OT..... Who would you vote for?
Hank
Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
Hank
Thats Me
wrote:
>As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>
None of the above, they are all jerks and charlatans.
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LonVanOstran
I would vote for ANYBODY running against Obama.
We couldn't do worse.
Lon
richard
Neither Obama nor Cain.
will sill
"LonVanOstran" <Lvano...@gmail.com> wrote
> I would vote for ANYBODY running against Obama.
>
> We couldn't do worse.
You have a lot of company. I would even (ugh!) vote for 0bamacare-lite
Romney if he succeeds in buying the GOP nomination. But my pick this week
is Herman.
Will
Bob Hatch
You first, then I'll answer.
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Mike Hendrix at dot
wrote:
>As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>
>Hank
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#1 Ron Paul
#2 Herman Cain
I also liked Chris Christie before he bowed out.
mike
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Janet Wilder
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:24:10 -0700 (PDT), Hank<nineb...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>
>> Hank
> --------------------------------------
>
> #1 Ron Paul
>
> #2 Herman Cain
>
> I also liked Chris Christie before he bowed out.
>
> mike
ditto
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Bruce S
Be more specific - are you asking who we would vote for if the general
election was held today, or are you asking who we would vote for in a
primary election to run against 0bama (or is it an all inclusive
question about both elections)?
If we are talking about the General election, any Conservative or
Libertarian running against 0bama. Hell, if my cat was on the ballot, I
would chose her over 0bama (and even for a cat, she's not very smart,
but still smarter than 0bama).
If we are talking about the Primary election, Rick Santorum and Newt
Gingrich are the best qualified candidates, but don't stand a snowball's
chance in Hell; Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman have made statements that
demonstrate that they are not qualified for the position; nobody
outside of New Mexico has heard of Gary Johnson, so his qualifications
are meaningless; Bachmann is sinking faster than the Titanic; and that
leaves us with Cain, Perry and Romney. I like Cain, but he is not
politician enough to get elected. Perry might have a chance, but needs
to improve his performance in the debates or he will watch the general
election as just another voter. With that in mind, I will probably be
left with a meaningless vote for Romney, although if I still lived in
Nevada, and was registered as Republican rather than Libertarian, I
would vote for Santorum.
--
Bruce
Max
news:38c610ef-8524-420c...@f5g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>
> Hank
He/She hasn't announced yet.
Max
Hank
>
> Be more specific - are you asking who we would vote for if the general
> election was held today, or are you asking who we would vote for in a
> primary election to run against 0bama (or is it an all inclusive
> question about both elections)?
>
> If we are talking about the General election, any Conservative or
> Libertarian running against 0bama. Hell, if my cat was on the ballot, I
> would chose her over 0bama (and even for a cat, she's not very smart,
> but still smarter than 0bama).
>
> If we are talking about the Primary election, Rick Santorum and Newt
> Gingrich are the best qualified candidates, but don't stand a snowball's
> chance in Hell; Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman have made statements that
> demonstrate that they are not qualified for the position; nobody
> outside of New Mexico has heard of Gary Johnson, so his qualifications
> are meaningless; Bachmann is sinking faster than the Titanic; and that
> leaves us with Cain, Perry and Romney. I like Cain, but he is not
> politician enough to get elected. Perry might have a chance, but needs
> to improve his performance in the debates or he will watch the general
> election as just another voter. With that in mind, I will probably be
> left with a meaningless vote for Romney, although if I still lived in
> Nevada, and was registered as Republican rather than Libertarian, I
> would vote for Santorum.
>
> --
> Bruce
Fair enough. At least you answered both parts of the general question.
Hank
Hank
> "Hank" <ninebal...@aol.com> wrote in message
LOL
Hank
cj
> We couldn't do worse.
cj
JerryD(upstateNY)
I didn't know Bush ORDERED banks to lend money to people who couldn't
possibly pay it back.
All the time, I thought Clinton did that. (Community Reinvestment Act)
And I thought it was Todd and Frank who said Fannie and Freddie were in good
shape.
I guess that was Bush too, huh ?
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
RonB
Cain seems to be the only one in the crowd who has a lick of business
sense.
Dean
wrote:
>As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>
>Hank
Cain.
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LonVanOstran
Your view of history is distorted.
Lon
Dean
wrote:
Hey fool, he didn't ask who you wouldn't vote for!
