What is this forum about?
B.
"Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel". IMHO we should stay on topic and air our
opinions about politics, religion, etc. on forums where those topics
are of interest. My personal interest is, in so far as this google
group is concerned, is in camping, outdoor recreation, and RV-ing.
That's why I subscribed to this forum.
I share my opinions about other topics such as auto mechanics,
politics, religion, cooking, beer making, etc. in other groups
regarding those particular topics. I find very little info about
"Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel" in this forum. I find more information in
other forums where participants have a genuine interest in and
discussion of topics that are relevant to recreation, outdoors
adventure and RV travel. I wish the same could be said of this google
group.
Perhaps this google group should be renamed "Debate any subject, flame
our participants for sharing their opinions, and sometimes discuss
Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel".
Thanks for reading my post and have a great day!
B.
Bob V
"B." <ltlbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176645068.5...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
: Forgive my apparent ignorance, but I thought this forum was about
Prediction: Over the next few hours you will become "educated" as to what
this forum is about, and if you continue to argue your point, by the end of
the day you will be blocked by about 99% of the regulars here.
Ralph E Lindberg
"B." <ltlbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The solution starts at home, use kill files and kill anything that
starts with the Off Topic line. Never post to one of those threads and
ignore them.
--
--------------------------------------------------------
Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org
This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read
RV and Camping FAQ can be found at
http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv
Hunter
wrote:
>Prediction: Over the next few hours you will become "educated" as to what
>this forum is about, and if you continue to argue your point, by the end of
>the day you will be blocked by about 99% of the regulars here.
I blocked him when I read about his tow dolly and he wrote "I LOVE it"
Hunter
bruce
As I said to the last person to post this whine (just two days ago):
If you don't want to read off topic stuff, just filter "OT" - problem
solved.
If you want to read more on topic RV related stuff, start a conversation.
If you just want to bitch and whine, take it up with your wife - nobody here
cares.
Bruce
Janet Wilder
First of all it is NOT a Google Group. It's been a Usenet newsgroup for
well over a decade. Google picks up Usenet groups for the sake of those
who can't comprehend that there was something in existence prior to the
World Wide Web's popularity.
Second, many of us have been here for years, posting RV-related material
and just hanging around as friends often do. We enjoy sharing things
with each other and seeking different opinions on world matters and
other things not RV related. It's been like this forever and many of us
don't appreciate newbies handing us our hats for the way we conduct our
friendships.
Third, if you don't like this group, I respectfully suggest that you
Google someplace more to your liking. There are various moderated RV
forums around. The moderators make sure the postings are on topic. They
might be more to your liking.
Good-bye.
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life
R.J.(Bob) Evans
>Forgive my apparent ignorance, (at which point he should have quit)
Dear Bozo:
The net nanny position for this newsgroup is already taken. Since you
appear to be unaware that you have submitted your application to a
newsgroup it is unlikely that you will ever be seriously considered
for the position of nanny for this group but please feel free to
reapply at some future date.
Your ignorance is hereby forgiven.
Yours truly,
R.J.(Bob) Evans
--
R.J.(Bob) Evans
(return address needs alteration to work)
William Boyd-II
YOU TELL EM, KID I STUTTER TO MUCH!
--
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Mike Simmons
"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4622458f$0$7198$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
sic 'im, Janet!
;^)
Mike
Neon John
First off, this isn't a "google group". This is Usenet, a service the
long predated even the internet. The google guys probably hadn't even
been born yet. Google provides an archive and a mediocre web
interface but that's it.
Second and more important, your attitude is the very antithesis of any
freedom-loving American. "I don't like what you say so shut up".
Your choice is to ignore what you don't like or leave. In the case of
this group, you have a powerful tool to help you ignore what you don't
like in the form of Usenet reader agents with good filtering or to use
the traditional term, "killfile". You will, of course, have to get
off Google and get a good reader. Agent is good but not free. Mozilla
Thunderbird is both free and good.
If you find it unpleasant to ignore things you don't like, as do I,
then you simply filter those things out. The Usenet equivalent of
sticking your fingers in your ears. And people who generate that
trash are also filtered, known as "plonking". The Usenet version of
walking away from an asshole you don't like.
