Walking, Wading, Wearing?
Larry L
been possible for me in the recent past.
Assuming I do, I have a question about current footwear. I absolutely
have to have good ankle support ( indeed I wear braces ) and some of the
places I hope to visit will require wading to fish well. So, what's out
there in the way of footwear that will double as a hiking boot and wet
wading boot? How would YOU avoid potential blister/etc problems of
walking back home in soggy socks?
When I was younger I just wore sneakers and suffered both on the hiking and
the wading, as they were poor for both ............. there must be a
smarter way
Ken Fortenberry
I like my Chota STL Plus for both hiking and wading. I've put
lots of miles on them hiking and they're fine for me. I wear
silk undersocks, SmartWool hiking socks, neoprene booties with
gravel guards and my size 10.5 foot in a size 11 Chota and I've
never had a blister hiking back to the car.
Best hiking/wading boots I've ever owned.
--
Ken Fortenberry
notbob
>
> Assuming I do, I have a question about current footwear. I absolutely
> have to have good ankle support ( indeed I wear braces ) and some of the
> places I hope to visit will require wading to fish well. So, what's out
> there in the way of footwear that will double as a hiking boot and wet
> wading boot? How would YOU avoid potential blister/etc problems of
> walking back home in soggy socks?
There was a comprehensive comparison on wading boots in one of the FF mags last
month. Pros and cons and prices. I forget which one. Maybe someone else can
recall.
nb
Halfordian Golfer
Hi Larry,
I think it was in Schweibert's "Remembrances of Rivers Past" (though
could be way wrong) where he recommended keeping a dry pair of socks
in the pack but, if you get the first pair wet, just wring them out
and fish on. They'll absorb the water from the boot so, when you put
on the dry pair at the end of the day for the hike out, they'll keep
you from getting blisters. I always thought that to be excellent
advice. Wet skin and hiking boots is a recipe for blisters.
Your pal,
TBone
Larry L
"Ken Fortenberry" <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote
>
> I like my Chota STL Plus for both hiking and wading. I've put
> lots of miles on them hiking and they're fine for me. I wear
> silk undersocks, SmartWool hiking socks, neoprene booties with
> gravel guards and my size 10.5 foot in a size 11 Chota and I've
> never had a blister hiking back to the car.
>
Maybe the liner socks is really all I need. I have a new pair of SIMMS
wading boots that support my foot well ... I'm just a bit too dense to make
the leap to walking a few miles with no water in sight, in felt soles, but
it seems it works just fine, if maybe shortens sole life a lot ? ...
Larry L
"Halfordian Golfer" <walk...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> I think it was in Schweibert's "Remembrances of Rivers Past" (though
> could be way wrong) where he recommended keeping a dry pair of socks
> in the pack but, if you get the first pair wet, just wring them out
> and fish on. They'll absorb the water from the boot so, when you put
> on the dry pair at the end of the day for the hike out, they'll keep
> you from getting blisters. I always thought that to be excellent
> advice. Wet skin and hiking boots is a recipe for blisters.
>
Ok, liner socks and a spare pair(s) .. both make sense .... I can do that.
Ken Fortenberry
>
> There was a comprehensive comparison on wading boots in one of the FF mags last
> month. Pros and cons and prices. I forget which one. Maybe someone else can
> recall.
Reviews and comparisons in the FF rags are nigh on useless. You cannot
expect an honest and impartial review of a product on a page opposite
a full-page ad for the same product. Which is why we ask each other
for impartial opinions here on roff.
But good luck with that anonymous prick thing you've got going. You're
really getting it down pat.
--
Ken Fortenberry
notbob
> Reviews and comparisons in the FF rags are nigh on useless. You cannot
> expect an honest and impartial review of a product on a page opposite
> a full-page ad for the same product. Which is why we ask each other
> for impartial opinions here on roff.
>
> But good luck with that anonymous prick thing you've got going. You're
> really getting it down pat.
The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>
>> Reviews and comparisons in the FF rags are nigh on useless. You cannot
>> expect an honest and impartial review of a product on a page opposite
>> a full-page ad for the same product. Which is why we ask each other
>> for impartial opinions here on roff.
>>
>> But good luck with that anonymous prick thing you've got going. You're
>> really getting it down pat.
>
> The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.
Keep up the good work.
--
Ken Fortenberry
not...@renric.qwest.com
Donut
I think the reply he was looking for was "By Jove, I think she's got
it!".
