Cooking while driving
Lynda Rhea Collier
driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
Erich Coiner
While driving you are on batteries AND the output from the alternator on
the engine.
You will need to purchase a device called and Inverter.
This takes 12 volts DC and converts it to 110 volts AC.
You must pay close attention to the wattage rating of the inverter and
check to make sure you are not using more current than the alternator
can provide.
If you want to run the crock pot for any length of time on just the
batteries you will need several.
Tell us the Wattage or current usage of the crockpot and someone here
can help you size the inverter and your batteries.
Erich
Marge & Stan
sink surrounded by towels/sponges etc while we are on the road - hot food at
every stop. Stan.
Lynda Rhea Collier
determines what size inverter you need when given the wattage?
Lynda Rhea Collier
And, the RV has a rear kitchen and the crock pot fits neatly into the sink.
Tom J wrote:
> In article <39383521...@compuserve.com>,
> Lynda Rhea Collier <10202...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> > Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
> > driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
> > adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
> >
> >
>
> The first, and more important question would be, How am I going to
> secure the crock pot so that I don't have a great big mess when I have
> to swerve, or jam on the brakes? Even worse would be hot food splashed
> on the driver.
>
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Vince Wirth
<10202...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>And, the RV has a rear kitchen and the crock pot fits neatly into the sink.
Lynda,
You must have a fifth wheel or Travel trailer RV because of the
statement of a rear kitchen. With that situation you have a problem
getting energy to the battery. Let me explain.
A 225 Watt load at 110 AC equates to about 20 Amps at 12 Volts. To get
that power from the vehicle alternator to the RV battery, you need a
BIG wire between them. The problem is that the normal configuration
that is used in the normal RV wiring is good for about only 10 Amps.
This means that you are taking from the battery the other 10 Amps that
the crock pot, and inverter, need. The average battery in the average
RV is good for about 100 Amp-hours or 10 Amps for 10 hours. To keep
from running the battery down, you will need to take steps to increase
the size wire and connector between them. It can be done but it is a
bit of work.
Another suggestion; A steel pot resting on the engine.
Vince Wirth
http://home.earthlink.net/~vincewirth
Sky Walker
I saw a TV show long times ago.
They mix raw food and spice together and wrap them with Aluminum Foil.
Then they place them on top of the engine or somewhere that is hot and safe.
After driving a while, you have a meal ready to serve.
On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:28:49 -0400, Lynda Rhea Collier
<10202...@compuserve.com> wrote:
=>Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
=>driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
=>adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
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Lynda Rhea Collier
you gave me. I certainly don't want to drain batteries jmust to have a roast
for supper!
Vince Wirth wrote:
Steph and Dud B.
few problems... :-)
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Peyerl Fritz
in towels and let the pressure do the work. At lunch the meal is done
without any more energy wasted and on evening it just might need a little
warming. We do pots roast, stews and soups this way. We think a pressure
cooker is a must in a motorhome.
Lynda Rhea Collier <10202...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
Vince Wirth
<10202...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>No, this is a Class C 24ft Tioga. I don't know how this affects the information
>you gave me. I certainly don't want to drain batteries jmust to have a roast
>for supper!
Lynda,
Usually with a class C or A, the wiring to the batteries is capable
of doing what you want.
Vince
George E. Cawthon
Peyerl Fritz wrote:
>
> We use a pressure cooker. get the meal going in the morning, wrap the cooker
> in towels and let the pressure do the work. At lunch the meal is done
> without any more energy wasted and on evening it just might need a little
> warming. We do pots roast, stews and soups this way. We think a pressure
> cooker is a must in a motorhome.
Hey, great idea. Never thought about doing it that way. Not only
simple but energy conservative too.
DsrtTravlr
>few problems... :-)
>--
>Dudley
>
I don't get it. Lucy and Ricky towed that Looooooooong trailer with a regular
car. They didn't have a Hensely, a Banks Pack, Bilsteins, or a GPS. They had
no sway, no oscillation, no problems of any type going up grades, in and out of
gas station curbs, nothing.
Why has the simple action of pulling a travel trailer degernerated so much
since Lucy and Ricky did it?
As I remember, they didn't even have to level the thing.
Steve
Illigitimi non carborundum.
