Sarah
JerryD(upstateNY)
I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
Hunter Hampton
<m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
She's not a smart woman.
Hunter
Carl A. in FL
> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>
If she were, real unemployment would not be >16%.
Employers would not be relocating offshore.
Real taxes would not be going up.
We would be winning in Afghanistan.
Iran would probably face effective sanctions.
Her approval rate would be above 65%.
And, best of all, the Liberals would all be in the process of moving to
Canada.
--
Carl A. in FL
http://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/index.htm
Carl A. in FL
LOL - as they say "it takes one to recognize one."
matt_colie
You can't vote against Sarah Palin and call yourself a woman.
(I also suspect that you didn't actually understand what she said.)
Matt
Carl A. in FL
Matt,
to paraphrase more accurately: "You can't vote against Sarah Palin and
call yourself a *smart* woman."
Lone Haranguer
make that call.
LZ
dm_callier
And pigs would fly...
Seriously, what would be different today if Obama hadn't been elected?
Palin would be VP, McCain POTUS, same crop of congresscritters, same
dismal economy courtesy of years of ReaganBushClintonBush, same
albatross of Afghanistan and Iraq. Different pig, same lipstick.
Enjoy the day...
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>(I also suspect that you didn't actually understand what she said.)
You men who drool over Sarah Palin either didn't actually hear what
she said, or are so blinded by her beauty that you don't know the
difference between Iran and Iraq either?
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
Gee, that sounds like sexual jealousy. Just because you are over the
hill and can no longer attract men should not cause you to turn green.
When Obama fumbles the ball, all the liberals say he "misspoke". It's
become a regular chorus orchestrated by Gibbering Gibbs.
LZ
Max
news:he67fd$8ri$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
You were really impressed??
Max
Don Bradner
wrote:
I almost choked when I heard her give her reason for allowing further
settlements on Palestinian land:
"I believe the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded
upon, because that population of Israel is going to grow"
If she is fair and equitable I assume she would approve of Mexican
settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population
is growing so fast?
---
Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net
'90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder"
towing '07 Jeep Liberty
Carl A. in FL
With the threat of a presidential veto blocking asinine legislation, I
strongly suspect that Congress would have wasted time on cap and trade
(an economic disaster in the making, if there ever was one), the robbing
of Medicare to insure illegal aliens, stimulus/porkulus that was a total
waste of $ 8 Billion. We most likely would have seen a major push to
stimulate the economy and employment by cutting taxes and providing real
incentives for the few remaining productive members of our society. We
would not have our POTUS going around the world, denigrating America,
and making us the laughing stock of Europe. We would be supporting
competent generals in Afghanistan with the resources they ask for, and
we would not have an AG bent on destroying our intelligent services and
giving terrorists a forum. We would not have a totally incompetent head
of Homeland Security, we would have had H1N1, if needed, and we would
not have a Health Secretary who can't make up her mind at what age boobs
ought to be XRayed. We most certainly wouldn't have a tax cheat and
inside trader for SecTreas, economic advisors as stupid as Larry Summers
and Christina Romer, and innumerable Czars, not subject to vetting and
Congressional supervision, making major policy decisions.
Need I go on, or do you get my drift?
Lone Haranguer
After Obama's empty words and posturing, a Cabbage Patch doll looks
intelligent.
LZ
X Sub
> If she is fair and equitable I assume she would approve of Mexican
> settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population
> is growing so fast?
>
> ---
> Don Bradner
> www.arcatapet.net
> '90 Wanderlodge PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> towing '07 Jeep Liberty
>
You got it wrong!! Mexicans have enough land to stay in Mexico.
X Sub
ernie
wrote:
> She's not a smart woman.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read!
Don Bradner
wrote:
So you are saying that it is only OK for small countries with growing
populations to setup settlements on another's land? I guess Mexico was
a bad example for you, and you would prefer Haiti.
Lone Haranguer
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:41 -0700, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:he67fd$8ri$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>>
>>> --
>>> JerryD(upstateNY)
>> You were really impressed??
>>
>> Max
>
> I almost choked when I heard her give her reason for allowing further
> settlements on Palestinian land:
>
> "I believe the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded
> upon, because that population of Israel is going to grow"
>
> If she is fair and equitable I assume she would approve of Mexican
> settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population
> is growing so fast?
>
Arizona is
114,006 square miles? Israel OTOH is 8367 square miles.
Population density in Israel has risen from 43 persons per square
kilometer in 1948 to 260 today.
Texas - 79.6/sq mi (30.75/km2)
Arizona-55.8/sq mi (21.54/km2)
*********************
Statistics may need updating but the difference in population density is
obvious.
LZ
Bruce S
>
> I almost choked when I heard her give her reason for allowing further
> settlements on Palestinian land:
>
> "I believe the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded
> upon, because that population of Israel is going to grow"
>
> If she is fair and equitable I assume she would approve of Mexican
> settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population
> is growing so fast?
Actually, your analogy is backwards. Telling Isreal that they can't build
settlements is much closer to telling Texans that they can't build
settlements in Texas. Israel won that land, fair and square, in a war that
was not started by them, but which they won. They have every right to the
land, and should be, not just permitted, but encouraged, to do whatever they
want on it.
And, for the record, there is no such thing as Palestinian land, the land
belongs to whatever country puts it's flag there.
Bruce
Lone Haranguer
I believe the Ottoman Turks held the area the longest, should the fact
that they picked the wrong side in WWI and lost the territory
be counted NOW? Just what date in history should we pick to determine
who owns what?
LZ
>
Technobarbarian
"Don Bradner" <do...@arcatapet.com> wrote in message
news:d7fdg5t2pasel3qpe...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:33:41 -0700, "Max" <thesam...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
>>"JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:he67fd$8ri$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>>
>>> --
>>> JerryD(upstateNY)
>>
>>You were really impressed??
>>
>>Max
>
> I almost choked when I heard her give her reason for allowing further
> settlements on Palestinian land:
>
> "I believe the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded
> upon, because that population of Israel is going to grow"
>
> If she is fair and equitable I assume she would approve of Mexican
> settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population
> is growing so fast?