Don
Dave LaCourse
<kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
>I like my Chota STL Plus for both hiking and wading. I've put
>lots of miles on them hiking and they're fine for me. I wear
>silk undersocks, SmartWool hiking socks, neoprene booties with
>gravel guards and my size 10.5 foot in a size 11 Chota and I've
>never had a blister hiking back to the car.
>
>Best hiking/wading boots I've ever owned.
Yeah what he said. I am on my third set of Chota STLs. Great boot.
It is the only wading boot I have ever been able to put on when it is
dry. Worth the extra bucks.
Dave
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry writes:
>> Keep up the good work.
>
> eeny meeny miny moe
Am I supposed to guess ? Definitely not moe, moe was the smart
one. So that leaves eeny, meeny and miny, hmmm I guess I'll go
with miny. It rhymes with whiny and whiny is so you.
What do I win ?
And keep up the good work, we haven't had an anonymous prick
as fun as you around here in ages.
--
Ken Fortenberry
not...@renric.qwest.com
> advice. Wet skin and hiking boots is a recipe for blisters.
OTOH, whatta great way to get rid of all that dead skin and geezer callouses. Prolonged soaking makes for waterlogged callouses and the walking wears em all off. To think the ladies pay millions for the same treatment.
nb
fle...@highaltitudes.net
On 10-May-2008, Ken Fortenberry <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
> And keep up the good work, we haven't had an anonymous prick
> as fun as you around here in ages.
>
> --
> Ken Fortenberry
Not Bob is OK
Hev is cools as are others not mentioned before like Tim the Halfordian
Golfer and Frank Reid -again my apologies to others not mentioned
But
Re Not Bob
He is just certainly Not Bob!
He may be Richard , Frank, Allistair, Percy or Cyrus but he is not Bob!
He remains anonymous which is his option and OK by me
Fred
notbob
> He remains anonymous which is his option and OK by me
(tip o' the hat to ya', fred ;)
I went out and fished last night. I was gonna toss a #10 BH 20-incher and
do the nymph thing, but brought the wrong fly. I fished my olive
wooley-booger, instead. Nada. I didn't make it out today, the winds being
in the 15-20mph range, so got two new flies when I went to town. A glo-bug
(on advice from here) and #12 olive BH 20-incher. I hope to try both nymphs
and bug, tomorrow.
(casting is improving!)
nb
rw
Don't hike in felt soles, Larry. You'll wear them out in no time.
IMO, Aquastealth soles are best for hiking because of their durability,
although when wading I'd prefer felt. I use removable studs (sheet metal
screws -- cheap and easily replaceable).
--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
Dave LaCourse
>Tim the Halfordian
>Golfer
Do you know what a Halfordian Golfer is?
fle...@highaltitudes.net
On 10-May-2008, rw <rw56_to_...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Don't hike in felt soles, Larry. You'll wear them out in no time.
>
> IMO, Aquastealth soles are best for hiking because of their durability,
> although when wading I'd prefer felt. I use removable studs (sheet metal
> screws -- cheap and easily replaceable).
I was going to mention the Aqua Stealth boots
They are far better for hikling
thanks
Larry - check them out at llbean.com
Fred
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> And keep up the good work, we haven't had an anonymous prick
>> as fun as you around here in ages.
>
I think it's an anonymous prick, but it's a really, really good
anonymous prick so I guess I agree, it's OK.
--
Ken Fortenberry
notbob
>
> I think it's an anonymous prick, but it's a really, really good
> anonymous prick so I guess I agree, it's OK.
Boo!
fle...@highaltitudes.net
Thanks Ken.
That is a funny post
I keep going back to it and laughing.
Not bob will probably agree himself that he could be construed as an an
anonymous prick.
Fred
notbob
>> Not Bob is OK ...
>
> I think it's an anonymous prick, but it's a really, really good
> anonymous prick so I guess I agree, it's OK.
hmmmm.....
With frothy being a conptemptuous asshole and his relentless insistance I'm
an anonomous prick, and now this softening of the ways, I'm beginning to
wonder. Whatdya think? I think he wants me.
Sorry frothy, I don't cast that way.
nb
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> anonymous prick so I guess I agree, it's OK.
>
> hmmmm.....
>
Keep up the good work.
--
Ken Fortenberry
fle...@highaltitudes.net
On 11-May-2008, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think it's an anonymous prick, but it's a really, really good
> > anonymous prick so I guess I agree, it's OK.
