OT: Ft. Hood Shooting
Chuck Norris
talking about some GD conference when he should be informing the
American public about the situation and offering condolences to the
families of those murdered by the perp(s).
Un fucking believeable His actions are beyond comprehension. He
should eat shit and die.
What an asshole!
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From makers to takers. Obamanomics!
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Carl A. in FL
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>I cannot believe what I am seeing/hearing. Some MF SOB is on TV
> talking about some GD conference when he should be informing the
> American public about the situation and offering condolences to the
> families of those murdered by the perp(s).
>
> Un fucking believeable His actions are beyond comprehension. He
> should eat shit and die.
>
> What an asshole!
>
Now, now Chuck. Remember, he is the president of ALL the people, you
included.
I couldn't believe my eyes and ears either when he so clearly demonstrated
his priorities.
But then, I said to myself, George Bush made him do it.
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Old Harley Rider
Chuck Norris wrote:
> I cannot believe what I am seeing/hearing. Some MF SOB is on TV
> talking about some GD conference when he should be informing the
> American public about the situation and offering condolences to the
> families of those murdered by the perp(s).
>
> Un fucking believeable His actions are beyond comprehension. He
> should eat shit and die.
>
> What an asshole!
>
With muslims in our Military, what if a patrol is sent out and your son
is in the patrol. And right beside him is a muslim, who might shoot him
in the back. "I got your back" is a dangerous situtation today...
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Old Harley Rider
With muslims in our Military, what if a patrol is sent out and your son
Carl A. in FL
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I'd rather have a committed American soldier, regardless of race, color,
religion, sexual orientation, education level, sex, etc. next to me than a
nutcase, coward, or sociopath - regardless of his/her race, color, religion,
sexual orientation, education level, sex, etc.
And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards, and
sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
Old Harley Rider
I wonder how many assholes in Florida are named Carl A.
Do you think, is it possible, there is only one....
( and he wishes he had a Harley )
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Chuck Norris
During the Bush 2 administration, on numerous occasions, the dems
called him every vile name in the vocabulary of Hunter because he
didn't respond immediately to some event. Katrina and other disasters
were ALL BUSH'S FAULT.
But yesterday, 0 finally made an appearance to comment on the
Terrorist attack at Ft. Hood. He first had to offer praises to the
brave native Americans who had attended the conference. And when he
did remember to comment, it took him 1:58 to get around to mentioning
the tragedy. He hasn't even bothered to go to Ft. Hood to give a show
of support. His only positive act is to ORDER THE FLAGS FLOWN AT HALF
MAST.
This 'boy' is an embarrassment to the entire country: totally
unqualified for the job.. How can you libs sit back and not comment?
Do you approve of his total dissing of our armed forces?
Kenn Smith
any given time between 1/3 and 1/2 of them are deployed to Iraq or
Afghanistan. From what I hear from soldiers I sometime play golf with
they are trusted battle buddies within their squads and platoons.
D. Arlington
"Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards, and
> sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
Mike Hendrix
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Pretty rotten but probably accurate.
mike
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Carl A. in FL
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Prove me wrong. Be sure before you try that you understand the meaning of
"proportionally."
R.J.(Bob) Evans
It may be rotten but it sounded accurate to me.
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Old Harley Rider
R.J.(Bob) Evans wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:35 -0600 "D. Arlington"
> <inv...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:0064ef1c$0$7059$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards, and
>>> sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
>> That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
>
> It may be rotten but it sounded accurate to me.
>
If I thought for a moment you knew what you were talking about,
I'd be concerned.... But your just another clown talking through his
paper asshole.
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Old Harley Rider
R.J.(Bob) Evans wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:35 -0600 "D. Arlington"
> <inv...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:0064ef1c$0$7059$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards, and
>>> sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
>> That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
>
> It may be rotten but it sounded accurate to me.
>
pretty sad, ft hood houses 75,000 army troops, about 25,000 are
in iraq jerking off, so even with the 50,000 troops on site it took
a civilian woman to come in and save the 50,000 troops from the
big bad muslim ,,,, what a shame,,,,, usarmy might never live this down
--wait til the muslims in mid east hear about this, and goodbye to bambi
as world leader, after all he commander in chief includes usarmy which
did cowardly stuff against one muslim fatass who is in same usarmy, what
a fiasco
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Kenn Smith
75,000 military population, the actual assigned population floats
somewhere around 54,000. And there aren't 25,000 troops from Hood in
Iraq, more like 16,000 from the 1st Cav and its support units. The
actual base population yesterday was probably close to 31,000.
And despite your Rambo fantasies they don't all run around with loaded
weapons, or any weapons for that matter. Their first stop when the get
off an airplane returning from Iraq is the unit armory where they check
in their weapons, not to see them again until it's range time. Only
then do they get to claim their duffle and unite with their families.
So far as the civilian woman, she was a cop and according to reports a
tough cop. She and her partner were the first officers respondng to the
call, arriving about 3 minutes after the first shots were fired. The
shooter was put down by a duly sworn police officer no matter the
internal or external plumbing. She's also the mother of a 3 year old
daughter and married to an Army NCO.
No matter how you want to bitch, the command structure, president down,
did almost everything right. They isolated the scene, shot the gunman,
treated the wounded and got them to professional help in a helluva
hurry, the Commander in Chief talked with the senior officer on the
ground, Genaral Cone, promised him all the help he needed from anywhere
then stayed the hell out of the way. The absolute last thing Fort Hood
needed yesterday was to get the word that Air Force 1 would be on the
ground at Robert Gray Army Airfield in two hours.
While date and arrangements aren't finalized yet a fort wide memorial
service for the dead will most likely be held next week. I wouldn't be
at all surprised to see Air Force 1 fall out of the sky here that day.
nothermark
wrote:
then there are the Marines. ;-)
Chuck Norris
dot org> wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:35 -0600 "D. Arlington"
><inv...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:0064ef1c$0$7059$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>> And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards, and
>>> sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
>>
>>That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
>
>It may be rotten but it sounded accurate to me.
On what do you base your ridiculous statement? Provide substantiated
data please.
