Have I really been suspended??????
a_non_the_mouse
not now be a member of.
Have I been suspended???
Thanks.
______________________________
Dear Mr XXXXX
Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
Committee at their most recent meeting.
After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
season will be refused.
The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
chosen to decline the offer.
With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
opportunity should be extended.
If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
Chairman on 078********
Regards
Mr Bloggs
Acting Secretary of the Association
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()())()()()
This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.
At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
could be grounds for suspension.
Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".
The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
membership.
The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.
The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.
The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.
The letter does not have a return address.
The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination and typical of the
secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.
Have I really been suspended??????
Thanks
Janitor of Lunacy
> I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
> not now be a member of.
>
> Have I been suspended???
>
> Thanks.
It looks like it. Whether they can lawfully do this, however, depends on
their membership conditions and whether their disciplinary procedures allow
them to do this. My guess is that they probably do, because there is ample
caselaw on the wording and structure of such expulsion processes, but it's
impossible to say without looking at the conditions. Even if they've got it
wrong, your chances of getting damages are limited, and you probably
wouldn't want to rejoin a club that had expelled you illegally. I'd find
another angling club, if I were you.
Iain
news:96a3d775-eccb-407e...@l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
Yes. To quote what you have put, "... the Committee has decided to suspend
your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010 season
will be refused."
Whether this has been fairly done and you have the right of appeal depends
on various other factors, such as the type of club and its constitution.
Iain
Joe Lee
Acording to the letter yes you have & it could hardly be clearer on that
point.
You have been invited to contact 'Mr Chairman'. Surely the thing to do now
is to contact him & raise the points you mentioned above re why you feel you
have been unfairly treated.
--
Joe Lee
Peter Parry
<b-wa...@live.com> wrote:
>I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
>not now be a member of.
>
>Have I been suspended???
Yes
>The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
>membership.
It does not need to.
>The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.
It does not need to.
>The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.
It does not need to.
>The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.
Yes it does - it tells you to phone the Chairman and supplies you with
his telephone number.
>The letter does not have a return address.
It does not need to.
>Have I really been suspended??????
Yes.
a_non_the_mouse
> On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:55:12 -0800 (PST), a_non_the_mouse
>
> >I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
> >not now be a member of.
>
> >Have I been suspended???
>
> Yes
>
> >The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
> >membership.
>
> It does not need to.
>
Thanks.
I accept that "the letter" does not have to tell me what authority
they have for taking such action, but I do not know if they actually
DO have the authority to suspend a member.
Perhaps they do.
Perhaps they don't.
Not one member of the club that I have been in contact with today can
show me any evidence that such authority exists.
Perhaps Robert Clerk, the managing agent for the Crown Estate's salmon
fishing interests in Scotland, would like to know what kind of
autocrats have the lease on the river (until December 31st this
year.) This information may help him decide about the lease for the
next 5 years.
Wayne & Waynetta Slob
news:96a3d775-eccb-407e...@l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> not now be a member of.
>
> Have I been suspended???
>
> Thanks.
> ______________________________
>
> Dear Mr XXXXX
>
> Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
> several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
> Committee at their most recent meeting.
>
> After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
> your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
> season will be refused.
>
Quite franky I think anglers are a load of selfish arseholes who think they
own the river/canal. They can all fall in the water and drown for all I
care.
Now piss off and take your stupid argument elsewhere, you brain dead
dickhead.
Giles
> I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
> not now be a member of.
>
> Have I been suspended???
.Don't know yet. Let's take a look at it, shall we?
> Thanks.
You're quite welcome.
> ______________________________
>
> Dear Mr XXXXX
AH! Unless you name actually is XXXXX, I'd say your chances of being
reinstated look very good right from the outset!
> Your recent refusal to contact the acting secretary by phone regarding
> several emails and internet posts, was brought to the attention of the
> Committee at their most recent meeting.
O.k., on the face of it, refusing to contact the acting secretary
doesn't look good. Sort of suggests contempt.....or at least an
unexplained indifference. Still, neither of those feelings is ouright
illegal.....in most places. For now, let's continue and see where
this all leads.
> After viewing several examples the Committee has decided to suspend
> your membership until further notice, any application for the 2010
> season will be refused.
Here's something we can work with. The unnamed "Committee" (we can
definitely use their anonymity to our advantage.....more on that
later.....maybe) has evidently viewed "several examples" of what we
can only suppose to be their own correspondence, given the wording of
the previous sentence. Sure, one COULD hold to the position that they
were referencing alleged calls and/or emails initiated by your august
self, but any court in its collective right mind would throw that out
on the grounds of senseless ambiguity. One can hardly be held at
fault for replying with a hearty (and heartfelt) so what?.....or
not.....which would, or at least should, convey precisely the same
message.
> The Committee believe that you have been given ample opportunity to
> make direct contact in order to explain your behaviour, but you have
> chosen to decline the offer.