>
> hmmmm.....
>
> With frothy being a conptemptuous asshole and his relentless insistance
> I'm
> an anonomous prick, and now this softening of the ways, I'm beginning to
> wonder. Whatdya think? I think he wants me.
>
> Sorry frothy, I don't cast that way.
>
> nb
Noone is asking the 2 of you to French Kiss and have babies together
Just stop the flaming
Who cares who started ?
Its only a fly fishing newsgroup
Fred
Ken Fortenberry
> notbob wrote:
>> With frothy ...
>
> Noone is asking the 2 of you to French Kiss and have babies together
> Just stop the flaming
> Who cares who started ?
> Its only a fly fishing newsgroup
When a thread disintegrates into flames just ignore it. I mean
you couldn't censor me or the anonymous prick even if you wanted
to.
As for me I'll keep on takin' out the trailer trash until I tire
of it. I mean fer chrissakes the silly prick hasn't caught a fish
on a fly in his life and he's in a fly fishing group whining about
fly fishermen. How does that make sense ?
--
Ken Fortenberry
notbob
> Just stop the flaming
I've posted a couple times trying to keep it strictly FF. Silly me.
nb
fle...@highaltitudes.net
On 11-May-2008, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
> I've posted a couple times trying to keep it strictly FF. Silly me.
>
> nb
Silkly you - No
There are some pretty knowledgeable and good people here who have and will
offer help
Then there are others..
Luckily- we do have a killfile
Fred
notbob
> Luckily- we do have a killfile
In the interest of the group, I will re-activate mine. ;)
nb
Conan The Librarian
> Hopefully I'll be able to hike into a few more waters this summer than has
> been possible for me in the recent past.
>
> Assuming I do, I have a question about current footwear. I absolutely
> have to have good ankle support ( indeed I wear braces ) and some of the
> places I hope to visit will require wading to fish well. So, what's out
> there in the way of footwear that will double as a hiking boot and wet
> wading boot? How would YOU avoid potential blister/etc problems of
> walking back home in soggy socks?
FWIW, I've had no problems wearing the cheap Chota Citico Creek
boots ($80 synthetic felt-soled boots with screw-on studs) with neoprene
booties and Smartwool socks. I've done upwards of 10 miles a day
hiking/fishing on some of the western NC/east TN streams I fished with
no blisters.
Chuck Vance (who should be on a Smokies stream at this very
moment, dammit)
Wolfgang
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>
> On 10-May-2008, Ken Fortenberry <kenfort...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> And keep up the good work, we haven't had an anonymous prick
>> as fun as you around here in ages.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Fortenberry
>
> Not Bob is OK
> Hev is cools as are others not mentioned before like Tim the Halfordian
> Golfer and Frank Reid -again my apologies to others not mentioned
> But
> Re Not Bob
> He is just certainly Not Bob!
> He may be Richard , Frank, Allistair, Percy or Cyrus but he is not Bob!
I think he is Wofgnagn.
> He remains anonymous which is his option and OK by me
O.k. then, that's Tom and Tom and not.
Wolfgang
Larry L
"Conan The Librarian" <cv...@txstate.edu> wrote
>
>
> Chuck Vance (who should be on a Smokies stream at this very moment,
> dammit)
Well, Dang! Hope it's nothing too long term getting in the way. I hate
it when the "real world" gets in the way of enjoying the Real World.
I just got off the phone to some friends in Montahoming ... baring the
unforeseen I'll head that direction in about a week. The ice "normally"
comes off Hebgen about right now, but it's still "pretty thick" this year
I'm told. Clearly this season is going to run a bit later than average
and nobody was willing to commit to fishable conditions for either the
Madison wade section opener next week or the YNP opener a week later.
This is all good news, of course, for anyone heading out in July as you
might get to find out how good June is <G>
Conan The Librarian
> "Conan The Librarian" <cv...@txstate.edu> wrote
>
>> Chuck Vance (who should be on a Smokies stream at this very moment,
>>dammit)
>
> Well, Dang! Hope it's nothing too long term getting in the way. I hate
> it when the "real world" gets in the way of enjoying the Real World.
I had a run-in with what was probably pneumonia/bronchitis combined
with my 30+ years of smoking. Doctor just dismissed it as COPD and
din't even treat me until I showed up again a week later barely able to
breathe. Took him two tries to get the right antibiotics, and in the
meantime I was using inhalers and even an oxygen machine just to move
around the house and sleep at night.