Thanks Don, I had missed that one. You could be on to something here.
Maybe we could solve the problem of illegal immigration by returning all the
land we took from Mexico to them.
If I didn't know better I would think that JerryD was kidding when he
used a video of yet another Palin screw up as proof of her intelligence, but
her fans live in a wonderful fantasy land.
For those who haven't been following the situation in Israel: Obama is
continuing a long tradition of screwing up in that area. While he's been
talking tough on the settlements Israel has been ignoring him. Andrew
Sullivan comments on this and Palin's comments in his blog:
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/palin-on-israel.html
To understand why Palin would say something so nutty you have to
understand the bizzare religious environment she lives in. She's not talking
about natural population growth. She's talking about large numbers of Jews
moving to Israel in the coming days, weeks and months. Much of this can be
traced to things she learned from the Assemblies of God. She had an Israeli
flag in the Governor's office for a reason.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/04/palins-evangelical-faith-drives-pro-israel-view/
TB
TB
John Kinney
Yes, we get the drift that you don't have a clue what you're talking
about, but we knew that already.
Let's look at "innumerable Czars", for example. Based on media reports
calling a particular presidential appointment a "czar":
Bill Clinton 1993–2001 7 czars
George Bush 2001–2009 47 czars
Barack Obama 2009– 32 czars
Hey, Clinton and Obama togther haven't reached Dubya's total.
And it wasn't just the dreaded ghost of the non-existent "liberal press".
In fact, Bill O'Reilly of Faux News recommended that even more czars be
appointed (fair use quotations):
March 13, 2002
> A presidential counsel should be appointed immigration czar and clean
> out the INS once and for all.
October 21, 2001
> Talking Points continues to ask for the appointment of a charity czar to
> coordinate all the money and organizations. (O'Reilly repeated the call
> on June 11, 2002)
October 4, 2001
> Yeah, there should be somebody appointed by the federal government, a
> disaster relief victims family czar, to do it.
Source: http://mediamatters.org/research/200909080038
Now Faux News has decided that"czar" sounds communistic, so therefore
it's a good way to attack Obama and suck in some viewer$hip from the
Republican cult members.
The 32 czar count above is actually based on an diatribe by Faux News'
chief fruitcake Glenn Beck. Beck conveniently overlooked the fact that 8
of the "czars" are actually congress-approved appointees and 15 of the
"czars" were appointed to fill advisory positions he inherited from the
Bush/Cheney/Rove misadministration (fair use quotation).
> # Fifteen of the "czarships" Beck lists, including seven that are in
> neither of the above categories, were created by previous
> administrations. (In some cases, as with the "economic czar," the actual
> title – in this case, chairman of the president’s economic recovery
> advisory board – is new, but there has been an official overseeing the
> area in past administrations. In others, as with the special envoy to
> Sudan, the position is old but the "czar" appellation is new.)
> # In all, of the 32 positions in Beck’s list, only eight are
> Obama-appointed, unconfirmed, brand new czars.
Source: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/09/czar-search/
And perhaps we should remember that the third member of the
Bush/Cheney/Rove misadministration was Karl Rove himself, Dubya's
"Domestic Policy Czar".
Source: http://www.youtube.com/v/ZXy-vPN_i7A
Regards, John Kinney
Bruce S
The land belongs to whomever won the most recent war to take possession of
it. In this case, Israel should be awarded every square inch they won in
all the wars that the Arab nations started with them.
Bruce
John Kinney
> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:30:04 -0500, matt_colie <ma...@charter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (I also suspect that you didn't actually understand what she said.)
>>
>> You men who drool over Sarah Palin either didn't actually hear what she
>> said, or are so blinded by her beauty that you don't know the
>> difference between Iran and Iraq either?
>>
>> Hunter
>
> Gee, that sounds like sexual jealousy. Just because you are over the
> hill and can no longer attract men should not cause you to turn green.
[yawn]
> When Obama fumbles the ball, all the liberals say he "misspoke". It's
> become a regular chorus orchestrated by Gibbering Gibbs.
And when Dubya fumbled the ball, the Oxford Dictionary of Phrase, Saying,
and Quotation added a section called "Bushisms" and people tried to make
comprehensive lists. But it happened so often most folks couldn't keep
up. Of course, the cons said it was all the Dem's fault.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushquotes/a/dumbbushquotes.htm
http://www.languagemonitor.com/politics/bushisms
http://www.slate.com/id/76886/
http://mindprod.com/politics/bushisms.html
And that's just a few of the Google hits.
Janet Wilder
> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
She is not smarter than the average person.
> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>
I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy with
the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the two, I'd
choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics, *he* is smart.
--
Janet Wilder
Way-the-heck-south Texas
Spelling doesn't count. Cooking does.
Janet Wilder
Aplauding
Hunter Hampton
<ernest....@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>That's the stupidest thing I've ever read!
Really? Then I guess you ignore your own posts.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
>
>> You men who drool over Sarah Palin either didn't actually hear what
>> she said, or are so blinded by her beauty that you don't know the
>> difference between Iran and Iraq either?
>>
>> Hunter
>
>Gee, that sounds like sexual jealousy. Just because you are over the
>hill and can no longer attract men should not cause you to turn green.
Gee, what does my age have to do with her stupidity?
When I was her age, I was better looking and smarter.
Hunter
X Sub
> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>
> She is not smarter than the average person.
>
>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>
>
> I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy with
> the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the two, I'd
> choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics, *he* is smart.
>
should I say N. Mexico
X Sub
Lone Haranguer
> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>
> She is not smarter than the average person.
>
>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>
>
> I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy with
> the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the two, I'd
> choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics, *he* is smart.
>
mind spend 20 years in the Reverend Wright's church?
Would he choose terrorist bombers as friends? Would he engage in shady
real estate deals with known criminals?
Palin's short political career accomplished more than Obama did before
he gained the power of the White House.
