Please explain the term " blueprinted reel "
Robert Durio
third party. Heck, if it isn't a Penn being blueprinted, its puting somebody's
after market frames or side plates on.
Why not just buy a reel that built right from the factory - Shimano!!
RD
MShirer93 wrote:
> Assuming you are referring to a Cal Sheets blueprinted Penn International.
> What this means is that the drag is "Blueprinted". If you specify the reel to
> be blueprinted for 80# test, the reel will have approxomately 20#'s of drag at
> the strike position, 30#'s at Full drag and still have a clean free spool. This
> process involves re-machining the drag surface as well as the drive-plate and
> setting up the bellville springs to accomplish this.
>
> On a Star drag reel, this blueprinting process is a matter of polishing
> interior surfaces to obtain maximum free spool and casting distance.
>
> Hope this helps you out!
>
> "No Angles, No Tangles!"
> Mike
>
> >Can someone please explain what the term " blueprinted reel " means?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
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Blueprinting is a term used in the automotive world it simple means
to build a motor or something else to a given set of dimensions and
documenting them.
BHilton665
>OR, you could just buy a Shimano that doesn't need to be brought up to specs
>by a third party.
You don't understand what 'blueprinting' means when done by someone like Sheets
... it's generally used to modify the drags so they can be used OUT of the
normal spec range. For example you can have a Penn 16-S drag modified so that
instead of being suited for 12 to 30 lb test it can handle drags sufficient for
80 lb test. Guys do this and then use them with 80 lb Spiderwire for standup
tuna fishing on long range boats, as one example.
Anyone wanting more information on blueprinting should visit Cal's web site at
http://www.cals2speed.com/ I've had four 50-TW reels converted to 2-speed by
him and they do excellent work.
>Why not just buy a reel that built right from the factory - Shimano!!
I own 9 Penns and 4 Shimanos and all were 'built right from the factory', IMHO.
RTolb43552
Erik Vaaler
>
> OR, you could just buy a Shimano that doesn't need to be brought up to specs by a
> after market frames or side plates on.
>
Shimano is a viable alternative to Penn if you are shopping for a Penn
50W/Shimano Tiagra. The Tiagra is a great reel. However, Shimano doesn't
make anything equivalent to a blueprinted Penn 12, 16, 20, 30, 30W, 50,
80, 80W, or 130. Parts availability is still an issue. The long range
boats, where most of these reels are being used, only carry Penn spare
parts. I have a bunch of Shimano reels, but I will stick with my
blueprinted Penns for long range fishing.
Erik from SF/Boston
Robert Durio
reel that would only cost half of the smaller reel with the extra work. Doesn't
make sense.
Like buying a $30,000 Camero, spending an extra $40,000 bring it up to the level of
a $50,000 corvette. Hell, just buy the Corvette from the get-go.
R. Durio
BHilton665 wrote:
> >From: Robert Durio <cal...@caltees.com>
>
> >OR, you could just buy a Shimano that doesn't need to be brought up to specs
> >by a third party.
>
> You don't understand what 'blueprinting' means when done by someone like Sheets
> ... it's generally used to modify the drags so they can be used OUT of the
> normal spec range. For example you can have a Penn 16-S drag modified so that
> instead of being suited for 12 to 30 lb test it can handle drags sufficient for
> 80 lb test. Guys do this and then use them with 80 lb Spiderwire for standup
> tuna fishing on long range boats, as one example.
>
> Anyone wanting more information on blueprinting should visit Cal's web site at
> http://www.cals2speed.com/ I've had four 50-TW reels converted to 2-speed by
> him and they do excellent work.
>
> >Why not just buy a reel that built right from the factory - Shimano!!
>
> I own 9 Penns and 4 Shimanos and all were 'built right from the factory', IMHO.
>
> >MShirer93 wrote:
> >
> >> Assuming you are referring to a Cal Sheets blueprinted Penn International.
> >> What this means is that the drag is "Blueprinted". If you specify the reel
> >to
> >> be blueprinted for 80# test, the reel will have approxomately 20#'s of drag
> >at
> >> the strike position, 30#'s at Full drag and still have a clean free spool.
