many larger truck stops have a place for RVs
to park away from the trucks. If you do find a Wal-Mart without no parking
signs be courteous and go inside to the service desk and ask if it's OK. Do
the same at Home Depot and Lowes if it's during business hours And in all
cases park on the far fringes of the parking lots!!

>
> Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
> risks of being the target of crime?

If you are worried about parking over night in any state, parking outside an
RV park is not for you!!

>
> Sorry for all the questions. Am considering a first fly drive vacation
> in Florida and haven't found any good "beginners' guide" on the web.
>
> James

If you are flying in and renting an RV you may find it cheaper to rent an
auto and stay in motels.

Tom J

Tom J


Mike Hendrix at dot

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Sep 28, 2011, 4:54:28 PM9/28/11
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I am a Florida resident and can help but your questions are vague to
say the least.

I have no idea what a fly drive vacation in Florida is...... but an
airplane in a Wally World parking lot will probably create a
commotion. VBG

Here is a rule of thumb: Florida is a tourist state. Some cities are
more tourist oriented than others as you might expect. Overnight
parking for free in and around Kissimmee (Disney World) will be more
difficult than non-tourist cities. Generally speaking when you are
more than 20-miles from the coast finding a truck stop or Big Box
Store that allow overnighting is easy enough. However, destinations
like Destin, Panama City Beach, Sarasota, Ft Myers, Naples etc., have
to prohibit overnighting in Big Box Stores. If they didn't there
would be no parking space for customers.

Most places that "look" safe should be safe.

Outside Miami, on the Tamiami Trail, is an Indian Casino that allows
overnight camping. There are also free camping areas in Everglades
National Park or on the outskirts of Everglades National Park.

Just do not get the idea that you are going to drive to a popular
beach and overnight in the parking lot. It ain't going to happen.

With that said there are snowbirds that spend every day on the beach
in their RV then disappear to special overnighting sites for their
entire stay in Florida each winter. We see some of them year after
year. But they are the "pros".


mike
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Pensacola, FL
http://www.travellogs.us/

LonVanOstran

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Sep 28, 2011, 5:29:38 PM9/28/11
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Go to the nearest Moose Lodge and join. Then go here:
<http://www.mooseintl.org/public/MooseSearch.aspx>
or go there first.

Do a search for Florida, then check out all of the lodges that have
camping. You'll get some form of electricity at those with camping. At
most of the others, you can stay in the parking lot for free.

IMHO, that's the best way to stay the way you want to in Florida.
Yes, you can stay at a lot of Wal Marts, but check with the manager when
you get there. That makes it sort of hard to plan.

Lon

richard

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Sep 28, 2011, 6:11:25 PM9/28/11
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The laws for overnight parking are probably governed by city ordinances.
Beach parking is a definite no no for an RV.
As you'll need a tow truck to get you off the beach.
Near the beaches, most of the lots are privately owned.
Public parking near a beach, is generally too small for an RV.
I have seen public parking marked and unmarked.
It's probably wise to contact the city police department and ask them about
overnight parking.

Now if you really want safe, free, overnight parking, try any rest area on
the interstate. They'll even provide armed security for you.

Plenty of truckstops in the state too. But there are ten trucks looking to
park for every available space. And those fill up early.

Campgrounds in florida are plentiful. Charging 30 to 100 dollars per night.
Disneyland charges around 65 to 80 a night.
Going to key west? $100 a night easily.
Including the motels.


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Travelin' Man

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Sep 29, 2011, 7:38:11 AM9/29/11
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"James Harris" <james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
> Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
> it seems this doesn't apply to many.

We stop at Flying-Js on the way down every winter. Not all Walmarts allow
overnight parking.

>
> In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
> signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
> sort?

Look for truck stops.

>
> Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
> risks of being the target of crime?

Truck stops are safer than Walmart parking lots. Some are real lonely at
night.

>
> Sorry for all the questions. Am considering a first fly drive vacation
> in Florida and haven't found any good "beginners' guide" on the web.
>
> James

Try www.rv.net and www.rvusa.com . Both are good sites and you'll get
plenty of help there.


Travelin' Man

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Sep 29, 2011, 7:43:32 AM9/29/11
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"richard" <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Those we stopped at had RV parking on one side. Plenty of space for RVs.
Quiet also.