Amazingly enough, from where I sit this group's content IS mostly
about RVs. I filter out all political crap and quickly killfile
people who generate it. I also filter whiners such as yourself which
is why you'll feel the plonk right after I post this.
Grow up, quit whining, get a good Usenet reader and start a thread
about RVs. Or just leave. Doesn't matter a bit to me and probably
most everyone else here.
John
---
John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
Cleveland, Occupied TN
All great things are simple and many can be expressed in single words:
Freedom, Justice, Honor, Duty, Mercy, Hope. -Churchill
-Gar
Yup, he just LOVES it. He's *really* going
to LOVE screwing around with where to put the
damn thing all the time. Sheesh! -Gar
Andy S.
"R.J.(Bob) Evans" <bob d0t evans at sasktel d0t net> wrote in message
news:2ei4239dri1vfj3ee...@4ax.com...
> On 15 Apr 2007 06:51:08 -0700 "B." <ltlbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Forgive my apparent ignorance, (at which point he should have quit)
>
> Dear Bozo:
>
> The net nanny position for this newsgroup is already taken. Since you
> appear to be unaware that you have submitted your application to a
> newsgroup it is unlikely that you will ever be seriously considered
> for the position of nanny for this group but please feel free to
> reapply at some future date.
>
> Your ignorance is hereby forgiven.
>
> Yours truly,
> R.J.(Bob) Evans
>
hehehe
Well said!
Andy S.
"Hunter" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:5sg423p7tinsd1ubb...@4ax.com...
Although I think the OP is acting like an ass, but just curious...
Why would you filter someone because they repsonded to a legit question with
a legit answer and a link to possibly what someone was looking for?
Bob Hatch
news:C5KdnUHv4MV1yb_b...@comcast.com
To start with, the reason he loves it so much, is that he is the place he
bought it from. And because he is the place he bought it from, he will
gladly sell you one just like his. :-)
He's a scummy spammer.
--
"You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog
will give you a look that says, 'My God, you're right!
I never would've thought of that!'"
--Dave Barry
http://www.bobhatch.com
http://www.tdsrvresort.com
Andy S.
"Bob Hatch" <bobh...@go.com> wrote in message
news:46225ac6$0$31434$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
>>>
>>> I blocked him when I read about his tow dolly and he wrote "I LOVE
>>> it" Hunter
>>
>> Although I think the OP is acting like an ass, but just curious...
>>
>> Why would you filter someone because they repsonded to a legit
>> question with a legit answer and a link to possibly what someone was
>> looking for?
>
> To start with, the reason he loves it so much, is that he is the place he
> bought it from. And because he is the place he bought it from, he will
> gladly sell you one just like his. :-)
>
> He's a scummy spammer.
>
Ahhh ok....
My appologies to you Hunter...
I take back what I said about the OP acting like an ass. He IS an ass!!!
Hunter
wrote:
>Why would you filter someone because they repsonded to a legit question with
>a legit answer and a link to possibly what someone was looking for?
Because I think/thought it was spam.
Hunter
Hunter
wrote:
>Ahhh ok....
>
>My appologies to you Hunter...
>
>I take back what I said about the OP acting like an ass. He IS an ass!!!
LOL! I responded then saw Bob's and your replies.
No need to apologize, your question was legitimate and you asked
nicely (c:
Hunter
1968 Avion A-25 Travel Trailer
I totally agree with you and your comments. I have a question, could
you please let me know the various sites you connect with which
discuss beer, auto mechanics i.e. maybe diesel, RV travel, and RV's in
general. Thank you for supporting my beliefs that specific topic
groups should keep to the subject. There are plenty of them that do.
Again, thank you for your comments, tdabney...@prodigy.net
Steve Wolf
If you check www.wolfswords.com under the motorhome then newsgroup link, you
will find information on how I filter and eliminate such nonsense.
I have no desire to participate in another rule-bound forum, normally
controlled by someone with too much time and too much alcohol. If you
filter this group correctly, you'll find it works quite well and without the
overhead of the other groups.
Steve
Lon VanOstran
Anybody who claims to "love" a tow dolly either hasn't used one, or is
too stupid to live. Some people tolerate a tow dolly for various
reasons, but nobody sane loves crawling around in the rain trying to
strap a car to a tow dolly. They also don't "love" muscling a tow dolly
around their camp site trying to find a place to stow it.