The "Committee" can scarcely be in a position to know whether the
alleged opportunities they claim to have given are, or were, "ample."
In point of fact, the lack of response rather suggests otherwise,
ainna? As to the allegation that "you have chosen to decline the
offer," this is pure speculation, unsustantiated by a single shred of
evidence. It is equally plausible, in the absence of anything
resembling evidence to the contrary, that you were prevented from
responding by forces utterly beyond your control. For instance, it
remains in doubt (as pointed out above) whether or not you ever
received any calls, emails, or other correspondence from the
mysterious "Committee."
> With this in mind the committee do not feel that any further
> opportunity should be extended.
Feelings do not enter into the matter......or shouldn't, anyway. The
courts have, for centuries, been quite clear on this point. What
matters is a cool-headed application of reason to the interpretation
of the law.
> If you have any questions regarding this letter, please contact Mr
> Chairman on 078********
"Mr Chairman"? This just plain strains credulity! How likely is it
that the chairman of the still unidentified "Committee" is actually
named Chairman? Not impossible, I admit, but I remain skeptical.
Meanwhile, I just dialed 078********. No one answered the phone. Not
surprising, some might say, given that the usage found thus far in
this sad saga suggests it is taking place somewhere to the east of the
pond where it is now sometime in the wee hours of Saturday morning,
but you'd think they'd at least have voicemail or something like that
by now.....right? I mean, civilization has at least made a
perfunctory visit or two to the hallowed isles on occasion over the
past couple of centuries.....or not?
> Regards
>
> Mr Bloggs
Bloggs.....Bloggs.....hm......aren't they related to the Bagginses
over by twiddly under the whatsit?
> Acting Secretary of the Association
Ah! An actor! Oh, we are going to have SUCH an easy time with this!
> ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()())()()()
Hm.....
Your computer seems to have been invaded by quagga mussels. Sorry,
not much I can do to help you with this problem. Hey, wait! I've got
a friend over at the Department of Natural Resources. I'll give him a
call and get back to you. O.k.?
> This letter merely informs me that a meeting (that I wasn't
> invited to) discussed my "refusal" to phone the Acting Secretary.
Actually, a close reading reveals that it does a whole lot
more.....and less.....than that. But then, that's exactly why you
have sought our assitance on this rather ticklish matter, isn't it?
> At no point was I instructed by ANYONE to call the Acting Secretary,
No, but what the hell, it might not have been an entirely bad idea
anyway.....right? Hell, everybody likes to get a call from old
friends once in a while. You know, just keep in touch, how ya doin',
that kind of thing. I mean, would it absofuckinlutely KILL somebody
to call his fuckin' brother on his fuckin' birthday and just say hi
how ya doin?! :(
> so I do not see how refusing to do what I wasn't instructed to do
> could be grounds for suspension.
Well, there could be a clause which states just that. Do you happen
to have a copy of the bylaws you could fax to us at our earliest
convenience?
> Additionally, at no time have I been asked to "explain my behaviour".
Uh huh, we know how much it can hurt to not be asked. O.k., go
ahead.....explain your behavior. Go on......we're listening.
> The letter does not tell me what authority they have to suspend my
> membership.
True, but that could simply be becuase they have the authority to not
tell you what authority they have to suspend your membership. These
things (as should be clear by now) can get pretty complicated. And
that's precisely why you came to us.....right? So, don't worry, we'll
get it all sorted out for you.
> The letter does not tell me anything about a refund of my fees.
Um.....you haven't told us anything about fees.
> The letter does not tell me who the members of this committee are.
Good point. However, since we don't know what committee it is, the
membership would appear to be moot.
> The letter does not tell me about any route to appeal the decision.
You may rest assured that this end of the matter may be left safely in
our hands.....should we come to an understanding that our involvement
is in our mutual best interest ($$$). In the meantime, don't fret
your pretty little head over it.....o.k.?
> The letter does not have a return address.
Doesn't matter. It probably wouldn't do us any more good than the
phone number above.
> The letter, quite frankly, is an abomination
Well, it's a sure enough curiosity, anyway. But you should probably
refrain from making strong statements (or any statements at all, for
that matter) until we have met with the scurrilous bastards and sorted
some of this tedious shit out. O.k.?
> and typical of the
> secrecy that is rotting the club from the top down.
The directionality (assuming any such exists) of the rot is not
germain. The point is to root it out regardless and get the
loo.....um......seek justice for all.
> Have I really been suspended??????
Well, when you look toward your feet, do you see ceiling or floor?
> Thanks
You're welcome.
giles
for The Company
Giles
> a_non_the_mouse wrote:
> > I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
> > not now be a member of.
>
> > Have I been suspended???
>
> > Thanks.