LonVanOstran

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Sep 29, 2011, 8:18:56 AM9/29/11
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I agree with the Flying J advice. I disagree with the truck stop advice.
Truckers are required by law to get off the road after a certain number
of hours. They have a real problem finding a place to do that, and truck
stops exist for that very reason. Surely we RVers can do better than to
be in their way, and surely there can be a safer and quieter place for
us than truck stops. Truckers who are forced to find other places to
stay are denied the option to shower and get a couple of good meals
before they get back on the road.

Lon, who avoids over-nighting at truck stops like the plague.

Ron

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Sep 29, 2011, 9:09:29 AM9/29/11
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"LonVanOstran" wrote in message news:j61nni$los$1...@dont-email.me...
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Based on what we saw on our way home from MT last week, RVers can park in
the truck parking section of Flying-J's without bothering any truckers. We
have never see their truck parking areas emptier. We noticed this at
Billings, MT, Casper, WY, Cheyenne, WY, North Platte, NE and Salina, KS.

We were not surprised that RV traffic was down at the Flying-J's since it
was the third week of September, but we were surprised at how little truck
traffic we saw compared to what it has been in prior years. Closing their
restaurants and going up a few cents per gallon on fuel apparently wasn't
popular with the truckers that run along our route.

Ron
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MR

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Sep 29, 2011, 10:24:53 AM9/29/11
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Didn't Flying J and some of the others change owners?
MR

Mike Hendrix at dot

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Sep 29, 2011, 10:38:18 AM9/29/11
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:18:56 -0400, LonVanOstran
<Lvano...@gmail.com> wrote:


>
>
>I agree with the Flying J advice. I disagree with the truck stop advice.
>Truckers are required by law to get off the road after a certain number
>of hours. They have a real problem finding a place to do that, and truck
>stops exist for that very reason. Surely we RVers can do better than to
>be in their way, and surely there can be a safer and quieter place for
>us than truck stops. Truckers who are forced to find other places to
>stay are denied the option to shower and get a couple of good meals
>before they get back on the road.
>
>Lon, who avoids over-nighting at truck stops like the plague.
--------------------------------------

Mike avoids Flying J like the plague. In my opinion they are about
the worst place for me and my motorhome.

However, I do not overnight in Flying J's or any other Truck Stop. We
prefer Wally World or other big box store.

Owen McKenzie

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Sep 29, 2011, 11:26:47 AM9/29/11
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On 9/29/2011 10:24 AM, MR wrote:
> Didn't Flying J and some of the others change owners?
> MR

They are now owned by Pilot.

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Posting from Hartwell, GA

As a problem solving technique its main virtue was consistency; it
didn't work but at least it kept on not working, so you knew where you
stood.

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Hunter Hampton

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Sep 29, 2011, 11:31:28 AM9/29/11
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:24:53 -0400, MR <mcr...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Didn't Flying J and some of the others change owners?
>MR

Pilot bought them and the prices went way up.

Hunter

richard

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Sep 29, 2011, 12:20:24 PM9/29/11
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Yes. The Flying J chain was bought out by the Busam brothers who own the
Pilot truckstops.
Although the name will remain as will their look.

MR

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Sep 29, 2011, 2:31:54 PM9/29/11
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:26:47 -0400, Owen McKenzie
<jomck...@escapees.com> wrote:

> On 9/29/2011 10:24 AM, MR wrote:
>> Didn't Flying J and some of the others change owners?
>> MR
>
> They are now owned by Pilot.

I used to stop in FJ's, but never again since early this year. This
particular FJ would not take the credit card at the pump and you had to go
to the counter and get in line with a few folks buying stuff and
truckers. Was told that was std FJ policy. Used to dump free there
also....not anymore. Was to much of a hassle. Never been to another one
since and don't miss it. Their prices are higher also.
I don't go to Pilot either.
MR

