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David "The Hamster" Malone

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:29:57 AM7/6/09
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Or, should I say... no more spring.

I had a major tragedy over the weekend - my $5 (25 years ago) pair of
grass shears finally bit the dust (coup de grâce?). I cared for them
lovingly and kept them clean and sharp. Nothing, and I mean nothing,
was better for trimming the edges of the grass and the tight places
the lawn-mower couldn't reach.

The spring snapped. Metal fatigue, I guess. This was the best grass
cutting tool I've ever owned and I can't find a good replacement.

I'm desperate.

I found a pair for $44 in a hardware store that could cut at multiple
angles - the return spring was so weak it was useless. Then I went to
Home Depot and bought a Fiskars - equally or even more useless. It had
serrated teeth about half way down which cut just fine but the top
three inches wouldn't cut anything - just pinched and tore the grass.

I tried to get the spring replaced on the old ones but no-one would do
it. Buy a new pair they said.

All I want is a simple pair of shears that will cut grass cleanly.
Must have a powerful return spring so I can cut quickly. Any
suggestions?

The old pair looked something like this...

http://tinyurl.com/l9ywla

But I don't want to risk buying it and finding it doesn't cut grass.
Any recommendations gratefully received.


David "The Hamster" Malone

Hunter Hampton

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:39:44 AM7/6/09
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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT), "David \"The Hamster\"
Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

>All I want is a simple pair of shears that will cut grass cleanly.
>Must have a powerful return spring so I can cut quickly. Any
>suggestions?

A lawnmower. No wonder it takes you so long to cut the grass.

Hunter

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:51:38 AM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 10:39 am, Hunter Hampton <airstreamingy...@geemail.com>
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> A lawnmower. No wonder it takes you so long to cut the grass.

How dare you be so flippant in my hour of need :-) I'm in mourning
here and you're making jokes?

Tsk.

Actually I have a Honda 4-stroke mower that does a great job - but it
doesn't trim the sides. I've tried a string trimmer in the past but it
burns the edges...

David "The Hamster" Malone

matt_colie

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:57:49 AM7/6/09
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David,

If it like the pair we have, the spring is inside the grip.
Go to a good local (not big box) hardware store. Take the shears with
the old spring with you. That store will have a place with a collection
of springs (tension, compression & torsion), find the compression
collection and then pick through that until something fits and works.
Then smile and pay the nice people the something less than a buck.

Matt


David "The Hamster" Malone wrote:
> Or, should I say... no more spring.
>
> I had a major tragedy over the weekend - my $5 (25 years ago) pair of

> grass shears finally bit the dust (coup de gr�ce?). I cared for them

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:58:43 AM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 10:51 am, The Hamster <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

> Actually I have a Honda 4-stroke mower that does a great job - but it
> doesn't trim the sides. I've tried a string trimmer in the past but it
> burns the edges...

Someone suggested these - anyone use them?

http://www.leevalley.com/garden/page.aspx?c=1&p=47225&cat=2,2160

I'm just afraid I'd feel sheepish if I tried them and they didn't
work...

David "The sheep-shearing Hamster" Malone

Technobarbarian

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Jul 6, 2009, 11:15:15 AM7/6/09
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"David "The Hamster" Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
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Or, should I say... no more spring.

I had a major tragedy over the weekend - my $5 (25 years ago) pair of

grass shears finally bit the dust (coup de gr�ce?). I cared for them


lovingly and kept them clean and sharp. Nothing, and I mean nothing,
was better for trimming the edges of the grass and the tight places
the lawn-mower couldn't reach.

Around here the first place I check if I need a spring is Ace
Hardware. Most stores carry a large assortment. When a friend lost the
spring from the seat adjustment mechanism in her Jeep the dealer wanted to
sell her a whole new mechanism for megabucks. I found a replacement at Ace
for less than $3. If you don't find exactly what you want there you could
cut and modify a spring to fit. Or make your own spring. These guys show
some fancy tooling, but you can wind a spring around a piece of hardwood
doweling or anything else with the right diameter.
http://home.earthlink.net/~bazillion/intro.html Before I went that far I'd
check online sources for springs.