>
> It looks like it. Whether they can lawfully do this, however, depends on
> their membership conditions and whether their disciplinary procedures allow
> them to do this. My guess is that they probably do, because there is ample
> caselaw on the wording and structure of such expulsion processes, but it's
> impossible to say without looking at the conditions.
Beg pardon, sir, are you a barrister or a solicitor? Are you licensed
to dispense legal advice. Have a care, sirrah, you know not what deep
and treacherous waters you roil. :(
> Even if they've got it
> wrong, your chances of getting damages are limited,
Yeah, there's that.....but where there's sheep, there's fleece,
ainna? Go find your own ewe.
> and you probably
> wouldn't want to rejoin a club that had expelled you illegally.
Personally, I tend toward agreement with Mr. Marx on this point.
> I'd find another angling club, if I were you.
Hell, I'd find another angling club, newsgroup, home, history,
language, culture and educational system if I were any of you.....or
try to with the limited means that would be at my disposal.
g.
Giles
Well, that's just about the most scatterbrained, unhelpful, vicious,
speculative, unreasoned, self-serving, immoral, depraved, illegal,
unconstitutional, sinister, half-witted, pig-headed, untrue, ass-
backwards, anti-grammatical and generally WRONG advice I have ever
encountered here or anywhere else!
giles
call me.....trust me.
pete
Surely in the time it took you to type all this stuff in, you could have
called the person in the letter, spoken to them (acting all mystified:
"email - wot email? gosh it must have got lost in my SPAM filter. Now,
what was it you wanted to talk about") in your sweetest manner and sorted
the situation out. It's hardly something to get all hot 'n' heavy about on
a newsgroup.
DaveS
> Have I really been suspended??????
>
> Thanks
Yes.
Think of it more as an opportunity than a suspension. More as that
good feeling after a fine meal.
And please, take a packet.
If you have any questions whatsoever please feel free to consult the
packet.
It's all explained in the packet.
I will need to have your building pass now.
Yes, Now.
Please let Officer Detail help you clear your personal items from the
workstation and get you a cab. On us.
Think of this as a new beginning.
Like a new tommorrow, only today.
Good.
rdean3...@bellsouth.net
wrote:
>I received the following today from an angling club that I may or may
>not now be a member of.
>
>Have I been suspended???
>
Yes, under orders from MI5. I'd suggest that you cross-post to every
motherfucking newsgroup currently active about it all...you'll be a legend.
HTH,
Double-Naught Dickie
Shaken, Not Stirred
...well, OK, so not so much a "legend" as a "laughingstock," but hey, you'll be
almost as famous as Mike Connor...
John B
"a_non_the_mouse" <b-wa...@live.com> wrote in message
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Have gun, will travel.
Wire Asadi, via ROFF.
Steve B
"a_non_the_mouse" <b-wa...@live.com> wrote in message
news:96a3d775-eccb-407e...@l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
Why would you want to belong to a club that would have someone like you as a
member?
Steve
riverman
> "a_non_the_mouse" <b-war...@live.com> wrote in message
Yeah, but now that he's been suspended, its exactly his type of club!
--riverman
John B
"riverman" <myro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d1712381-489f-4fb6...@a5g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
--riverman
This causes a pain between my ears that I do not understand...........
john
Otto Bahn
--oTTo--
"a_non_the_mouse" <b-wa...@live.com> wrote in message
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Giles
> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
giles
how much do i win? :)
David DeLaney
>"Otto Bahn" <Ladybrr...@GroinToHell.com> wrote:
>> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
>Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
>something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
of the Fruitbat _behind_!
>giles
>how much do i win? :)
Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
--
\/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Otto Bahn
> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
<
<Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
<something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.
--oTTo--
Marie
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
Marie
Otto Bahn
> > Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
> <
> <Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
> <something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
>
> Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.
>
> --oTTo--
<
<I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
SHELLY!!!! You got some 'splaining to do.
--oTTo--
Shelly
"Otto Bahn" <Ladyb...@GroinToHell.com> wrote in message
news:hnr07t$5sp$1...@gargoyle.oit.duke.edu...
Who??? Me???
--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net/blog
Adam Funk
> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
Otto! Remember the first rule.
--
Leila: "I don't think he knows."
Agent Rogersz: "Increase the voltage."
Leila: "What if he's innocent?"
Agent Rogersz: "No one is innocent. Proceed" (Cox 1984)
Otto Bahn
>> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
> Otto! Remember the first rule.
First, do no ham.
--oTTo--
Frank Reid © 2008
> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>
> Marie
Best typo I've seen in years.
Frank Reid
Tom Littleton
"Frank Reid Š 2008" <flyt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
Tom
Marie
> "Frank Reid © 2008" <flytye...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:8a2b0890-3046-467b...@g28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>
> >> Marie
>
> > Best typo I've seen in years.
> > Frank Reid
>
> sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
> Tom
The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about
Or so I have been told
Marie
David DeLaney
>>> Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.