Bruce S
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:41 -0600, "R.J.(Bob) Evans" <bob at rjevans
> dot org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:35 -0600 "D. Arlington"
>> <inv...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:0064ef1c$0$7059$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards,
>>>> and sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
>>>
>>> That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
>>
>> It may be rotten but it sounded accurate to me.
>
>
> On what do you base your ridiculous statement? Provide substantiated
> data please.
Think proportionally, then think Hells Angels and the like.
Bruce
Max
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I agree with almost all of what you said.
But..... there were signs that the "command structure" ignored. (not that I
find that unusual)
The shooter had been written up for engaging in Islamic proselytization when
counseling the troops.
He had been known to criticize the war in Iraq.
Why wasn't he subjected to a psychological examination?
What sort of "judgment" was used when they decided to send him to Iraq?
I think the "command structure" f..ked up. (but, as a veteran of Korea, I
don't find that unusual)
Fort Bliss Commander, Major General Bromberg, said on TV this evening that
members are encouraged to report any suspicious or unusual conduct.
Why? To be ignored?
Max
Technobarbarian
"Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I rarely see anyone wearing outlaw biker gang colors any more. OTOH the
Harelys around here spend far more time parked outside of some sleazy bar
than they spend on the road.
TB
Old Harley Rider
Bruce S wrote:
>
> Think proportionally, then think Hells Angels and the like.
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
Now this is a profound statement. The hells angels are a minority,
not a majority. You ought to hang out at a Harley Dealers for about an
hour, you might learn something. You haven't the slightest idea what the
breakdown is of Harley owners, age? sex? income? occupation?
You have to spend at least $20,000.00 for a new Harley, and if you order
a custom made bike think $100,000.00
You've been watching too many fictional movies.
--
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Lone Haranguer
even the FBI wanted to go after a Muslim Arab.
Political Correctness you know. He was in a protected class and that is
why those people are dead and wounded today.
Because the people whose job it is to take the responsibility and make a
decision have #12 BBs for balls. Their career takes precedence over
doing the right thing.
LZ
Bruce S
No, I've spent most of my life working in law enforcement.
Bruce
Kenn Smith
thngs I was referring only to the shootings and their aftermath. I
agree with you that mistakes were made prior to that.
He had hired a lawyer to try to get out of the Army sometime around 2002
or 2003. The problem was that he had gotten his medical education
courtesy of DOD and that carries with it a significant service
obligation. Graduating, getting licensed in one or more states then
trying to claim conscientious objector or other status in an attempt to
duck the service responsibility is a fairly common dodge which rarely
works.
He was rebuked for prosthlesizing the muslim religion but in actuallity
that isn't all that unusual in the military. Had he done the same thing
for <pick your choice> mainstream religion most likely little note would
have been taken of it. I know I was offered a smorgasbord of religions
while I was on active duty.
Serious attention should have been paid when he started posting some
really off the wall stuff on blogs. But, where do you draw the First
Amendment line? Suppose it was just another clever shrink attempt to
dodge his service obligation.
I don't have a clue as to what his motivation was. Anger at being
shipped to Afghanistan at the end of the month? Anger that his car was
keyed? Anger at being called "a camel driver" although I have a real
problem envisioning that ever happening. No enlisted would dare ever
call an officer that (to his face) and I just can't see his fellow
doctors doing it. Civilians, maybe. Military, not likely. Absolute
faith in the insanity of martyrdom? He wasn't married so maybe he was
really looking forward to deflowering a raft of virgins. That's as good
a reason as any.
Frank Howell
I don't know Max, hindsight is always 20-20. With a base population as
large as it is, I'll bet there are other candidates that would fall in the
same suspicous behaviour category. The biggest problem is working with the
Muslim religion and treating them equally with the rest of the religions.
Walk on eggshells.
Just like other lone assassins he had deep-seated hatreds that could never
be predicted in advance.
--
Frank Howell
Max
I have to admit to biased opinions concerning the officer corps of the US
Army.
But I believe a competent psychiatrist could have determined what Hasan's
mindset was prior to the rampage.
He was giving signals and there were those who noticed.
The error was in not subjecting Hasan to an evaluation.
Someone dropped the ball.
In defense of the military though I would say that they don't have the
resources they need.
A follow up on a lot of these types of incidents reveals that signs were
very often evident but no one pursued them.
My guess about Hasan is that he was a devout Muslim who became a fanatic.
Max
bill horne
IMO, without hard evidence, no one who may have had suspicions wanted
to risk being accused of "profiling".
> A follow up on a lot of these types of incidents reveals that signs were
> very often evident but no one pursued them.
> My guess about Hasan is that he was a devout Muslim who became a fanatic.
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
JanO...@aol.com
petite lady cop.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6907235.ece
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BQBRSO0&show_article=1
Jan
Raymond J. Johnson Jr.
Hasan worked the Army for his medical schooling, and was determined
to crawfish out of his deal! The Army decided they were going to make
him do what it, or else!
I'll bet that Hasan really pissed off some of his bosses? Shrinks are
wonderful at that! 8>)
Who cut the orders for Hasan to go to war against his brother Muslims?
Hasan was probably already freaked, from hearing the horror stories
he''d heard, and decided to die a martyr? After all, he was a
religious nut, and nutcases are who go 5150 with guns in the news so
often.....
The problem with the Army's hard headed decision, was that bottom
feeders on the chain of command paid the price for that decision made
by the "big heat"! (as usual)
My guess is this won't be mentioned much, unless one of the
"insiders" starts having second thoughts about the result of those
actions?
I also agree with Max, an outside shrink would have seen trouble
coming, and kept Hasan doing whatever he was doing, pending further
evaluation blah blah blah.....
I've only talked with a few recent vets, but suspect the military is
riddled with modern day personnel problems unimagined from my days as a
GI?
During WWII, Japanese soldiers were sent to fight Nazis, and Germans
fought Japanese! Nobody tried to put them against their own culture!
If Hasan had wanted to go fight Muslims it would have been different.
Hasan didn't, and haired a lawyer to get him out of the Army. Why
would anyone responsible, send a disgruntled field grade officer into
the war he was disgruntled about?
