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Padishar Creel

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Dec 28, 2004, 2:19:17 AM12/28/04
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Well here is my checklist for winter stream fly fishing. Some of the items
on this list are for comfort and not totally necessary. Any suggestions to
add or lose would be appreciated.

3X Leader
3X Tippet
4X Leader
4X Tippet
5X Leader
5X Tippet
6X Leader
6X Tippet
Aquaseal Neoprene Repair Kit
Area Stream Guide
Bandannas
Bath Towel
Batteries - AA
Bill Cap with Magnifying Lenses
Binoculars
Bobbin Threader
Bottled Water
Butane Cook Stove
Butane Lighter
Butane Lighter - Extra Long Neck
Camera
Cell Phone
Change of Underwear
Chest Pack or Vest
Compass
Cup to Drink Hot Tea
Door Mat to change into waders
Dry Flies
Duct Tape
Emergency Energy Bars
Emergency Strobe Light
Emergency Waterproof Matches & Case
Emergency Whistle
Execedrin
Extra Jeans
Extra Shirt
Extra Socks
First Aid Kit
Fishing License
Five Weight Temple Fork Rod
Flashlight
Floatant
Fly Line Cleaner
Fly Threader
Fly Tying Kit
Forceps
Gaiter Socks
Garmin Etrex GPS
Hand Towel
Heavy Coat
Hook Hone
Insect Net
Insect Repellent
Knit Cap
Knot Card
Knot Tool
Landing Net - Catch & Release
Leader Straightener
Leatherman
Long Underwear
Lunch
Magnifying Glass
Measuring Tape
Medications
Moccasins
Net Holder
Nippers
Notepad
Nut Driver 1/4"
Nymphs
Orvis 6WT Reel Floating Line
Orvis Instant Sink Tip System
Orvis Rocky Mountain Large Arbor Reel
Orvis Waders
Pen
Pocket Knife
Rain Gear
Sage 6wt Rod
Sinkant
Splenda Packets
Spool of 20lb+ mono line for making loops
Stainless Steel Cooking Kit
Stainless Steel Soap Bar
Stream Thermometer
Streamers
Strike Indicators
Sunglass Strap
Sunglasses
Sweat Pants
Tea bags
Thermos
Throat Pump
Tin Weight
Toilet Paper
Two-Way Hand Held Radios
Wader Belt
Wader Duffel Bag
Wader Patch Kit
Wader Suspenders
Wading Boots
Wading Staff
Wet Flies
Wet Ones
Whiskey Flask
Wool or Neoprene Gloves
Zip Lock Gallon Bags

Guyz-N-Flyz

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Dec 28, 2004, 5:29:52 AM12/28/04
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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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What's your sherpa's name? I may know him.

Mark

Padishar Creel

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Dec 28, 2004, 5:51:29 AM12/28/04
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Mark correctly assessed my situation by asking, What's your sherpa's name?
I
may know him.
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Now that is funny! I have this stuff in my den all laid out and you are so
right! Most will stay in my vehicle, but my gawd, what a bunch of stuff to
just go fishin'.

Next will be my minimalist approach. Stick, String, and Fly...

Chris

Mike Connor

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:35:05 AM12/28/04
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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Well here is my checklist for winter stream fly fishing. Some of the items
> on this list are for comfort and not totally necessary. Any suggestions to
> add or lose would be appreciated.
>

<Expeditionary force supplies SNIPped>

How many weeks will you be staying?

TL
MC


Thomas Schreiber

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Dec 28, 2004, 6:41:51 AM12/28/04
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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Well here is my checklist for winter stream fly fishing. Some of the items
> on this list are for comfort and not totally necessary. Any suggestions to
> add or lose would be appreciated.

Ever heard of "less is more"? :o)


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GaryM

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Dec 28, 2004, 8:03:39 AM12/28/04
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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in
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<SNAPPAGE>

Whilst it may seem hard to believe you might have forgotten something
in that list, you have in fact overlooked the most important thing for
winter fishing: PAM non-stick spray to keep the guides ice free.

PS I don't feel much like washing with the "Stainless Steel Soap".

Wayne Knight

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Dec 28, 2004, 9:06:22 AM12/28/04
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Padishar Creel wrote:

> Well here is my checklist for winter stream fly fishing. Some of the
items
> on this list are for comfort and not totally necessary. Any
suggestions to
> add or lose would be appreciated.
>

[snip]
> Aquaseal Neoprene Repair Kit

Yuck, breathables over some fleece pants works just as well, leave the
neoprene at home

> Butane Cook Stove
> Butane Lighter
> Butane Lighter - Extra Long Neck

Butane does not work as well in cold temps. I would suggest a good ole
Zippo and a white fuel/gas powered cook stove. And a portable wind
shield for it.