LonVanOstran

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Sep 29, 2011, 4:16:37 PM9/29/11
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Ron wrote:
>
> I agree with the Flying J advice. I disagree with the truck stop advice.
> Truckers are required by law to get off the road after a certain number
> of hours. They have a real problem finding a place to do that, and truck
> stops exist for that very reason. Surely we RVers can do better than to
> be in their way, and surely there can be a safer and quieter place for
> us than truck stops. Truckers who are forced to find other places to
> stay are denied the option to shower and get a couple of good meals
> before they get back on the road.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Based on what we saw on our way home from MT last week, RVers can park
> in the truck parking section of Flying-J's without bothering any
> truckers. We have never see their truck parking areas emptier. We
> noticed this at Billings, MT, Casper, WY, Cheyenne, WY, North Platte, NE
> and Salina, KS.
>
> We were not surprised that RV traffic was down at the Flying-J's since
> it was the third week of September, but we were surprised at how little
> truck traffic we saw compared to what it has been in prior years.
> Closing their restaurants and going up a few cents per gallon on fuel
> apparently wasn't popular with the truckers that run along our route.
>
> Ron


That's why I agreed with the Flying J advice. <g>

Lon

LonVanOstran

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Sep 29, 2011, 4:18:15 PM9/29/11
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MR wrote:
> Didn't Flying J and some of the others change owners?
> MR

These days most of them have. But Flying J is still Flying J, no matter
who owns it. The biggest change I've seen is that they charge for the
dump station now, and prices are a little higher.

Lon

LonVanOstran

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Sep 29, 2011, 4:21:26 PM9/29/11
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MR wrote:
> I used to stop in FJ's, but never again since early this year. This
> particular FJ would not take the credit card at the pump and you had to
> go to the counter and get in line with a few folks buying stuff and
> truckers. Was told that was std FJ policy. Used to dump free there
> also....not anymore. Was to much of a hassle. Never been to another
> one since and don't miss it. Their prices are higher also.
> I don't go to Pilot either.


We've been to Flying J's all over the eastern half of the country this
year, and have found no such problem. If anything, service seems faster
if you go inside to buy stuff. Paying $5 for a dumps seems like a fair
deal to me. $10 if you don't buy fuel also seems fair. Not sure what
Credit card you were using, but the pumps did just fine with our Visa
card, and still accepted our Flying J card for the penny discount.

Lon

Ron

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Sep 29, 2011, 5:38:34 PM9/29/11
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"LonVanOstran" wrote in message news:j62jq8$p5r$3...@dont-email.me...
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They also closed all their restaurants. We have seen Denny's, Subway, a
casino in a MT FJ and no restaurant at all a couple.

Ron
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Lon


Ron

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Sep 29, 2011, 5:44:31 PM9/29/11
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"LonVanOstran" wrote in message news:j62k07$sta$1...@dont-email.me...
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We have found the same as you have Lon. However, there is one FJ we use
that only has diesel in the truck area and credit cards won't work at the
truck pumps.

As far as RVs dumping at FJ, I have seen people make real messes because
their sewer hose wasn't long enough or because they were too lazy hook
things up properly. Black water one the pavement around the pumps is a real
mess!

Ron
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Lon


Travelin' Man

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Sep 30, 2011, 7:38:09 AM9/30/11
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"LonVanOstran" <Lvano...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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They have a section for RVs. The truckers don't use that side of the
building so RVs aren't in their way. You're not denying them anything.

LonVanOstran

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Sep 30, 2011, 12:16:03 PM9/30/11
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Who is "they", and how can you apply it universally?

Lon

JohnnyYooper

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Sep 30, 2011, 1:57:51 PM9/30/11
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On Sep 28, 2:16 pm, James Harris <james.harri...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
> Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
> it seems this doesn't apply to many.
>
> In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
> signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
> sort?
>
> Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
> risks of being the target of crime?
>

i spent 3 months last winter driving all over florida in my rv playing
golf by day and staying in places like walmart every night. i never
got hassled.
(search for my "winter golf trip" reports for all the exciting action!
ha ha). i stayed mostly at walmarts but also a lot of 24 hour places
like starbucks, and denny's, even mcdonalds.etc. i loved starbucks
because of the great internet access.