Lon
Hunter
<RV...@stopspamwmconnect.com> wrote:
>
>Anybody who claims to "love" a tow dolly either hasn't used one, or is
>too stupid to live.
...or is a spammer.
Hunter
Andy S.
"1968 Avion A-25 Travel Trailer" <tdabney...@prodigy.net> wrote in
message news:1176661633.5...@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> I totally agree with you and your comments. I have a question, could
> you please let me know the various sites you connect with which
> discuss beer, auto mechanics i.e. maybe diesel, RV travel, and RV's in
> general. Thank you for supporting my beliefs that specific topic
> groups should keep to the subject. There are plenty of them that do.
> Again, thank you for your comments, tdabney...@prodigy.net
>
Maybe Jenny could recomend some groups for you.
altar nospam
Another newbie telling us how to run the group.
Tom
altar nospam
<tdabney...@prodigy.net> wrote:
>> Perhaps this google group should be renamed "Debate any subject, flame
>> our participants for sharing their opinions, and sometimes discuss
>> Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel".
>>
>> Thanks for reading my post and have a great day!
>>
>> B.
>
>I totally agree with you and your comments. I have a question, could
>you please let me know the various sites you connect with which
>discuss beer, auto mechanics i.e. maybe diesel, RV travel, and RV's in
>general. Thank you for supporting my beliefs that specific topic
>groups should keep to the subject. There are plenty of them that do.
>Again, thank you for your comments, tdabney...@prodigy.net
Might I suggest you find one. We're happy here.
Tom
Steven Vaughan
> Perhaps this google group should be renamed "Debate any subject, flame
> our participants for sharing their opinions, and sometimes discuss
> Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel".
>
> Thanks for reading my post and have a great day!
>
> B.
Welcome to 'usenet', B. Same as it ever was...
Jimi
I absolutely agree...the entire NG needs to be monitored in some way...I
tried filtering the "OT" stuff but finds it kills some stuff I have on other
NG's....I AM a RV camper and the garbage that I see here is just
that....Freaking "OT" postings........every time I come here I have to sift
though this.....for no other word..it is entirely just SHIT! Please
forgive them, for they not know what they do Jimi
JerryD(upstateNY)
just SHIT! Please forgive them, for they not know what they do
<<<<<<<<<<<
OK everyone, here's the deal.
We all have to change everything we do here so every month or so when these
2 lurkers stop by, the board will meet with their approval.
--
JerryD(upstateNY)
Lon VanOstran
> I absolutely agree...the entire NG needs to be monitored in some way...I
> tried filtering the "OT" stuff but finds it kills some stuff I have on other
> NG's....I AM a RV camper and the garbage that I see here is just
> that....Freaking "OT" postings........every time I come here I have to sift
> though this.....for no other word..it is entirely just SHIT! Please
> forgive them, for they not know what they do Jimi
If you don't like what you found here, what keeps you here?
Lon, who likes what I've found here.
Hunter
<jer...@wherever.com> wrote:
>OK everyone, here's the deal.
>We all have to change everything we do here so every month or so when these
>2 lurkers stop by, the board will meet with their approval.
Great idea Jerry.
Um, when do we start? <g>
Hunter
Janet Wilder
> I absolutely agree...the entire NG needs to be monitored in some way...I
> tried filtering the "OT" stuff but finds it kills some stuff I have on other
> NG's....I AM a RV camper and the garbage that I see here is just
> that....Freaking "OT" postings........every time I come here I have to sift
> though this.....for no other word..it is entirely just SHIT! Please
> forgive them, for they not know what they do Jimi
>
We know exactly what we do and we've been happy doing it long before you
showed up.
No one is holding a gun to your head keeping you here. If you are
unhappy with the group, you can unsubscribe.
Janet, getting a little tired of the whining.
Erdos2
> "Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel". IMHO we should stay on topic and air our
> opinions about politics, religion, etc. on forums where those topics
> are of interest. My personal interest is, in so far as this google
> group is concerned, is in camping, outdoor recreation, and RV-ing.
> That's why I subscribed to this forum.
>
> I share my opinions about other topics such as auto mechanics,
> politics, religion, cooking, beer making, etc. in other groups
> regarding those particular topics. I find very little info about
> "Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel" in this forum. I find more information in
> other forums where participants have a genuine interest in and
> discussion of topics that are relevant to recreation, outdoors
> adventure and RV travel. I wish the same could be said of this google
> group.