George Lowry
Since Lucy & Ricky, we have the EPA and the Sierra Club and other
organizations that have managed to encumber our vehicles with all
kinds of miracle that are supposed to save us from our selves. Also,
in those days, we didn't have people that felt that they had to go 75
- 80 mph, to hell with everyone else. AND another thing is that there
was a LOT more courtesy then than there is today...
George
Steph and Dud B.
between the trailer and car (at the hitch). Seems like that would help with
sway? How did that setup work anyway? What happened when you crested a
hill? Anybody remember those?
--
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D. Reaves
> We use a pressure cooker. get the meal going in the morning, wrap the cooker
> in towels and let the pressure do the work. At lunch the meal is done
> without any more energy wasted and on evening it just might need a little
> warming. We do pots roast, stews and soups this way. We think a pressure
> cooker is a must in a motorhome.
...or a TT or 5er!
Recently bought a 4.0 liter/4.2 quart Mirro pressure cooker for $19.95 at K-Mart. Like it. The old 6 qt. one needs a new gasket, and this one is the ideal size for "older, downsized families." Hope I remember to bring it from the house to the RV on next trip. Gosh, we can't have duplicates of everything can we? ;-) I try! Born to shop?
Ben Hogland
what makes them cook without heat..Your saying that you just get the
pressure cooker to temperature and take it off the burner then by simply
sitting there pressurized it continues to cook? Sorry, I don't mean to
sound naive but I haven't had any exposure to pressure cookers. Maybe
someone can provide some web URL's to enlighten me. I like the idea of the
crock pot and as a matter of fact I want to do something like that for my
long vacation in July. I sure do like the idea of having a hot meal when I
get done driving all day and to my campsite. I'm doing a lot of driving on
this trip and I always hate to cook after a tiring day on the road. Some
days after a long road trip in the RV I just eat a few bowls of cereal then
go to bed. Of course, I'd rather have a hot meal.
Ben
"Peyerl Fritz" <fpe...@badmileage.com> wrote in message
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> We use a pressure cooker. get the meal going in the morning, wrap the
cooker
> in towels and let the pressure do the work. At lunch the meal is done
> without any more energy wasted and on evening it just might need a little
> warming. We do pots roast, stews and soups this way. We think a pressure
> cooker is a must in a motorhome.
D. Reaves
> I've never had a pressure cooker. I like the idea but don't quite understand
> what makes them cook without heat..Your saying that you just get the
> pressure cooker to temperature and take it off the burner then by simply
> sitting there pressurized it continues to cook?
Ben,
"Here's how pressure cooking works. When water (or any liquid) boils, it produces steam. A tightly-sealed pressure cooker traps this steam, which then builds pressure inside the cooker. Under pressure, cooking temperatures can be raised significantly higher than possible under normal conditions. The super-heated steam created by these higher temperatures cooks foods quickly, evenly, deliciously. It's that simple!"
Got the above from the URL below. I think you'll like the illustrations and info on this site -- including how to buy, use, etc.
http://www.appliances.com/prestoinfouse.html
--
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DsrtTravlr
>> I've never had a pressure cooker. I like the idea but don't quite =
>understand
>> what makes them cook without heat..Your saying that you just get the
>simply
>> sitting there pressurized it continues to cook?
Ben:
Imagine it is just like when Sweetie wants you to spend $$$ on that pretty, but
unnecessary, colorful whazzit she wants.
A little heat, a little pressure. Keep it up for about 8 hours................
Even tough old Ben Hogland starts to soften up by quitting time.
Steve ;-)
Illigitimi non carborundum.
duncan moyer
appears sound.
Manifold Destiny : The One, the Only, Guide to Cooking on Your Car
Engine!
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Sky Walker wrote:
>
> I saw a TV show long times ago.
> They mix raw food and spice together and wrap them with Aluminum Foil.
> Then they place them on top of the engine or somewhere that is hot and safe.
> After driving a while, you have a meal ready to serve.
>
> On Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:28:49 -0400, Lynda Rhea Collier
> <10202...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> =>Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
> =>driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
> =>adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
>
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> Imagine it is just like when Sweetie wants you to spend $$$ on that pretty, but
> unnecessary, colorful whazzit she wants.
>
> A little heat, a little pressure. Keep it up for about 8 hours................