contrary to popular advice, i learned one thing. going into a walmart
and asking for permission created a problem. twice i tried that, and
the girl basically said "officially, i have to tell you its against
city ordinance for us to allow you to park in our lot for the night.
BUT,every night we have an rv or two out there, and nobody bothers
them. so, no, we dont allow over night parking (wink, wink)." i
parked there and didnt have a problem. i also talked to a couple of
the parking lot security guards about it and got the same story. even
tho there were "no over night parking" signs, the security guard said
he never hassles anybody. i think its mostly a legal thing, nobody
really give a s**t.
now, having said all that.. i do agree its probably less likely to
be hassled in the interior of the state compared to the popular
tourist beaches, or even the disney area.

here is a sight that was somewhat useful. a list of truckstops and
other places that allow overnighting.

http://www.findfuelstops.com/truck-stop-in-fl

finding a free rv dump station wasnt so easy tho. flying j was
charging $10. one koa i stopped at wanted $45....lol.

this winter i'm headed out west. i heard that van horn, texas is rv
unfriendly for free over night parking.






Max

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Sep 30, 2011, 3:30:01 PM9/30/11
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"JohnnyYooper" <johnny...@gmail.com> wrote


http://www.findfuelstops.com/truck-stop-in-fl

finding a free rv dump station wasnt so easy tho. flying j was
charging $10. one koa i stopped at wanted $45....lol.

this winter i'm headed out west. i heard that van horn, texas is rv
unfriendly for free over night parking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Van Horn, Texas is unfriendly.............period.
We stopped there sometime ago..............even stayed at an RV park.
When we registered we were told, "Just go park in any space that's empty."
The mosquitoes nearly ate us alive.
Memorable place. Worse than Dalhart. <G>

Max

Hunter Hampton

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Sep 30, 2011, 3:36:40 PM9/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 13:30:01 -0600, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

>
>Van Horn, Texas is unfriendly.............period.
>We stopped there sometime ago..............even stayed at an RV park.
>When we registered we were told, "Just go park in any space that's empty."
>The mosquitoes nearly ate us alive.
>Memorable place. Worse than Dalhart. <G>

Ouch, at least there are no skeeters in Dalhart, the wind blew them
all to Van Horn. :D

hunter

Lone Haranguer

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Sep 30, 2011, 5:13:04 PM9/30/11
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Where would mosquitoes hatch in Van Horn? I've been in the area quite often
and don't recall ever seeing a mosquito. My log says the RV park on main st.
charged $13 a night the last time we stopped. I don't expect a lot for that
price.
LZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

bill horne

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Sep 30, 2011, 5:49:31 PM9/30/11
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Max wrote:
> "JohnnyYooper" <johnny...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> http://www.findfuelstops.com/truck-stop-in-fl
>
> finding a free rv dump station wasnt so easy tho. flying j was
> charging $10. one koa i stopped at wanted $45....lol.
>
> this winter i'm headed out west. i heard that van horn, texas is rv
> unfriendly for free over night parking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Van Horn, Texas is unfriendly.............period.
> We stopped there sometime ago..............even stayed at an RV park.
> When we registered we were told, "Just go park in any space that's
> empty."

That's the way I like it - I prefer to cruise the CG and find my own spot.

> The mosquitoes nearly ate us alive.
> Memorable place. Worse than Dalhart. <G>


--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Dean

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Sep 30, 2011, 8:54:32 PM9/30/11
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Why is it people are so insistent on FREE? I have no qualms about
paying someone to allow me to dump my shit into their facilities.
After all, they have to pay for the facility. As to free
overnighting, ain't never done it and likely never will. But that's
just me.

--

Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!
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Hunter Hampton

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Sep 30, 2011, 9:25:41 PM9/30/11
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 17:49:31 -0400, bill horne <red...@rye.net>
wrote:

>That's the way I like it - I prefer to cruise the CG and find my own spot.

Me too.

You stay in campgrounds?

Hunter

bill horne

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Oct 1, 2011, 12:55:03 AM10/1/11
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When I have to.

K Miller

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Oct 1, 2011, 1:38:12 AM10/1/11
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"bill horne" <red...@rye.net> wrote in message
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> That's the way I like it - I prefer to cruise the CG and find my own
> spot.