I'm OK now, but there was no way I was going convince SWMBO that I
was strong enough to traipse around the mountains when I couldn't walk
up the stairs in our house without gasping for breath.
> I just got off the phone to some friends in Montahoming ... baring the
> unforeseen I'll head that direction in about a week. The ice "normally"
> comes off Hebgen about right now, but it's still "pretty thick" this year
> I'm told. Clearly this season is going to run a bit later than average
> and nobody was willing to commit to fishable conditions for either the
> Madison wade section opener next week or the YNP opener a week later.
> This is all good news, of course, for anyone heading out in July as you
> might get to find out how good June is <G>
From what I've read, it's a good snowpack year as well, no?
Chuck Vance (who wouldn't mind spending a few days on the Madison
again some day)
Jeff
excellent news!!! thanks for some optimism...
july jeff
Larry L
"Jeff" <jl...@mindspring.com> wrote
>
> july jeff
Mid? I seem to remember that you come for the Yellowstone River opener?
Not sure if I'll be in the area then or not, I may run up to the Missouri
and I'm carrying my passport in case the call of the Bow gets too strong.
Then again the HFork may be too good to leave if the weather stays cool.
Critical Winter flows have been maintained reasonably well for a few years
now and the resulting improved population is getting big enough to be worth
the kind of effort any fish on the HFork seems to take. ( it's not that I'm
a big fish elitist .. I just hate getting beaten by dinks ;-)
Is that e-mail address up there valid? I tried to mail you last year and
got a bounced notice.
jeff miller
i'll be there mid july this year. driving up from salt lake city this
time, so i'm looking forward to some new scenery through portions of
utah and wyoming. i'll be camping somewhere. might stop for a time in
wyoming depending on others' schedules. henrys fork was tough the one
time i was there...i'd like to see it when the fish and weather were a
bit more cooperative.
though i'm always there at the time of the opener, it's pure serendipity
on my part. others usually establish the time of the trip. i've had such
good times and been spoiled with the early-mid july trips, especially
learning from and enjoying the company of the superb western fishermen
and my friend joe mcintosh (a superb character), i can't stay away. it's
intoxicating and addictive.
the yellowstone river opener really isn't my thing, though i admire the
tradition and the incredible cutts in that river. i enjoy the smaller,
less popular streams, and hiking back into areas that feel quiet and
comfortable, away from crowds and roads. big fish are fun...but pretty
places and small fish suit me just fine. i know you like to "cipher" the
fish and bugs...but i'm still hypnotized by the place. perhaps one day,
after i've spent enough time on those waters and lost the nystagmus,
i'll understand the fish and bugs better. but right now, i'm just
grateful to see and walk around those places, catching a fish
now-and-again.
oh...the mindspring.com and the suddenlink.net addresses are valid.
don't know what happened last year...sorry i missed your note though.
jeff
Zimbo
>
> i'll be there mid july this year. driving up from salt lake city this
> time, so i'm looking forward to some new scenery through portions of
> utah and wyoming.
>
Are you going to have any time to spend in Utah? I'll be there fishing
the entire month of July.
--Steve
Larry L
"jeff miller" <jmill...@suddenlink.net> wrote
i enjoy the smaller,
> less popular streams, and hiking back into areas that feel quiet and
> comfortable, away from crowds and roads. big fish are fun...but pretty
> places and small fish suit me just fine.
I wish I knew of places to suggest to you, but even if I did I don't mention
such places on the 'Net ... world famous places crawling with guides from
destination shops, sure, special little cricks ... no way.
I may drop you a note in July if I'm going to be around Last Chance ... I
do have a small crick idea or two, but doubt my ankle would let me get to
them.
jeff miller
i don't know... but, it would be terrific to see you again. odd that it
will take my traveling to utah to accomplish that though, no? i'm going
to meet friends in montana, but there was some talk of doing a bit of
fishing with another local in wyoming since it's on the way. where will
you be in relation to salt lake and the main routes north to the west
yellowstone or jackson/south yellowstone areas?
i'm leaving here tomorrow to camp and fish with mark in the nc mountains
around the grandfather watershed for several days...any chance you and
the greensboro geriatric could make it over for a day of fishing a
stream of y'all's choice? haven't seen him in a long while either.
jeff