LZ
dm_callier
Really? Oh well, the day is still young. Tell you what, why don't the
Repukes run the "dream ticket" of Palin/Prejean next time around.
President Sarah Palin and Vice President Carrie Prejean. Kind of a
nice ring to it. Talk about playing to the base. Two former beauty
queens who aren't afraid to take it to the "Man". Two downhome, salt
of the earth, regular gals, who're ready to straighten out this
country out with some bible based common sense. If only the liberal
press would stop trying to ask them trick questions and making them
look bad...
Enjoy the day
Carl A. in FL
Someone was observing the interesting fact that the women who loudly
hate Sarah Palin do so because she managed to get to the top without
"sleeping" her way there. Think Sally Quinn, Bawa Walters, et al.
Aside from pole dancing and being a good housekeeper in divorces (i.e.
always keeping the house) how does Hunter qualify?
Lone Haranguer
And you used your talents to become a sexual predator instead of
governor of our largest state.
There are thousands just like you but we haven't had that many women
governors or VP candidates.
You must have gotten sidetracked.
LZ
>
> Hunter
Hunter Hampton
Has it ever occurred to you that I wouldn't want to be governor of
anything? Well, I didn't.
I still don't.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
<cha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Aside from pole dancing and being a good housekeeper in divorces (i.e.
>always keeping the house) how does Hunter qualify?
You don't think I should keep what I pay for?
My first ex and I didn't own a house, or anything but a car... which
he kept.
My second died, so yes, I kept the house. It's not possible to split a
house with a dead guy.
The third moved into a house I bought and paid for..... before I met
him. Should I have given it to him after 8 mos of marriage?
My last and I, sold the farm.... and split the proceeds...
So Carl, shut the fuck up...as usual you don't know what you're
talking about.
Why don't you stick to posting stupid made up stories, claming them to
be true.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
<cha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Aside from pole dancing and being a good housekeeper in divorces (i.e.
>always keeping the house) how does Hunter qualify?
Pole dancing? Carl, is there no end to your lies?
You really have sunk to depths most men can only imagine.
Hunter
Carl A. in FL
Hallelujah, a miracle has happened -- I'm out of Hunter's filter!!!
I figured correctly that if I would piss her off often enough, she would
eventually drop the pretense and call me an asshole, tell me to fuck
myself, and then loudly re-plonk me. Just wait, I can sense a plonk
coming...
Carl A. in FL
Yeah! A twofer.
Lone Haranguer
And maybe Sarah thought she would contribute more to society as a
governor than in marrying and divorcing men as a career.
Try as I might I don't visualize your career as in any way benefiting
society at large.
LZ
Zandermax
"Carl A. in FL" <cha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:007857fb$0$8173$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
you
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hallelujah, a miracle has happened -- I'm out of Hunter's filter!!!
>>
>> I figured correctly that if I would piss her off often enough, she would
>> eventually drop the pretense and call me an asshole, tell me to fuck
>> myself, and then loudly re-plonk me. Just wait, I can sense a plonk
>> coming...
>>
>> --
>> Carl A. in FL
>> http://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/index.htm
>>
>You do have to admit sea knows exactly the label that's most deserving for
>you
Actually, Carl is not out of my filter, but because of the thread I
changed to all messages to see what the filter inhabitants were
writing about their goddess...
Imagine my surprise when I saw all those lies about me, but then Carl
has become a habitual liar.....
The irony being he thought I was suitable enough to come enjoy my
hospitality, and better yet introduce his quite lovely wife to me. I
guess I'm really so bad....
Hunter
Steve Wolf
Certainly doesn't appear to know a thing about RVing. Wait. Is this
OT? No matter. She's not smart in any case.
JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
bill horne
Does that make you a plonkerbaiter?
--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
bill horne
> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>
> She is not smarter than the average person.
>
>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>
>
> I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy with
> the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the two, I'd
> choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics, *he* is smart.
>
If he's smart, it's not translating to his job.
Lone Haranguer
FDR even said he liked "Old Joe" Stalin. It's called being diplomatic.
LZ
Janet Wilder
Iraq, however.
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>
>Does that make you a plonkerbaiter?
More like a master baiter.
Hunter
Hunter Hampton
If a lowly governor, who *quit* in the middle of her term, benefits
society...
Then you must think a president benefits a whole lot more...
Hunter
Bruce S
> bill horne wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>>>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>>>
>>> She is not smarter than the average person.
>>>
>>>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>>>
>>>
>>> I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy
>>> with the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the
>>> two, I'd choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics,
>>> *he* is smart.
>>
>> If he's smart, it's not translating to his job.
>>
> That might be very true. He does know the difference between Iran and
> Iraq, however.
But he thinks we have 57 states. Now, which of them is smarter?
Bruce
Lone Haranguer
> bill horne wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>>>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>>>
>>> She is not smarter than the average person.
>>>
>>>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>>>
>>>
>>> I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy
>>> with the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the
>>> two, I'd choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics,
>>> *he* is smart.
>>>
>>
>> If he's smart, it's not translating to his job.
>>
> That might be very true. He does know the difference between Iran and
> Iraq, however.
>
place.......
LZ
JerryD(upstateNY)
approve of Mexican
settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population is
growing so fast?
If Mexico won those parts of Arizona and Texas in a war then it would be
fine if they settle there.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
Max
news:014e2efb$0$24655$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
I don't know..........................he's gotten away with a lot of shit.
Max
Lone Haranguer
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:57 -0700, Lone Haranguer
> <linu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And maybe Sarah thought she would contribute more to society as a
>> governor than in marrying and divorcing men as a career.
>> Try as I might I don't visualize your career as in any way benefiting
>> society at large.
>
> If a lowly governor, who *quit* in the middle of her term, benefits
> society...
Under her leadership, the state invested $5 billion in savings,
overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits
Program to provide support for low-income older Alaskans. She created
Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to oversee and maintain oil
and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change
Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration
passed major pieces of legislation. She came to office promising
landmark ethics reform to end the culture of self-dealing, and today,
that ethics reform is the law.
Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline – the largest private-sector
infrastructure project in North American history – to help lead our
country to energy independence.
When oil and gas prices went up dramatically and the state revenues
rose, Governor Palin sent a large share of that revenue directly back to
the people of Alaska. She also suspended the state's fuel tax.
*********************
Do YOU have any public service to compare to hers?
>
> Then you must think a president benefits a whole lot more...
He has the option but Obama has done nothing for the public good, unless
you count ACORN members and his vote-buying pals.
LZ
>
> Hunter
John Kinney
Naw, just makes him a common asshole.
Regards, John Kinney
Chuck Norris
<airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:01:03 -0500, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)"
><m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>
>She's not a smart woman.
>
>Hunter
Meow...Meow.
--
"Liberals refuse to allow facts to conflict with their preconceived
notions."
And its corollary
"A Conservative believes what he sees; a Liberal sees what he
believes.
Chuck Norris
Just plain Dusty
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:01:03 -0500, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)"
> <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>
> She's not a smart woman.
did zero govern? How many divisions of guard troops and their material did
zero direct?
Yeah...kinda what I thought. With no accomplishments of any kind, he's
better than those that actually work for a living and sign paychecks on the
front. Another checkmark for the simple minded...
I guess that's pretty simple to some.
Dusty
--
"As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel
Peace Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that America
gave him the White House based on the same credentials." -- Newt
Gingrich
Max
news:he7dhg$40e$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
How come you're not living in Germany?
Max
Carl A. in FL
Carl A. in FL
bill horne
Actually, he and his handlers and flunkies have done a lot of shitting
in their mess kits.
JerryD(upstateNY)
I am not saying that video proved she is the smartest woman alive.
If you listen to lefties talk, she is too dumb to put words together to make
a sentence.
Whether you agree with what she is saying or not, you have to agree that she
can talk without a teleprompter telling her what to say. (unlike Obama)
The only reason she s being trashed all the time in the MSM, is the left is
scared to death of her.
hehehehehehe
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
"JerryD(upstateNY)" wrote in message
>>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
Hunter Hampton
<m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>If you listen to lefties talk, she is too dumb to put words together to make
>a sentence.
>Whether you agree with what she is saying or not, you have to agree that she
>can talk without a teleprompter telling her what to say.
That was what made it look stupid. It seemed like she had been coached
what to say, if a certain question was asked.
Only said it to the wrong question.
Hunter
Lone Haranguer
If she was "coached" why are the lefty fringe saying she dodged the
questions?
LZ
Lone Haranguer
Here's Hunter's idea of the ideal woman.
The ACLU will most likely use her as another fund-raising event if the
cookie sales don't raise enough cash.
LZ
Pella
"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7mossjF...@mid.individual.net...
Hunter Hampton wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:57 -0700, Lone Haranguer
> <linu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And maybe Sarah thought she would contribute more to society as a
>> governor than in marrying and divorcing men as a career.
>> Try as I might I don't visualize your career as in any way benefiting
>> society at large.
>
> If a lowly governor, who *quit* in the middle of her term, benefits
> society...
Under her leadership, the state invested $5 billion in savings,
overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits
Program to provide support for low-income older Alaskans. She created
Alaska�s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to oversee and maintain oil
and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change
Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
During her first legislative session, Governor Palin�s administration
passed major pieces of legislation. She came to office promising
landmark ethics reform to end the culture of self-dealing, and today,
that ethics reform is the law.
Wow landmark ethics reform, and then gets cut up in her own ethics and
having to quit.
Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline � the largest private-sector
infrastructure project in North American history � to help lead our
country to energy independence.
And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
When oil and gas prices went up dramatically and the state revenues
rose, Governor Palin sent a large share of that revenue directly back to
the people of Alaska. She also suspended the state's fuel tax.
*********************
This is odd, then why would Alaska have the highest fuel prices?
Lone Haranguer
>
> "Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7mossjF...@mid.individual.net...
> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:57:57 -0700, Lone Haranguer
>> <linu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And maybe Sarah thought she would contribute more to society as a
>>> governor than in marrying and divorcing men as a career.
>>> Try as I might I don't visualize your career as in any way benefiting
>>> society at large.
>>
>> If a lowly governor, who *quit* in the middle of her term, benefits
>> society...
>
> Under her leadership, the state invested $5 billion in savings,
> overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits
> Program to provide support for low-income older Alaskans. She created
> and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change
> Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
>
> passed major pieces of legislation. She came to office promising
> landmark ethics reform to end the culture of self-dealing, and today,
> that ethics reform is the law.
>
> Wow landmark ethics reform, and then gets cut up in her own ethics and
> having to quit.
>
> Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
> to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
> infrastructure project in North American history – to help lead our
> country to energy independence.
>
> And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=18&path=A/AK_PIPELINE_PROJECTS
>
>
> When oil and gas prices went up dramatically and the state revenues
> rose, Governor Palin sent a large share of that revenue directly back to
> the people of Alaska. She also suspended the state's fuel tax.
> *********************
>
> This is odd, then why would Alaska have the highest fuel prices?
How many refineries does it have? What percentage of total fuel prices
are state tax and how does Alaska compare to other states
with a large area and a low population density?
The questions are rhetorical since we know Deano has never provided an
honest answer to any question.
LZ
>
>
>
>
>
Pella
>
> Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
> to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
> infrastructure project in North American history � to help lead our
> country to energy independence.
>
> And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=18&path=A/AK_PIPELINE_PROJECTS
>
>
LZ
>
Just a pipe dream with NG under $ 5.00 it will remain a pipe dream for many
years to come, oh BTW governor Frank Murkowski is the one that proposed that
pipe dream first.
Technobarbarian
http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=18&path=A/AK_PIPELINE_PROJECTS
LOL, the 95 people TransCanada has working on the project are being
subsidized by AK under plan Palin. AK has commited $500,000,000 to that
project. The Denali proposal is funded by private industry and is moving
ahead despite Sarah Palin's efforts, not because of them. Of the two the
Denali project is far more likely to see the light of day.