TB


The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:12:16 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 11:15 am, "Technobarbarian" <Technobarbarian-
ztopz...@gmail.com> wrote:

>       Around here the first place I check if I need a spring is Ace
> Hardware. Most stores carry a large assortment. When a friend lost the
> spring from the seat adjustment mechanism in her Jeep the dealer wanted to
> sell her a whole new mechanism for megabucks. I found a replacement at Ace
> for less than $3. If you don't find exactly what you want there you could
> cut and modify a spring to fit.

It was a simple torsion spring with one long side (that extended down
one handle) and one short side. Hmnnn... thanks for the idea TB, I'll
have a look down at the local hardware store. If I had my druthers,
I'd prefer to fix the old pair...

David "The Hamster" Malone

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:15:23 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 10:57 am, matt_colie <m...@charter.net> wrote:

> If it like the pair we have, the spring is inside the grip.
> Go to a good local (not big box) hardware store.  Take the shears with
> the old spring with you.  That store will have a place with a collection
> of springs (tension, compression & torsion), find the compression
> collection and then pick through that until something fits and works.

Great idea... you and TB must be in cahoots...

> Then smile and pay the nice people the something less than a buck.

If I could fix them, even if rather more than a buck, I'd be very
happy. It'd be shear delight...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:58:58 PM7/6/09
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I've found that in some situations the string trimmer works
better if you don't use it at top speed. You can vary the speed
with varying pressure on the trigger.

But I don't understand why you can't buy an exact replacement.
Has the maker gone out of business? Hey, they even make electric
shears nowadays, with a rechargeable battery.

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:14:46 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 12:58 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've found that in some situations the string trimmer works
> better if you don't use it at top speed.  You can vary the speed
> with varying pressure on the trigger.

I've tried several makes - the last one is now owned by my neighbor
who uses it to carelessly savage the grass around his trees.

> But I don't understand why you can't buy an exact replacement.
> Has the maker gone out of business?  Hey, they even make electric
> shears nowadays, with a rechargeable battery.

They were no-name shears - there is nothing stamped on the metal parts
and the handles have long worn off. I've browsed all the local
gardening places plus Canadian Tire and Home Depot and no-one has
anything similar. The closest were the Fiskars and they don't cut it.

I'm going to try the spring replacement route and if that doesn't work
I'm giving up and buying a large pair of scissors...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:26:34 PM7/6/09
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The pair you showed on Amazon were only $6.50. You said they
looked like that. Whataya got to lose?

Hey, a stepper like you ought to go for one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/American-Gardener-GS48-4-8-Volt-Cordless/dp/B00019ODE4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1246900809&sr=1-1

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The American Gardener 4.8-volt cordless grass shear with 4-inch
clean-cut stainless steel blades makes trimming fast easy and is
especially ideal for the grass around flower beds and light
shrubbery touch ups. Using a comfortable safety thumb switch, the
safety lockout feature prohibits accidental blade operation. The
stainless steel blades are designed to retain their sharpness and
resist corrosion, while the 4.8-volt high capacity NiCad power
system provides 40 minutes of continuous cutting per charge.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I know you Commonwealth guys remain nostalgic for Victorian
times, but there's no need for your shears to date from the Grey
Ages.....

Bob, who seldom gets down on his knees to trim the yard. That's
shear idolatry.

bill horne

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:45:43 PM7/6/09
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When did Canada start being concerned about burning grass?

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:48:17 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 1:26 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The pair you showed on Amazon were only $6.50.  You said they
> looked like that.  Whataya got to lose?

Shipping & handling from the US of A?

> Hey, a stepper like you ought to go for one of these:

My wife has a similar pair made by B&D. I don't like 'em much. The
hand shears do a better job.

> I know you Commonwealth guys remain nostalgic for Victorian
> times, but there's no need for your shears to date from the Grey
> Ages.....
>
> Bob, who seldom gets down on his knees to trim the yard.  That's
> shear idolatry.

What can I say - I like hand shears. It's driving me crazy.

Um... not that it probably has anything to do with my shears problem,
but the night after this happened, I had a really weird dream. I never
recall my dreams usually but my wife tells me this is what I told
her...

I was late for a flight on TWA (why TWA, I have no idea) and got on
the airplane at the last minute. Everybody was already sitting down
and belted in, but none of them except the hostesses had any legs. One
of the stewards came up to me and said, "You have to store your legs
in the overhead compartments before we can take off...".

