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Robin Myers

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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We are hearing horror stories about licensing a travel trailer in
Washington state, our home. We are newbies and trying to decide on a
5th wheel v/s travel trailer...(we will get what we can afford) is so
confusing, we are ready to give up entirely. We follow the
arts/crafts show circuit and tired of spending those huge motel bills.
We camp and travel a lot, so thought a little trailer might be just
the ticket...but there is so much to learn, we are getting
discouraged. Now, we are told the licensing fees are so high in
Washington state, we might as well stick to paying the motel bills!
Would appreciate any help at all....
Thanks, Robin & R.P. Myers

R Lindberg / E Winnie

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Robin Myers wrote:

> We are hearing horror stories about licensing a travel trailer in

>...


> Would appreciate any help at all....

Not really true, my old 1976 trailer was $35/year, the new longer,
bigger, newer (91) is still under under $100/year. High end motor-homes
can be really bad (many thousands), but trailers really aren't that bad.
However you have to remember the fees on the tow-vehicle also.

It's too bad the I-695 has the ugly bait and switch in it (it would
lower all vehicle fees to $35, but it would also require a vote on every
new tax or fee increase, so say if the library wanted to raise the overdue
book charge, it would have to go to the voters, as would any muni
water/power/sewer/etc increase. The costs of so many elections, and the
voter appathy could be, well bad).


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artthiel

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Jul 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/27/99
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It depends what you consider high licensing fees. Saturday we took delivery
on a
new 2000 year model, Nomad 249LT 24 foot travel trailer and the licensing
fee
was $178.50. I have stayed in a lot of motels and hotels that $178.50 will
buy
you two nignts stay.

Ron Thiel
Bothell, Washington

Robin Myers <rob...@benchtree.com> wrote in message
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> We are hearing horror stories about licensing a travel trailer in

> Washington state, our home. We are newbies and trying to decide on a
> 5th wheel v/s travel trailer...(we will get what we can afford) is so
> confusing, we are ready to give up entirely. We follow the
> arts/crafts show circuit and tired of spending those huge motel bills.
> We camp and travel a lot, so thought a little trailer might be just
> the ticket...but there is so much to learn, we are getting
> discouraged. Now, we are told the licensing fees are so high in
> Washington state, we might as well stick to paying the motel bills!

> Would appreciate any help at all....

carl

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Jul 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/28/99
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If I'm not mistaken the license excise tax in Washington is 2.3% of the MSRP
for vehicles, including motor homes and either 1 or 1.1% for trailers.
There are also some misc charges, but the excise tax is the biggie. WA uses
the MSRP for the first two years of registration and 90% of the MSRP for the
third year. So if you are purchasing a $30,000 FW, your registration should
be somewheres between $320-$360 each of the first two years. The only good
thing is its tax deductable.

Carl
Kalama,WA

TBFisher

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Jul 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/31/99
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Anyone know what this is in Texas?
I'm considering a $100K Class A
purchase.

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George Lowry

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:18:59 -0500, "TBFisher" <tbfi...@home.com>
wrote:

>Anyone know what this is in Texas?
>I'm considering a $100K Class A
>purchase.


From what I hear, registration in TX varies by county. You need to
contact the county you plan to register in and see what they charge.
I was considering a move and found that the registration would be four
times what I pay in Calif... Surprise.....

Steve Wolf, W8IZ

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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George Lowry <ww...@jps.net> wrote in message
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> From what I hear, registration in TX varies by county. You need to
> contact the county you plan to register in and see what they charge.
> I was considering a move and found that the registration would be four
> times what I pay in Calif... Surprise.....

Really? Every year after that, too?

In Ohio we pay sales tax on the transfer of title ... ONCE. That varies by
county. After that it's about $100 a year total for plates. What are the
per-year costs in TX and how do they relate to CA?

Steve


Dick Miale

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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In Virginia, you can obtain a permanent registration tags for a travel
trailer for about $52. It's a one time f ee that is non transferable.
However, you still have to pay personal property taxes, which, depending on
the value of your vehicle, be substantial.

ATCTUL

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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In article <37a4...@grouper.exis.net>, dmi...@exis.net says...
You poor thing! I just paid $646 dollars to first time register a $13500
TT in Oklahoma. Its a nice state, but they have yet to see a tax or fee
they didn't like!

Walter M

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Aug 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/2/99
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We have a 98 Alpenlite 439.00 to license for the second year, we
chose to buy trip permits this year 13.00 for each three day trip, since
we only plan on a few trips this summer, this has worked out a lot
cheaper, will probably do the same for next year till we retire and
travel more in 2001


Roger Woods

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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Shhh... Yell that too loud and VA might up the ante!!! :)

It is going to be so good to leave VA next year, with TN tags, no
inspection fees, no personal property taxes, no city taxes, and $23.00
a year tag fee!


On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:14:32 -0500, scl...@cottagesoft.com (ATCTUL)
wrote:

>You poor thing! I just paid $646 dollars to first time register a $13500
>TT in Oklahoma. Its a nice state, but they have yet to see a tax or fee
>they didn't like!