What looks like a good spot when one pulls in may turn out to be not so good
later on. Say when Joe 48 pack and his thirsty boombox loving friends pull
in next door. Or the crick rises:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnFH-8iS6UE


Mike Hendrix at dot

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Oct 1, 2011, 2:02:02 AM10/1/11
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:57:03 -0400, stan....@hotmail.com wrote:

>>On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:38:18 -0500, Mike Hendrix <mike (at) travellogs (dot) us> wrote:
>
>>Mike avoids Flying J like the plague. In my opinion they are about
>>the worst place for me and my motorhome.
>>
>>However, I do not overnight in Flying J's or any other Truck Stop. We
>>prefer Wally World or other big box store.
>>
>>mike
>
>Well . . . okay. If you are talking about Flying J Florida, then I would agree. But in mid winter .
>. . i.e. when you are travelling through a blizzard through Ohio on your way to the sunny south,
>Flying J RV overnight factilities are a welcome refuge!
>
>Never stayed at a Flying J in Florida, but we have enjoyed many an evening at Flying Js, all across
>the Continent.
>
>The most recent Flying J here at Napanee, Ontario, sports a full 70 sites set aside for RVs!
-----------------------------
Stan, as long as your RV has wheels the best policy to head for areas
with PALM trees before the snow flies.

Even if I ever got caught up north ....... I would prefer a Wally
World over a Flying J or any other "truck stop". I would certainly
stay in a truck stop but if a big box parking lot was available I
would stay there first.

bill horne

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Oct 1, 2011, 2:38:51 AM10/1/11
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True - but Joe may park elsewhere, and the crick might not rise. In my
40 years of picking, Joe only showed up once, and the crick never
rose. When Joe showed up, I moved.

Janet Wilder

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On 9/29/2011 7:18 AM, LonVanOstran wrote:
> Travelin' Man wrote:
>>
>> "James Harris" <james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:13cecfc3-b5e3-4f90...@d17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>>> With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
>>> Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
>>> it seems this doesn't apply to many.
>>
>> We stop at Flying-Js on the way down every winter. Not all Walmarts
>> allow overnight parking.
>>
>>>
>>> In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
>>> signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
>>> sort?
>>
>> Look for truck stops.
>>
>>>
>>> Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
>>> risks of being the target of crime?
>>
>> Truck stops are safer than Walmart parking lots. Some are real lonely at
>> night.
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for all the questions. Am considering a first fly drive vacation
>>> in Florida and haven't found any good "beginners' guide" on the web.
>>>
>>> James
>>
>> Try www.rv.net and www.rvusa.com . Both are good sites and you'll get
>> plenty of help there.
>>
>>
>
>
> I agree with the Flying J advice. I disagree with the truck stop advice.
> Truckers are required by law to get off the road after a certain number
> of hours. They have a real problem finding a place to do that, and truck
> stops exist for that very reason. Surely we RVers can do better than to
> be in their way, and surely there can be a safer and quieter place for
> us than truck stops. Truckers who are forced to find other places to
> stay are denied the option to shower and get a couple of good meals
> before they get back on the road.
>
> Lon, who avoids over-nighting at truck stops like the plague.

As a former over-the-road tractor-trailer driver, I concur with Lon.

Unless the truck stop has specific RV sites, like some Flying J's,
taking a slot that accommodates an 18 wheeler is denying the safety of a
professional driver. Even if it looks like there are "plenty of free
slots" and the manager gives you permission, you have no way of knowing
at 10 or 11 PM how many drivers will be out of hours at 2 or 3 AM and
will look for a slot and not be able to find one.

We stayed at a Flying J in Missouri in August that had no RV slots, but
we have such a small RV that we just parked it in a regular parking spot
near the Denny's and slept for a few hours. We ate breakfast at the
Denny's as a "thank you"

--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.