I was a bit taken aback but considered the problem carefully and stood
on one leg while I removed the other and stowed it. The compartment
was already full of legs, male and female, shoes, socks, pantyhose and
everything. To take the other leg off, I had to hang from the
compartment with one hand and remove the remaining leg with the other.
I couldn't think how to close the compartment. Then I swung back and
forth until I was directly over the seat and let go...

The seat was rubber and as a result, I bounced up and down for several
minutes - which irritated my fellow passengers no end. A big fat woman
demanded I be thrown off the 'plane and started chanting 'Throw him
off... throw him off...". The rest joined in.

I can remember protesting, "Let me get my legs... let me get my
legs..." but they grabbed me and threw me off without them and I sat
on the runway feeling sorry for myself.

Then the pilot (who looked like Karl Malden) poked his head out the
front window and shouted..."Don't even think about suing us... you
haven't got a leg to stand on."

I don't remember any more. Maybe that's when I woke up.

David "The Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:50:25 PM7/6/09
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 13:45:43 -0400, bill horne <red...@rye.net>
wrote:

I don't believe it's Canada, having driven through the miasma of
slashpile burning in BC.

I think it might be Mrs. Rodent. And while the Hamster is on his
knees anyway, he might as well be trimming the grass. I
understand he also does a mean job waxing the floors with a
toothbrush....

Bob, trying to be sympathetic.

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:58:15 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 1:50 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >When did Canada start being concerned about burning grass?
>
> I don't believe it's Canada, having driven through the miasma of
> slashpile burning in BC.  

It turns the grass brown. We like ours green up here.

> I think it might be Mrs. Rodent.  And while the Hamster is on his
> knees anyway, he might as well be trimming the grass.  I
> understand he also does a mean job waxing the floors with a
> toothbrush....

Lol... my wife (a retired dental assistant) would never allow me to
use a toothbrush in such a fashion...

David "The servile Hamster" Malone


Peter Pan

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:01:32 PM7/6/09
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"Bob Giddings" <bobgid...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Wait till you get older, hired a kid to mow/trim/blow.... a few bucks a
week, but he has his own stuff, and does all the sweaty work.... matter of
fact, he is here now, i'm looking at the couch and thinking nap..... :)

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:01:40 PM7/6/09
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In that case, even calling on both your friends wouldn't help
you. All they could do is lend you a hand....

Bob

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:09:52 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 2:01 pm, "Peter Pan" <pponvistaNOS...@MarcAlanNOSPAM.Info>
wrote:

> Wait till you get older, hired a kid to mow/trim/blow.... a few bucks a
> week, but he has his own stuff, and does all the sweaty work.... matter of
> fact, he is here now, i'm looking at the couch and thinking nap..... :)

We tried that - with four different people. None of them were up to
Mrs. Hamster's high standards... she fired all of them after a few
iterations.

Good help is hard to find... <g>

David "The Hamster" Malone


The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:10:35 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 2:01 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> In that case, even calling on both your friends wouldn't help
> you.  All they could do is lend you a hand....

Both????

David "The lonely Hamster" Malone

bill horne

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The Hamster wrote:
> On Jul 6, 1:26 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The pair you showed on Amazon were only $6.50. You said they
>> looked like that. Whataya got to lose?
>
> Shipping & handling from the US of A?
>
>> Hey, a stepper like you ought to go for one of these:
>
> My wife has a similar pair made by B&D. I don't like 'em much. The
> hand shears do a better job.
>
>> I know you Commonwealth guys remain nostalgic for Victorian
>> times, but there's no need for your shears to date from the Grey
>> Ages.....
>>
>> Bob, who seldom gets down on his knees to trim the yard. That's
>> shear idolatry.
>
> What can I say - I like hand shears. It's driving me crazy.

In a previous life, I knew a guy who used a machine similar to this:
http://www.cleanairgardening.com/brill-razorcut-38-reel-mower.html
He also mowed in a particular pattern which entailed mowing the yard
twice each time he mowed it. You and he have similar analities.

Lone Haranguer

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:28:41 PM7/6/09
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I suspect Ortelia has high standards of lawn care and the Hamster's work
is subject to inspection.