Roger Woods, Norfolk, VA.
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Donald J. Dickson

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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In article <37a7a89d...@news2.pinn.net>, dor...@your.com (Roger
Woods) wrote:

> Shhh... Yell that too loud and VA might up the ante!!! :)
>
> It is going to be so good to leave VA next year, with TN tags, no
> inspection fees, no personal property taxes, no city taxes, and $23.00
> a year tag fee!
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 20:14:32 -0500, scl...@cottagesoft.com (ATCTUL)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >You poor thing! I just paid $646 dollars to first time register a $13500
> >TT in Oklahoma. Its a nice state, but they have yet to see a tax or fee
> >they didn't like!
>

Well in Ontario I think the initial and ONLY licence fee I paid for my
trailer was about $25. No annual renewal or any other taxes.

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Dfrenchy

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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>Well in Ontario I think the initial and ONLY licence fee I paid for my
>trailer was about $25. No annual renewal or any other taxes.
>

That's because they know you don't have anything left after you pay all the
other taxes.

Donald J. Dickson

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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In article <19990804095249...@ng-ft1.aol.com>,
dfre...@aol.com (Dfrenchy) wrote:

That was true.

Did you hear about the simplified Canadian tax return? It only has 3 lines.

1) How much did you make?______________(A)
2) How much did you spend?______________(B)
3) Subtract (B) from (A) _______________(C) Remit amount (C) to Revenue Canada.

Actually it's getting better. Most provinces and the feds are reducing
personal income tax levels. I hear that the total tax in California(income
tax(fed and state), sales tax, licences, and various other tax like
levies) are now just as high if not higher than Ontario and Alberta. The
Tax Freedom Day is still increasing in the US but has been decreasing in
Canada. Wait until the US politicians have the guts to face up to the
money that has to be repaid for the bonds that the Social Security Fund is
holding. Then maybe it will be Canadians making fun of the US tax rates.

MikeL40548

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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>Anyone know what this is in Texas?
>I'm considering a $100K Class A
>purchase.
>

We used to pay about $70 per year for a 28.5 foot fifth wheel trailer in Harris
County, Texas. I don't know if it varies by county or not, I would doubt it
frankly.
Mike

R Lindberg / E Winnie

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Donald J. Dickson wrote:

> Actually it's getting better. Most provinces and the feds are reducing
> personal income tax levels. I hear that the total tax in California(income
> tax(fed and state), sales tax, licences, and various other tax like
> levies) are now just as high if not higher than Ontario and Alberta. The
> Tax Freedom Day is still increasing in the US but has been decreasing in
> Canada.

Measurement by 'tax freedom day' may be the only fair way to compare,
since tax structures vary so much. But I think you are wrong about Calf,
they rate 18th (or 15th). While Wash rate 8th (or 6th) and Texas rates
41st (or 36th). See http://www.taxfoundation.org/prstatelocal99table.html

> Wait until the US politicians have the guts to face up to the
> money that has to be repaid for the bonds that the Social Security Fund is
> holding. Then maybe it will be Canadians making fun of the US tax rates.

Actually the US announced today that some bonds were being paid off
early (as a result of the current cash-flow situation). I recall, that in
terms of GNP Canada is in far more debt then the US. States are generally
not allowed to operate in the red, is the same true of the Provinces?

Donald J. Dickson

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Aug 4, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/4/99
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In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.99080...@kendaco.telebyte.com>,

R Lindberg / E Winnie <rlin...@kendaco.telebyte.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Donald J. Dickson wrote:
>
> > Actually it's getting better. Most provinces and the feds are reducing
> > personal income tax levels. I hear that the total tax in California(income
> > tax(fed and state), sales tax, licences, and various other tax like
> > levies) are now just as high if not higher than Ontario and Alberta. The
> > Tax Freedom Day is still increasing in the US but has been decreasing in
> > Canada.

> Measurement by 'tax freedom day' may be the only fair way to compare,
> since tax structures vary so much. But I think you are wrong about Calf,
> they rate 18th (or 15th). While Wash rate 8th (or 6th) and Texas rates
> 41st (or 36th). See http://www.taxfoundation.org/prstatelocal99table.html

The comparison that I saw, which was second hand, used California as the
example of high taxes however it could be that others are higher. The
main difference when you do the Tax Freedom Day for the US and Canada is
that you should either add the average cost of medical plan premiums to
the US tax load or delete it from the Canadian taxes since our universal
coverage medical plans here are mostly financed out of general tax
revenues or payroll taxes. For example in Ontario no individual pays a
health care premium for basic medical/surgical/hospital care. It all comes
out of a payroll tax assessed on employers. That cost may be reflected in
lower wage rates but there is no deduction on anyone's pay cheque for
health premiums unless they have a co-payment system for drugs, dental or
similar plans.


> I recall, that in
> terms of GNP Canada is in far more debt then the US.

I'm sure that we are still higher than you are but our % is dropping
because we have a true surplus. Your federal budget still has not totally
segregated the Social Security revenue from other revenue. The problem is
that the current US "surplus" does not take into account the unfunded
liability for future Social Security claims. The figures that I have seen
quoted say that none of the excess Social Security payments for the past
10 or 15 years should have gone into general revenue. There has been up to
$100B a year "borrowed" from Social Security to make the budget balance or
nearly balance.

States are generally
> not allowed to operate in the red, is the same true of the Provinces?
>

Provinces can run deficits but most are at or near balanced budgets now.
Of course they are still paying interest on outstanding bonds(Alberta may
be debt free or close to it).

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