> >This
> >> process involves re-machining the drag surface as well as the drive-plate
> >and
> >> setting up the bellville springs to accomplish this.
--
Erik Vaaler
>
> Right, spend $1000 buying and bringing up a marginal reel up to specs of a beefier
> reel that would only cost half of the smaller reel with the extra work. Doesn't
> make sense.
It makes perfect sense if you understand the application. These reels
are used for long range stand up fishing. Expect to carry the reel
around for 12 hours a day. If the bite gets hot after dinner, maybe 16
to 18 hours. Try that with a Tiagra. Then go to sleep, get up, and do it
again and again for another 10 days. Also try casting a 3 oz sardine or
mackerel with a Tiagra.
Erik Vaaler.
Robert Durio
RTolb43552 wrote:
> Yea and first big King and you wished you had a penn been their
--
MShirer93
blueprinted reel. All of you gave your reasoning for both the Tiagra vs. Penn
but you missed the point of the question. Erik Vaaler came closest to
explaining. To all the newsgroup here it is: A Cal Sheets blueprinted reel
means that the drag has been blueprinted. If you have Cal blueprint the reel
for 80# test, this means you have approx. 20#'s of drag at the strike position
and 30#'s at full with a smooth free spool. Cal re-machines the drag plate
(Smoooooth Drag replacement plate is used) as well as the friction or drive
plate. I think what Erik is alluding to is the trend on Southern Californis
long range boats is to use the smaller, blueprinted Penns filled with Spectra
line in place of their larger counterparts making them easier to carry around
on the boat during the hot bite.
Hope this helps
Bill
It really is quite simple, maybe the terms are throwing you off.
It simply means the drags have been changed to allow heavier test
line to be used with a smaller real. i.e. 40-50 pound on a 12LT and
60-80 pound on a 30T. Considerably higher than factory. The key is
to have the higher drag and still have free spool when disengaged.
Then you put 50 or 80 pound spectra under a mono shock top shot
of your choice.
Why would you want to do this ... actually it is simple also, so
you can use a smaller lighter outfit with spectra line and standup
and fight the fish.
It works very well with the Penn 12LT and 30T reels. Same thing
applies to the Accurate upgraded Penn 4/0 reels. If you look at
the reels closely you see they are actually changed from the
factory configuration. The Cals have a plate added to the left
side.
Once you set up a rod and reel this way you will see the obvious
advantage.
I have done a similar thing with my Shimano 400 reels by upgrading
the drags and using 20# spectra under a 75 yard 16# mono top shot.
Allows you to have about 350 yards of 16# line on a very small
casting reel. Now the tarpon can run and you get to fight them
instead of watching the tarpons spool you.
In Florida we buy them stock from the bass pro shop. Here the water
is shallow, but this just means that instead of sounding, the fish
run for a mile before stopping.
Bill
Erik Vaaler
>
> Amazing!.....None of you answered this poor guy's question. As to what is a
> blueprinted reel. All of you gave your reasoning for both the Tiagra vs. Penn
> but you missed the point of the question. Erik Vaaler came closest to
> explaining.
Thanks. And I wasn't even trying. I was trying to defend the sensibility
of the procedure.
>To all the newsgroup here it is: A Cal Sheets blueprinted reel
> means that the drag has been blueprinted. If you have Cal blueprint the reel
> for 80# test, this means you have approx. 20#'s of drag at the strike position
> and 30#'s at full with a smooth free spool. Cal re-machines the drag plate
> (Smoooooth Drag replacement plate is used) as well as the friction or drive
> plate.
In addition to the drag moodifications, Cal (and Eric Sheets) also check
many tolerances in the reel, install a sleeve between the spool bearings
(to improve casting), and install bearings with a very precise, small
quantity of special grease that also improves casting.
I believe that they no longer use the Super Smoothie drag material due
to it's sensitivity to water and oil.
>I think what Erik is alluding to is the trend on Southern Californis
> long range boats is to use the smaller, blueprinted Penns filled with Spectra
> line in place of their larger counterparts making them easier to carry around
> on the boat during the hot bite.
>
> Hope this helps
> "No Angles, No Tangles!"
> Mike
Yes.