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William Claspy

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Dec 17, 2002, 9:50:35 AM12/17/02
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On 12/17/02 8:42 AM, in article dRFL9.29307$lI4.7...@castor.casema.net,
"Hans van der Stroom" <str...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The company I work for is having a nice Christmasparty on December 19: we
> will fly to Prague, have our party there and will return the same night.
> Since I will have a few hours to spare I would like to visit a Tsjechian
> flyfishing shop and take a look around. Anybody out here who can give me the
> adress of such a shop in the centre of Prague?
> I know I'm late with my request, but didn't know earlier that I would have
> some time for my own.
>
> TIA
> Hans van der Stroom

Sounds like a nice company to work for!

When I was in Prague in July, I saw one angling shop in the town center. It
was closed at the time so I did not inspect their wares, but it looked
promising. It was just off the Staromestske nam., in the general direction
(north and east from the square) of the Jewish Quarter. If I had to venture
a guess, it's either on Kolkovna or Dlouha. I can't recall the name of the
store, but you should see it if you wander in that direction. There is an
excellent place for lunch on the corner of Kolkovna and Vezenska, if you
have time for a bite to eat and/or a pint.

Cheers!
Bill

James Barna

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Dec 17, 2002, 4:11:00 PM12/17/02
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Can you email me an employment application? I think I can learn Dutch. Is
it Dutch?

Memphis Jim

(By the way, over the weekend I was reading all about how nice the Dutch
were to John Adams when he was an American representative in Europe toward
the end of the American Revolutionary War. Thanks for the loans
Netherlands!).

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rb608

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Dec 17, 2002, 4:17:43 PM12/17/02
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"James Barna" <jimb...@weintraubstock.com> wrote in message
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> I think I can learn Dutch. Is
> it Dutch?

Yeah, good luck. <g> I tried that in advance of my trip to Amsterdam. I
listened to Dutch language tapes everyday for two weeks & got as far as
"Hello", "Good Morning", "Where is the nearest coffee shop", & "Can you
direct me to the red light district?" <g>

Joe F.


Stan Gula

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Dec 17, 2002, 4:35:29 PM12/17/02
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"James Barna" <jimb...@weintraubstock.com> wrote in message
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>
> (By the way, over the weekend I was reading all about how nice the Dutch
> were to John Adams when he was an American representative in Europe toward
> the end of the American Revolutionary War. Thanks for the loans
> Netherlands!).
>

Are you reading the David McCullogh<sp> biography?


Herman Nijland

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Dec 17, 2002, 4:51:38 PM12/17/02
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Did they try to teach you how to say 'Scheveningen' :-) ? Anyway,
looks like it was a good training after all. Those are basically what
most foreign tourists are after.<g>
Alhough 'good morning' is seldom used after a grassy night.
Herman

James Barna

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Dec 17, 2002, 5:02:41 PM12/17/02
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Yes. You hit that one right on the nose. I read seventy pages or so, then
I get tired of Abigail's letters to her sisters and I put it down. Then I
pick it up again a few days later.

I've been stuck on reading histories exclusively for about three years now.
It's a horrible vice, almost as bad as combining pornography with carp
fishing.

Memphis Jim


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Stan Gula

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Dec 17, 2002, 5:28:22 PM12/17/02
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> >
> > Are you reading the David McCullogh<sp> biography?
> >

"James Barna" <jimb...@weintraubstock.com> wrote


> Yes. You hit that one right on the nose. I read seventy pages or so,
then
> I get tired of Abigail's letters to her sisters and I put it down. Then I
> pick it up again a few days later.
> >

It's an excellent read. Not only a detailed history of the Revolutionary
period, but also a terrific documentation of day-to-day living at that time.


rw

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Dec 17, 2002, 5:58:22 PM12/17/02
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I never got past learning to order a Genever. Anyway, every Dutch person
I've ever met spoke perfect English, so what's the point? :-)

Herman Nijland

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Dec 17, 2002, 7:28:20 PM12/17/02
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We all think we speak perfect English :-). But you're right, most
people can express themselves reasonably well in English, especially
in the big cities. the four magic words (yes, no, hello, thank you)
are quite handy to know though.
Herman

James Barna

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Dec 17, 2002, 7:33:06 PM12/17/02
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>a terrific documentation of day-to-day living at that time.
>

I think that's true to a point. I believe that the Adams' were pretty
extraordinary people, and their later experiences were beyond what was
ordinary at the time.

One of the most interesting facets of the first American generation is that
they all seemed to know that they were destined to be enormously important
people, and they were certain that the United States would become a world
power. They were so darned self-assured.

Memphis Jim

David Snedeker

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Dec 18, 2002, 2:04:12 AM12/18/02
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Herman Nijland wrote in message ...

>Did they try to teach you how to say 'Scheveningen' :-) ?

I use some "Scheveningen Classic" oil paints, Old Holland brand, prepared
from pure pigment in cold pressed linseed oil. Good stuff from Dribergen,
Holland. "Scheveningen Blauw" is generally considered the most intense blue,
although, like most blues today, its essentially phalo (synthetic). What
does "Scheveningen" mean?