>>>
>>> --oTTo--
>> <
>> <I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>>
>
>Who??? Me???
I fixed ... someone's post for them. (The quoting is odd here. My balance is
off.(
Dave
Giles
Hm......
And you've just said something, too.....right?
g.
teacher was right; this ain't as hard as it looks.
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
I believe I've read all of Brautigan's published works. None of them
has a title that sounds much like "Fishing Clubs" as far as I can
recall.
g.
Giles
> I fixed ... someone's post for them. (The quoting is odd here. My balance is
> off.(
You may not be the first to have noticed that latter bit.
g.
Giles
You were told wrong, It's the pictures in MY mind that you need to
worry about.
g.
ask around.....go ahead, i dare ya.
Giles
> On 2010-03-16, Otto Bahn wrote:
>
> > Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
> Otto! Remember the first rule.
Actually, the first get mowed down. The REMFS rule.
> Leila: "I don't think he knows."
> Agent Rogersz: "Increase the voltage."
> Leila: "What if he's innocent?"
> Agent Rogersz: "No one is innocent. Proceed" (Cox 1984)
Well.
Gosh.
Insipid quotes really wow 'em in your neighborhood, huh?
g.
Giles
Then, you lose.....early in the first round
g.
brings back memories of the halcyon days when fresh meat used to crop
just about daily. :)
Dr. HotSalt
> On Mar 16, 11:37 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>
>
>
> > Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >"Otto Bahn" <Ladybrr...@GroinToHell.com> wrote:
> > >> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
> > >Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
> > >something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
>
> > Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
> > of the Fruitbat _behind_!
>
> > >giles
> > >how much do i win? :)
>
> > Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
> > --
> > \/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
> > It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
>
> Hm......
>
> And you've just said something, too.....right?
Money talks.
> g.
> teacher was right; this ain't as hard as it looks.
Bullshit walks.
Dr. HotSalt
burma shave
Otto Bahn
> >> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>
> >> Marie
>
> > Best typo I've seen in years.
> > Frank Reid
>
> sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
> Tom
<
<The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about
Uh-oh Spaghetti-oh!
< Or so I have been told
If the horse won't pull you got to carry the load.
--oTTo--
Giles
> On Mar 17, 9:01 pm, Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 16, 11:37 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>
> > > Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >"Otto Bahn" <Ladybrr...@GroinToHell.com> wrote:
> > > >> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
> > > >Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
> > > >something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
>
> > > Many trolls also have their own _loincloths_. I mean, we've left the Century
> > > of the Fruitbat _behind_!
>
> > > >giles
> > > >how much do i win? :)
>
> > > Dave "a year's supply of ... well, you do the math" DeLaney
> > > --
> > > \/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
> > > It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
>
> > Hm......
>
> > And you've just said something, too.....right?
>
> Money talks.
>
> > g.
> > teacher was right; this ain't as hard as it looks.
>
> Bullshit walks.
>
> Dr. HotSalt
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, this just keeps on getting more and more illuminating.
Is there more?
g.
Shelly
"Giles" <g_go...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I believe the discussion on Google Groups and Hide/Show quoted text is
over --> there. Down the hall and the last door on the right. No, your
*other* right.
Oh dear.
--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net/blog
Otto Bahn
> > Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>
> <
> <Ooh! Ooh! I got a shiny new nickel says you believe you just said
> <something. Right? I mean, I'm right.....right?
>
> Fishing Clubs sounds like the title of a Richard Brautigan novel.
>
> --oTTo--
<
<I believe I've read all of Brautigan's published works. None of them
<has a title that sounds much like "Fishing Clubs" as far as I can
<recall.
Troll Fishing In America
YHBT. YHL. HTH. HAND.
--oTTo--
Giles
> "Marie" <rmho...@mindspring.com> wrote
It's been a long while since we here in ROFF have been treated to such
a sustained volley of high caliber rapid fire wit. In which of the
groups these gems are being posted to might a boy expect to find you
savants practicing your craft on a regular basis?
g.
Otto Bahn
> > >> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>
> > >> Marie
>
> > > Best typo I've seen in years.
> > > Frank Reid
>
> > sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
> > Tom
>
> <
> <The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about
>
> Uh-oh Spaghetti-oh!
>
> < Or so I have been told
>
> If the horse won't pull you got to carry the load.
<
<It's been a long while since we here in ROFF have been treated to such
<a sustained volley of high caliber rapid fire wit. In which of the
<groups these gems are being posted to might a boy expect to find you
<savants practicing your craft on a regular basis?
$20, same as in town.
--oTTo--
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Impressive. Does such mastery require long study and practice, or is
it a gift?
g.
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
Breathtaking.
g.
Shelly
>Impressive. Does such mastery require long study and practice, or is
>it a gift?
So easy, even a five year old can do it. I know how to tie my own
shoes, too.