>
> Even tough old Ben Hogland starts to soften up by quitting time.
>
> Steve ;-)
Damn, Steve, did you *have* to give away the secret?
--
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George E. Cawthon
Ben Hogland wrote:
>
> I've never had a pressure cooker. I like the idea but don't quite understand
> what makes them cook without heat..Your saying that you just get the
> pressure cooker to temperature and take it off the burner then by simply
> sitting there pressurized it continues to cook? Sorry, I don't mean to
> sound naive but I haven't had any exposure to pressure cookers. Maybe
> someone can provide some web URL's to enlighten me. I like the idea of the
> crock pot and as a matter of fact I want to do something like that for my
> long vacation in July. I sure do like the idea of having a hot meal when I
> get done driving all day and to my campsite. I'm doing a lot of driving on
> this trip and I always hate to cook after a tiring day on the road. Some
> days after a long road trip in the RV I just eat a few bowls of cereal then
> go to bed. Of course, I'd rather have a hot meal.
>
> Ben
Ben you sound a little skeptical, and you are right, they don't cook
without heat. Don't have a URL but if you search for Presto you should
find something. Here are the basic facts: Water boils at 212 degrees F
at sea level. Increase the pressure by 15 pounds and water boils at 250
degrees F. (That's why you have a pressure cap on your radiator (to
increase the boiling temperature.) In a pressure cooker the little
weight on top doesn't let steam escape until the pressure (and
temperature) reaches a certain level. Our cooker is 15 pounds but
others maybe less. Moist heat cooks faster than dry. What was
suggested is that the pressure cooker is put on the stove until the
pressure is reached, then it is taken off and carefully insulated with
towels to retain the heat. Inside the cooker the pressure will be about
15 pounds and a temperature of 250 degrees when you take it off the
stove. Then the pressure and the temperature will drop. Two important
things to remember: First, the cooker is fairly heavy weight (older
aluminum cookers are really thick) so there is a lot of retained initial
heat and second, cooking time at 250 degrees is very short. Except for
heavy meats, most cooking times are less than 15 minutes, many are under
10 (potatoes for example), and some stuff is only 3 minutes.
If it takes 10-15 minutes for the pressure (read heat) to drop from 15
pounds to atmospheric pressure, lots of stuff will be cooked, another
1/2 hour (if wrapped up carefully) as the temperature drops from 212 to
say 130 degrees will provide a lot more cooking. The pot may be warm
but it won't be hot after 2-3 hours. However, it would only take 3-5
minutes on the stove to bring it to hot. Hope this helps.
John Roberts
Lynda Rhea Collier wrote:
> Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
> driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
> adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
Lynda,
Consider manifold cooking. Many crockpot recipes are adaptable or
directly applicable to manifold cooking. An excellent source of
information is "Manifold Destiny; The one, the only, guide to cooking on
your car engine" by Maynard and Scheller and available from Amazon.
Although much of the book is humorous, it has practical information for
all kinds of recipes. I have cooked everything from hotdogs, to beef eye
round roast, to lentil soup (I don't recommend soup, though). In
addition to Maynard & Scheller's technique of triple wrapping the food in
aluminum foil, I use oven bags and a remote digital thermometer. The
oven bags prevent liquid leaks through the foil wrap and the thermometer
because I'm lousy at guessing done-ness by eye. The preparation is
simple. Season the meat, place it in the oven bag, add marinade, onions
and carrots, or whatever. Then insert the thermometer probe and loosely
tie the bag. Side dishes such as parsley potatoes can be prepared in a
separate oven bag. Use pre-boiled potatoes (so plan ahead). Triple wrap
the oven bags in aluminum foil and secure them on the exhaust manifold in
such a manner that they won't interfere with the engine and drive. The
console portion of the thermometer sits on my dash and is programable to
alarm at the desired temperature. To avoid having to thread the probe
through the firewall every time I cook, I've installed an extension cord
that runs from the engine compartment to the dashboard. Polder makes a
great remote digital thermometer but Radio Shack sells a knock-off that's
just as good. The results are surprisingly good. The net effect is that
you are repeatedly trying to best your previous effort and the novelty of
it is very entertaining. Get the book, get the foil, get the oven bags,
get the digital thermometer, and try it.