Raymond
PS
Military Chaplains have got to be the 2nd strangest bunch of people on
earth! I've heard the Army even has "Wiccan Chaplains" now?
PPS
Prison Chaplains are even stranger! I could tell stories about them
that would make any good Christian's hair stand on end! HawHawHaw!
bill horne
> I think Max's idea about what happened is where the blame lies!
> Hasan worked the Army for his medical schooling, and was determined
> to crawfish out of his deal! The Army decided they were going to make
> him do what it, or else!
> I'll bet that Hasan really pissed off some of his bosses? Shrinks are
> wonderful at that! 8>)
> Who cut the orders for Hasan to go to war against his brother Muslims?
What in the world makes you think that the military would send a man -
in whom they'd invested 4 years for his MD and another 6 years
pursuing his career in psychiatry, as an intern, a resident and, last
year, a fellow in disaster and preventive psychiatry - "to go to war
against his brother Muslims"? What was he going to do? Shrink them to
death?
Raymond J. Johnson Jr.
Of course Hasan wasn't going to be a grunt over there, but he was
still in the war, just like mechanics, pecker checkers, and lots of
other positions in a war zone! You're now sounding like one of LZ's
bragging rants?
Do you think the Army made the right choice to make Hasan go, nuts or
not, just because they told him to, and "Orders are orders!"?
He didn't use his training "to shrink" those 13 people he killed, or
the 20 others he wounded did he?
One of the most screwed up guys I ever met in Vietnam was a clerk for
several shrinks at a clinic.
Lots of GIs came to the clinic to get out of scary places, or duties.
The shrinks usually wouldn't let them change, unless they were freaking
lots others out, and made Spec 4 jones the 1st "gatekeeper" of "Mental
Health!
He could even give the "malingerers" a packet of six tranquilizers,
so they'd forget about seeing the shrinks!
He was the 1st one to hear them cry, as they showed him pictures of
the kids, wives, and mothers! Some of them called him "Doc", and
asked him for "nervous pills", so they deal with their "anxiety"!
HawHawHaw!
By the time I went home, he was often so drunk, and stoned by
bedtime, that he slept in his clothes a lot of nights! I sometimes
wonder what be came of him?
I'd say, obviously, the wrong choice was made on how to handle Maj.
Hasan's "shirking", YMMV?
Ray Jay
Lone Haranguer
> fought Japanese! Nobody tried to put them against their own culture!
Wrong. I had cousins and uncles who were brought up speaking German at
home and who still had
relatives in Germany. They fought in Africa, Italy, France and Germany
against Germans. In fact they were shipped there
because of their ability to speak German. German speakers were an asset
in every military unit fighting Germans because they could interrogate
prisoners.
I had an aunt who was killed in the fire bombing of Dresden. Of course
we were taught that we were Americans first and everything else was
secondary.
In our little town during WWII, someone who acted like Jane Fonda would
have been killed with pitchforks on main street.
LZ
Mike Hendrix
wrote:
>Now who's talking out of their paper asshole? Fort Hood has never seen
---------------------------
Ken, thanks for the above info & comments. I think you summarized the
situation in good fashion.
Some folks do spend a lot of time talking out their ass.
mike
--
Mike Hendrix
Been there done that. Anyone doing that would committing career
suicide.
>
>Political Correctness you know. He was in a protected class and that is
>why those people are dead and wounded today.
Yep, Those things have to be handled with kid gloves. There isn't a
"right" course of action for those "in charge". The base commanders
are trying their best to deal with a VERY tough issue/situation and if
they want to "retire" they best walk on egg shells.
>
>Because the people whose job it is to take the responsibility and make a
>decision have #12 BBs for balls. Their career takes precedence over
>doing the right thing.
But Linus, you know that doing the right thing would only get them
relieved of command and what they were doing would have been reversed
somewhere up the line. Been there done that ----- seen that shit with
my own eyes.
mike
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Mike Hendrix
wrote:
That is a mistake that could/would have been career ending.
And that is a fact.
mike
--
Mike Hendrix
Johnson Jr.) wrote:
> I think Max's idea about what happened is where the blame lies!
> Hasan worked the Army for his medical schooling, and was determined
>to crawfish out of his deal! The Army decided they were going to make
>him do what it, or else!
Yep. Spot on.
Because they had paid for his education and the Muslims doctor had
signed a contract. Can't you just imagine how many individuals get
the military to pay for their medical schooling then try their best to
wiggle out of the obligation?
That is the rub.
mike
--
Lone Haranguer
Me too....but keep one thing foremost in your mind. It was the liberals
who invented political correctness and push it at every opportunity.
Through a liberal's eyes, Major Hasan is a "victim" because the Army
expected him to honor the contract he agreed to voluntarily.
He probably would never even have seen combat, he's an REMF.....remember?
I think my "counseling" would have consisted of a swift kick in the ass.
LZ
Bob Hatch
I wouldn't be
> at all surprised to see Air Force 1 fall out of the sky here that day.
>
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of the President, or that we are to stand by
the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic
and servile, but is morally treasonable to the
American public."
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bill horne
> Of course Hasan wasn't going to be a grunt over there, but he was
> still in the war, just like mechanics, pecker checkers, and lots of
> other positions in a war zone!
He wasn't going to be killing Muslims. He wasn't even going "to go to
war" with them.
> You're now sounding like one of LZ's
> bragging rants?
How so?
> Do you think the Army made the right choice to make Hasan go, nuts or
> not, just because they told him to, and "Orders are orders!"?
You think they should let him stay home just because he didn't want to go?
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>Now who's talking out of their paper asshole? Fort Hood has never seen
>75,000 military population, the actual assigned population floats
>somewhere around 54,000. And there aren't 25,000 troops from Hood in
>Iraq, more like 16,000 from the 1st Cav and its support units. The
>actual base population yesterday was probably close to 31,000.
>And despite your Rambo fantasies they don't all run around with loaded
>weapons, or any weapons for that matter. Their first stop when the get
>off an airplane returning from Iraq is the unit armory where they check
>in their weapons, not to see them again until it's range time. Only
>then do they get to claim their duffle and unite with their families.