Janet Wilder

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Oct 1, 2011, 3:04:50 PM10/1/11
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On 9/29/2011 9:24 AM, MR wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:09:29 -0400, Ron <RonR...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "LonVanOstran" wrote in message news:j61nni$los$1...@dont-email.me...
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Based on what we saw on our way home from MT last week, RVers can park
>> in the truck parking section of Flying-J's without bothering any
>> truckers. We have never see their truck parking areas emptier. We
>> noticed this at Billings, MT, Casper, WY, Cheyenne, WY, North Platte,
>> NE and Salina, KS.
>>
>> We were not surprised that RV traffic was down at the Flying-J's since
>> it was the third week of September, but we were surprised at how
>> little truck traffic we saw compared to what it has been in prior
>> years. Closing their restaurants and going up a few cents per gallon
>> on fuel apparently wasn't popular with the truckers that run along our
>> route.
>>
>> Ron
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>>
>> Lon, who avoids over-nighting at truck stops like the plague.
>
> Didn't Flying J and some of the others change owners?
> MR

I believe Pilot bought Flying J, but they kept the Flying J brand

Tom J

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Oct 15, 2011, 10:04:34 PM10/15/11
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Ron wrote:

>
> We've been to Flying J's all over the eastern half of the country this
> year, and have found no such problem. If anything, service seems
> faster if you go inside to buy stuff. Paying $5 for a dumps seems like a
> fair
> deal to me. $10 if you don't buy fuel also seems fair. Not sure what
> Credit card you were using, but the pumps did just fine with our Visa
> card, and still accepted our Flying J card for the penny discount.

We have a new Pilot/Flying J "Frequent Fueler Advantage" card and we are
getting 2 cents discount at the pump. That said, we are buying way less
from them because we buy where it's cheapest and in most locations that are
higher even with the discount.

We filled up yesterday at $3.11 in Alabama where no one can give discounts
and 3 weeks ago we filled up for $2.63 in Georgia taking advantage of other
discounts.

Tom J
who has RV'd 12,000 miles in the past 12 months


James Harris

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Nov 11, 2011, 4:24:12 PM11/11/11
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On Sep 28, 8:54 pm, Mike Hendrix <mike (at) travellogs (dot) us>
wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:16:15 -0700 (PDT), James Harris
>
>
>
> <james.harri...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
> >Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
> >it seems this doesn't apply to many.
>
> >In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
> >signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
> >sort?
>
> >Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
> >risks of being the target of crime?
>
> >Sorry for all the questions. Am considering a first fly drive vacation
> >in Florida and haven't found any good "beginners' guide" on the web.

...

> I am a Florida resident and can help but your questions are vague to
> say the least.

Sorry if they are. I didn't think they were vague. People seem to have
understood.

By the way, although I haven't replied up until now I have read all
the responses and much appreciate the help.

> I have no idea what a fly drive vacation in Florida is...... but an
> airplane in a Wally World parking lot will probably create a
> commotion.  VBG

:-) Fly-drive is maybe what we hear it called in the UK. It means a
holiday ... er, vacation, ... where one books a flight and hires ...
er, rents, ... a vehicle as part of the booking. Confusing this common
language we are both supposed to speak, isn't it!

> Here is a rule of thumb:  Florida is a tourist state.  Some cities are
> more tourist oriented than others as you might expect.  Overnight
> parking for free in and around Kissimmee (Disney World) will be more
> difficult than non-tourist cities.  Generally speaking when you are
> more than 20-miles from the coast finding a truck stop or Big Box
> Store that allow overnighting  is easy enough.  However, destinations
> like Destin, Panama City Beach, Sarasota, Ft Myers, Naples etc., have
> to prohibit overnighting in Big Box Stores.  If they didn't there
> would be no parking space for customers.
>
> Most places that "look" safe should be safe.
>
> Outside Miami, on the Tamiami Trail, is an Indian Casino that allows
> overnight camping.  There are also free camping areas in Everglades
> National Park or on the outskirts of Everglades National Park.
>
> Just do not get the idea that you are going to drive to a popular
> beach and overnight in the parking lot.  It ain't going to happen.
>
> With that said there are snowbirds that spend every day on the beach
> in their RV then disappear to special overnighting sites for their
> entire stay in Florida each winter.  We see some of them year after
> year.  But they are the "pros".

Again, thanks for all the advice. Based on what everyone has said I've
ended up with, I think, a better understanding of the situation in the
US. In the UK it is normal to park a car or other vehicle on the
street. I was thinking of something similar in Florida. I get the
impression from what people have said that this is wrong; private
parking seems to be generally off-street in private driveways with
"public" parking being in parking lots. I guess too that these places
are not really public but are all owned by someone. Anywhere close? If
so then it makes sense that one has to find an approved place to park
rather than just an empty piece of road where parking is allowed.