35 years ago I used the battery operated shears and they did a nice job.
They've probably improved since then.
LZ

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:34:53 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 2:18 pm, bill horne <redy...@rye.net> wrote:

> In a previous life, I knew a guy who used a machine similar to this:
> http://www.cleanairgardening.com/brill-razorcut-38-reel-mower.html
> He also mowed in a particular pattern which entailed mowing the yard
> twice each time he mowed it.

I already have a tail and thus have no need to entail. I think I
already mentioned my Honda 4 stroke mulching mower?

> You and he have similar analities.

I bet he didn't have a tail at his anality...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:34:57 PM7/6/09
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Bah. It's a strange Zoo you've got up there. For instance, how
in the world did a Hamster ever manage to marry a Dear?

Really, with all these talking animals about, you ought to write
a memoir.

You could call it "Breaking Wind in the Willows".

Happily, the Doctor lent me the TARDIS, so I happen to have an
advance copy. Here's a passage from the moment you finally
discover powered shears:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

`Glorious, stirring sight!' murmured Hamster, never offering to
move. `The poetry of motion! The real way to Trim! The only way
to Trim! Here to-day -- in next week to-morrow! O bliss! O
poop-poop! O my! O my!'

`O stop being an ass, Hamster' cried Mrs. Hamster despairingly.
`And to think I never knew!' went on the Hamster in a dreamy
monotone. `All those wasted years that lie behind me, I never
knew, never even dreamt!'

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bob, who can also get carried away.

bill horne

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:41:36 PM7/6/09
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Can't say - I never saw him in Jenny Mode.

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:54:05 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 2:34 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  `Glorious, stirring sight!' murmured Hamster, never offering to
> move. `The poetry of motion! The real way to Trim! The only way
> to Trim! Here to-day -- in next week to-morrow! O bliss! O
> poop-poop! O my! O my!'

O poop-poop?

> Bob, who 'should be' carried away in restraints by men in white coats.

David "The relatively-sane Hamster" Malone

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:00:30 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 2:28 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I suspect Ortelia has high standards of lawn care and the Hamster's work
> is subject to inspection.

Au contraire, mon frere... it's me that prefers to use the shears.
When I do a job, I want it done right the first time. And years of
trial and error have shown that the hand grass shears get the best
results...

> 35 years ago I used the battery operated shears and they did a nice job.
>   They've probably improved since then.

One would hope so. Did they really have batteries back then?

David "The Hamster" Malone

Max

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"The Hamster" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
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Both????

Both friends.

Max (if you're counting me)

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:10:39 PM7/6/09
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Okay, I admit it. It wasn't Hamster. It was quote from Toad.

The Hamster

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On Jul 6, 3:10 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay, I admit it.  It wasn't Hamster.  It was quote from Toad.

Ah... we're finally back on RVing. What kind of Toad?

David "The Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:16:36 PM7/6/09
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I was thinking of Ratty and Mole.

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:17:55 PM7/6/09
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Poop, poop.

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:21:06 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 3:07 pm, "Max" <thesameol...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Both friends.
>
> Max (if you're counting me)

You may be the only one... but thanks for your support :-)

David "The Hamster" Malone


Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:25:12 PM7/6/09
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Hey, speaking of support, I just read that Michael Owen signed
with Man U. At least until his knees give out again....

I've had a soft spot for that speedster, despite his troubles,
ever since the 1998 world cup. I know, I know, ancient history.

Bob

The Hamster

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:37:02 PM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 3:25 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, speaking of support, I just read that Michael Owen signed
> with Man U.  At least until his knees give out again....
>
> I've had a soft spot for that speedster, despite his troubles,
> ever since the 1998 world cup.  I know, I know, ancient history.

Yep... was announced sometime last week - I remember reading about it.
Most people think Ferguson is out of his mind, but I tend to think his
MU squad is deep enough that Michael can get some rest for his various
injuries week-to-week and return to his best form. Fergie won't play
him if he's not 100 percent... and when he's on, he's worth watching.
Quick little guy and a natural goal-scorer.

Not exactly a one-for-one replacement for Ronaldo, the every-day
Portuguese super-star... but he may surprise us.