Lone Haranguer
I wish he and Cheney were back in power.
LZ
Dean
(dot) us> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:24:10 -0700 (PDT), Hank <nineb...@aol.com>
>wrote:
>
>>As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>>Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>
>>Hank
>--------------------------------------
>
>#1 Ron Paul
>
>#2 Herman Cain
>
>I also liked Chris Christie before he bowed out.
>
>mike
Paul is an idealist and believes our enemies would/will play fair. In
that regard, his willingness to eliminate our military is both foolish
and dangerous.
Bruce S
You seem to forget that Romney was CEO of Bain and Company, then Bain
Capitol before getting into politics. He was also the CEO of the 2002
Winter Olympics. I'm not really a fan of him (more bland that vanilla
pudding), but he has very good business experience.
And as for Cain, he has a good personality for the campaign (sparks
enthusiasm in other people), but an absolute lack of political
experience could be a handicap. And I really don't like his 9-9-9 plan
- the last thing we need is a federal sales tax on top of the federal
income tax.
--
Bruce
Max
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You are right Jerry, especially alluding to the fact that the whole damn
mess was started by the Democrats. But having said that you might have
added:
"The authority of the U.S. Treasury to advance funds for the purpose of
stabilizing Fannie Mae, or Freddie Mac is limited only by the amount of debt
that the entire federal government is permitted by law to commit to. The
July 30, 2008 law enabling expanded regulatory authority over Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac increased the national debt ceiling from US$ 800 billion, to a
total of US$ 10.7 Trillion in anticipation of the potential need for the
Treasury to have the flexibility to support the federal home loan banks. "
(From a bill that was passed by yours and my congresscritters and signed by
President Bush)
Max
Jenny6833A
Obama, with a sigh, if he runs. (Although Obama has his faults, every
one of the Republican wannabees is nuts.) Hillary, with enthusiasm,
if he doesn't.
:-)
Jenny
Lone Haranguer
LZ
nothermark
he is the lesser of many weevils. ;-)
Bob Hatch
I don't suppose it's ever occurred to you that you might be the one who
is nuts while they are closest to sane. (no grin)
Jenny6833A
> On 10/13/2011 6:46 PM, Jenny6833A wrote:
>
> > On Oct 13, 2:24 am, Hank<ninebal...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
> >> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>
> >> Hank
>
> > Obama, with a sigh, if he runs. (Although Obama has his faults, every
> > one of the Republican wannabees is nuts.) Hillary, with enthusiasm,
> > if he doesn't.
>
> > :-)
>
> > Jenny
>
> I don't suppose it's ever occurred to you that you might be the one who
> is nuts while they are closest to sane. (no grin)
You suppose incorrectly. But the facts speak for themselves. However
nutty I may be, that group of crazies is nuttier.
No smile
Jenny
Bob Hatch
That group might be classified as banana nut bread light. You are
Holiday Fruit Cake, heavy duty.
Bob Hatch
> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>
> Hank
Has anyone noticed that Hank has stayed in the background, safe and silent?
Lone Haranguer
> On Oct 13, 9:10 pm, Bob Hatch<bob.ha...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> On 10/13/2011 6:46 PM, Jenny6833A wrote:
>>
>>> On Oct 13, 2:24 am, Hank<ninebal...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>>>> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>
>>>> Hank
>>
>>> Obama, with a sigh, if he runs. (Although Obama has his faults, every
>>> one of the Republican wannabees is nuts.) Hillary, with enthusiasm,
>>> if he doesn't.
>>
>>> :-)
>>
>>> Jenny
>>
>> I don't suppose it's ever occurred to you that you might be the one who
>> is nuts while they are closest to sane. (no grin)
>
> You suppose incorrectly. But the facts speak for themselves.
What facts?
However
> nutty I may be, that group of crazies is nuttier.
An independent evaluation may prove differently. So far none of them have
been pushing universal nudity and a hostility to "textiles" on Usenet.
LZ
>
> No smile
>
> Jenny
will sill
"Bob Hatch" <bob....@ymail.com> wrote
> Has anyone noticed that Hank has stayed in the background, safe and
> silent?
Sorry, I did not notice. Unlike bh, I am not willing to spend my time even
glancing at posts from Hank, Mark, et al.
Whether he is safe, silent or busy marching with his fellow morons, his
thoughts don't interest me any more than the ravings of Jenny & Max.
