Ford 460 mileage
Ken Carroll
out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
see?
Ken Carroll
P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
Roger Deal
Probably is normal. I have a B-van which weights in at 8500lbs and I
get 8-12 depending on what I am pulling. I expect that your Tioga is
heavier than that.
Roger Deal
Kenneth Murphy
: I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and 7.5mpg
: out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
: emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
: brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
: see?
: Ken Carroll
: P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
Ken,
I have an 83 27' Jamboree with a 460 and usually pull an enclosed
14' moto-trailer. I average 6.2 mpg, best mpg of 8.20 and worst of
4.18 mpg. The 8.2 had a steady tailwind across Wyoming.
BTW, I have a Tcl program that logs miles and prints mpg between stops,
and calculates an overall average, total gas usage, total miles, etc,
if anyone is interested.
--
O
<M>erfMan aka kmur...@ford.com
_/ \_
Disclaimer: I speak only for myself and not for Ford Motor Company
Wayne Nelson
Towing a trailer and driving at 65 would account for the other 1 mpg.
Drive slower, I know its a pain, but what choice, pay more?
Tom McWilliams
where I can't, tow about 3500 lbs. worth of Jeep Cherokee behind, and
usually have the generator sucking gas to power the air conditioner.
Mostly drive in fairly hilly terrain as I usually go north from Phoenix.
I'm getting 6.0 to 7.0, so I'd guess what you're getting is par for the
course!
Tom in 100 degree (not very hot for this time of year) Phoenix
Ray Bailey
>
> I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and 7.5mpg
> out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
> emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
> brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
> see?
> Ken Carroll
>
> P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
Ken: Sounds about normal. I have a Ford bubble-top camper van with a
460, and a 27' Class A GM 454 - both average 8 to 8 1/2 mpg. Only real
difference; I drive the motorhome a bit slower.
Ray Bailey
r...@mlode.com
KAY ALLEN
> I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and 7.5mpg
> out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
> emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
> brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
> see?
> Ken Carroll
>
> P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
I have a 93 Tioga Montara (29 ft) with the 460 and the 4speed OD
transmission. It typically averages about 9 mpg, with as little as the
high 7s and as much as the high 10s, depending on conditions. I usually
run about 60 mph and don't pull anything.
--
--
Kay Allen
kal...@tpoint.net
Redmond Young
: I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and 7.5mpg
: out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
: emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
: brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
: see?
: Ken Carroll
: P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
I have a '86 El Dorado (21') with the 460. I also get around 6-7 mpg.
I don't tow anything, but I do most of the driving in hilly terrain.
Not only that, but my engine is carbureted (is yours fuel injected ?)
and I only have a 3-speed automatic tranny, rather than a 4-spd with
overdrive. My friend has a 27' Tioga '91, and he claims he gets 10 mpg
from his 460. But he has Fuel injection and overdrive.
Red
Donald Tharp
>
> I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and 7.5mpg
> out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
> emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
> brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
> see?
> Ken Carroll
>
> P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
Owned a 94 Tioga Montara 29Z with the 460 EFI.
Got a low of 7.5mpg crossing KS and WY in a head wind and the high of 10.6
with a tailwind in WY. the average was around 9.6mpg. I wasn't towing
anything and used OD when possible (in CO that isn't very often).
New 96 Southwind 34L has the same engine, but the weight of the MH
brought the mileage down to 7.4 with a mix of towing and nontowing.
Expected, since the weight is much higher. Added the Jardine exhaust and
mileage went up slightly to 8mpg but the biggest difference is I can leave it
in OD even in CO. When we slow down the mileage does go up, unfortunately
we're the young crowd with very little time to get there, but we get there.
don tharp
Ken Carroll
I thought I'd post what people who mailed me directly said and add it to
the news responses for other Ford 460 owners to chew on.
It seems that on the average people get 6.5 - 8 mpg. Some folks
with the 4 speed auto transmission can get closer to 10 under good
conditions. One person mentioned that low tire pressure can kill mileage
(mine is OK, 60 psi as I recall) and another asked if mine was
carburetored or fuel injected, suggesting that the FI vehicles might do
better (It is fuel injected).
One other thing that I heard at an MX race recently was from a guy who
claimed that he also got around 7 mpg until he installed a twin exhaust
system with twin catalytic converters, he claimed an immediate
improvement of 2mpg with this mod. This does sound a bit fanciful, do any
of you guys have any knowledge that would support or squash that idea?
Regards
Ken Carroll.
fpo...@mail.atcon.com
>Ken Carroll <kcar...@sirius.com> wrote:
>>I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and 7.5mpg
>>out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
>>emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
>>brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
>>see?
>>Ken Carroll
>>
>>P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
>Probably is normal. I have a B-van which weights in at 8500lbs and I
>get 8-12 depending on what I am pulling. I expect that your Tioga is
>heavier than that.