--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net/blog
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
Justifiable pride. That's what you've got that the rest of us so long
for.
g.
Mark Edwards
>Impressive. Does such mastery require long study and practice, or is
>it a gift?
Yes.
Mark Edwards
--
Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:6955d491-c6a9-4e5d...@33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
> >Impressive. Does such mastery require long study and practice, or is
> >it a gift?
>
> So easy, even a five year old can do it.
That's right.
> I know how to tie my own
> shoes, too.
Mirabile dictu!
g.
Giles
> No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>
> >Impressive. Does such mastery require long study and practice, or is
> >it a gift?
>
> Yes.
Ambiguous. Delicious.
g.
who, admittedly, never saw anything like THAT coming.
bar...@bookpro.com
wrote:
Man, you've got some low standards.
BW
bar...@bookpro.com
wrote:
>"Giles" <g_go...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:6955d491-c6a9-4e5d...@33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Impressive. Does such mastery require long study and practice, or is
>>it a gift?
>
>So easy, even a five year old can do it. I know how to tie my own
>shoes, too.
I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
are way too short, not to mention too thick.
BW
Giles
> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com>
I don't have any standards at all. I'll talk to anybody.
g.
Mark Edwards
>I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
>are way too short, not to mention too thick.
I use rubber bands to hold the Velcro straps in place.
Shelly
news:ppt4q51jql1dcegoa...@4ax.com...
> I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
> are way too short, not to mention too thick.
Velcro is for four year olds.
--
Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net/blog
Otto Bahn
> >> > > >> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>
> >> > > >> Marie
>
> >> > > > Best typo I've seen in years.
> >> > > > Frank Reid
>
> >> > > sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
> >> > > Tom
>
> >> > <
> >> > <The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about
>
> >> > Uh-oh Spaghetti-oh!
>
> >> > < Or so I have been told
>
> >> > If the horse won't pull you got to carry the load.
>
> >> <
> >> <It's been a long while since we here in ROFF have been treated to such
> >> <a sustained volley of high caliber rapid fire wit. In which of the
> >> <groups these gems are being posted to might a boy expect to find you
> >> <savants practicing your craft on a regular basis?
>
> >> $20, same as in town.
>
> >> --oTTo---
>
> >Breathtaking.
>
> Man, you've got some low standards.
>
<I don't have any standards at all. I'll talk to anybody.
Even a porpoise? I once asked one why it was wearing a lab coat.
It said, "Scientific porpoise."
--oTTo--
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > >> > > >> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>
> > >> > > >> Marie
>
> > >> > > > Best typo I've seen in years.
> > >> > > > Frank Reid
>
> > >> > > sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
> > >> > > Tom
>
> > >> > <
> > >> > <The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about
>
> > >> > Uh-oh Spaghetti-oh!
>
> > >> > < Or so I have been told
>
> > >> > If the horse won't pull you got to carry the load.
>
> > >> <
> > >> <It's been a long while since we here in ROFF have been treated to such
> > >> <a sustained volley of high caliber rapid fire wit. In which of the
> > >> <groups these gems are being posted to might a boy expect to find you
> > >> <savants practicing your craft on a regular basis?
>
> > >> $20, same as in town.
>
> > >> --oTTo---
>
> > >Breathtaking.
>
> > Man, you've got some low standards.
>
> <I don't have any standards at all. I'll talk to anybody.
>
> Even a porpoise?
Even you.
> I once asked one why it was wearing a lab coat.
> It said, "Scientific porpoise."
So, do you think it was stating that it IS a "Scientific porpoise," or
do you suppose that perhaps, given an understandable lack of expertise
in English, it was suggesting that wearing a lab coat was related to
some scientific purpose?
g.
who knows that the distinction, while perhaps appearing subtle, could
very well be important.
bar...@bookpro.com
<Mark-E...@comcast.net> wrote:
>No cluons were harmed when bar...@bookpro.com wrote:
>>I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
>>are way too short, not to mention too thick.
>
>I use rubber bands to hold the Velcro straps in place.
So you tie the rubber bands, not the Velcro?
BW
Otto Bahn
> I once asked one why it was wearing a lab coat.
> It said, "Scientific porpoise."
<
<So, do you think it was stating that it IS a "Scientific porpoise," or
<do you suppose that perhaps, given an understandable lack of expertise
<in English, it was suggesting that wearing a lab coat was related to
<some scientific purpose?
I'm not sure. As soon as it spoke, I was attacked by a
navy seal.
--oTTo--
Otto Bahn
>>No cluons were harmed when bar...@bookpro.com wrote:
>>>I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
>>>are way too short, not to mention too thick.
>>
>>I use rubber bands to hold the Velcro straps in place.
>
> So you tie the rubber bands, not the Velcro?
Yeah, it's easy. Even a drunkard could tie one on.