> [more snippage}

> Five Weight Temple Fork Rod

> Orvis Rocky Mountain Large Arbor Reel

> Sage 6wt Rod

I think you forgot something

> Two-Way Hand Held Radios

Why? are you going to talk to yourself?

> Whiskey Flask

A Temple Forks guy might would use whiskey but a Sage/Orvis guy would
only be seen with a whisky flask.

While your list seems quite long, much of what you mentioned should be
in the vest already, and a survival kit in the car is not a bad idea if
one lives or travels to an area that folks can and do get stuck for
hours or days. But I'm just curious, are you one of those guys who's
desk is always neat and are your leftovers dated and rotated for
freshness? ;)

Tim J.

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:01:01 AM12/28/04
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Wayne Knight wrote:
<snip>

> are you one of those guys who's
> desk is always neat and are your leftovers dated and rotated for
> freshness? ;)

I, on the other hand, am one of those who (that's for you, Mr. Claspy)
goes fishing and forgets his rods. My ridiculously messy desk will bear
out my condition.
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Tim
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Wayne Knight

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:10:55 AM12/28/04
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Tim J. wrote:
>
> I, on the other hand, am one of those who (that's for you, Mr.
Claspy)
> goes fishing and forgets his rods. My ridiculously messy desk will
bear
> out my condition.

I have never forgotten to take a rod, I have on more than one instance,
forgotten the reel :(

William Claspy

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:37:22 AM12/28/04
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On 12/28/04 10:01 AM, in article 10t2t9g...@news.supernews.com, "Tim
J." <NOkpos...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:

> Wayne Knight wrote:
> <snip>
>> are you one of those guys who's

Wayne! "...whose desk..."

>> desk is always neat and are your leftovers dated and rotated for
>> freshness? ;)
>
> I, on the other hand, am one of those who (that's for you, Mr. Claspy)

Scolding works!

Now sit up straight!

> goes fishing and forgets his rods. My ridiculously messy desk will bear
> out my condition.

Can't admit to that, though since my profession is all about classification
and organization, I'll admit to being more relaxed when it comes to home and
camp. But I *do* own a fair share of Rubbermaid tubs which can conveniently
be tucked into the car before a trip. They just don't have labels on the
ends with SH687... or GV199.6... on 'em.

Yet.

:-)

Bill

B J Conner

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:39:22 AM12/28/04
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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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If the whiskey is for snake bites you take a snake or two.


Tim J.

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Dec 28, 2004, 10:59:25 AM12/28/04
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William Claspy wrote:
> On 12/28/04 10:01 AM, in article 10t2t9g...@news.supernews.com,
> "Tim J." <NOkpos...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Wayne Knight wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> are you one of those guys who's
>
> Wayne! "...whose desk..."
>
>>> desk is always neat and are your leftovers dated and rotated for
>>> freshness? ;)
>>
>> I, on the other hand, am one of those who (that's for you, Mr.
>> Claspy)
>
> Scolding works!
>
> Now sit up straight!

I gotta turn off this web cam. . .

Wayne Knight

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Dec 28, 2004, 11:00:11 AM12/28/04
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Grammar and Spell Checker William Claspy wrote:

>
> Wayne! "...whose desk..."
>

Shucks Bill, you knew to what I was refering, therefore it was "close
enuff"

Where I hail from, proper English is a foreign language.

Now if you can help me find a better argument for the Michigan
(mis)Managed Medicaid Program as to why they are required to pay for
the emergency treatment and stabilization of patients who present to
the ER and are required to be treated under EMTALA, regardless if they
notified their PCP first then we might be getting somewhere.

RUMRUN

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Dec 30, 2004, 5:11:48 PM12/30/04
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You got enough there for a weekend in Vegas

Tom Bogdan

Padishar Creel

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Dec 30, 2004, 10:46:04 PM12/30/04
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Wayne and others I appreciate your input. This list is for a weekend trip
to a stream 100+ miles from my home. I also should mention that my intent
is to have a warm shore lunch (cup of noodles, with hot tea that kind of
thing) instead of packing a sandwich. This also assumes I fall in the
stream and soak all my clothing so I always pack (if I remember) a complete
change of clothes and shoes. Yes, I have indeed fell in several times and
been plenty miserable cuz I had nothing to change into. Also I took the
breathable waders with insulated underwear advice and purchased new wading
shoes from Ezflyfish to accomodate the new waders.