>
> Perhaps this google group should be renamed "Debate any subject, flame
> our participants for sharing their opinions, and sometimes discuss
> Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel".
>
> Thanks for reading my post and have a great day!
>
> B.
Either you are a troll or naive. I will assume the latter.
As you can see by now, your post probably won't get very far
iun fixing this group. There are those of us who agree with you,
but we are definately in the minority.
Contrary to some poster beliefs here, this group wasn't like
this "forever". If you want to look it up, there was a charter
posted in this group on June 13, 1995 . Most of the regular
posters followed it for some quite some time. Over the years
it has changed much like many of the usenet groups have.
However, it has been like this for longer than most of the
current regular posters have known about the group.
On the other hand, even those who post much of the noise
also post reasonable information as well, so it is valuable to
stick around. Filtering what you can will help. Unfortunately
some of those who recommend filters are the same ones
who don't always use [OT] or OT: in their off topic postings.
As for the name of the group, a more accurate name would be:
rec.outdoors.rv-travel.campfire-conversations. It's the community
of people with a commonality of RVs that sits around bragging,
boasting, and arguing a variety of subjects. If you have something
to discuss about RVs, bring it up. Many of them can be helpful.
Jerry
Janet Wilder
>
> Contrary to some poster beliefs here, this group wasn't like
> this "forever". If you want to look it up, there was a charter
> posted in this group on June 13, 1995 .
Brought back memories of when Ralph used to post the "rules" every
month. 'member that, Ralph? Anyone else remember Sky King and his flame
wars. I do recall that he sold his RV. so I guess that's why he left.
Will Sill sold his RV, too, I wish he would follow suit <g>
Janet, waxing nostalgic.
JanO...@aol.com
> "B." <ltlblkb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Here's the thing, Jimi, B and other short timers here. You have
obviously
mistaken the long time decade long folks here as people that might
actually give a rat's ass about your whine. You have a perfect right
to
your whine however. And that's the point!!!!! YOU also may post as
you like.
What we have here at RORT, is a wide open forum where we allow any
and all subjects other than out and out SPAMMING. We have a vertual
campfire here where we gather and discuss RV subjects and whatever
else comes to mind. Just like YOU would do when you pull up a chair
to a campfire and talk to your friends in a campground.
Tell us this Jimi and "B." When you are around a campfire do you only
talk about RV subjects such as your busted black tank and make sure
that you and your friends NEVER talk about anything else? Do you have
some dumbass nanny moderator at the campfire to make sure that those
tender hearing instruments on the sides of your head are not violated?
HOLY CATS! How boring would that be?
(With all due respect to the holy religion of Kevin's cats and my own
kitty)
That's the way it's been for the last 10 years I have been here on
this Forum,
Jimi and "B" And THAT IS the way it's going to stay. People drift
through here
every year and try to change that to THEIR Rules. We don't have Rules
other
than NO SPAM. Get it?
You have the choice of joining in with the way it is here or moving
on. Your choice.
We would prefer that you stay and contribute. Just know that we are
not going
to put up with your WHINE and will post right down your throat every
time you
try to change that which WILL NOT BE CHANGED.
Suggestion: If you want to join in here other than a few little posts
you have posted
thus far, why not tell us about yourselves, where you hail from, what
youir RV is,
where you travel and what your REAL NAME IS other than some fake or
partial
moniker. The regulars here do not agree on everything. (How boring
would that be)
But, have a VAST amount of all aspects of RVing including equipment
and personal
aspects of RVing from insurance to financial. Many decades of
experience IS RIGHT
HERE. Those people, however are multi-smart about more than how to
install a new
water heater. AND THEY HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.
They are jewels in this Rough RORT.
All those words amount to this:
SHIT (Join In) OR GET OFF THE POT!
Jan Eric Orme
Posting this week from South Palm Canyon
ain'tthesameoldme@sbcglobal.netnot Max
"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:46239c13$0$21408$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
Now, Janet, I find Will (and a couple others) quite entertaining. I really
get a laugh when Will accuses others of what he habitually does.
So I hope he hangs around.