David "The Hamster" Malone

Lone Haranguer

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:40:22 PM7/6/09
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The Hamster wrote:
> On Jul 6, 2:28 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I suspect Ortelia has high standards of lawn care and the Hamster's work
>> is subject to inspection.
>
> Au contraire, mon frere... it's me that prefers to use the shears.
> When I do a job, I want it done right the first time. And years of
> trial and error have shown that the hand grass shears get the best
> results...

After Ortelia made you conscious of the aesthetics involved.


>
>> 35 years ago I used the battery operated shears and they did a nice job.
>> They've probably improved since then.
>
> One would hope so. Did they really have batteries back then?

Yep...also chargers. Some desk calculators of the period used the same
batteries.
LZ
>
> David "The Hamster" Malone
>

Bob Giddings

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Jul 6, 2009, 3:44:54 PM7/6/09
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It's a brutal business, being an almost has-been at 29. And yet
knowing you still have a few long moments of grace in you yet,
just waiting to get out.

Or so I imagine.

Bob, far too old to be the youngest anything.

JerryD(upstateNY)

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GaryO

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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT), "David \"The Hamster\"
Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

>
>All I want is a simple pair of shears that will cut grass cleanly.
>Must have a powerful return spring so I can cut quickly. Any
>suggestions?
>
>The old pair looked something like this...
>
>http://tinyurl.com/l9ywla
>
>But I don't want to risk buying it and finding it doesn't cut grass.
>Any recommendations gratefully received.
>
>
>David "The Hamster" Malone


Your best bet might be the local flea market. That is where I scored
a very nice pair of Sears Craftsman grass shears several years ago.
They are USA made, stainless steel blades, adjustable blade tension,
and the handle assembly is cast - not stamped. The spring is plenty
strong too!

I can't tell much from the online Sears catalog, how their current
version compares, other than the blades are now "cutlery steel".
Still USA made, so likely of better quality.

...gary

JerryD(upstateNY)

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Jul 6, 2009, 6:24:17 PM7/6/09
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"David "The Hamster" Malone" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
I had a major tragedy over the weekend - my $5 (25 years ago) pair of
grass shears finally bit the dust (coup de gr�ce?). I cared for them
lovingly and kept them clean and sharp. Nothing, and I mean nothing,
was better for trimming the edges of the grass and the tight places
the lawn-mower couldn't reach.
The spring snapped. Metal fatigue, I guess. This was the best grass
cutting tool I've ever owned and I can't find a good replacement.<<<<<<<<<<


You might be better off buying a $25.00 pair of cordless grass shears.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)


The Hamster

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Jul 7, 2009, 9:36:57 AM7/7/09
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On Jul 6, 6:16 pm, "JerryD\(upstateNY\)" <jer...@rochester.rr.com>
wrote:

> How about these ?http://cgi.ebay.com/Craftsman-Grass-clippers-Grass-Shears-1950-s-gree...

Looks a bit older than the ones I broke - the spring is likely shot on
them already (plus it sounds as if the wife put them in the
dishwasher)...

David "The Hamster" Malone

The Hamster

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On Jul 6, 6:14 pm, GaryO < @ . > wrote:

> Your best bet might be the local flea market.

Great idea - I think there's one in Sutton - which by coincidence is
where I'm heading this weekend...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Robert Bonomi

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Jul 7, 2009, 7:17:58 PM7/7/09
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In article <87bb0462-169a-47e2...@24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
David \"The Hamster\" Malone <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>Or, should I say... no more spring.

"Spring is sprung,
the grass is riz.
Where the snow was,
the root-worm is."


Robert Bonomi

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In article <102f9ea2-818e-4cc0...@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
The Hamster <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>On Jul 6, 10:57�am, matt_colie <m...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> If it like the pair we have, the spring is inside the grip.
>> Go to a good local (not big box) hardware store. �Take the shears with
>> the old spring with you. �That store will have a place with a collection
>> of springs (tension, compression & torsion), find the compression
>> collection and then pick through that until something fits and works.
>
>Great idea... you and TB must be in cahoots...
>
>> Then smile and pay the nice people the something less than a buck.
>
>If I could fix them, even if rather more than a buck, I'd be very
>happy. It'd be shear delight...

You'll be betting your hedges on that, right?


The Hamster

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On Jul 7, 7:25 pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

> You'll be betting your hedges on that, right?