There's something wonderfully backward about the same people who are
weeping over industry bailouts applauding Palin's subsidy of a Canadian
company for a pipeline project that will probably never be built that's in
competition with a private industry effort.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_gas_pipeline
TB
Chuck Norris
<linu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Bruce S wrote:
>> Don Bradner wrote:
>>> I almost choked when I heard her give her reason for allowing further
>>> settlements on Palestinian land:
>>>
>>> "I believe the Jewish settlements should be allowed to be expanded
>>> upon, because that population of Israel is going to grow"
>>>
>>> If she is fair and equitable I assume she would approve of Mexican
>>> settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican population
>>> is growing so fast?
>>
>> Actually, your analogy is backwards. Telling Isreal that they can't build
>> settlements is much closer to telling Texans that they can't build
>> settlements in Texas. Israel won that land, fair and square, in a war that
>> was not started by them, but which they won. They have every right to the
>> land, and should be, not just permitted, but encouraged, to do whatever they
>> want on it.
>>
>> And, for the record, there is no such thing as Palestinian land, the land
>> belongs to whatever country puts it's flag there.
>>
>> Bruce
>
>I believe the Ottoman Turks held the area the longest, should the fact
>that they picked the wrong side in WWI and lost the territory
>be counted NOW? Just what date in history should we pick to determine
>who owns what?
>LZ
>
Israel through "spoils of war" and Possession. The 9 points, you
know.
Just as we (the US) own the entirety of the Arizona and New Mexico
Border to Mexico. Those hispanics coming here and claiming they have
legal right to AZ and NM are blowing smoke through their bowels.
Look up Gadsden Purchase.
Chuck Norris
The US acquired the border lands through the Gadsden Purchase, not
war.
Chuck Norris
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>
>She is not smarter than the average person.
>
>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>
>
>I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy with
>the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the two, I'd
>choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics, *he* is smart.
I have seen no indication that he is smart. We have only tales that
he was a scholar in college. No proof, not one word of agreement from
his contemporaries in either college or university. No grade
transcripts, no evidence of Law Review (I have heard he was given the
position, not earned) He certainly was not published, which is
unusual for the head of LR.
He seems to have NO understanding of the Constitution of the US. I
base that on the number of acts that, were they to be challenged in a
court would/will be tossed. I suspect his health care bill will be
challenged and tossed.
He is a good speaker (although shrill) when fed the words but his
ability to think on his feet is horrible and he would have scored
poorly in any moot court or trial competition. His halting style of
speech drives me bananas and I have to turn him off.
Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris
<kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>bill horne wrote:
>> Janet Wilder wrote:
>>> JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
>>>> Listen to her talk and tell me she isn't a smart woman.
>>>
>>> She is not smarter than the average person.
>>>
>>>> I wish she was president today instead of the empty shirt we have.
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM7Xhg0WIbU&feature=player_embedded
>>>>
>>>
>>> I, for one, am quite glad she is not our president. I'm not happy with
>>> the one we have, but, if it came down to a choice between the two, I'd
>>> choose him. Though I disagree with much of his politics, *he* is smart.
>>>
>>
>> If he's smart, it's not translating to his job.
>>
>That might be very true. He does know the difference between Iran and
>Iraq, however.
Can you find them on a map?
What are the borders of each?
Lone Haranguer
>
> "Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7mqno2F...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
>> to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
>> infrastructure project in North American history – to help lead our
>> country to energy independence.
>>
>> And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
>
> http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=18&path=A/AK_PIPELINE_PROJECTS
>>
>>
> LZ
>>
> Just a pipe dream with NG under $ 5.00 it will remain a pipe dream for
> many years to come, oh BTW governor Frank Murkowski is the one that
> proposed that pipe dream first.
Yep. Obviously we should wait until another shortage and then pull out
the blueprints.
Even a squirrel is smart enough to store acorns for when he needs them.
It's called planning ahead.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> There's something wonderfully backward about the same people who are
> weeping over industry bailouts applauding Palin's subsidy of a Canadian
> company for a pipeline project that will probably never be built that's in
> competition with a private industry effort.
>
On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that the Canadian company
TransCanada Corp., was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[9
***************
Why subsidize companies that aren't in compliance and can't get a permit?
BTW, where does Alaska get its income from? The oil companies.
LZ
Bruce S
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:50:42 -0500, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)"
> <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Don Bradner wrote:........If she is fair and equitable I assume she
>> would approve of Mexican
>> settlements on Arizona and Texas lands because the Mexican
>> population is growing so fast?
>>
>>
>> If Mexico won those parts of Arizona and Texas in a war then it
>> would be fine if they settle there.
>
> The US acquired the border lands through the Gadsden Purchase, not
> war.
It may be true that Mexico sold us the land, however, the fact that our Army
had kicked their ass all the way from the Rio Grande to Mexico city and was
occupying Mexico City at the time may have contributed to Mexico's
willingness to make the sale.
Bruce
Technobarbarian
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>> There's something wonderfully backward about the same people who are
>> weeping over industry bailouts applauding Palin's subsidy of a Canadian
>> company for a pipeline project that will probably never be built that's
>> in competition with a private industry effort.
>>
> **************
> On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that the Canadian company TransCanada
> Corp., was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[9
> ***************
> Why subsidize companies that aren't in compliance and can't get a permit?
I swear, you're getting dimmer by the day. They were only going to
subsidize one company regradless of the number of qualified applicants. Only
having one qualified applicant was not good news for this plan. Considering
the amount of money at stake it's a red flag that something's wrong,
especially when two major oil companies are saying they can do it without
the subsidy.
>
> BTW, where does Alaska get its income from? The oil companies.
Well, heck, by this logic it's ok to take the tax dollars the
government got from all the other automakers to subsidize GM. I guess it
must be ok to use the tax dollars we got from the oil companies to bail out
GM too. Or do just about any other damn silly thing with those dollars for
that matter. I don't know where I got the idea that you were some sort of
strict 'free enterprise' kind of guy.