Here is my updated list:

3X Leader 2
3X Tippet 1
4X Leader 2
4X Tippet 1
5X Leader 2
5X Tippet 1
6X Leader 2
6X Tippet 1
Area Stream Guide 1
Bandannas 2
Bath Towel 1
Batteries - AA 4
Bill Cap with Magnifying Lenses 1
Binoculars 1
Bobbin Threader 1
Bottled Water 6
Breatheable Waders Repair Kit 1
Butane Lighter - Extra Long Neck 1
Camera 1
Cell Phone 1
Change of Underwear 1
Chest Pack or Vest 1
Compass 1
Cup to Drink Hot Tea 2
Door Mat to change into waders 1
Dry Flies 1
Duct Tape 1
Emergency Energy Bars 2
Emergency Strobe Light 1
Emergency Waterproof Matches & Case 1
Emergency Whistle 1
Execedrin 1
Extra Jeans 1
Extra Shirt 1
Extra Socks 2
Extra Tank White Gas 2
First Aid Kit 1
Fishing License 1
Five Weight Temple Fork Rod 2
Flashlight 2
Floatant 1
Fly Line Cleaner 1
Fly Threader 1
Fly Tying Kit 1
Forceps 2
Gaiter Socks 1
Garmin Etrex GPS 1
Hand Towel 2
Heavy Coat 1
Hook Hone 1
Insect Net 1
Insect Repellent 1
Knit Cap 1
Knot Card 1
Knot Tool 1
Landing Net - Catch & Release 1
Leader Straightener 1
Leatherman 1
Long Underwear 1
Lunch 1
Magnifying Glass 1
Measuring Tape 1
Medications 1
Moccasins 1
Net Holder 1
Net Minder 1
Nippers 1
Notepad 1
Nut Driver 1/4" 1
Nymphs 1
Orvis 6WT Reel Floating Line 1
Orvis Instant Sink Tip System 1
Orvis Rocky Mountain Large Arbor Reel 1
Orvis Waders 1
Pam Cooking Spray 1
Pen 1
Pocket Knife 1
Purcell waterless soap 1
Rain Gear 1
Sage 6wt Rod 1
Sinkant 1
Splenda Packets 12
Spool of 20lb+ mono line for making loops 1
Stainless Steel Cooking Kit 1
Stainless Steel Soap Bar 1
Stream Thermometer 1
Streamers 1
Strike Indicators 1
Sunglass Strap 1
Sunglasses 1
Sweat Pants 1
Tea bags 6
Thermos 1
Throat Pump 1
Tin Weight 1
Toilet Paper 1
Two-Way Hand Held Radios 2
Wader Belt 1
Wader Duffel Bag 1
Wader Patch Kit 1
Wader Suspenders 1
Wading Boots 1
Wading Staff 1
Wet Flies 1
Wet Ones 1
Whiskey Flask 1
White Gas Cook Stove 1
Wool or Neoprene Gloves 1
Zip Lock Gallon Bags 4

Cyli

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Dec 31, 2004, 1:45:40 AM12/31/04
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:46:04 -0800, "Padishar Creel"
<cafa...@comcast.net> wrote:

(snipped)

> Extra Jeans 1


Jeans? Jeans in wet cold? Nein. Nyet. No. Don't. Nylon pants
from Dickie's (cheapest, pay more if you want a yuppie label) or poly
fleece. While it is not invariably true that 'cotton kills', it is
true that wet cotton is only good in hot weather when you _want_ to
chill down a bit. No cotton. No jeans. Forget about the existence
of cotton once the temps are below 70F. Wool is okay, but gets heavy
when wet. Poly fleece rules. Duofold and UnderArmor are good for
next to the skin.

Denim jeans have all the other problems of cotton in addition to being
thick enough that they're very heavy after absorbing moisture.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.

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Padishar Creel

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Dec 31, 2004, 3:26:55 AM12/31/04
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Cyli shared that I should not be wearing cotton jeans for the cold and from
Dickie's (nylon pants, cheapest, pay more if you want a yuppie label) or
poly fleece.
---------
I couldn't find on the Dickie's website the suggestion you made. Do you
have a source for these cold weather pants? You are right, wet jeans would
be miserable.

http://www.dickies.com/

Chris

bugcaster

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Dec 31, 2004, 1:33:22 PM12/31/04
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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Chris, drop by the Columbia Outlet Stores for great buys on all kinds of
fleece pants, plus so many other things you will NEED to own.