>
>So far as the civilian woman, she was a cop and according to reports a
>tough cop. She and her partner were the first officers respondng to the
>call, arriving about 3 minutes after the first shots were fired. The
>shooter was put down by a duly sworn police officer no matter the
>internal or external plumbing. She's also the mother of a 3 year old
>daughter and married to an Army NCO.
>
>No matter how you want to bitch, the command structure, president down,
>did almost everything right. They isolated the scene, shot the gunman,
>treated the wounded and got them to professional help in a helluva
>hurry, the Commander in Chief talked with the senior officer on the
>ground, Genaral Cone, promised him all the help he needed from anywhere
>then stayed the hell out of the way. The absolute last thing Fort Hood
>needed yesterday was to get the word that Air Force 1 would be on the
>ground at Robert Gray Army Airfield in two hours.
Then why was it necessary for GWB to drop everything in a completely
unknown situation to fly to NO?
All 0 has done is order the flags lowered. He waited for 1 min 58 Sec
to even acknowledge the terrorist attack but used those 2 minutes
wisely do suck up to native Americans.
I wouldn't walk 10 feet to piss on his grave and I hope the occasion
arises!
He is a lying POS, out of his league, man-child who is ambivalent in
matters of muslim terrorists. He is one of them! Flat out, he is
preparing us for a nuclear attack.
>
>While date and arrangements aren't finalized yet a fort wide memorial
>service for the dead will most likely be held next week. I wouldn't be
>at all surprised to see Air Force 1 fall out of the sky here that day.
Holy shit, that trip is mandatory/mandatory!!! but I wouldn't bet on
his appearance if he can get out of it. Like signing a phoney-baloney
health care bill so necessary to our future.
Chuck Norris
wrote:
Bikers rarely attack civilians. They kill off their own kind.
Bruce S
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:48:17 -0700, "Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Chuck Norris wrote:
>>> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:45:41 -0600, "R.J.(Bob) Evans" <bob at
>>> rjevans dot org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 16:00:35 -0600 "D. Arlington"
>>>> <inv...@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:0064ef1c$0$7059$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>>> And believe me, there are proportionally more nutcases, cowards,
>>>>>> and sociopaths amongst Harley riders than amongst Muslims.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a pretty rotten thing to say.
>>>>
>>>> It may be rotten but it sounded accurate to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On what do you base your ridiculous statement? Provide
>>> substantiated data please.
>>
>> Think proportionally, then think Hells Angels and the like.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>
> Bikers rarely attack civilians. They kill off their own kind.
The simple fact that they kill their own does not make them less of
"nutcases, cowards, and sociopaths".
People self select to ride Harleys - their ranks are filled with social
misfits, criminals and midlife crises. If they wanted a good quality
motorcycle that rides comfortably, handles well, is sporty or suitable for
touring, they would pick a Honda, a Kawasaki, a Suzuki, a Yamaha, or a BMW.
The only reason to pick a Harley is to scream to the world, "LOOK AT ME!!!"
And that is a sure sign of mental health issues. So, while the average
Muslim (worldwide) is a fairly normal person, the average Harley rider has
chosen a Harley to show off his mental illness.
Bruce
Mike Hendrix
<linu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Linus, I know that is easy to say but I would like for some of the
"Liberals" on RORT to comment. I doubt anyone Liberal or Conservative
would consider him a "victim". It would be interesting to see the
comments.
>
>He probably would never even have seen combat, he's an REMF.....remember?
I don't know what a REMF is but him seeing combat is very unlikely.
>
>I think my "counseling" would have consisted of a swift kick in the ass.
I suspect that is what was recommended time and time again.
It will be interesting to see some of the reports come out. This
being under DOD there is no telling the "pablum" that will be allowed
to be passed to the media. You can bet your sweet ass there won't be
anything NEGATIVE allowed.
mike
--
Mike Hendrix
wrote:
>Raymond J. Johnson Jr. wrote:
It would be interesting to see what others would have done. Once
someone accepts the $$$$ to get an education I expect them to live up
to the contract they signed. He was smart enough to get into Med
school he was smart enough to understand the contract he was signing.
The military can't just let people out of their obligation ----- they
just can't. They may possibly consider letting them serve their time
in solitary confinement for the remainder of their enlistment
commitment plus having to pay back the cost of their entire education
and cost of their confinement.
But that is just me. The army has to draw a line.
mike
--
Bruce S
> bill horne <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>
>> You think they should let him stay home just because he didn't want
>> to go?
>
> It would be interesting to see what others would have done. Once
> someone accepts the $$$$ to get an education I expect them to live up
> to the contract they signed. He was smart enough to get into Med
> school he was smart enough to understand the contract he was signing.
>
> The military can't just let people out of their obligation ----- they
> just can't. They may possibly consider letting them serve their time
> in solitary confinement for the remainder of their enlistment
> commitment plus having to pay back the cost of their entire education
> and cost of their confinement.
>
> But that is just me. The army has to draw a line.
>
> mike
At a minimum, if he wanted out of his contract, he should have been stripped
of his medical license, and presented with a bill for his education, then
given a dishonorable discharge for failure to fulfill his contract.
Bruce
Lone Haranguer
>> He probably would never even have seen combat, he's an REMF.....remember?
>
> I don't know what a REMF is but him seeing combat is very unlikely.
Rear Echelon Mother F_____.
You sure you were in the military?
>
>> I think my "counseling" would have consisted of a swift kick in the ass.
>
> I suspect that is what was recommended time and time again.
Maybe. Some of the info indicates he was pro-active against our actions
in Iraq and Afghanistan.
In WWII a few words against the war effort whispered in a bar and FDR
would have you shipped to North Dakota to work on the RR.
>
> It will be interesting to see some of the reports come out. This
> being under DOD there is no telling the "pablum" that will be allowed
> to be passed to the media. You can bet your sweet ass there won't be
> anything NEGATIVE allowed.
>
> mike
"He snapped" is probably going to be the main theme.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
The Army sure spends a lot of time and effort getting troops ready to
deploy. I don't recall any of that when I was going to Combat Crew
Training School
at Langley AFB, in 1952. Your AFSC (MOS) pretty much decided what you
would be doing when you got to a combat zone. Of course our mood was
different since we were all volunteers but anyone who wanted to duck out
could just fail his physical or the water survival test.