Dave


David Snedeker

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Dec 18, 2002, 2:08:23 AM12/18/02
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Ive read the Adams bio also. Its the best written biography I can remember.
I think it short changes Franklin, but thats a small point considering the
quality of McCullogh's work.

Dave

Frank Reid

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Dec 18, 2002, 6:39:38 AM12/18/02
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> I use some "Scheveningen Classic" oil paints, Old Holland brand, prepared
> from pure pigment in cold pressed linseed oil. Good stuff from Dribergen,
> Holland. "Scheveningen Blauw" is generally considered the most intense
blue,
> although, like most blues today, its essentially phalo (synthetic). What
> does "Scheveningen" mean?
>
> Dave

Scheveningen is a resort town along the beach near Den Haag (the Hague).
Derivation may come from the color of something (sky or water) along the
North Sea.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply


Herman Nijland

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Dec 18, 2002, 7:27:35 AM12/18/02
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Very good! Plus, you have to be Dutch in order to pronounce
'Scheveningen' the right way. It was used to detect German spies in the
first days of WW II, when Germany attacked the Netherlands. At least,
that is the story. The fight lasted only a couple of days after all.
Herman

rb608

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Dec 18, 2002, 9:02:34 AM12/18/02
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"Herman Nijland" <hip...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message

> We all think we speak perfect English :-). But you're right, most
> people can express themselves reasonably well in English, especially
> in the big cities. the four magic words (yes, no, hello, thank you)
> are quite handy to know though.

In all seriousness, all of the folks I met were very fluent in English and
were helpful when I wanted to expand my limited Dutch vocabulary (including
the bartender who clued me in on the correct pronunciation of Oranjeboom).
And, if the truth be told, I spent more time at the Rijksmuseum than at Oude
Kerk. :-)

Joe F.


Hans van der Stroom

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Dec 18, 2002, 9:23:36 AM12/18/02
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"William Claspy" <wNOp...@po.cwru.edu> schreef in bericht
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> Sounds like a nice company to work for!
>
> When I was in Prague in July, I saw one angling shop in the town center.
It
> was closed at the time so I did not inspect their wares, but it looked
> promising. It was just off the Staromestske nam., in the general
direction
> (north and east from the square) of the Jewish Quarter. If I had to
venture
> a guess, it's either on Kolkovna or Dlouha. I can't recall the name of
the
> store, but you should see it if you wander in that direction. There is an
> excellent place for lunch on the corner of Kolkovna and Vezenska, if you
> have time for a bite to eat and/or a pint.
>
> Cheers!
> Bill

It's a nice company indeed and I will try out your route for sure!
Thanks,
Hans


Hans van der Stroom

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Dec 18, 2002, 9:27:38 AM12/18/02
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"James Barna" <jimb...@weintraubstock.com> schreef in bericht
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> Can you email me an employment application? I think I can learn Dutch.
Is
> it Dutch?
>
> Memphis Jim

Sure ......... you don't even have to learn Dutch. Only problem would be
that the management would be talking too much about flyfishing instead of
working ;-)
Hans


Hans van der Stroom

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Dec 18, 2002, 9:33:15 AM12/18/02
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>
> In all seriousness, all of the folks I met were very fluent in English and
> were helpful when I wanted to expand my limited Dutch vocabulary
(including
> the bartender who clued me in on the correct pronunciation of Oranjeboom).
> And, if the truth be told, I spent more time at the Rijksmuseum than at
Oude
> Kerk. :-)
>
> Joe F.

When visiting that church you allmost passed my frontdoor without hopping
in. I could have showed you real Holland, including big trout!
Anyway: learning Dutch seems to be hard and not many people speak it, so
it's much more practical for us to pretend speaking good English ;-)
Hans


Herman Nijland

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Dec 18, 2002, 10:02:51 AM12/18/02
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How about a one-day miniclave at Oostvoorne, Hans?
Herman

Hans van der Stroom

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Dec 18, 2002, 10:13:21 AM12/18/02
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"Herman Nijland" <hip...@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
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> How about a one-day miniclave at Oostvoorne, Hans?
> Herman

My pleaure, but it will be next year before I got the time. Let's contact in
Januari!
Hans


Frank Reid

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Dec 18, 2002, 4:20:52 PM12/18/02
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> Very good! Plus, you have to be Dutch in order to pronounce
> 'Scheveningen' the right way. It was used to detect German spies in the
> first days of WW II, when Germany attacked the Netherlands. At least,
> that is the story. The fight lasted only a couple of days after all.
> Herman

The wiff went to school at Universiteit Nyenrode. I think she learned Dutch
just to have more countries to shop in.

David Snedeker

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Dec 18, 2002, 9:50:40 PM12/18/02
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Frank Reid wrote in message ...