On the topic: it matters little who we might favor today. What matters is
whether, in 2012, we vote for a Conservative American who genuinely believes
in the Constitution - or (Heaven forbid) a RINO. IMO, a repeat by 0bama is
no longer a possibiity, so it is VERY important that the GOP candidate have
integrity and ability.
Hank's ideas are as irrelevant as an NBC poll.
Will
--
The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool.
It is less likely
to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."
(Unk)
Mike Hendrix at dot
>On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:37:08 -0500, Mike Hendrix <mike (at) travellogs
>(dot) us> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:24:10 -0700 (PDT), Hank <nineb...@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>>>Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>>
>>>Hank
>>--------------------------------------
>>
>>#1 Ron Paul
>>
>>#2 Herman Cain
>>
>>I also liked Chris Christie before he bowed out.
>>
>>mike
>
>Paul is an idealist and believes our enemies would/will play fair. In
>that regard, his willingness to eliminate our military is both foolish
>and dangerous.
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"Eliminate our military".............. I think you spout BS.
Provide proof or source.
Lone Haranguer
He wouldn't "eliminate" the military but under his rule, it wouldn't be much
of a fighting force.
He's an expert on the military ya know, since he spent a couple of years on
active duty as a doctor.
His few good ideas are far outweighed by his kooky ones.
LZ
K Miller
> On 10/13/2011 10:31 PM, Jenny6833A wrote:
>>
>> You suppose incorrectly. But the facts speak for themselves. However
>> nutty I may be, that group of crazies is nuttier.
>>
>> No smile
>>
>> Jenny
>
> That group might be classified as banana nut bread light. You are
> Holiday Fruit Cake, heavy duty.
Now that's funny.
Bruce S
> On 10/13/2011 2:24 AM, Hank wrote:
>> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>
>> Hank
>
> Has anyone noticed that Hank has stayed in the background, safe and silent?
>
Four years ago there was a website (University of Wisconsin I think)
that provided questions about the reader's views on many issues. They
would ask a question, then give you quotes from every candidate and let
you choose the one that is closest to your own. When you complete the
survey, they match your choices against the candidates and tell you
which one most closely matched you.
I wish I could find a similar site this year.
--
Bruce
cj
tax cuts for the wealthy...how much? and what did the current repugs
running in last years election run on? JOBS JOBS JOBS. and what are they
more concerend with? not jobs but pushing through a socially
conservative agenda that does squat for the unemployed...its clear to
everyone that the repugs number one mission is to tank the economy so
that obama does not get reelected. why is that important? replacing the
old geezers on the supreme court that are sure to retire during the next
administrations term. thats what its all about, not jobs but supreme
court nominees.do you really think boener, or cantor give a shit about
unemployed people? WHERE ARE THE JOBS LON?? TRICKLE DOWN DOESNT WORK!!!
30 years of reganomics is a failure
cj
cj
cj
cj
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/14/hiv-positive-man-punched-by-cop_n_1011144.html
your pal, cj
Frank Howell
health care plan. We'll see how good of a politician he is if he can spin
that.
As far as Cain goes I agree, if you examine the 9-9-9 plan how do you get
low income people who don't pay Federal tax now to get onboard. Since both
you and I don't pay sales tax, why would we get on board for a Federal sales
tax, also if the Democrats get a majority in both houses it could be a
9-9-10 or more tax. That said I still see him as the dark horse, but as you
alluded to his lack of political experience it just might be a plus as the
others have a lot of political baggage. Also it would drive democrats nuts
with two blacks vying for president.
Since there is a lot of time until the primaries, who knows where this will
go, but it's possible the even Gary Johnson could have a shot if the rest of
the field self destructs.
--
Frank Howell
Lone Haranguer
WHERE ARE THE JOBS LON??
LZ
Bruce S
> Bruce S wrote:
>> On 10/13/2011 4:55 PM, RonB wrote:
>>> On Oct 13, 4:24 am, Hank<ninebal...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>>>> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>>>
>>>> Hank
>>>
>>> Cain seems to be the only one in the crowd who has a lick of business
>>> sense.
>>
>> You seem to forget that Romney was CEO of Bain and Company, then Bain
>> Capitol before getting into politics. He was also the CEO of the 2002
>> Winter Olympics. I'm not really a fan of him (more bland that vanilla
>> pudding), but he has very good business experience.