Those who got cold feet after a few missions were allowed to quit and
take a job in the bomb dump.
LZ
Mike Hendrix
<linu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Navy, and I am SURE that I was there. VBG
In the Navy we were all pretty much REMF's since the only ones at the
tip of the spear were the pilots who were actually engaged in combat
roles like bombing raids or flying cover. The rest of us were
"support". Even those on surface ships were in reality out of harms
way so they could be classified as REMFs. I suspect the Navy didn't
cherish that term. VBG
>>
>>> I think my "counseling" would have consisted of a swift kick in the ass.
>>
>> I suspect that is what was recommended time and time again.
>
>Maybe. Some of the info indicates he was pro-active against our actions
>in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Yea, but there are a LOT of folks that are/were against the war in
Iraq ----- I think most supported the invasion of Afghanistan ---- the
occupation and Nation Building is another matter.
>
>In WWII a few words against the war effort whispered in a bar and FDR
>would have you shipped to North Dakota to work on the RR.
It is pretty shocking what happened Japanese-Americans who were
certainly treated unfairly. That is an embarrassment.
>>
>> It will be interesting to see some of the reports come out. This
>> being under DOD there is no telling the "pablum" that will be allowed
>> to be passed to the media. You can bet your sweet ass there won't be
>> anything NEGATIVE allowed.
>>
>> mike
>
>"He snapped" is probably going to be the main theme.
Yea, that sounds like a whole bowl full of pablum in one short sound
bite.
mike
--
>LZ
Lone Haranguer
He could have been air-dropped in and told to find a friendly unit.
Decision time. Which side would he rather serve with?
LZ
Elliot Richmond
>Actions by several heroes saved many lives. Especially a very brave
>petite lady cop.
Agreed. She is the kind of responder that runs toward the gunfire. She
deserves whatever accolades and awards we can give her. But I bet she
thinks she was just doing her job.
According to the local paper this morning, she is expected to make a
full recovery.
Elliot Richmond
Itinerant astronomy teacher
Lone Haranguer
My brother did two tours on Destroyers along the coast of North Korea.
They were shot at regularly and were only300 yards from shore
during the Inchon landing. A WWII friend who survived the sinking of
the Vincennes off Guadalcanal was recalled for Korea and spent a lot of
time in Wonson harbor being shot at. They evacuated our troops after
the big retreat and also a lot of civilians.
>
>>>> I think my "counseling" would have consisted of a swift kick in the ass.
>>> I suspect that is what was recommended time and time again.
>> Maybe. Some of the info indicates he was pro-active against our actions
>> in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>
> Yea, but there are a LOT of folks that are/were against the war in
> Iraq ----- I think most supported the invasion of Afghanistan ---- the
> occupation and Nation Building is another matter.
>
>
>> In WWII a few words against the war effort whispered in a bar and FDR
>> would have you shipped to North Dakota to work on the RR.
>
> It is pretty shocking what happened Japanese-Americans who were
> certainly treated unfairly. That is an embarrassment.
The father of a school friend of mine was shipped away for a couple of
years. He had immigrated in 1920 but still had a brother in Germany.
Friends and relatives kept the family alive.
>
>
>>> It will be interesting to see some of the reports come out. This
>>> being under DOD there is no telling the "pablum" that will be allowed
>>> to be passed to the media. You can bet your sweet ass there won't be
>>> anything NEGATIVE allowed.
>>>
>>> mike
>> "He snapped" is probably going to be the main theme.
>
> Yea, that sounds like a whole bowl full of pablum in one short sound
> bite.
Probably being bet on in Vegas,
LZ
>
> mike
bill horne
Eventually, some air-headed liberal will accuse her of using excessive
force as a result of religious bigotry.
JanO...@aol.com
> > <JanOrm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >> Actions by several heroes saved many lives. Especially a very brave
> >> petite lady cop.
>
> > Agreed. She is the kind of responder that runs toward the gunfire. She
> > deserves whatever accolades and awards we can give her. But I bet she
> > thinks she was just doing her job.
>
> > According to the local paper this morning, she is expected to make a
> > full recovery.
>
> Eventually, some air-headed liberal will accuse her of using excessive
> force as a result of religious bigotry.
> > --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
I just know that if we are playing paint ball,
cowboys & indians, charades or this kinda
live action engagement, I want her on my team!
Jan
Kenn Smith
was hit in both thighs and a wrist but no permanent damage is expected
from any of the wounds. What may or may not have come out in the
national media; she is qualifed as expert on most police weapons; she is
a police firearms instructor and she is a member of the fort's SWAT
team.
The local newspaper had an article this morning about the actions and
reactions of various people around the scene. At the graduation
ceremony being held in Howze theater, next door to the processing
center, there were six combat medics receiving degrees. At the sound of
shots fired they all sprinted out the door still in caps and gowns
heading for the acton. They were credited with stablizing a number of
wounded and saving the life of several with immediate first aid. They
were the first medical people on the scene.
RAM�
news:00aee69d$0$6603$c3e...@news.astraweb.com:
> People self select to ride Harleys - their ranks are filled with
> social misfits, criminals and midlife crises. If they wanted a good
> quality motorcycle that rides comfortably, handles well, is sporty or
> suitable for touring, they would pick a Honda, a Kawasaki, a Suzuki, a
> Yamaha, or a BMW.
>
Absolute nonsense.
I've ridden each of the "touring" riceburners and krautmobiles and never
wish to subject myself to another one.
Crotchrockets (including Beemers) have seat positions that murder my
back.
Riceburners are the Yugos of the motorcycle world: you can't get parts
for one that's over 3 years old.
Just because you have some unfounded snobbish idea that any of those is
somehow "superior" to a Hog is meaningless - it just describes your level
of Bigotry and Anti-American Bias.
RAM�
@mid.individual.net:
> "He snapped" is probably going to be the main theme.