Max (JMTCW)
Lone Haranguer
> Erdos2 wrote:
>
>>
>> Contrary to some poster beliefs here, this group wasn't like
>> this "forever". If you want to look it up, there was a charter
>> posted in this group on June 13, 1995 .
>
>
> Brought back memories of when Ralph used to post the "rules" every
> month. 'member that, Ralph? Anyone else remember Sky King and his flame
> wars. I do recall that he sold his RV. so I guess that's why he left.
> Will Sill sold his RV, too, I wish he would follow suit <g>
>
> Janet, waxing nostalgic.
>
So when/if you sell yours we can say adios?
LZ
Carl A.
"Lon VanOstran" <RV...@stopspamwmconnect.com> wrote in message
news:58fhu6F...@mid.individual.net...
>
> Anybody who claims to "love" a tow dolly either hasn't used one, or is too
> stupid to live. Some people tolerate a tow dolly for various reasons, but
> nobody sane loves crawling around in the rain trying to strap a car to a
> tow dolly. They also don't "love" muscling a tow dolly around their camp
> site trying to find a place to stow it.
>
> Lon
You have obviously led a very sheltered life. There are many more
perversions out there in the real world than you can imagine. Some love
women, some love ponies, others love dollies. Be tolerant!
--
Carl A. in FL
Photojournals of my travels are at
http://sky.prohosting.com/chainfl/
RonB
was just a few days ago (4/14/07 @ 8:22 am).
RonB
"B." <ltlbl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Lon VanOstran
>
> You have obviously led a very sheltered life. There are many more
> perversions out there in the real world than you can imagine. Some love
> women, some love ponies, others love dollies. Be tolerant!
LOL
Lon
Jimi
Lon....what "keeps me here" is finding after sifting through the shit OT
postings the very odd Jewel of a post that I may find usefull when I RV
Camp... Jim
Jimi
"Will Sill" <wi...@epix.bnet> wrote in message
news:q4p623t3deuomklcr...@4ax.com...
>I see where "Jimi" <unk...@nospamhere.net> contributed:
>
>> ...the entire NG needs to be monitored in some way...
>
>
> I monitor it, and have done so for more than a decade. To make the
> monitoring convenient, however, I have chosen to filter out posts from
> those who have proven themselves unworthy of my time. I'm not sure
> why you still appear on my screen, but that problem is easily solved.
>
> Will Sill
> GILLETTE'S PRINCIPLE: "If you want to make people angry, lie. If you
> want to make them absolutely livid with rage, tell the truth."
Will Sill the NG Larvae needs to update his killfile...please killfile
me then...please...please....after 11 or so years of me being on this NG I
should think you have gotten SOMETHING right... Jim
Jimi
<JanO...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176741154.0...@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
Wow Jan,....so Like in rec.guns I can talk about bringing up a new puppy?
In alt.camping I can bring up a bitch session I had with an employee of mine
at work? Cool! Jim
Jimi
"Janet Wilder" <kellie...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:46239c13$0$21408$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
WHAT?....This Will Sill Larvae of this NG dosn't even own an RV? What in
hell is he doing here? Jim
GBinNC
wrote:
> WHAT?....This Will Sill Larvae of this NG dosn't even own an RV? What in
>hell is he doing here? Jim
Where does it say someone has to own an RV to participate here?
In fairness to Will, although he has sold his most recent RV, he has
more experience, in more kinds of RVs, over more years, than most people
here.
Now, if he would only limit his posts to those topics and act like a
decent human being....
GB in NC
Lon VanOstran
>>
>>If you don't like what you found here, what keeps you here?
>>
>>Lon, who likes what I've found here.
>
>
> Lon....what "keeps me here" is finding after sifting through the shit OT
> postings the very odd Jewel of a post that I may find usefull when I RV
> Camp... Jim
>
>
If you like what you find here, why bitch about it?
Learn how to filter.
Lon
-Gar
non-RV talk your spouting. What's it take to
get you talking about RV's?
Guns.. New puppys.. employee bitches at
work, Google that shit.. don't bring it up
here..
One thing we *don't* talk about here is
*WORK*.. you can get off that shit right
now... :) -Gar
Janet Wilder
I believe the term is "pontificating"
Al Balmer
wrote:
> Wow Jan,....so Like in rec.guns I can talk about bringing up a new puppy?
