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Technobarbarian

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Feb 7, 2021, 11:50:19 AM2/7/21
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https://www.beachconnection.net/news/ghost_forest_feb020521.php

Published 02/05/21 at 7:56 PM PDT
By Oregon Coast Beach Connection staff

Eerie, Mind-Bending Ghost Forests Appear Around Oregon Coast

(Oregon Coast) – Parts of the central Oregon coast are thick with a new –
yet extremely old – sight. 4,000-year-old ghost forests have popped up in
numerous sections as sand levels there get scoured out by winter storms
and the recent king tides. (Above: ghost forest stump at Seal Rock)

These ghost forests are older and much more interesting than those that
show year-round at Neskowin. Those at Neskowin are only 2,000 years old,
while many of those found around the Newport area right now are 4,000
years or more in age. They are sometimes spooky in appearance, and for
their reminder of what climate change is capable of. Then their origin
story is a mind-bending trip back in time filled with interesting
scientific twists and turns.

What you’ll see are either small stumps that look especially ragged, some
of which may be tilted on their side, or they’ll be large root systems
lying half in the sand with no discernible tops to them. Ghost forests are
not petrified forests – they’re not solid rock. They were created by some
gradual change in the landscape where sand and / or soil enveloped them,
killing them by choking off the oxygen.'
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TB

film...@gmail.com

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Feb 7, 2021, 4:47:37 PM2/7/21
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If you've seen one ghost forest, you've seen them all.....

Ronald Reagan

Technobarbarian

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Feb 7, 2021, 5:38:37 PM2/7/21
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Wrong again Ronnie.

https://oregondiscovery.com/lava-cast-forest

• Lava Cast Forest was established as the geological special interest area
• Hot molten lava engulfed the ancient trees and created solid tree molds

https://apnews.com/article/1c7e230a4635475ca1468a94f8bfda88

"SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP) — Mysterious holes that forced the closure of a
massive dune at an Indiana national park after a 6-year-old boy fell into
one and nearly died were caused by sand-covered trees that left cavities
behind as they decayed over the years, researchers have found.

Fungi on the covered trees formed a sort of cement that allowed the sand
to keep its hollowed out shape as the wood decayed and collapsed inward,
leaving holes more than 10 feet (3 meters) deep in the dune known as Mount
Baldy at the Indiana Dunes National Lakeshore, according to a study
published in December by Erin Argyilan, who heads Indiana University
Northwest’s department of geosciences. She said the phenomenon likely
explains similar holes found in migrating dunes in Oregon and Michigan."

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zippoz

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Feb 7, 2021, 10:49:08 PM2/7/21
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If a tree falls on a ghost was there really a forest at all?

> The more you know, the less you believe.


Ralph E Lindberg

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Feb 8, 2021, 10:37:34 AM2/8/21
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I would hardly call a mega thrust earthquake a "gradual" change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neskowin_Ghost_Forest

There is one in Washington that dates to exactly 26 Jan 1700 (tsunami
records in Japan)

Cascadia mega-thurst (roughly 9.0 earth quakes) happen roughly every
800 years, they have debris fields off the coast that help with this
dating

Technobarbarian

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Feb 8, 2021, 1:31:13 PM2/8/21
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https://www.beachconnection.net/news/neskowin_ghost_forest_origin.php

"Explanations of Neskowin Ghost Forest Wrong, Say Oregon Coast Geologists"

"Neskowin, Oregon) – Those inimitable and freaky stumps of mystery on the
north Oregon coast: the ghost forests of Neskowin. They’re a lively point
of discussion and publicity for a number of reasons, mainly because
they’re largely the only ones visible all year.

They’re also the subject of bad information and rumor.

It turns out, just about every piece out there on the Internet about them
has it wrong. Very wrong. And it’s ticking off some geologists. However,
digging deeper into the truth about these funky finds in the sand also
reveals other wonders: like a bunch of ghost forests no one knows about
and one example in Tillamook County that goes back a whopping 80,000 years.

This correction comes from one of the scientists who discovered what was
really going on: Dr. Curt Peterson.

When it comes to Neskowin’s ghost forest, somehow every publication in
Oregon and elsewhere has the erroneous, misleading idea that these were
caused by some sudden quake dropping the ground and immersing them, thus
killing them. While it’s true they were killed by sand encroaching around
them, and then paradoxically preserved by that sand by getting cut off
from the decaying effects of oxygen and microbes, how this happened is
different than anyone has been telling you."
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Albert

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Feb 8, 2021, 6:32:57 PM2/8/21
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"Choking off their oxygen"???

Don't all plants on earth (land and sea) take in carbon dioxide and
make (emit) oxygen.That's why the slash and burn that's going on is so
dangerous to our environment???

Technobarbarian

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Feb 8, 2021, 7:36:27 PM2/8/21
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Good catch. I suspect their staff writers are not scientists. I got
to wondering about their expert. After all we have a Harvard college
professor who claims a rock rocketing through space is proof of
intelligent life on other planets. And all sorts of people saying all
sorts of crazy stuff. It looks like Dr. Peterson knows what he's talking
about. He's been on the faculty at Portland State College for a long time
and has written a lot of papers on the geology of the coast in the PNW.

EMERITUS FACULTY

Curt D. Peterson: Sedimentology, Stratigraphy, Coastal Processes.

https://www.gsoc.org/news/2014/6/9/carols-article-on-the-last-lecture

"Studying The Columbia River and Its Sediments
June 12, 2014"

https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/Curt-D-
Peterson-73020797

"Curt D. Peterson's research while affiliated with Portland State
University and other places"

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zippoz

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Feb 8, 2021, 9:14:03 PM2/8/21
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https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/garden-how-to/info/can-plants-live-without-oxygen.htm

>>

Faith doesn't move mountains or keep you grounded. That'll be plate
tectonics and gravity.

Frank Howell

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Feb 11, 2021, 2:33:43 PM2/11/21
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Yep, ever since science and physics were created they have been kicking
Faith's ass ever since.

--
Frank Howell
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