Right... yew can bet it'll be a privet transaction when I do buy a new
one though.

I gave up on the new spring idea because it was apparently installed
before they riveted the parts together - no way to re-install a new
one.

I'm going to buy the one on Amazon.

David "The

Bob Giddings

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On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:48:17 -0700 (PDT), The Hamster
<mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

>> The pair you showed on Amazon were only $6.50. �You said they
>> looked like that. �Whataya got to lose?
>
>Shipping & handling from the US of A?

Isn't there an Amazon.ca?

The Hamster

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On Jul 8, 10:32 am, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >Shipping & handling from the US of A?
>
> Isn't there an Amazon.ca?

Yes. What's your point...? :-)

(The .ca version so far only sells books, videos, CDs, electronics,
etc.)

David "The Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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The obvious point is to look there and avoid the international
shipping and handling. If they don't carry it, never mind. Just
a thought.

Bob

Robert Bonomi

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In article <3493c805-10b8-47c2...@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,

The Hamster <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>On Jul 7, 7:25�pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>
>> You'll be betting your hedges on that, right?
>
>Right... yew can bet it'll be a privet transaction when I do buy a new
>one though.
>
>I'm going to buy the one on Amazon.

If you're going out-house for a supplier, wouldn't that require privvy counsel?

>
>David "The


Yikes, there's a hamster on the loose! And it looks like he's not malone,
either.

Bob Giddings

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That's okay. It's malone, not malign.

The Hamster

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Jul 8, 2009, 1:05:33 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 12:10 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The obvious point is to look there and avoid the international
> shipping and handling.  If they don't carry it, never mind.  Just
> a thought.

And a good thought it was, my friend. But only the US version has a
wide range of products that includes Home & Garden, etc.

David "The snippy Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 8, 2009, 1:19:20 PM7/8/09
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Hey, I'm surprised you can't find it at Canadian Tire. I thought
they carried everything.... :o)

The Hamster

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Jul 8, 2009, 1:25:36 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 1:19 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, I'm surprised you can't find it at Canadian Tire.  I thought
> they carried everything.... :o)

Me too... but just try and find a cheap nuclear reactor or a SCUD
missile in the home hardware section these days...

David "The Hamster" Malone

The Hamster

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On Jul 8, 1:01 pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

> Yikes,  there's a hamster on the loose!  And it looks like he's not malone,
> either.

My cousin Ian always signs 'I Malone' so he's a very lonely guy...

David "The Hamster" Malone

Lone Haranguer

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I think you should rattle their cage. People will think Canada is a
second rate country if they can't even have Amazon.com with a full range
of products.
LZ

The Hamster

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Jul 8, 2009, 2:35:57 PM7/8/09
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On Jul 8, 1:54 pm, Lone Haranguer <linus...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think you should rattle their cage.

Hamsters never rattle cages... sets our teeth on edge.

> People will think Canada is a
> second rate country if they can't even have Amazon.com with a full range
> of products.

You have a point - even the UK version has a 'Home & Garden' section.
I can't tell if the German and the Chinese versions do...

David "The slightly-miffed Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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I think I encountered someone distributing bioweaponry there. I
tried to stop the swine, but he flew.

Bob Giddings

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OTOH, I have had to send off to Amazon.uk for several books that
were unavailable here.

The Hamster

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On Jul 8, 2:50 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think I encountered someone distributing bioweaponry there.  I
> tried to stop the swine, but he flew.

You can still get it in aisles H1 and N1...

David "The talk-sick Hamster" Malone

Max

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"The Hamster" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:ef3c77c8-065a-4216...@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

>David "The Hamster" Malone

And the Hispanic say, !Aye!, Malone!"
(you need to be familiar with Hispanic language and culture to understand)

Max

Robert Bonomi

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In article <cbk955t2pt1d2hu04...@4ax.com>,

Are you sure about that??? He's reportedly been seen malignering.

Robert Bonomi

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In article <_x75m.9378$OF1....@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>,

Max <thesam...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"The Hamster" <mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message
>news:ef3c77c8-065a-4216...@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>On Jul 8, 1:01 pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>
>> Yikes, there's a hamster on the loose! And it looks like he's not malone,
>> either.
>
>>My cousin Ian always signs 'I Malone' so he's a very lonely guy...