>In alt.camping I can bring up a bitch session I had with an employee of mine
>at work? Cool! Jim
If those subjects are acceptable *in those groups*, of course you can.
I don't know what connection that has with *this* group, though.
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
R.J.(Bob) Evans
wrote:
>
> WHAT?....This Will Sill Larvae of this NG dosn't even own an RV? What in
>hell is he doing here? Jim
>
using them which he is prepared to share. Sharing knowledge about RVs
being the raison d'etre for this group. Although you might never know
it from the nonsense that some of the most voluble members of the
group subject us to.
--
R.J.(Bob) Evans
(return address needs alteration to work)
altar nospam
>I see where "R.J.(Bob) Evans" <bob d0t evans at sasktel d0t net>
>contributed concerning another attempt at Will-bashing:
>
>>He has a wealth of knowledge about RVs gleaned over a lifetime of
>>using them which he is prepared to share. Sharing knowledge about RVs
>>being the raison d'etre for this group. Although you might never know
>>it from the nonsense that some of the most voluble members of the
>>group subject us to.
>
>Thanx for the kind words. Here is another tidbit:
>
>A close friend started out on a weekend trip, he with his class C, his
>friend in a mid-'90's class A driving on the original tires. The A
>suffered a tire failure on the inside (of course) dual, passenger
>side. Pulled off the road. While they were considering what to do
>next, the inside dual on the driver's side blew out. This not only
>startled them considerably, but destroyed the wheel well, smashed the
>grey water valve, ruptured a pipe inside, and damaged a drawer slide.
>
>I don't recall ever hearing about a tire exploding while parked, but
>the root cause is really easy to understand: the tires were in excess
>of ten years old, and the owner had never given any thought to
>inspecting them for anything but tread wear. The other tires were
>badly checked but also had plenty of tread.
>
>From time to time some ignorant twit blows in here bragging about
>still having the original tires on a vehicle that qualifies for
>antique license plates, and ridiculing the truth that most rv tires
>SHOULD be replaced rather than to be allowed to age and blow out in
>service.
>
>IMO, if you can afford an RV, you can afford to replace the tires at
>around 5 years. If you drive it frequently, you'll get more life,
>but they don't last forever even though they might look good.
>
>Will
And yet, visitors come into this group all the time, don't like what
they hear about tires here, and get all pissy. Why do they show up in
the first place.
I've got a good friend with a MH. He bought it used 6 years ago, and
has never checked the DOT codes. He was annoyed when I mentioned it.
Go figure.
Tom
Lon VanOstran
> And yet, visitors come into this group all the time, don't like what
> they hear about tires here, and get all pissy. Why do they show up in
> the first place.
>
> I've got a good friend with a MH. He bought it used 6 years ago, and
> has never checked the DOT codes. He was annoyed when I mentioned it.
>
> Go figure.
It's kinda funny how this stuff works. My brother thought I was full of
it when I started talking tires. I was visiting my nephew last summer
and he was showing me his new/used TT. The tire sidewalls were badly
cracked, so I gave him the tire lecture, including a description of what
happens when a tire blows. He nearly laughed at me, but bought the new
tires anyway.
Last week my brother called and thanked me for the tire talk. It seems
that his son, my nephew, was following a friend on their vacation. This
friend has a nearly identical trailer to Chadd's, and one of his tires
blew out. Chadd watched in horror as the trailer started shedding parts,
first plastic, then woods, and plumbing, and wiring, etc........
They both believe me now.
Lon
Frank Howell
Ignorance is bliss.
--
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Lots of people get all hissy when you mention something that could be
dangerous. I remember a guy at Ajo who had enough cash to buy a new
Jeep but not enough to pay for a decent towbar. He had cobbled up some
rods and regular strength eyebolts through the front bumper. Towed it
all the way from Quebec to Ajo. He had managed to screw up his
electrical system too because he hated to have the headlights on in the
daytime.
LZ
Lon VanOstran
>
> The OP has no need to "argue his point." The point is clear, precise
> and backed by a plethora of facts supported by simple 3rd grade
> mathematics. For those who are a tad slow, I'll present it in outline
> form.
>
> 1--The name of the group is rec.outdoors.rv-travel.