John
Lynda Rhea Collier
boneless chuck roast (lean as Possible) in the bottom of the crock pot. Cover
it with a package of Lipton's Onion Soup mix, cover that with a can of
Campbell's Beefy Mushroom soup (can use regular cream on mushroom soup, but
beefy mushroom is so much better), put the lid on the crock pot and cook on low
for 9 hrs. The meat is fork tender and your gravy is already made for potatoes,
noodles, rice, etc. This is the best beef roast crock pot recipe that I have
found and I've tried several. It is so easy!
Ben Hogland wrote:
> I've never had a pressure cooker. I like the idea but don't quite understand
> what makes them cook without heat..Your saying that you just get the
> pressure cooker to temperature and take it off the burner then by simply
> sitting there pressurized it continues to cook? Sorry, I don't mean to
> sound naive but I haven't had any exposure to pressure cookers. Maybe
> someone can provide some web URL's to enlighten me. I like the idea of the
> crock pot and as a matter of fact I want to do something like that for my
> long vacation in July. I sure do like the idea of having a hot meal when I
> get done driving all day and to my campsite. I'm doing a lot of driving on
> this trip and I always hate to cook after a tiring day on the road. Some
> days after a long road trip in the RV I just eat a few bowls of cereal then
> go to bed. Of course, I'd rather have a hot meal.
>
> Ben
>
> "Peyerl Fritz" <fpe...@badmileage.com> wrote in message
> news:96004067...@news2.islandnet.com...
> > We use a pressure cooker. get the meal going in the morning, wrap the
> cooker
> > in towels and let the pressure do the work. At lunch the meal is done
> > without any more energy wasted and on evening it just might need a little
> > warming. We do pots roast, stews and soups this way. We think a pressure
> > cooker is a must in a motorhome.
> > Lynda Rhea Collier <10202...@compuserve.com> wrote in message
> > news:39383521...@compuserve.com...
Lynda Rhea Collier
boneless chuck roast in the crock pot, sprinkle a package of Lipton's onion soup
mix over it, cover that with a can of Campbell's beefy mushroom soup (can use
regular cream of mushroom soup, but beefy mushroom is so much better), put the
lid on the crock pot and cook on low for 9 hrs. The meat is fork tender and you
crock pot recipes for roast and this is the absolute best IMHO!
Hugh
I would like to hear from anyone from that era who actually used them.
Probably won't though. Anybody that old is most likely in a rest home.
<g>
Hugh
George Lowry
wrote:
>Good question. I remember them being advertised in the old Trailer Life.
>I would like to hear from anyone from that era who actually used them.
>Probably won't though. Anybody that old is most likely in a rest home.
><g>
>Hugh
Thanks Hugh,
While I did not use one, my neighbors did. I had one of the first
equalizing hitches (1955) . The purpose was the same, take the weight
off the back of the car while towing so that you weren't hunting
"coons". It was basically the same as you see today used by semis for
the second or third trailer. In those days, we were towing a "mobile
home" instead of a Camper.. Although you youngsters wouldn't be
satisfied with something like that even as a camper today. (32' long,
8' wide.) The empty weight of mine was 6600 lb. Last time we towed
it, from WA to TX, we figured it weighed over 12,000 lb. and we were
towing with a 55 Pontiac convertible. Which proves you can move
almost anything with anything if you are stupid enough and stubborn
enough. We "fulltimed" in that for 4 1/2 years until I was
transferred to Thule, Greenland when we moved to more conventional
living quarters.
George
Hugh
Loaded all the material for a 10' x 10' room. We popped the roof to get
a bedroom when the family was growing. Don't even want to guess how much
weight we hauled, all on the roof of the Pontiac. That's including
turnoff, rafters 2x6's, wall studding, plywood for roof and walls,
insulation in trunk and all the 3/8" sheetrock for the walls and
ceiling. This was in one trip. Those were great cars, my wife hated to
see it go.