If so, he "snapped" about a month ago when he started practicing his
marksmanship at a local *privately-owned* shooting range and told other
shooters that he was in search of a semi-auto pistol capable of holding 20
rounds.
Lone Haranguer
Oops! Scratch that one. Not looking like an impulse shooting now.
LZ
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>
>Just because you have some unfounded snobbish idea that any of those is
>somehow "superior" to a Hog is meaningless - it just describes your level
>of Bigotry and Anti-American Bias.
The real irony being that many Harley riders are doctors, lawyers,
bank presidents etc...
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
And widely labeled as scum by most liberals on RORT.
LZ
Kenn Smith
expression I picked up from Naval Aviators with whom I associated for
years: their description of a standard Air Force landing. Their
description of Air Force formaton flying? "Having each other in sight."
Kenn Smith
frothy around the muzzle when the subject of President Obama comes up.
I think the frothiness must detract from his reasoning abilities.
Trying to tie reactions to 9-11 and reactions to Thursday's shootings is
akin to comparing 500 pound bombs to nuclear bombs. The 9-11 attacks
were widespread and aimed at the financial and governmental centers of
the nation. President Bush may well have been a target. The Secret
Service wisely dedided to get him to a secure area ASAP while things got
sorted out. Thursday's shootings were very quickly determined to be
localized, no threat to the president. The Secret Service might have
heightened their protection level a notch but that would be about it.
If all Chuckles has to bitch about is 1:58 where the President didn't
speak about the shootings he doesn't have much of a case. But, that
won't keep him from getting frothy around the muzzle again.
Bob Hatch
bill horne
I once knew a C-130 pilot who made an approach for a carrier landing.
Rumor had it that the whole ship shat.
Lone Haranguer
> Kenn Smith wrote:
>> "Fallimg out of the sky" isn't wishful thinking on my part. It is an
>> expression I picked up from Naval Aviators with whom I associated for
>> years: their description of a standard Air Force landing. Their
>> description of Air Force formaton flying? "Having each other in sight."
>>
> Missed the smile, huh?
>
flying out of Langley.
"Target fixation" was rampant and I don't think a single aircraft would
have made it back without bullet holes if we had ammo instead of film.
Capt. Lee was livid. I remember he had to put over $10 in the "cuss
box" at a quarter per bad word.
LZ
Kenn Smith
chuckle from the origin of the expression.
Kenn Smith
information on the dead. It's enough to make one wonder if the
shootings were completly random. Included in the dead were a
psychiatrist, a psychologist, a psychiatric nurse and two physicians
assistants. So about 1/3 of the dead were from the same hospital where
Major Hasan was assigned.
larry
wrote:
>"Bruce S" <bruce...@gmail.com> wrote in
Are you sure you know what you are talking about Ram? Can you get
the Harley parts that are made in Japan? Parts for a 3 year old
Honda Gold Wing seem to be readily available right now. In the past
I have owned 2 other Gold Wings. Each for over 8 years and although
I never needed any major parts I never heard of them being
unavailable. I have also owned Yamaha's Triumph's Ducatti's Harley's
and even an old Indian. I never had a hard time getting whatever
parts I needed except for once and that was a crankcase cover for the
Indian. That had to come from a junkyard. Of course the bike was a
1948 and I needed the part in 1961.
I do however agree that most of the people who ride Harley's today are
a cross section of everybody in America. Some people have seen the
outlaw biker movies, have a vivid imagination and a long memory.
Kenn Smith
Hood Police Department, qualifed as Expert in just about everything the
department has in the way of weaponry. Her nickname within the
department? Mighty Mouse.
Max
> Riceburners are the Yugos of the motorcycle world: you can't get parts
> for one that's over 3 years old.
>
> Just because you have some unfounded snobbish idea that any of those is
> somehow "superior" to a Hog is meaningless - it just describes your level
> of Bigotry and Anti-American Bias.
I owned several Riceburners over the years. I never had trouble getting
parts.
But then I never needed them like I would have if I had owned a Hog. <BG>
Max
Eregon
Later news coverage alleged that he'd been going to the same DC mosque
as a known Al Queda sympathizer until his transfer to Ft. Hood. He'd
been going to that DC mosque since 2001.
Even later news coverage alleges that he'd been posting Islamic
Extremist comments on-line. The same coverage also stated that the FBI
is investigating those posts to determine if he (and not an imposter)
actually posted the statements.
William Boyd
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:22:43 -0600, Mike Hendrix wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:43:00 -0800, ranch...@webtv.net (Raymond J.
>> Johnson Jr.) wrote:
>>
>>> I think Max's idea about what happened is where the blame lies! Hasan
>>> worked the Army for his medical schooling, and was determined
>>> to crawfish out of his deal! The Army decided they were going to make
>>> him do what it, or else!
>> Yep. Spot on.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'll bet that Hasan really pissed off some of his bosses? Shrinks are
>>> wonderful at that! 8>)
>>> Who cut the orders for Hasan to go to war against his brother Muslims?
>>> Hasan was probably already freaked, from hearing the horror stories
>>> he''d heard, and decided to die a martyr? After all, he was a
>>> religious nut, and nutcases are who go 5150 with guns in the news so
>>> often.....
>>> The problem with the Army's hard headed decision, was that bottom
>>> feeders on the chain of command paid the price for that decision made
>>> by the "big heat"! (as usual)
>>> My guess is this won't be mentioned much, unless one of the
>>> "insiders" starts having second thoughts about the result of those
>>> actions?
>>> I also agree with Max, an outside shrink would have seen trouble
>>> coming, and kept Hasan doing whatever he was doing, pending further
>>> evaluation blah blah blah.....
>>> I've only talked with a few recent vets, but suspect the military is
>>> riddled with modern day personnel problems unimagined from my days as a
>>> GI?
>>> During WWII, Japanese soldiers were sent to fight Nazis, and Germans
>>> fought Japanese! Nobody tried to put them against their own culture! If
>>> Hasan had wanted to go fight Muslims it would have been different. Hasan
>>> didn't, and haired a lawyer to get him out of the Army. Why would
>>> anyone responsible, send a disgruntled field grade officer into the war
>>> he was disgruntled about?