--oTTo--
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
And all of this activity took place so recently that you haven't had
time to give the matter any thought? Or are you suggesting that
you've been somehow intellectually impaired by what one suspects most
people would describe as a rather frightful set of encounters?
g.
who, famously patient, has not yet given up all hope that this could,
somehow or other, yet get interesting.
Adam Funk
><bar...@bookpro.com> wrote in message
> news:ppt4q51jql1dcegoa...@4ax.com...
>
>> I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
>> are way too short, not to mention too thick.
>
> Velcro is for four year olds.
Grown-ups use duct tape.
--
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of
the American public. [Mencken]
Mark Edwards
No cluons were harmed when bar...@bookpro.com wrote:
>So you tie the rubber bands, not the Velcro?
Actually, I staple the rubber bands, and tie off the sutures.
Bill Marcum
On 2010-03-17, Otto Bahn <Ladyb...@GroinToHell.com> wrote:
> "Adam Funk" <a24...@ducksburg.com> wrote
>
>>> Trolls have their own *clubs*? Yegads!
>>
>
> First, do no ham.
>
The first law of trollbotics?
A troll shall not ham a human, nor through inaction allow ham to come to
a human.
--
THEY'RE IN UR BED, EATING UR DREAMZ
Giles
> Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>I use rubber bands to hold the Velcro straps in place.
>
>
> >So you tie the rubber bands, not the Velcro?
>
> Actually, I staple the rubber bands, and tie off the sutures.
>
> Mark Edwards
> --
> Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
Gosh.
It's just one laser-edged quip after another after another after
another after another........with you people!
Chaucer, Shakespeare, Swift, Johnson, Wilde, Whistler, Clemens,
Bierce, Mencken, Shaw, Parker, Mizner, Levant, Cerf, Brown......shit,
who needs 'em with you folks around?
g.
furiously jotting notes.
David DeLaney
>No cluons were harmed when bar...@bookpro.com wrote:
>>I envy you. I've been trying to tie my shoes, but the velcro strips
>>are way too short, not to mention too thick.
>
>I use rubber bands to hold the Velcro straps in place.
...what does Barbara say when you do that?
Dave
--
\/David DeLaney posting from d...@vic.com "It's not the pot that grows the flower
It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Mark Edwards
>>I use rubber bands to hold the Velcro straps in place.
No cluons were harmed when David DeLaney wrote:
>....what does Barbara say when you do that?
I don't know - like so much else, her shoes are booby trapped.
rdean3...@bellsouth.net
>On Mar 17, 5:12 pm, "Tom Littleton" <ThomasLittle...@msn.com> wrote:
>> "Frank Reid © 2008" <flytye...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:8a2b0890-3046-467b...@g28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >> I WPTA fisting club but thats bc I have been talking to shelly.
>>
>> >> Marie
>>
>> > Best typo I've seen in years.
Um...how do you know it's a typo...? Maybe this "shelly" and "Marie" are into
that sort of thing...not there's anything WRONG with that...
>> > Frank Reid
>>
>> sure, as long as there are no pictures.......
>> Tom
Well, now, hang on a sec - what does this gal look like...?
>The pictures in your MIND are the ones to worry about
>
>Or so I have been told
Lemme guess - by the voices in your head...?
>Marie
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know,
R
...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I suspect
the responses will be interesting...
Giles
> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I suspect
> the responses will be interesting...
They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
get old and die of ennui.
g.
ever hopeful, if not exactly optimistic.
Shelly
news:jsu4q557e6fpae0kl...@4ax.com:
> Um...how do you know it's a typo...? Maybe this "shelly" and
> "Marie" are into that sort of thing...not there's anything
> WRONG with that...
What happens in Facebook stays in Facebook. Just sayin'...
--
Shelly
http://cat-sidh.net/blog
Otto Bahn
> > I once asked one why it was wearing a lab coat.
> > It said, "Scientific porpoise."
>
> <
> <So, do you think it was stating that it IS a "Scientific porpoise," or
> <do you suppose that perhaps, given an understandable lack of expertise
> <in English, it was suggesting that wearing a lab coat was related to
> <some scientific purpose?
>
> I'm not sure. As soon as it spoke, I was attacked by a
> navy seal.
<
<And all of this activity took place so recently that you haven't had
<time to give the matter any thought? Or are you suggesting that
<you've been somehow intellectually impaired by what one suspects most
<people would describe as a rather frightful set of encounters?
Lately I've been talking without a porpoise.
--oTTo--
Otto Bahn
>>....what does Barbara say when you do that?
>
> I don't know - like so much else, her shoes are booby tapped.
IFYPFY.
--oTTo--
bar...@bookpro.com
Aw, c'mon, I know they're starting to droop as I age, but not that
low. Yet.