TB
Lone Haranguer
interesting book on that campaign, written from the perspective of
an army officer involved in the campaign. I'm drawing a blank on the
title though. I may have posted the title when I finished the book.
LZ
Max
"JerryD(upstateNY)" <m...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:he8i3c$sjm$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Max wrote: You were really impressed??
>
> I am not saying that video proved she is the smartest woman alive.
> If you listen to lefties talk, she is too dumb to put words together to
> make a sentence.
> Whether you agree with what she is saying or not, you have to agree that
> she can talk without a teleprompter telling her what to say. (unlike
> Obama)
> The only reason she s being trashed all the time in the MSM, is the left
> is scared to death of her.
> hehehehehehe
> --
> JerryD(upstateNY)
I don't think she's as dumb as a lot of the folks in DC but let me ask you
this:
Would you like to see her as president?
Not as opposed to some asshole.
Not as opposed to some socialist.
Not in comparison to any particular individual who might currently be in
consideration.
Just: Do you think she would make a good president?
Max
Bruce S
When we reached Mexico City, we should have forced an unconditional
surrender, and claimed all of Mexico as U.S. territory.
Bruce
Lone Haranguer
> "Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7mr4jgF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> There's something wonderfully backward about the same people who are
>>> weeping over industry bailouts applauding Palin's subsidy of a Canadian
>>> company for a pipeline project that will probably never be built that's
>>> in competition with a private industry effort.
>>>
>> **************
>> On January 5, 2008, Palin announced that the Canadian company TransCanada
>> Corp., was the sole AGIA-compliant applicant.[9
>> ***************
>> Why subsidize companies that aren't in compliance and can't get a permit?
>
> I swear, you're getting dimmer by the day. They were only going to
> subsidize one company regradless of the number of qualified applicants.
Since only one company qualified, that made for an easy decision.
Only
> having one qualified applicant was not good news for this plan. Considering
> the amount of money at stake it's a red flag that something's wrong,
> especially when two major oil companies are saying they can do it without
> the subsidy.
Meaningless if they aren't in compliance with the requirement to win a bid.
>> BTW, where does Alaska get its income from? The oil companies.
>
> Well, heck, by this logic it's ok to take the tax dollars the
> government got from all the other automakers to subsidize GM.
Do you know what "in compliance" means? Doesn't sound like it.
There is no comparison with the GM bailout. That's just another of your
attempts at topic diversion.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
I'd say she's a lot brighter than Joe Biden who is only one heartbeat
away from being president.
I think she would pick a far better class of people than Obama has
picked to carry out his agenda.
As I told people before the election, it isn't a matter of Obama being
smarter than McCain, it's who would be better
for our country. It's not Obama.
LZ
Bruce S
Not a reasonable question. Nothing happens in a vacuum, including electing
presidents. Therefore, it is not possible to accurately consider the
question in a vacuum. It always has been, and always will be, a question of
which of the two candidates do you prefer.
Placing her against any liberal in the country, I would choose Sara Palin.
Placing her against Ronald Reagan (if he was still available) I would choose
Reagan. She falls some where on the continuum as better than any Democrat
we have had in the last century, better than a few of the Republicans, and
not as good a choice as a couple other Republicans.
If I was giving her a grade (the way she gave Obama a 4 out of 10) I would
give her some where in the 7.5 range, and while I would prefer a 10,
sometimes you have to take what you can get. In the last election, I would
have put Fred Thompson a lot higher than her, and would have settled for
Rudy (or as it turned out, I would have settled for McCain rather than
0bama, even though I really disliked McCain).
In the end, while I would prefer someone with a little more seasoning, and
someone who has worked on national and international issues a little more, I
remain convinced that virtually any intelligent conservative/libertarian,
who is willing to surround him/her self with good advisors, and listen to
them, could do the job. And that includes Sara.
Bruce
Technobarbarian
LOL, the process was set up to deliberately exclude the companies are
producing the natural gas the pipeline will carry. Which is really back
asswards when you look at the economics of the situation. And it gets
weirder than that. Here's a pretty complete summary:
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2008/10/26
A couple of snippets:
"Despite Palin's boast of a smart and fair bidding process, the AP found
that her team crafted terms that favored only a few independent pipeline
companies and ultimately benefited the winner, TransCanada Corp.
And contrary to the ballyhoo, there's no guarantee the pipeline will ever be
built; at a minimum, any project is years away, as TransCanada must first
overcome major financial and regulatory hurdles.
In interviews and a review of records, the AP found:
* Instead of creating a process that would attract many potential
builders, Palin slanted the terms away from an important group - the global
energy giants that own the rights to the gas.
* Despite promises and legal guidance not to talk directly with
potential bidders, Palin had meetings or phone calls with nearly every major
candidate, including TransCanada.
* The leader of Palin's pipeline team had been a partner at a lobbying
firm where she worked on behalf of a TransCanada subsidiary. Also, that
woman's former business partner at the lobbying firm was TransCanada's lead
private lobbyist on the pipeline deal, interacting with legislators in the
weeks before the vote to grant TransCanada the contract. Plus, a former
TransCanada executive served as an outside consultant to Palin's pipeline
team.
* Under a different set of rules four years earlier, TransCanada had
offered to build the pipeline without a state subsidy; under Palin, the
company could receive a maximum $500 million."
"In January 2007, Palin spoke the first of at least two times to Vice
President Dick Cheney, the Bush administration's point person on energy
issues, according to calendars obtained by the AP through a public records
request. Cheney's staff pressed the Palin administration to draw in the
energy companies, said current and former state officials involved in those
discussions.
As the governor's approach unfolded in the spring of 2007, there were signs
it was skewed in a different direction.
Palin said she saw problems if the firms that own the gas also owned the
pipeline. They could manipulate the market or charge prohibitive fees to
smaller exploration firms, discouraging competition.
Several important requirements in the legislation were unpalatable to the
big oil companies. In the talks under Murkowski, the firms asked that the
rates for the gas production tax and royalties be fixed for 45 years; Palin
refused to consider setting rates for that long.