A very different concept from what I was thinking of.

James

Mike Hendrix at dot

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On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:24:12 -0800 (PST), James Harris
<james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote:


>
>Again, thanks for all the advice. Based on what everyone has said I've
>ended up with, I think, a better understanding of the situation in the
>US. In the UK it is normal to park a car or other vehicle on the
>street. I was thinking of something similar in Florida.

Some Americans/Floridians do park on the street but the majority park
in garages, carports, driveways etc., on private property.

Also keep in mind that you asked about RV's not automobiles. Typical
RV's run from 30' to 45' in length and most have slides. While an
overnight automobile may be overlooked a 35' RV will most likely
attract attention.



>I get the
>impression from what people have said that this is wrong; private
>parking seems to be generally off-street in private driveways with
>"public" parking being in parking lots.


That is probably an accurate statement.



> I guess too that these places
>are not really public but are all owned by someone.

Big box store parking lots are owned by the Big Box store thus they
control parking.

However, city/county ordinances (laws) can put additional restrictions
on parking. Some cities have ordinances that do not allow overnight
parking in big box store parking lots or any place that is not a
"campground".


>Anywhere close? If
>so then it makes sense that one has to find an approved place to park
>rather than just an empty piece of road where parking is allowed.

While finding a place to "stealth-camp" in Florida is possible. It
certainly is not as easy as in other places.

Keep asking your questions until you understand. This is a pretty
good bunch of folks who will take the time to answer.

By the way..... there are several on this list that have actually
spent one or more winters in Florida pretty much doing what you are
asking about.

You have to understand also that Florida is a winter destination for
RV'ers. RV-parks in Florida tend to be FULL during the winter. At
the same time there are lots of folks, such as yourself, that would
like to get by without paying a campground fee every night. So there
are also pressures on "available" spots to camp for FREE, if you get
my drift.

Glory2...@yahoo.com

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I normally travel at night. The best time to travel is between 11 pm and 5 am, when the truck drivers pull over for the night. I see more truck drivers pull over at rest stops than at truck stops. If there is no room at truck stops, they are parked along the side of expressway.

I would normally rest at truck stops to sleep a few hours. There is plenty of room and signs designating truck drivers entrances are.

stpen...@gmail.com

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On Thursday, September 29, 2011 at 8:18:56 AM UTC-4, Lon VanOstran wrote:
> Travelin' Man wrote:
> >
> > "James Harris" <james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> > news:13cecfc3-b5e3-4f90...@d17g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
> >> With an RV is it easy to find a place to stop for the night in
> >> Florida? I have read about Walmart allowing parking at some stores but
> >> it seems this doesn't apply to many.
> >
> > We stop at Flying-Js on the way down every winter. Not all Walmarts
> > allow overnight parking.
> >
> >>
> >> In Florida is it OK to park anywhere as long as "no overnight parking"
> >> signs are not displayed? Or would I have to find a campsite of some
> >> sort?
> >
> > Look for truck stops.
> >
> >>
> >> Finally, is it generally safe to stop the RV overnight or are there
> >> risks of being the target of crime?
> >
> > Truck stops are safer than Walmart parking lots. Some are real lonely at
> > night.
> >
> >>
> >> Sorry for all the questions. Am considering a first fly drive vacation
> >> in Florida and haven't found any good "beginners' guide" on the web.
> >>
> >> James
> >
> > Try www.rv.net and www.rvusa.com . Both are good sites and you'll get
> > plenty of help there.
> >
> >
>
>
> I agree with the Flying J advice. I disagree with the truck stop advice.
> Truckers are required by law to get off the road after a certain number
> of hours. They have a real problem finding a place to do that, and truck
> stops exist for that very reason. Surely we RVers can do better than to
> be in their way, and surely there can be a safer and quieter place for
> us than truck stops. Truckers who are forced to find other places to
> stay are denied the option to shower and get a couple of good meals
> before they get back on the road.
>
> Lon, who avoids over-nighting at truck stops like the plague.