BW
Otto Bahn
>> Um...how do you know it's a typo...? Maybe this "shelly" and
>> "Marie" are into that sort of thing...not there's anything
>> WRONG with that...
>
> What happens in Facebook stays in Facebook. Just sayin'...
Michael Phelps and a whole generation beg to differ.
--oTTo--
Giles
> "Giles" <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote
So, you're saying that you are VERY young?
g.
David DeLaney
>rdean3REM...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I
suspect
>> the responses will be interesting...
>
>They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
>on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
>get old and die of ennui.
Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
dating section?" DeLaney
Dr. HotSalt
> Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >rdean3REM...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> >> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I
> suspect
> >> the responses will be interesting...
>
> >They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
> >on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
> >get old and die of ennui.
>
> Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
> on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
> Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
> us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
> dating section?" DeLaney
Gossamer and Kontext-Away sashay into the sunset, hand in paw...
Dr. HotSalt
David DeLaney
>d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>> Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >.....before we all get old and die of ennui.
>>
>> Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
>> on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
>
> Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
It was for Neville!
>>Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
>>us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
>>dating section?" DeLaney
>
> Gossamer and Kontext-Away sashay into the sunset, hand in paw...
Dave "feeling faint" DeLaney
PS: Also, he apparently has a Condition that has extended his ellipses by
nearly 70 percent! The horror.
Giles
> Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >rdean3REM...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> >> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I
> suspect
> >> the responses will be interesting...
>
> >They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
> >on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
> >get old and die of ennui.
>
> Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
> on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
"I ain't dead yet."
> Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
> us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
> dating section?" DeLaney
Attention and interest are not synonymous. Many a researcher has made
a career of watching to see whether something interesting might
happen.
Sometimes it does.
But we don't hold our breath.
g.
Giles
> On Mar 19, 9:25 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>
> > Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >rdean3REM...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > >> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I
> > suspect
> > >> the responses will be interesting...
>
> > >They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
> > >on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
> > >get old and die of ennui.
>
> > Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
> > on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
>
> Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
Nor is it as sad as being the root thereof.
> > Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
> > us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
> > dating section?" DeLaney
>
> Gossamer and Kontext-Away sashay into the sunset, hand in paw...
Well.
Gosh.
g.
Giles
> > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>
> It was for Neville!
Who's Neville?
> >>Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
> >>us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
> >>dating section?" DeLaney
>
> > Gossamer and Kontext-Away sashay into the sunset, hand in paw...
>
> Dave "feeling faint" DeLaney
>
> PS: Also, he apparently has a Condition that has extended his ellipses by
> nearly 70 percent! The horror.
Ellipses? You don't know what those are or what they signify, huh?
g.
hey, stevie!.....you think you can explain this to these boys? :)
David DeLaney
>On Mar 20, 6:28 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>> > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>>
>> It was for Neville!
>
>Who's Neville?
N is for Neville, who (all together now ...) DIED OF ENNUI.
>> PS: Also, he apparently has a Condition that has extended his ellipses by
>> nearly 70 percent! The horror.
>
>Ellipses? You don't know what those are or what they signify, huh?
I was indulging in a bit of hyperbole. You know, as a tangent off the
circular logic?
Dave "sineing off" DeLaney
Shelly
news:slrnhqamb...@gatekeeper.vic.com:
> Giles <g_go...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Mar 20, 6:28 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
>>wrote:
>>> > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>>>
>>> It was for Neville!
>>
>>Who's Neville?
>
> N is for Neville, who (all together now ...) DIED OF ENNUI.
Who also is not at all like James, who took lye by mistake. Just
Giles
> Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Mar 20, 6:28 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
> >> > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>
> >> It was for Neville!
>
> >Who's Neville?
>
> N is for Neville, who (all together now ...) DIED OF ENNUI.
Who's Neville?
> >> PS: Also, he apparently has a Condition that has extended his ellipses by
> >> nearly 70 percent! The horror.
>
> >Ellipses? You don't know what those are or what they signify, huh?
>
> I was indulging in a bit of hyperbole.
Ah, someone explained it to you. Good. :)
> You know, as a tangent off the
> circular logic?
>
> Dave "sineing off" DeLaney
Buh bye.
g.
Giles
> d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote innews:slrnhqamb...@gatekeeper.vic.com:
>
> > Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>On Mar 20, 6:28 am, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney)
> >>wrote:
> >>> > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>
> >>> It was for Neville!
>
> >>Who's Neville?
>
> > N is for Neville, who (all together now ...) DIED OF ENNUI.
>
> Who also is not at all like James, who took lye by mistake. Just
> sayin'...
Who's James?
g.
Mark Edwards
>Who's Neville?
>Who's James?
One word: Gashlycrumb.
Dr. HotSalt
> On Mar 20, 2:30 am, "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 19, 9:25 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>
> > > Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >rdean3REM...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > >> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I
> > > suspect
> > > >> the responses will be interesting...