Under the Palin process, the pipeline firms had an advantage because they
simply pass along taxes paid by oil and gas producers.
Oil company officials warned lawmakers they wouldn't participate under those
terms. Still, in a near unanimous vote, the Legislature passed the Alaska
Gasline Inducement Act in May 2007, generally as written by Palin's pipeline
team.
Once the state issued its request for proposals on July 2, 2007, the level
of communication between the government and potential bidders was supposed
to decrease drastically, so that no one would be accused of gaining unfair
advantage. State lawyers advised public officials to keep their distance,
and bidders were told to submit questions on a Web site where answers could
be seen by all.
Several of the state's gas line team members interviewed by AP said they had
no contact with possible bidders. But Palin had conversations with
executives at most of the major potential bidders during that period,
according to her calendars.
While the calendars don't detail what was discussed, the documents indicate
that the pipeline was the subject of the discussions, or that the
conversations occurred immediately after a briefing with Palin's pipeline
team.
When she was in Michigan for a National Governors Association summit in late
July 2007, Palin and her team met executives from Williams Co., a pipeline
builder that ended up not bidding.
"The purpose of the meeting was to more fully understand the details of the
project, which we were still evaluating at the time," company spokeswoman
Julie Gentz said in a statement.
TransCanada's Palmer described communication with state officials as
nonexistent.
According to the governor's official schedule, however, Palin called
TransCanada President and CEO Hal Kvisle on Aug. 8, 2007. Asked about that
call, Palmer said it was to clarify the bidding process.
Griffin said that in keeping with legal guidance, Palin never spoke in any
of the meetings about the competitive bidding process.
By the Nov. 30 submission deadline, there were five applications. But the
state disqualified four for failing to satisfy the bill's requirements.
That left TransCanada.
The Canadian giant had been pursuing an Alaska pipeline since at least 2004,
when the company negotiated a deal with Rutherford that the state ended up
shelving. While the details remain confidential, six people familiar with
the terms told the AP that TransCanada was willing to do the work then
without the large state subsidy.
In testimony this July before the state Senate, Rutherford herself confirmed
such a willingness, but described the 2004 deal as presenting a different
set of trade-offs. A state lawyer warned her not to say more, lest she
violate a confidentiality agreement.
Others who reviewed the deal think much of the $500 million will be wasted
money.
"Most definitely TransCanada got a sweetheart deal this time," said
Republican Sen. Bert Stedman, who voted against the TransCanada license.
"Where else could you get a $500 million reimbursement when you don't even
have the financing to build the pipeline?""
All of that and the Denali project is still on the table as a viable
proposal. Much is yet to be decided and AK could easily end up paying a
large chunk of change for a project that didn't happen. Here's another take
on the situation
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5g3-00bq9wjDwalz75HBxfzssF44A
As it tries to present both sides of the issue I expect that LZ will only
see one of them.
>
> There is no comparison with the GM bailout. That's just another of your
> attempts at topic diversion.
IOW you're not prepared to twist yourself into a pretzel trying to
explain the hyper-partianship of Palin = Good/Obama = Bad when they're doing
things that really aren't all that different.
TB
Lone Haranguer
While the details remain confidential, six people familiar with
> the terms told the AP that TransCanada was willing to do the work then
> without the large state subsidy.
Who are the six people who told the AP? Alaskan Democrats?
I note that that AP assigned 11 people to look for errors in Palin's
book and only 2 to read the 2000 page health care bill.
Another obvious indicator that the left-wingers are scared shitless of
Palin running for anything and are doing their best
to smear her at every opportunity.
You can cut back on the volume of your bullshit. Even a little bit of
the smell carries a long distance. Commondreams.org is less
reliable than Pravda under Stalin.
LZ
Max
LOL . You didn't finish reading my post, did you.
Max
Technobarbarian
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>
> While the details remain confidential, six people familiar with
>> the terms told the AP that TransCanada was willing to do the work then
>> without the large state subsidy.
>
> Who are the six people who told the AP? Alaskan Democrats?
>
> I note that that AP assigned 11 people to look for errors in Palin's book
> and only 2 to read the 2000 page health care bill.
>
> Another obvious indicator that the left-wingers are scared shitless of
> Palin running for anything and are doing their best
> to smear her at every opportunity.
LOL, cherrypick any poll you like. They all same the same thing, "She's
not even in the running". She's gone from being a politician to being a
professional victim. I expect to see her run for office in 2012, but only to
refresh her standing as a professional victim. She has to sell more books to
live the lifestyle to which she wishes to become accustomed, but she's
clearly not into long term employment. Palin is the best thing Obama has
going for him. Best case scenario she makes Republicans look like a bunch of
idiots by association. Worst case scenario she runs on a third party ticket.
Either way it's a win/win for Obama.
Have you read her book? It's a hoot. Everything is God's will, except
for the parts she didn't like, which were the fault of mean nasty people.
Absolutely nothing is her fault. I expect we'll see entire websites devoted
to nothing but the easily proven whoppers she tells. For those who are
interested it's easy to find them by the boat load.
>
> You can cut back on the volume of your bullshit. Even a little bit of the
> smell carries a long distance. Commondreams.org is less
> reliable than Pravda under Stalin.
Hey, read as much or as little as you like; no one is holding a gun to
your head. But, hey, thanks. I appreciate all my fans.
TB
Max
news:00843fb1$0$26895$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
"Nothing happens in a vacuum".
Mind if I save that quote?
"And that includes Sara".
Or even Sarah Plain?
Max
Max
God forbid!!!!
Max
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>
>Under her leadership, the state invested $5 billion in savings,
>overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits
>Program to provide support for low-income older Alaskans. She created
>Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to oversee and maintain oil
>and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change
>Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
>
>During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration
>passed major pieces of legislation. She came to office promising
>landmark ethics reform to end the culture of self-dealing, and today,
>that ethics reform is the law.
>
>Wow landmark ethics reform, and then gets cut up in her own ethics and
>having to quit.