Oh my. A _successful_ Garbo imitator.

Sprinkled grass-seed on his head, while proclaiming "I vant to be a Lawn".

And it *worked*. he is.

The Hamster

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On Jul 8, 12:10 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The obvious point is to look there and avoid the international
> shipping and handling.

The saga is finally over.

I ordered one from Amazon.com... they refused to send it. Apparently
they don't mail sharp objects to Canada - probably afraid we'll poke
an eye out or cut ourselves.

I was getting desperate but I had an idea. After leaving work, I
started a systematic search of all Garden Centers in the area,
starting with Hwy#7 and then Markham road. No luck. Then I remembered
the oldest one in Scarborough, Weal & Cullen, on Ellesmere road...

They had the usual display of Fiskars and Gardenia shears. I found the
section manager and explained my problem - "Oh," he said, "I have a
couple of those tucked away - we use them in the plant nursery...".
They were in a drawer... and identical to the ones I had except for
the teflon coated blades. A bit pricier than I thought at $18.00 -
they were $11.00 on Amazon. "I'll take one," I said.

After I got in the car, I unwrapped them from the packing cardboard
and immediately noticed the rivet was missing for the tension spring.
Shoot.

I took them back, and they bought out the only other pair and we
looked at those. Perfect. I was about to leave and I had a brilliant
thought. It wasn't actually a rivet missing, but a nut, and since they
were identical to my old ones... "How much for the broken pair?", I
said. "After all they are useless...". "How about half price...?", he
said. "How about $5.00?" I said. "Done", he said.

I was right - the nut on the old pair fitted perfectly. Now I just
have to take the other set back... and I've got the perfect
replacement... for $5.00. Less than I paid for the original pair.

David "The lucky Hamster" Malone

The Hamster

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Jul 9, 2009, 9:45:13 AM7/9/09
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On Jul 8, 4:43 pm, "Max" <thesameol...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> And the Hispanic say, !Aye!, Malone!"

Huh?

> (you need to be familiar with Hispanic language and culture to understand)

It's not his panic that seems to get me into trouble... it's her
panic. She's not good in emergencies.

David "The doesn't-panic Hamster" Malone

Hunter Hampton

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Jul 9, 2009, 9:49:08 AM7/9/09
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On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 06:34:15 -0700 (PDT), The Hamster
<mal...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:

>I was right - the nut on the old pair fitted perfectly. Now I just
>have to take the other set back... and I've got the perfect
>replacement... for $5.00. Less than I paid for the original pair.

Keep both pairs..... trust me on this.

Hunter

The Hamster

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On Jul 9, 9:49 am, Hunter Hampton <airstreamingy...@geemail.com>
wrote:

> Keep both pairs..... trust me on this.

Good idea... I'll take one pair up to the trailer and keep it there to
trim the grass around the tires, etc..

So let's see... $18 plus $5 is $23 so they averaged $11.50 a pair.

Not too bad.

David "The Hamster" Malone

Robert Bonomi

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Jul 9, 2009, 12:41:40 PM7/9/09
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In article <b212cab5-25d3-47c7...@x3g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,

A _wise_ hamster would keep the 2nd pair. It is a well known fact
that if you have a spare in hand, the original _never_ breaks.

OTOH, if you return that pair, it is odds-on that the store _will_
have another customer looking for the same thing. roughly a week
*BEFORE* your new (with no spare) pair gives out.

Then what will you do? (besides kick yourself, that is) *grin*


The Hamster

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On Jul 9, 12:41 pm, bon...@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi) wrote:

> A _wise_ hamster would keep the 2nd pair.  It is a well known fact
> that if you have a spare in hand, the original _never_ breaks.

You're a bit late with the advice, Roobert, old pal... are you
following this conversation on a 300 baud dial-up-modem or something?

See my reply to Hunter...

David "The high-tech Hamster" Malone

Bob Giddings

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Jul 9, 2009, 2:08:19 PM7/9/09
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Should have bought them both and squirreled one away for the
future.

But what the hey. As you have noted before, you are not a
squirrel....

The Hamster

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On Jul 9, 2:08 pm, Bob Giddings <bobgiddin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> But what the hey.  As you have noted before, you are not a
> squirrel....

I've been known to morph into one and back again...

David "The Hamster" Malone

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