Randy


Padishar Creel

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Dec 31, 2004, 4:21:25 PM12/31/04
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"bugcaster" <bugc...@comcast.net.invalid> wrote in message
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Chris, drop by the Columbia Outlet Stores for great buys on all kinds of
fleece pants, plus so many other things you will NEED to own.
---------
Randy, just got back from REI a bit lighter in the wallet. I want to go
over to Columbia (in Sellwood right?) but my spouse is a bit burned out on
my purchasing adventures, at present. Maybe we can go together and avoid
the constant "looking at her watch" thing...<G>

Chris


Cyli

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Dec 31, 2004, 9:01:29 PM12/31/04
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Just their ordinary pants made of synthetic fibers. Appropriate
undies for the weather beneath them. Just as good as denim jeans for
wear and they'll dry out much quicker if wet or damp. After all,
jeans aren't specifically for cold weather (except the ones lined with
cotton flannel (a doubling of bad choice when damp or wet)).

Always look at the fiber content. I've got a couple of fleece tops
that I picked up carelessly that I can't take camping because I didn't
look at the fiber content properly and they're cotton fleece. Good
for around the house and in town, but I camp next to lakes or rivers
given any choice.

Wayne Knight

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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Wayne and others I appreciate your input. This list is for a weekend trip
> to a stream 100+ miles from my home. I also should mention that my intent
> is to have a warm shore lunch (cup of noodles, with hot tea that kind of
> thing) instead of packing a sandwich. This also assumes I fall in the
> stream and soak all my clothing so I always pack (if I remember) a
> complete
> change of clothes and shoes.

I think the sure thing of a white fuel stove at altitude and in the winter
beats the more intense heat from butane. You should see what i pack for a
fishing trip, i'm just too lazy to inventory it :(

I still think you're missing a reel. <g>

Wayne


Padishar Creel

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"Wayne Knight" <wrkn...@nocomcast.net> wrote in message
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> I think the sure thing of a white fuel stove at altitude and in the winter
> beats the more intense heat from butane. You should see what i pack for a
> fishing trip, i'm just too lazy to inventory it :(
>
> I still think you're missing a reel. <g>
----------
Wayne I purchased, with my Christmas monies, a whisperlite white gas
stove...Thanks for the input and I always want to take too much and never
not enough, if'n you know what I mean?

chris


Wolfgang

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"Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> ...I purchased, with my Christmas monies, a whisperlite white gas

> stove...Thanks for the input and I always want to take too much and never
> not enough, if'n you know what I mean?

If it isn't too late, take the "whisperlite" back and pay the extra few
bucks for the "dragonfly". MUCH better stove.

Wolfgang
who owns both, and has used both extensively.


William Claspy

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On 1/3/05 12:22 AM, in article 33s34kF...@individual.net, "Wolfgang"
<wolf...@mcw.edu> wrote:

>
> "Padishar Creel" <cafa...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:lsidnY1_MvA...@comcast.com...
>>
>> ...I purchased, with my Christmas monies, a whisperlite white gas
>> stove...Thanks for the input and I always want to take too much and never
>> not enough, if'n you know what I mean?
>
> If it isn't too late, take the "whisperlite" back and pay the extra few
> bucks for the "dragonfly". MUCH better stove.

Or dig around flea markets or used gear stores for an old Svea 123. :-)

> Wolfgang
> who owns both, and has used both extensively.

Bill
Who has used 123's for 25 years (yes, I started young) and has lived to tell
about it :-)

And who is (kind of) kidding, Pad- get the dragonfly. Good stove.

vincent p. norris

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Jan 3, 2005, 8:51:55 PM1/3/05
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>> If it isn't too late, take the "whisperlite" back and pay the extra few
>> bucks for the "dragonfly". MUCH better stove.
>
>Or dig around flea markets or used gear stores for an old Svea 123. :-)
>
>> Wolfgang
>> who owns both, and has used both extensively.
>
>Bill
>Who has used 123's for 25 years (yes, I started young) and has lived to tell
>about it :-)
>
>And who is (kind of) kidding, Pad- get the dragonfly. Good stove.

Since we're talking stoves, does anyone know what happened to the
German-made Enders stoves? I bought an Enders Baby at REI back in
1969. Great little stove. Has a built-in air pump to produce a
fierce flame even at altitude. But I haven't seen the Enders name in
stores or catalogs for many years.

Thanks. vince

Jim Davis

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