>
> 2--That title would indicate that the group exists for the discussion
> of recreational vehicles and recreation vehicle travel.
>
> 3--Utilizing simple 3rd grade mathematics and counting the posts that
> deal with the aforementioned subject matter, one can clearly see that
> the OP has an extremely valid point backed by logic, intelligence and
> fact.
>
> The problem he is encountering with presenting this state of imbalance
> in the group is that many in the group subscribe to the somewhat
> ignorant premise "don't confuse me with facts, I already have my
> retarded mind made up." In other words, "I'm set in my ways no matter
> how stupid and ignotrant they appear to anyone with an IQ higher than
> that of a wilting plant."
There are a lot of people here who have been returning on a daily basis
for the past 10 years. We do that because we like what we find here. If
you don't like what you find here, I would suggest you go elsewhere.
Surely this can't be the only RV related resource on the Internet, and
surely you have better things to do than try to change people who don't
wish to change.
Lon
Lon VanOstran
>
> Dear Will Jr. oops, I mean Lon. Statements like the one you made
> indicate perhaps that you, Lon VanOstran, are "too stupid to live."
> What is with this hangup some of you have about the word "love" in
> reference to an inanimate object? It's a common expression to
> indicate satisfaction with a product but some (perhaps with intimacy
> issues at home) seem to focus a lot on the word and seem to be
> disturbed somewhat by its use in reference to a tow dolly. Is there a
> Freudian situation here? Hmmmm......
Use the words "like", "enjoy", "prefer", or any other word that fits.
Using a tow dolly is still the biggest pain-in-the-ass venture I've ever
seen associated with RVing. You couldn't pay me a large enough amount of
money to cause me to voluntarily subject my body to the bullshit of
dealing with a tow dolly.
Lon, who shouldn't attempt rational dialog with someone as stupid as Max
Greene.
Erdos2
> There are a lot of people here who have been returning on a daily basis
> for the past 10 years. We do that because we like what we find here. If
> you don't like what you find here, I would suggest you go elsewhere.
> Surely this can't be the only RV related resource on the Internet, and
> surely you have better things to do than try to change people who don't
> wish to change.
There are a lot of people who put up with all the crap because they
see some value in some of the posts. There are a lot of people who
do as you say and just leave because of all the crap.
About 12 years ago this was setup as a place to go where RV related
discussions could occur freely, along with a charter to try to keep
it
from becoming what it has become. It was done properly with
discussions and a vote. Of course this was done at about the end of
a time when the internet usegroups were created and operated done
in a proper manner. That seemed to change about the time AOL
connected bunches of people to the usenet groups.
One solution to all this would be to setup a subgroup maybe named
rec.outdoors.rv-travel.campfire or rec.outdoors.rv-travel.bs for all
the
misc chat that accompanies the apparent need to socialize in a more
general way than just the topics this goup is supposed to discuss.
It's far easier to do than most think. And definately better than
the
solutions demanded by certain people here (love it or leave it,
filter
what you don't like, ignore those posts) And it would minimize these
postings that complain about how the group isn't what it is supposed
to be.
Another way to handle this would be to rewrite the charter to just be
a community of RV enthusiasts who want to talk about anything they
feel like then vote on it. Then you can point to this in the future
to get
rid of people who don't like it.
Jerry
Greg Luckett
> Forgive my apparent ignorance, but I thought this forum was about
> "Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel". IMHO we should stay on topic and air our
> opinions about politics, religion, etc. on forums where those topics
> are of interest. My personal interest is, in so far as this google
> group is concerned, is in camping, outdoor recreation, and RV-ing.
> That's why I subscribed to this forum.
>
> I share my opinions about other topics such as auto mechanics,
> politics, religion, cooking, beer making, etc. in other groups
> regarding those particular topics. I find very little info about
> "Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel" in this forum. I find more information in
> other forums where participants have a genuine interest in and
> discussion of topics that are relevant to recreation, outdoors
> adventure and RV travel. I wish the same could be said of this google
> group.
>
> Perhaps this google group should be renamed "Debate any subject, flame
> our participants for sharing their opinions, and sometimes discuss
> Rec.Outdoors.RV-Travel".
>
> Thanks for reading my post and have a great day!
>
> B.