>
> > > >They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
> > > >on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
> > > >get old and die of ennui.
>
> > > Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
> > > on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
>
> > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>
> Nor is it as sad as being the root thereof.
That your attention cannot focus is no fault of the targets.
> > > Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
> > > us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
> > > dating section?" DeLaney
>
> > Gossamer and Kontext-Away sashay into the sunset, hand in paw...
>
> Well.
>
> Gosh.
Speechless? Don't get the references? Channeling Jack Benny?
Don't you meet the most innnn-teresting people here?
I think you're innnn-teresting .
Dr. HotSalt
Glenn Knickerbocker
> I think you're innnn-teresting .
Would you believe that's the *second* oldest Arte Johnson/Mike Godwin
trick in the book?
ŹR Around here, the fun is always filled with blanks.
http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/arkville.html --Theresa Willis
Giles
> No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>
> >Who's Neville?
> >Who's James?
>
> One word: Gashlycrumb.
>
> Mark Edwards
Never heard of it. What's it mean?
g.
Giles
> On Mar 20, 11:03 am, Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 2:30 am, "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 19, 9:25 pm, d...@gatekeeper.vic.com (David DeLaney) wrote:
>
> > > > Giles <g_goat...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > >rdean3REM...@bellsouth.net wrote:
> > > > >> ...and given the, er, variety of groups to which this is cross-posted, I
> > > > suspect
> > > > >> the responses will be interesting...
>
> > > > >They haven't been so far. But maybe the A-team is out on the road or
> > > > >on vacation or something, and they'll be back soon.....before we all
> > > > >get old and die of ennui.
>
> > > > Note: Giles has proved to be terminally bored. I picture him as languishing
> > > > on a chaise longue, and every so often slowly consuming a chocolate trifle.
>
> > > Sadly, ennui is not fatal.
>
> > Nor is it as sad as being the root thereof.
>
> That your attention cannot focus is no fault of the targets.
>
> > > > Dave "we are not engaging his interest. except he keeps telling us and telling
> > > > us that we're not engaging his interest. maybe he was trying for the video
> > > > dating section?" DeLaney
>
> > > Gossamer and Kontext-Away sashay into the sunset, hand in paw...
>
> > Well.
>
> > Gosh.
>
> Speechless?
Not that I've noticed. You can't hear me from where you're at? Try
turning the volume up to 11.
> Don't get the references?
Didn't see any footnotes.
> Channeling Jack Benny?
Who's he?
> Don't you meet the most innnn-teresting people here?
Met quite a few. I've spent much time with some of them.
> I think you're innnn-teresting .
You're a liar.....and an idiot.
> Dr. HotSalt
g.
JUST when y'all thought it was going to get boring! :)
Giles
> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:22:49 -0700 (PDT), Dr. HotSalt wrote:
> > I think you're innnn-teresting .
>
> Would you believe that's the *second* oldest Arte Johnson/Mike Godwin
> trick in the book?
Ooh! Here's one what's got Culture!
> ¬R Around here, the fun is always filled with blanks.http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/arkville.html --Theresa Willis
Around here the fun never stops.
g.
Mark Edwards
But it does slow down long enough so the flame throwers can hit their
targets.
Mark Edwards
No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>> >Who's Neville?
>> >Who's James?
Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwa...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> One word: Gashlycrumb.
No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>Never heard of it. What's it mean?
JFGI. HTH. HAND.
Giles
> No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>
> >> >Who's Neville?
> >> >Who's James?
> Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwa...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >> One word: Gashlycrumb.
>
> No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>
> >Never heard of it. What's it mean?
>
> JFGI. HTH. HAND.
Looks like random letters to me. What's it mean?
g.
Shelly
news:dbab640f-80a7-4e02...@j21g2000yqh.googlegroup
s.com:
--
Shelly
http://cat-sidh.net/blog
Paul
Let Me Grope The Fucking Youth?
Giles
??!!
Wow, y'all got some really disturbed folks over there. :(
g.
Dr. HotSalt
Virtual inline cites.
> > Channeling Jack Benny?
>
> Who's he?
39.
> > Don't you meet the most innnn-teresting people here?
>
> Met quite a few. I've spent much time with some of them.
Well then, you're soaking in it.
> > I think you're innnn-teresting .
>
> You're a liar.....and an idiot.
And?
> g.
> JUST when y'all thought it was going to get boring! :)
To a kitten, everything is a toy. To a kibologist, everything is
amusing.
Dr. HotSalt
Giles
> No cluons were harmed when Giles wrote:
>
> >Around here the fun never stops.
>
> But it does slow down long enough so the flame throwers can hit their
> targets.
Leaving one to wonder.....what IS the maximum tracking speed of a
flame thrower?
g.
who can type with two fingers if need be......but, being merely
mortal, has limitations.
Marie
It;s a reference to Brautigan's Trout Fisting in America.