>
>Scheveningen is a resort town along the beach near Den Haag (the Hague).
>Derivation may come from the color of something (sky or water) along the
>North Sea.
>
Thanx. Makes sense.
Dave


Herman Nijland

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Dec 19, 2002, 2:53:56 AM12/19/02
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Hans van der Stroom wrote:
>

Similar situation over here.. So Januari it is.
Herman

Herman Nijland

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Dec 19, 2002, 3:03:00 AM12/19/02
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To put Scheveningen even more in the artistic light - it has always been
a kind of resort for landscape (or better, seascape :-)) painters. You
might know Mesdag, who painted a huge panorama of the Scheveningen
seaside which is still on permanent display. I haven't visited it
myself, but I can imagine there's lots of blue in it <g>.
Some more info at: http://www.panorama-mesdag.nl/intro_en.php

Herman

David Snedeker

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Dec 19, 2002, 6:08:56 AM12/19/02
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Herman Nijland wrote in message <3E017D34...@yahoo.com>...
>
SNIP You >might know Mesdag, who painted a huge panorama of the Scheveningen

>seaside which is still on permanent display. I haven't visited it
>myself, but I can imagine there's lots of blue in it <g>.
>Some more info at: http://www.panorama-mesdag.nl/intro_en.php


Thanx Herman. I will have to visit someday. I know little of Mesdag - Im
more into the 17th century guys - Vermeer and my personal fave, Rembrandt.
Presently studying the early self portraits and his sponsorship by
Constantijn Huygens via Schama's book, "Rembrandt's Eyes."

Dave
"Next year in (the) Rijksmuseaum"


Herman Nijland

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Dec 19, 2002, 7:57:49 AM12/19/02
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David Snedeker wrote:
> Thanx Herman. I will have to visit someday. I know little of Mesdag - Im
> more into the 17th century guys - Vermeer and my personal fave, Rembrandt.
> Presently studying the early self portraits and his sponsorship by
> Constantijn Huygens via Schama's book, "Rembrandt's Eyes."
>
> Dave
> "Next year in (the) Rijksmuseaum"

There was a television programme a couple of years ago, something like
'Keating on painters'. Tom Keating, a well-known art-forger by the way,
demonstrated how to paint like the original masters. The programme on
Rembrandt was an eye-opener. If you're into the old masters, these
video's are a must-have.
Have a look at: http://makeashorterlink.com/?L132423D2

Herman

rb608

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Dec 19, 2002, 9:22:47 AM12/19/02
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"David Snedeker" <sned...@bainbridge.net> wrote in message
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> "Next year in (the) Rijksmuseaum"

Even to myself, hardly a scholar of the arts, the Rijksmuseum was an
awe-inspiring place. Being face to face with so many great works by those
masters was undoubtedly the high point of my trip (Sint Annenstraat
notwithstanding <g>) The hall revering the greater works (if a distinction
can be made), especially Rembrandt's "Night Watch", was better than anything
I ever expected when taking my elective Art History courses way back when.

Joe F.


Wayne Harrison

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Dec 19, 2002, 9:56:48 AM12/19/02
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"rb608" <fleis...@nospamworldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> you betcha. i will never forget standing in front of renoir's "picnic of
the boating party" in a d.c. museum for the first time. i was certain that
the bodies could leap from the canvas at their pleasure.
strangely, a similar feeling of awe was evoked by my first view of a
horse race, live, at keenwood, in kentucky. jesus, the sound, speed, and
sheer mass of those animals is amazing!

yfitons
wayno (and then, there was the first time becky oak...oh, well, you get the
idea.)


Herman Nijland

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Dec 19, 2002, 9:55:50 AM12/19/02
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Wayne Harrison wrote:
<snip>

>
> yfitons
> wayno (and then, there was the first time becky oak...oh, well, you get the
> idea.)

sound, speed and sheer mass?
:-) Herman

Tim J.

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Dec 19, 2002, 10:07:43 AM12/19/02
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<SPLORK!>
--
TL,
Tim


Wolfgang Siebeneich

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Dec 19, 2002, 8:58:19 PM12/19/02
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Herman Nijland wrote:
>
> .....you have to be Dutch in order to pronounce
> 'Scheveningen' the right way.....

Nah, it's pronounced "shibboleth".

Wolfgang
hell, EVERYBODY knows THAT! :)

Hans van der Stroom

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Dec 20, 2002, 6:44:51 AM12/20/02
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I found and visited the shop: their collection of catfood-tins was fairly
larger than the flyfishing department. Nice folks however!

Hans


William Claspy

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Dec 20, 2002, 10:05:33 AM12/20/02
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On 12/20/02 6:44 AM, in article ToDM9.34041$lI4.8...@castor.casema.net,

"Hans van der Stroom" <str...@wanadoo.nl> wrote:

> I found and visited the shop: their collection of catfood-tins was fairly
> larger than the flyfishing department. Nice folks however!

I presume this was the shop I mentioned. Sorry I didn't reconnoiter it
better for you! Still and all, not a bad neighborhood in which to go for a
walk. Hope you found the Kolkovna pub for a Budvar.

Merry Christmas!
Bill

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