>Roger Deal
Ken,
I have a 1986 28ft C class with a 460 and on the US gallon (I'm
Canadian) I get an average of 9 mpg and in Canada it has been as high
as 11.3 mpg. I tow a Honda Civic. I found that if I drive at 55 mph I
get this mileage, if I increase my speed to 57 mph,my mileage drops. I
also use only synthetic oil (Syntec) it is more expensive but well
worth the money. We travel to Florida in the winter, so we are going
from one extreme temperature to the other (from Nova Scotia) so I use
5W50. I also have my ignition wires and cap checked regularly. Good
belts on the engine are a must, and a clean engine and exterior of
your motorhome all helps. I love my 460.
Frank
Donald J. Dickson
Ken Carroll (kcar...@sirius.com) writes:
>
> One other thing that I heard at an MX race recently was from a guy who
> claimed that he also got around 7 mpg until he installed a twin exhaust
> system with twin catalytic converters, he claimed an immediate
> improvement of 2mpg with this mod. This does sound a bit fanciful, do any
> of you guys have any knowledge that would support or squash that idea?
I don't know about the mileage but if the new GM trucks are any
indication, you can't go wrong with a less restrictive exhaust system..
They have increased muffler size by a factor of about 3 in the last few
yearsand I think the 350 and 454 both have 3" exhaust pipes.
Cheers, Don Dickson
--
Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students!
Anthony R Romao
Ken Carroll <kcar...@sirius.com> wrote:
> It seems that on the average people get 6.5 - 8 mpg. Some folks
>with the 4 speed auto transmission can get closer to 10 under good
>conditions. One person mentioned that low tire pressure can kill mileage
>(mine is OK, 60 psi as I recall) and another asked if mine was
>carburetored or fuel injected, suggesting that the FI vehicles might do
>better (It is fuel injected).
Our 1995 460 FI averages about 8 at 70 MPH.
We can increase this to 9.5 at 55 MPH, and when trolling at 55 MPH
without the A/C, go to 10 MPG.
Speed is probably the most important factor in MPG.
Anthony & Loretta "Don't regret getting older
Retired in Largo, Florida many are denied the privilege"
ar...@worldnet.att.net
Clarke Maxwell
On Jun 28, 1996 22:07:49 in article <Re: Ford 460 mileage>, 'Tom McWilliams
<at...@asuvm.inre.asu.edu>' wrote:
>I've got the 460 in a '96 32 foot Bounder. Drive 60-65 except on hills
>where I can't, tow about 3500 lbs. worth of Jeep Cherokee behind, and
>usually have the generator sucking gas to power the air conditioner.
>Mostly drive in fairly hilly terrain as I usually go north from Phoenix.
>I'm getting 6.0 to 7.0, so I'd guess what you're getting is par for the
>course!
--
I used to have a 25' Concord with a Ford 390 and I usually got 7 or 8 MPG (
unless I was hauling a big trailer into a stiff wind)
Now I have a GMC 4905 bus with a DD 8V71 and I get about 7 MPG but with 3
times the gross weight.
Clarke
On-the-Road in Mountain Home, TX
Clarke Maxwell
John Summers
Donald J. Dickson wrote:
>
> Ken Carroll (kcar...@sirius.com) writes:
> >
> > One other thing that I heard at an MX race recently was from a guy who
> > claimed that he also got around 7 mpg until he installed a twin exhaust
> > system with twin catalytic converters, he claimed an immediate
> > improvement of 2mpg with this mod. This does sound a bit fanciful, do any
> > of you guys have any knowledge that would support or squash that idea?
>
> I don't know about the mileage but if the new GM trucks are any
> indication, you can't go wrong with a less restrictive exhaust system..
> They have increased muffler size by a factor of about 3 in the last few
> yearsand I think the 350 and 454 both have 3" exhaust pipes.
I had a Ford 460 and had dual exhausts on it. The truck ran at 8mpg
(give or take a couple of 10th's) with or without the trailer. I pulled
a 40' 5th whell for the life of the truck (287,000 miles).
--
John
Ultra-Vision
jsum...@ultravision.net
Bob Longdon
Ken,
I too have a 460 EFI in my 40' 1992 Bounder. My MPG average around 5.5
pulling a Honda Accord on a dolly. Driving speeds on the interstates are
60-65. I am interested in hearing more about your Tcl program.
Bob
Gary E. Spalding
In article <31D366...@sirius.com>, kcar...@sirius.com says...
>
>I have an 89 Tioga Arrow (23ft) with a 460. I get between 6.5 and
7.5mpg
>out of this beast. Is this normal? The motor passed smog, it does not
>emit any smoke, it runs cleanly and starts first turn of the key, the
>brakes are not binding... Can you guys out there advise me of what you
>see?
>Ken Carroll
>
>P.S. I typically drive at 60-65mph towing a small dirt bike trailer.
Ken, I believe what you are seeing is normal for the spped you drive
and, very importantly, for the model year of your MH. You don't say,
but I believe the 87 ws w/o EOD. My experience with a 1993 SeaBreeze on
a F53 chassis with actual weight of about 15K pounds is that I typically
get 8.2-8.5 towing a Geo Tracker (wieght 2360). Either I'm luckyer
than most or For has done better in recent years.
Gary