>> Because they had paid for his education and the Muslims doctor had
>> signed a contract. Can't you just imagine how many individuals get the
>> military to pay for their medical schooling then try their best to
>> wiggle out of the obligation?
>>
>> That is the rub.
>>
>> mike
>
> One thing that I'd like to interject, as a Psychiatrist, Dr., he was part
> of the Medical Corp and wouldn't be doing any kind of combat against
> anyone. He would have been counseling soldiers who needed help coping
> with the situation.
>
> His claims of fighting against his own people is bogus.
>
>
>
Maybe he was under the heat there at Ft.Hood. That place gets way to hot
for me. Then I am not an Arab, just a West Texas lad. (Geezer) :-)
I was stationed there in the summer of 1954 taking training.
Sv. Co. 179th Inf. Regt. 45th Inf. Div. (Thunderbird's)
We were in tents and you had to have all side flaps rolled up if any
one was going to be in the tent in the day time. We seldom rolled them
down at night.
--
BILL P.
&
DOG
I Have been to places and done
things that the average man has
only dreamed of.
Chuck Norris
She will most certainly be nominated for the MoH! And deservedly so.
--
From earners to yearners. Obamanomics!
From makers to takers. Obamanomics!
Chuck Norris
Kenn Smith
for active duty military personnel. She is a civilian police officer.
She may well and deservedly be nominated for a decoration but it won't
be the MoH. But, I suppose that you will fabricate some way to blame
President Obama for that slight.
William Boyd
because I would bet Chuck would slap the shit out of you for your
replies. And I would just stand back and watch.
Max
news:18375-4AF...@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...
"Chuckles". I like that. How appropriate.
Max (chuckling)
Lone Haranguer
> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:41:39 -0600, Elliot Richmond
> <xmric...@xaustin.xrr.xcom> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:14:03 -0800 (PST), "JanO...@aol.com"
>> <JanO...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Actions by several heroes saved many lives. Especially a very brave
>>> petite lady cop.
>> Agreed. She is the kind of responder that runs toward the gunfire. She
>> deserves whatever accolades and awards we can give her. But I bet she
>> thinks she was just doing her job.
>>
>> According to the local paper this morning, she is expected to make a
>> full recovery.
>>
>>
>>
>> Elliot Richmond
>> Itinerant astronomy teacher
>
> She will most certainly be nominated for the MoH! And deservedly so.
She's not in the military.
Criteria: The Medal of Honor is awarded by the President, in the name of
Congress, to a person who, while a member of the Army, distinguishes
himself or herself conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at the
risk of his or her life above and beyond the call of duty while engaged
in action against an enemy of the United States;
I'm sure there are other awards she will qualify for.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
how to read a DD 214.
You are probably one of those who couldn't decipher Bush's NGB 22 either.
Is that because of stupidity or ignorance?
LZ
Kenn Smith
I suspect that I could decipher most of it. I do have a few 214's with
my name on them.
Lone Haranguer
> Well, Linus, I've never seen a NGB 22 but if it's anything like a DD 214
> I suspect that I could decipher most of it.
I didn't see you explaining the entries on Bush's NGB 22 to your fellow
liberals who all claimed they could spot the
fact that he didn't complete his service.
The link was posted a number of times but the lies continued.
I do have a few 214's with
> my name on them.
>
I have 5. I also spent 5 1/2 years as an AF adviser to the National
Guard and maintained all the personnel records for the units I was
adviser to.
So I knew what I was talking about and not a single liberal would admit
they didn't know what they were ranting about.
If you can decipher the NGB 22, your expertise was not used to educate
your fellow liberals.
LZ
Chuck Norris
wrote:
Her name is Kimberly Munley.
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>Chuckles, you show your stupidity more with every post. The MoH is only
Correection accepted. Make it the Medal of Freedom.
Chuck Norris
Boyd"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Kenn Smith wrote:
>> Chuckles, you show your stupidity more with every post. The MoH is only
>> for active duty military personnel. She is a civilian police officer.
>> She may well and deservedly be nominated for a decoration but it won't
>> be the MoH. But, I suppose that you will fabricate some way to blame
>> President Obama for that slight.
>>
>I guess we are pretty lucky being a keyboard away from each other,
>because I would bet Chuck would slap the shit out of you for your
>replies. And I would just stand back and watch.
I don't mind being corrected when I am wrong. That is a trait that no
dem/lib/socialist/communist will ever know or understand.
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>Chuckles, you show your stupidity more with every post. The MoH is only
Where was the SOB ruining the country when he fucked up even worse
last week? As the (supposed HMWAIC) he should have known better. Did
you e-mail him too?
Chuck Norris
<hamgu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:48:01 -0600, grizzl...@webtv.net (Kenn Smith)
>wrote:
>
>>Chuckles, you show your stupidity more with every post. The MoH is only
>>for active duty military personnel. She is a civilian police officer.
>>She may well and deservedly be nominated for a decoration but it won't
>>be the MoH. But, I suppose that you will fabricate some way to blame
>>President Obama for that slight.
>
>
>Correction accepted. Make it the Medal of Freedom.
Did you confront your commie asshole when he attributed the Moh...
From- http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/199491.php
November 06, 2009
Obama Can't Tell Difference Between Congressional Medal of Honor and
Congressional Gold Medal
The person President Obama gave a "shout-out" to in his banter before
his "address" to the nation regarding the Ft. Hood attack yesterday
was Joe Medicine Crow.
Obama wanted to thank that "Congressional Medal of Honor winner" for
showing up at the very important, very vital conference Obama was
attending
Only one problem -Joe Medicine Crow didn't receive the Congressional
Medal of Honor. He won the Presidential Medal of Freedom (given to him
by Obama, no less) and the Congressional Gold Medal.
In other words, Obama doesn't know the difference between a
Congressional Gold Medal and the Congressional Medal of Honor (the
highest award a member of the military can receive).
Your President, Obamacrats. So subtle. So smooth. So suave. So
sensitive. So intelligent. The best ever.
And the magnificant 0 is the one that gave him the medal. What a
maroon!
Well?