Hugh
George Lowry wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:17:58 -0400, Hugh <hug...@dreamscape.net>
> wrote:
>
> >snipped
>>Anybody that old is most likely in a rest home.<g>
>>Hugh
>
> Thanks Hugh,
>
> While I did not use one, my neighbors did. I had one of the first
> equalizing hitches (1955) . The purpose was the same, take the weight
> off the back of the car while towing so that you weren't hunting
> "coons". It was basically the same as you see today used by semis for
> the second or third trailer. In those days, we were towing a "mobile
> home" instead of a Camper.. Although you youngsters wouldn't be
> satisfied with something like that even as a camper today. (32' long,
> 8' wide.) The empty weight of mine was 6600 lb. Last time we towed
> it, from WA to TX, we figured it weighed over 12,000 lb. and we were
> towing with a 55 Pontiac convertible. Which proves you can move
> almost anything with anything if you are stupid enough and stubborn
> enough. We "fulltimed" in that for 4 1/2 years until I was
> transferred to Thule, Greenland when we moved to more conventional
> living quarters.
>
> George
snipped
Pioneer Woman
lived on a 40' boat for 5 years and when cruising and we wanted fresh
homemade bread with our dinner (usually crabs or fish), I mixed up the
dough early in the morning, covered it with with damp towels and put
it in the bottom of the shower to rise. When we stopped somewhere
enroute or slowed down, I would "punch down" the dough once and off
we'd go again. At lunch or dinner time, I put the dough into the oven
and had fresh bread enough for 2 days. Yummy.
Suggestion: instead of using the crock pot while traveling, why not
slice that roast beef into slices and quickly grill and refrigerate
them.
JOE NEAR
Now this is gettin' downright interesting. There was some talk last week
about making a heat exchanger for the water heater. You could do the
same for a steam table or -
!!!an espresso machine!!!
Joe Near
Nick Simicich wrote:
>
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2000 19:15:58 -0700, duncan moyer <dmo...@jps.net>
> wrote:
>
> >A bit OT but I have this book, more for laughs than use but pricipal
> >appears sound.
> >Manifold Destiny : The One, the Only, Guide to Cooking on Your Car
> >Engine!
> >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0375751408/qid=960084773/sr=1-1/103-8468331-7178238
>
> I've done this by packing cooked chicken pieces in behind my
> motorcycle engine to heat it while I was riding. I'd reach down and
> grab it, and unwrap it and eat it without stopping. This was back in
> the late 60's. long before "Manifold Destiny" was written, and I
> recall reading about this back then.
>
> Some Class A's,, of course, can reach the engine through the inside
> hatch, which might make this more practical. :-)
>
> Hmmmmmmmmmm....how about a heat exchanger? Run the hot water through
> a water bath, put the stuff to be cooked in a pot inside the bath?
>
> All in all, I like the pressure cooker wrapped in towels better and
> better.
Richard Cochran
>>Lucy tried to cook in the trailer on "The Long, Long Trailer." She had a
>>few problems... :-)
>>--
>>Dudley
>>
> I don't get it. Lucy and Ricky towed that Looooooooong trailer with
> a regular car. They didn't have a Hensely, a Banks Pack, Bilsteins,
> or a GPS. They had no sway, no oscillation, no problems of any type
> going up grades, in and out of gas station curbs, nothing.
You need to get yourself to a video store and rent that movie again!
The whole point of the movie is that they have nothing but problems!
They start with an inadequate tow vehicle and have to trade up. Ricky
has severe trouble handling the trailer brakes in traffic when he
first takes the thing for a test drive. They can't back into their
relative's driveway, and end up seriously damaging their relatives'
house. Lucy's rock collection gets them into severe trouble on the
grades.
--Rich
Jazz
<10202...@compuserve.com> wrote:
> Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
> driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
> adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
Just get a cheap inverter and use the cigarette lighter. We do it all
the time.
Justin` Gredible
says...
> Is there a way I can use a regular slow cooker or crock pot while I am
> driving? I'm on 12V batteries while driving, right? Is there an
> adapter I can get for the crock pot or outlet? Thanks.
>
>
not)..somebody at one of the many rallies we attend had a whole class on
this and it was always full..I wish one of us had taken it now..just for
kicks! :=) Anyone know anything?
BTW..we're assuming you don't have a generator cuse if you do then the
answer is run it and turn on the roof air while you at it...takes a
cooling load off the engine and helps the generator at the same time.
Justin` Gredible
says...
> We do pots roast, stews and soups this way. We think a pressure
> cooker is a must in a motorhome.
>
>
microwave and ALWAYS taste better.