I agree.
bruce
"Max Greene" <max-r-...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1177057992....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 15, 1:59 pm, Hunter <airstreamingy...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:34:36 -0400, Lon VanOstran
>>
>> <R...@stopspamwmconnect.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Anybody who claims to "love" a tow dolly either hasn't used one, or is
>> >too stupid to live.
>>
>> ...or is a spammer.
>>
>> Hunter
>
> ===========================
>
> Hunter, the conspiracy paranoid strikes again. Everything is not what
> it seems to Hunter because he lives in a distorted world of surreal
> ambiguity. <insert twilight zone theme here>
I'm sure that I won't be the only one to point this out to you, but, Hunter
is not a "he."
Bruce
Al Balmer
wrote:
>2--That title would indicate that the group exists for the discussion
>of recreational vehicles and recreation vehicle travel.
That perception is readily shown to be false - just go to Google
Groups and search for posts by "Max Greene." Are you trying to set a
record for the greatest number of off-topic, malicious posts per day?
--
Al Balmer
Sun City, AZ
Janet Wilder
> it
> from becoming what it has become. It was done properly with
> discussions and a vote. Of course this was done at about the end of
> a time when the internet usegroups were created and operated done
> in a proper manner. That seemed to change about the time AOL
> connected bunches of people to the usenet groups.
>
I've been here since 1995 and I can tell you with much certainty that
the AOL users were not the ones who made the changes. The majority of
the flame-warriors and OT posters are/were not AOL users.
Your supposition was baseless and prejudicial and I believe you either
owe AOL users an apology or proof of your statement.
--
Janet Wilder
Bad spelling. Bad punctuation
Good Friends. Good Life
Al Balmer
wrote:
>On Apr 20, 9:07 am, Al Balmer <albal...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Are you trying to set a record for the greatest number of off-topic,
>malicious posts per day?
>
>Al Balmer
>Sun City, AZ
>
>============================
>
>Whoa, I detect a little hypocrisy here! All this yapping about how
>"off-topic" and "flaming" posts seem to be accepted and part of the
>norm here, but only for the "selected, elitist few?"
Wrong. It was *your* hypocrisy I was pointing out. You didn't see me
complaining about off-topic postings, just pointing out that you seem
to be making most of them, recently, all the while complaining about
others.
>
I'm still hoping to see something from you that actually has some
content.
>If I learned anything "malicious," it was from the overwhelming potful
>of malicious "old timer" members of this group.
>
>Sorta like "the pot calling the kettle black" huh Al. Go back inside,
>you're out in the Phoenix sun too much.
ain'tthesameoldme@sbcglobal.netnot Max
"Max Greene" wrote
What kind of gear are you using? Seems to be working; you're getting lots
of bites.
Max (Wish I had a trolling motor)
Lon VanOstran
> Yet another long, rambling, unsubstantiated, meaningless, empty,
> boring post from JEO, the King of Usenet Pontification who still
> struggles with the concept that no one respects his banality, inanity
> or downright stupidity and is often seen in his little dark corner of
> the world weeping unabashedly for acceptance.
Not a record, since I once filtered an idiot after his first post, but
close. Max Greene is gone.
<plonk>
Lon
altar nospam
wrote:
>On Apr 15, 4:22 pm, altar nospam <a...@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>Another newbie telling us how to run the group.
>
> Tom
>
>==============================
>
>No, Tom, not telling you "how to run the group," just simply relating
>facts regarding the operation of the group and the idiots who can't
>seem to stay on topic in reference to the name of the group. Take
>your "him vs. us" retarded mentality back to the cave Tom. The others
>are waiting there for the drool and silly laffathon circle jerk.
>
Geez, I make a rule just a few weeks ago that no one is so worthless
that they need to be in my filters, and you go and prove me wrong.
Tom
altar nospam
wrote:
>On Apr 15, 4:27 pm, altar nospam <a...@nospam.net> wrote:
>Might I suggest you find one. We're happy here.
>
>Tom
>
>===================================
>
>Yes, Tom, it has been often said that "ignorance is bliss" and I guess
>bliss is just a form of the happiness you describe.
>
Another dipshit who has decided he knows what *my* happiness is or
isn't.
Why do I bother feeding the trolls anyway. You are a real asshole.
Tom
-Gar
same asshole.. -Gar