Lone Haranguer
LZ
Kenn Smith
doubt if there is president in the history of this nation who hasn't
misspoken when talking extermoraneously. I don't see it as anything to
get the blood pressure up over.
BTW, your last reponse to me regarding DD 214's was totally irrelevant.
You posted that you doubted that I could decipher a NGB 22 form. I
posted that I figured that I could if it was anything like a 214. Then
you came up with this off the wall crap that I was supposed to have used
my knowledge to educate my "liberal friends".
I have a copy of every order ever issued me and search as I may I can't
find any order directing me to be The Educator in Chief of Civilians Who
Don't Understand the Intricacies of Government Forms. One might have
been mailed to me at one time or another but it got lost in transit
And you know nothing about my politics. Nothing! I am actually a
slightly right of center moderate - I have as much distaste for the far
left as I do for the far right, you're all a bunch of dogmatic idiots.
I have voted for Republicans, I have voted for Independents and I have
voted for Democrats. I don't think that I have voted a straight ticket
once in my 77 years and am most unlikely to do so in my remaining ones.
Lone Haranguer
> Didn't overload my WebTV unit, came through ound and clear. So what? I
> doubt if there is president in the history of this nation who hasn't
> misspoken when talking extermoraneously. I don't see it as anything to
> get the blood pressure up over.
I don't believe he "misspoke". He allowed his ignorance to show. He
had awarded the medal in question himself and most likely didn't know
the difference
until after his gaffe.
>
> BTW, your last reponse to me regarding DD 214's was totally irrelevant.
> You posted that you doubted that I could decipher a NGB 22 form. I
> posted that I figured that I could if it was anything like a 214. Then
> you came up with this off the wall crap that I was supposed to have used
> my knowledge to educate my "liberal friends".
Well, why wouldn't you? They made comments more ignorant than the one
Chuck made. You let their ignorance go unremarked.
>
> I have a copy of every order ever issued me and search as I may I can't
> find any order directing me to be The Educator in Chief of Civilians Who
> Don't Understand the Intricacies of Government Forms. One might have
> been mailed to me at one time or another but it got lost in transit
Ah! You are qualified to report on some goofs but not those made by
liberals. Got it.
>
> And you know nothing about my politics. Nothing!
The views you've expressed and those you defend say otherwise.
LZ
Max
news:7ls39cF...@mid.individual.net...
C'mon, Linus, to you almost everyone is a liberal.
Max (somewhat right of center according to several surveys)
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>Didn't overload my WebTV unit, came through ound and clear. So what? I
>doubt if there is president in the history of this nation who hasn't
>misspoken when talking extermoraneously. I don't see it as anything to
>get the blood pressure up over.
You are making excuses. You got your panties in a wad when you thought
(well, since you can't/don't think, this isn't the proper term, BUT).
Try and wiggle out for your Supreme Leader, the Mighty 0.
Hoisted...petard. Maroon!
>
worthless babble deleted.
Lone Haranguer
I have a good nose and they are easy to sniff out.
>
> Max (somewhat right of center according to several surveys)
>
I don't even believe the surveys I take.
LZ
Kenn Smith
you're either with him or against him. There ain't no middle ground.
He's wound way too tight to understand that I am having fun with him.
If he couldn't see the humor in my last post he is taking things much
too seriously. I put together a nonsensical paragraph about not being
assigned the job of Educator in Chief . . . . . all in good humor, and
he comes back with some some retort irrelevant to anything. But, then,
he's very good at steering the conversation where he wants it to go no
matter what.
I'll tweak him every few months just for laughs but it's really hard to
take him seriously.
Kenn Smith
most of what is posted in here is mildly amusing and a sad commentary
on the state of civility in our nation. If you take the crap in here
seriously you're in for an early heart attack.
Max
He mentioned a NGB22 form. I thought it was some sort of new virus. I still
don't know what it is.
But I only served 3 years, 2 months and 28 days.
Then I had to get a job. {:-)
Max
Max
Or insanity. {:-)
Kenn Smith
missiles! Big missiles, little missiles, all sorts of fun stuff. Now I
will admit that straddling a TM-61C in a cold Korean winter rain
tweaking the guidance system isn't the most fun thing in the world but
it was still satisfying to bring it in on the strongest possible signal.
That was so far back that the guidance systems used only vacum tubes.
The 12AT7 tube was the heart of the system and I usually had several in
my pocket.
When I came back to the 'States and was assigned to the Minuteman
development project at Cape Canaveral I had to take about half a dozen
courses on solid state electronics to even begin to understand the
guidance system. I'm not sure I ever truly understood it :-) But,
whatever, I got to crew 62 launches. Now that was _real_ fun. They
actually paid me to do it.
Lone Haranguer
> Max, Linus sees the world through some severely distorted lenses -
> you're either with him or against him. There ain't no middle ground.
I like to expose phonies.
>
> He's wound way too tight to understand that I am having fun with him.
But it's the other way around. You'll find a lot more humor in my posts
than you are capable of grasping.
> If he couldn't see the humor in my last post he is taking things much
> too seriously. I put together a nonsensical paragraph about not being
> assigned the job of Educator in Chief . . . . . all in good humor, and
> he comes back with some some retort irrelevant to anything.
Then you are even dumber than I thought.
But, then,
> he's very good at steering the conversation where he wants it to go no
> matter what.
You don't steer, eh? Like Loopy Lampson you prefer webtv so you don't
have to answer the questions but start with a blank slate every time.
>
> I'll tweak him every few months just for laughs but it's really hard to
> take him seriously.
>
You leave when your ass gets tender from being kicked.
LZ
b6...@mid.individual.net...
> Kenn Smith wrote:
>> Didn't overload my WebTV unit, came through ound and clear. So what? I
>> doubt if there is president in the history of this nation who hasn't
>> misspoken when talking extermoraneously. I don't see it as anything to
>> get the blood pressure up over.
You misspelled extemporaneously.
>
> I don't believe he "misspoke". He allowed his ignorance to show. He
had awarded the medal in question himself and most likely didn't know
the difference
> until after his gaffe.
So rather than defend the big 0 you change the subject.
Lone Haranguer
man's average life span.
Actually I consider myself very lucky to have survived this long.
LZ