>>
>> And as for Cain, he has a good personality for the campaign (sparks
>> enthusiasm in other people), but an absolute lack of political
>> experience could be a handicap. And I really don't like his 9-9-9
>> plan - the last thing we need is a federal sales tax on top of the
>> federal income tax.
>
> Agreed, but don't forget that Romney was architect of the Massachusetts
> health care plan. We'll see how good of a politician he is if he can spin
> that.
is appropriate for states to try out new programs that would be
completely inappropriate for the feds (he is mostly right). I would be
happier if he said it sounded good at the time, but in hindsight he can
see it was a mistake - and he never says that. I also don't like that
he felt a government mandate was a good thing then - even if he rejects
it now - he has given us no reason to believe that his change of heart
is anything but political posturing. As I said, if he is the Republican
candidate, I will support him, but with the same lack of enthusiasm I
had for McCain last time.
> As far as Cain goes I agree, if you examine the 9-9-9 plan how do you get
> low income people who don't pay Federal tax now to get onboard. Since both
> you and I don't pay sales tax, why would we get on board for a Federal sales
> tax, also if the Democrats get a majority in both houses it could be a
> 9-9-10 or more tax. That said I still see him as the dark horse, but as you
> alluded to his lack of political experience it just might be a plus as the
> others have a lot of political baggage. Also it would drive democrats nuts
> with two blacks vying for president.
experienced conservative candidate would support adding a whole new
layer of taxes on top of the existing system. He would have done better
supporting a truly flat tax with no deductions. Make it the same 15% as
the capital gains tax, and promote it with 0bama's words that the very
wealthy should pay the same tax rate as plumbers and school teachers.
BTW, here is a nice web site for designing your own flat tax.
http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2011/09/design-your-own-flat-income-tax.html
But you are right that a black conservative candidate running against
0bama would drive the left nuts - it would be fun to watch the Democrat
racism in action as they cal him an Oreo.
> Since there is a lot of time until the primaries, who knows where this will
> go, but it's possible the even Gary Johnson could have a shot if the rest of
> the field self destructs.
start. With the first one coming on Jan 3, that is only 2.5 months
away. I think that before 2016 the Republicans need to change their
rules so that no state can hold a primary before April 1. That would
provide plenty of time to really sort out the candidates and get the
best one.
--
Bruce
Lone Haranguer
LZ
Lone Haranguer
> On 10/13/2011 11:45 PM, Lone Haranguer wrote:
>
>> Why aren't you sleeping in the park with your pals?
>> LZ
>>
> cause the cops might beat your ass?
>
LZ
LonVanOstran
under Obamanomics, and there is no sign of it getting better unless
Obama leaves office.
Lon
JerryD(upstateNY)
posted many
times before................how much of the current financial mess is due to
unfunded wars and tax cuts for the wealthy...how much ?
1. Obama spent more in his 1st year as president than Bush did in 8 years of
"unfunded wars" and Obama hasn't done a thing about stopping either war.
2. Bush's economy was doing just fine until 2007, which was (purely
coincidental, I'm sure)
the same year the Democrats took over congress.
Both of these 2 statements are 100% FACT, that can be verified in any number
of ways, yet cj will deny both statements.
That's called being a "mind numbed robot".
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
LonVanOstran
reality this time after repeatedly proving that he rejects it?
If he was capable of thinking he would already be doing it.
Lon
Bob Hatch
cj
> On 10/14/2011 2:48 PM, cj wrote:
>> On 10/13/2011 7:55 PM, RonB wrote:
>>> On Oct 13, 4:24 am, Hank<ninebal...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> As we all know, things will change within the next year, but....
>>>> Giving the facts of today, who would you vote for today and why?
>>>>
>>>> Hank
>>>
>>> Cain seems to be the only one in the crowd who has a lick of business
>>> sense.
>> cain bought godfathers pizza from pilsbury...he did not start it
>>
>> cj
>
> How do you think he got the money to buy it?
>
>
cj
> its clear to
> everyone that the repugs number one mission is to tank the economy so
> that obama does not get reelected
nothermark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain#Business_career
He's smart. His problem is he is part of the upper strata of business
management that wants all us serfs back in our place.
LonVanOstran
buy a business as big as Godfather's Pizza, while not using any of his
own money, yet he's considered to be the owner of the company, then I
want that man to run the USA. I like the sound of that.
Lon