If you have a Class C or a Class B that will fit into a single car parking space, then you're NOT going to have a problem in any truck stop. If you have one of those converted VanHool or a Prevost buses (Class A) and you have to park where the trucks are, then hey, it's your right to do so. If trucks could fit into full hook-up RV sites for a night or until they secured a load from their dispatcher, you don't think they would???

Neon John

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:38:09 -0700 (PDT), stpen...@gmail.com wrote:


>
>If you have a Class C or a Class B that will fit into a single car parking space, then you're NOT going to have a problem in any truck stop. If you have one of those converted VanHool or a Prevost buses (Class A) and you have to park where the trucks are, then hey, it's your right to do so. If trucks could fit into full hook-up RV sites for a night or until they secured a load from their dispatcher, you don't think they would???

After I retired, I spent a couple of years driving OTR. I have watched
more than once where a tired and angry trucker pushed an RV out of a
parking spot. RV had coming. I watched one "coach" get pushed out
into the travel lane, turned sideways and then pushed off to the side
so other trucks could pass.

If you don't get pushed, at the minimum, you're going to get damaged.
You know, the adjacent truck pulling out and cutting it a little
tight, taking the front end off your rig.

Moral of the story: Keep yer ass out of truck stops!

John
John DeArmond
http://www.neon-john.com
http://www.tnduction.com
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
See website for email address

George Anthony

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Oct 26, 2019, 8:55:48 PM10/26/19
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Bull shit! They have no more right to to those spots than the RVs. And if
one did that to me he would have at best eighteen flats to repair. At worst
a possible jail term. You can’t just go around maliciously damaging
personal property. Many of the truck stops are called travel centers for a
reason. If they didn’t want RVs there they would say so.

Furthermore, what if I damaged a tractor parked in an RV space? It’s
assholes like you that give truckers a bad name.

Having said that I have not yet had the need or desire to park in those
noisy, whore infested places.

Neon John

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Oct 27, 2019, 1:56:05 PM10/27/19
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On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 00:55:43 +0000 (UTC), George Anthony
<gant...@gmail.org> wrote:


>Bull shit! They have no more right to to those spots than the RVs. And if
>one did that to me he would have at best eighteen flats to repair. At worst
>a possible jail term. You can’t just go around maliciously damaging
>personal property. Many of the truck stops are called travel centers for a
>reason. If they didn’t want RVs there they would say so

Brave boy, sitting there behind your keyboard. Why don't you go out on
the road and demonstrate what "rights" you think you have. As far as
flats or other vandalism, I bet you're not strong enough to push a
knife into a truck tire. If you happened to be able to, The trucker,
tire thumper in hand (or more often these days a pistol) will educate
you on the virtues of staying away from trucks and their parking.

As far as rights, you have none on private property. You do only what
the truck stop allows. As I ended my short "career" I saw more and
more truck stops with signs at the entrance of the truck parking
saying "Trucks only".

>
>Furthermore, what if I damaged a tractor parked in an RV space.

Reference the tire thumper. Remember that most truck drivers have
their CBs on and they look out for each other. You might just find
yourself receiving an education.

> It’s
>assholes like you that give truckers a bad name.

Asshole for relating what I've observed? Figures, coming from you.
Kind of a mirror thing, don't'cha'know.

John


>
>Having said that I have not yet had the need or desire to park in those
>noisy, whore infested places.

And you know they're whore-infested how? Hmmmm.

George Anthony

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Let me be on record that firstly it pains me greatly having to agree with you. However when you deal with Neon your dealing with entirely different Karma, James Bond’s live in comparison could only be described as dullsville.

What’s dumber than a Republican – Somebody that watches Fox News?

MAGA - Make America Gag Again


no_e...@invalid.invalid

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Oct 28, 2019, 7:55:20 AM10/28/19
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First, you have no idea what I’m capable of. Second, private property or
not, malicious property damage is against the law regardless of where it
occurs. Third, do truck stops actually allow truckers to damage the
property of others? You talk a good story but my guess is you are the one
hiding behind the keyboard and are blinded by your neon lights. As to whore
infested, I have a brother who is or rather was, a truck driver (who
wouldn’t even consider doing what you advocate). I get a lot of interesting
stories from him.

By the way, please cite verifiable examples of truckers pushing an RV out
of a parking space.

--
rbrud...@iminsane.com
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