She was hit with about a dozen frivilous ethics charges, all of which
were tossed. And this by known Dems in Alaska. It cost her more than
$500,000 to fight them. On a salary of about 100K/year. Could you
handle that kind of shit.
>
>Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
>to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
>on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline – the largest private-sector
>infrastructure project in North American history – to help lead our
>country to energy independence.
>
>And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
Do you really believe she should build the GD thing herself. Jesus,
you really are an idiot.
>
>
>When oil and gas prices went up dramatically and the state revenues
>rose, Governor Palin sent a large share of that revenue directly back to
>the people of Alaska. She also suspended the state's fuel tax.
>*********************
>
>This is odd, then why would Alaska have the highest fuel prices?
>
Only a couple, if any refineries PLUS, IDIOT, the transportation
charges in that state are bad since the weather is nasty and the
distances to drive are enormous. You have never been there, have you?
The more you post the more ignorant you prove yourself to be.
Chuck Norris
wrote:
>
>"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:7mqno2F...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
>> to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
>> on a $40 billion natural gas pipeline – the largest private-sector
>> infrastructure project in North American history – to help lead our
>> country to energy independence.
>>
>> And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
>
>http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=18&path=A/AK_PIPELINE_PROJECTS
>>
>>
>LZ
>>
>Just a pipe dream with NG under $ 5.00 it will remain a pipe dream for many
>years to come, oh BTW governor Frank Murkowski is the one that proposed that
>pipe dream first.
I was in Wyoming last summer and was parked next to some pipeline
workers that were packing to head up there.
You should quit while you're ahead.
Technobarbarian
"Chuck Norris" <hamgu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ko5hg598f6gursmqh...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:44:40 -0800, "Pella" <gala...@sanford.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Under her leadership, the state invested $5 billion in savings,
>>overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits
>>Program to provide support for low-income older Alaskans. She created
>>Alaska's Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to oversee and maintain oil
>>and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change
>>Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
>>
>>During her first legislative session, Governor Palin's administration
>>passed major pieces of legislation. She came to office promising
>>landmark ethics reform to end the culture of self-dealing, and today,
>>that ethics reform is the law.
>>
>>Wow landmark ethics reform, and then gets cut up in her own ethics and
>>having to quit.
>
> She was hit with about a dozen frivilous ethics charges, all of which
> were tossed. And this by known Dems in Alaska. It cost her more than
> $500,000 to fight them. On a salary of about 100K/year. Could you
> handle that kind of shit.
LOL, yet more disinformation Chuck. The most expensive one she filed
herself. Her numbers are bullshit. And, she was NOT cleared of all charges.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/07/palin-misrepresents-ethics-complaint-dismissal-record/
Plug: Palin, ethics, and lies into Google and you get all sorts of hits
TB
Lone Haranguer
I did.
">Not in comparison to any particular individual who might currently be
in consideration."
Who did I mention that was in consideration to be president? Obama's
second term?
">Just: Do you think she would make a good president?"
I gave the reasons she would be, didn't I?
She wouldn't surround herself with known terrorists and tax cheats.
She would be better for the country for that reason alone.
LZ
Technobarbarian
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:37:22 -0800, "Pella" <gala...@sanford.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:7mqno2F...@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> Governor Palin took on the oil companies and began a competitive process
>>> to construct a gas pipeline. Because of her leadership, work has begun
>>> infrastructure project in North American history - to help lead our
>>> country to energy independence.
>>>
>>> And this pipeline is where now? something else se quit?
>>
>>http://www.kodiakdailymirror.com/?pid=18&path=A/AK_PIPELINE_PROJECTS
>>>
>>>
>>LZ
>>>
>>Just a pipe dream with NG under $ 5.00 it will remain a pipe dream for
>>many
>>years to come, oh BTW governor Frank Murkowski is the one that proposed
>>that
>>pipe dream first.
>
>
> I was in Wyoming last summer and was parked next to some pipeline
> workers that were packing to head up there.
>
> You should quit while you're ahead.
> --
You should quit while you're behind, but we know that isn't going to
happen. While it's entirely plausible that you met pipeline workers headed
to AK, or any other state; even under the most optomistic forecast
absolutely no one is going to be turning a wrench on AK's natural gas
pipeline until sometime well into the next decade.
TB
Lone Haranguer
> "Lone Haranguer" <linu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> You can cut back on the volume of your bullshit. Even a little bit of the
>> smell carries a long distance. Commondreams.org is less
>> reliable than Pravda under Stalin.
>
> Hey, read as much or as little as you like; no one is holding a gun to
> your head. But, hey, thanks. I appreciate all my fans.
I even read the "wanted" posters in the post office. Does that make me
a fan? Don't let your head swell up too much.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
Give your imagination a little space.
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> "Chuck Norris" <hamgu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> She was hit with about a dozen frivilous ethics charges, all of which
>> were tossed. And this by known Dems in Alaska. It cost her more than
>> $500,000 to fight them. On a salary of about 100K/year. Could you
>> handle that kind of shit.
>
> LOL, yet more disinformation Chuck. The most expensive one she filed
> herself. Her numbers are bullshit. And, she was NOT cleared of all charges.
>
> http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/07/07/palin-misrepresents-ethics-complaint-dismissal-record/
>
> Plug: Palin, ethics, and lies into Google and you get all sorts of hits
How many will we get if we plug in your name and "S&M sex club Tucson".
From the article:
"Now, in fairness, by entering into a plea bargain settlement agreement
with the state, and agreeing to promptly repay the
travel allowances, Palin was able to have the official record read that
there was no abiding ethics violation, but the simple fact is if there
was no wrongdoing, she would not have had to enter an agreement and
repay the funds."
So the very same thinking applies to Clinton and his confession that he
committed perjury?
So why are Democrats still denying this simple fact?
LZ
>
> TB
>
>
Max
I don't think Romney would surround himself with "known terrorists and tax
cheats" either.
But that's making a comparison and that's not what I asked Jerry D.
Max